Please Scroll Down to See Forums Below 
My brother in law has given me 58 total 50 mg alpha labs (U.K.) of stanozol. I am looking to do a cycle using this winstrol. I was wondering if I ran testalone from sarms 1 and arimidex for my ai as I feel like I have higher than normal estrogen levels for 8 weeks. I have enough winstrol for 50 mg Ed for 8 weeks. What should I dose the testalone per week? Would I be better off running a low dose of sust. Instead then tamoxifen and chlomid for pct?
I will be in calorie defecit and training 3 hours of cardio 3 nights per week if that makes a difference. I don't weight train at all I train Brazilian Jiu jitsu. Just looking to keep what I do have and drop my bmi as much as possible for a lower weight class in competition.
SARMS do not aromatize into estrogen (assuming you have legitimate SARMS) and winstrol is a DHT derivative that does not aromatize into estrogen so no AI is needed with your cycle. If you feel that you naturally have high estrogen levels, then I would run a suicide AI instead of arimidex. The problem with arimidex is you will experience an estrogen rebound when you discontinue usage. Pick up the product liquidex AI from n2bm.com. That's what I would use.
RAD140 (testolone) was designed to replace TRT therapy in older men. If you do not want to include a testosterone base in your cycle, using the SARM RAD140 is going to be your best bet. The recommended dosage of RAD140 is 20-30mg/day.
I would run your cycle like this -
Weeks 1 - 8
Winstrol 50mg/day
RAD140 20-30mg/day
Liquidex AI from n2bm.com - 1/2 the recommended dosage/day
A good natural liver aid supplement like N2guard - 1 serving/day
After the cycle it's important to run a mini PCT to restore natural testosterone production.
4 weeks of the following:
clomid at 25mg/day
nolvadex at 20mg/day
A good natural liver aid supplement like N2guard - 1 serving/day
A good natural testosterone booster like HCGenerate ES - 1 serving/day
RAD140 (testolone) was designed to replace TRT therapy in older men. If you do not want to include a testosterone base in your cycle, using the SARM RAD140 is going to be your best bet. The recommended dosage of RAD140 is 20-30mg/day.
I would run your cycle like this -
Weeks 1 - 8
Winstrol 50mg/day
RAD140 20-30mg/day
Liquidex AI from n2bm.com - 1/2 the recommended dosage/day
A good natural liver aid supplement like N2guard - 1 serving/day
After the cycle it's important to run a mini PCT to restore natural testosterone production.
4 weeks of the following:
clomid at 25mg/day
nolvadex at 20mg/day
A good natural liver aid supplement like N2guard - 1 serving/day
A good natural testosterone booster like HCGenerate ES - 1 serving/day
Thank you for the reply. What do you mean by suicide ai?
I also planned to run a pct even though none of my compounds aromatize just to try and help out with rebalancing my test est levels
Suicidal AI means when it binds to the aromatise enzyme that it disables it from receiving free test after it in bonds or initiates apoptosis in the enzyme. This means that estrogen itself is both not generated from aromatizing from test (all AIs do this) but also when the AI wears off the body will need to create new aromatise enzymes before it can start test to estrogen conversion again to balance levels.
You don't get the estrogen rebound of having your body saturated with test then all those dormant enzymes coming online to convert it to estrogen, which is what CAN happen with a normal non suicidal AI
You don't get the estrogen rebound of having your body saturated with test then all those dormant enzymes coming online to convert it to estrogen, which is what CAN happen with a normal non suicidal AI
LevButlerov
Veteran Mod
Head Moderator
Raptor Labs VIP
UGL OZ VIP
Senior Moderator
EVO V.I.P.
Domestic-Supply.com
I would follow @muskate's advice - he has given you some really nice directions.
Also, the Aromasin is a much better choice than arimidex because:
1. Aromasin is a suicide inhibitor, so there will be no estrogen rebound once you stop taking it. Meanwhile, this estrogen rebound is well possible with arimidex, since it is not a suicide AI.
2. Arimidex will stress your lipids by increasing the levels of LDL cholesterol (the bad one), whilst aromasin will increase the levels of HDL (the good cholesterol).
3. Aromasin will increase your IGF-1 production by up to 25%, which is very good for muscle growth and recovery, which is not the case with arimidex.
Also, the Aromasin is a much better choice than arimidex because:
1. Aromasin is a suicide inhibitor, so there will be no estrogen rebound once you stop taking it. Meanwhile, this estrogen rebound is well possible with arimidex, since it is not a suicide AI.
2. Arimidex will stress your lipids by increasing the levels of LDL cholesterol (the bad one), whilst aromasin will increase the levels of HDL (the good cholesterol).
3. Aromasin will increase your IGF-1 production by up to 25%, which is very good for muscle growth and recovery, which is not the case with arimidex.
I like the idea of using RAD instead of a low dose test. In your case I think it is actually better because you are more of an endurance athlete. Test can actually hinder endurance which is why RAD might just be the best option instead of sust. I also like the cycle Muskate laid out for you.
Is the hcgenerate neccassary ? Also since the stated cycle doesn't aromatize would I really need the liquifdex ai?
Is the hcgenerate necessary? That is your decision. I personally don't think cutting corners when it comes to your PCT makes much sense. A proper PCT is what ensures you keep all the gains you made from your cycle and your natural testosterone production fully recovers. In my opinion, the PCT is more important then the cycle itself.
The cycle you plan on running does not aromatize - correct but you said you suffer from naturally high estrogen levels so I would use the liquidex AI for that reason.
Similar threads
