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ibiza33

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So about 6 months ago I ran a cycle of 250 test-e and 250 deca/week. After about a week my dick went limp, but I still had decent libido, so about two weeks later I stopped the deca entirely. I spent hours and hours researching and no one seems to be able to agree on whether it is progesterone related, estrogen related, etc.

I purchased some caber, and decided to try again with the same starting dosages. This time while taking .25 Amiradex/day and .25mg caber EOD I was able to make it two weeks into the cycle with no issues. Then ALL OF THE SUDDEN I literally woke up Any and I cannot get it up.

I don't understand how it can come on this quick. I'm going to up my caber dosage and adex dosage, but I just want some input from any of you in regard to this. I'm not even taking a high dosage either.

A 2:1 test/deca ratio or proviron are not options since the reason I'm even taking deca in the first place is because I suffer from hair loss issues.

Any input is appreciated.
 
Stevesmi really enlightened me to the fact that you need to have a DHT in your cycle when you run deca. Now, you say that proviron is not an option but it is exactly what you need.
 
I really appreciate your input. Unfortunately, that is not really what I wanted to hear since proviron will only accelerate hair loss. That is the reason why I am even taking Deca in the first place. I swear to god, there is no winning with this bullshit.
 
If deca supresses test/DHT levels, then I would think it would be possible to just run more test to bring my levels back to where I can function without worrying about hair loss.

Does this seem logical?
 
Deca with DHT is nessery and I think proviron is not harsh for hairline just as winny

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Proviron ranks high up there as far as hair destroying compounds go and defeats the purpose of even taking Deca in the first place.

I will try first to raise my test dosage and thus DHT levels. Additionally, I’ll take creatine as it has been shown to increase DHT, and I’ll try citrulline since it might help with blood flow to the genitals.
 
ibiza33 said:
I really appreciate your input. Unfortunately, that is not really what I wanted to hear since proviron will only accelerate hair loss. That is the reason why I am even taking Deca in the first place. I swear to god, there is no winning with this bullshit.
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So stop the deca.
 
ibiza33 said:
Proviron ranks high up there as far as hair destroying compounds go and defeats the purpose of even taking Deca in the first place.

I will try first to raise my test dosage and thus DHT levels. Additionally, I’ll take creatine as it has been shown to increase DHT, and I’ll try citrulline since it might help with blood flow to the genitals.
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k creatine isn't going to be enough to counter act the dihydronandrolone increase and the binding to DHT from deca

my advice to you is use steroids conservatively if you want to keep your hair.. if you only care about your hair and not your dick then use deca solo..

raising test is going to shed your hair and it won't be enough either. only 5-10% of testosterone converts to DHT, that would mean you would have to run 5g of it
 
stevesmi said:
k creatine isn't going to be enough to counter act the dihydronandrolone increase and the binding to DHT from deca

my advice to you is use steroids conservatively if you want to keep your hair.. if you only care about your hair and not your dick then use deca solo..

raising test is going to shed your hair and it won't be enough either. only 5-10% of testosterone converts to DHT, that would mean you would have to run 5g of it
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How do you come up with 5g? We don't know exactly how much DHT I need to be back functioning properly again?

cbbram said:
Leave the Deca alone bro and run something else. Deca does the same thing to me and NPP is even worse. There are plenty of other compound out there to experiment with.
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There really aren't any other options as far as mass builders go that are safe on the hair.
 
They all run the risk of losing hair. If you’re that worried about it than do not use anything.


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As someone who has spent an exorbitant amount of time researching steroids and hair loss over the last few years, you don't need to come in here and generalize with blanket statements. Different compounds react differently to hair.
 
There is this misconception that deca dick is the result of prolactin, which is not true. The problem with it is that deca releases dehydronandrolone, which is less androgenic than DHT, and replaces it. This is the reason you get these problems. However, you can easily solve this issue by using 50 mgs per day of proviron, since it is basically pure DHT, and it will solve the problem.
 
Ratios mean nothing with deca it’s all the same just a matter of how fast your body converts to dhn . If your worried about hair loss then don’t even run gear


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ibiza33 said:
So about 6 months ago I ran a cycle of 250 test-e and 250 deca/week. After about a week my dick went limp, but I still had decent libido, so about two weeks later I stopped the deca entirely. I spent hours and hours researching and no one seems to be able to agree on whether it is progesterone related, estrogen related, etc.

I purchased some caber, and decided to try again with the same starting dosages. This time while taking .25 Amiradex/day and .25mg caber EOD I was able to make it two weeks into the cycle with no issues. Then ALL OF THE SUDDEN I literally woke up Any and I cannot get it up.

I don't understand how it can come on this quick. I'm going to up my caber dosage and adex dosage, but I just want some input from any of you in regard to this. I'm not even taking a high dosage either.

A 2:1 test/deca ratio or proviron are not options since the reason I'm even taking deca in the first place is because I suffer from hair loss issues.

Any input is appreciated.
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Ivery only used deca once. But it was several weeks before I noticed any effects on anything. This was several years ago. The mass and strength gain was phenomenal. But these effects were not noticed until 4-5 weeks into it. Athe about week 10-11, that's when I noticed some limp issues and libido. Seems odd that you noticed this a week into it on the first try and then 2 weeks in on the second try. Possible your mind is getting to you (paranoia). Just a thought. Regardless, if you prone to losing your hair, your gonna lose it. It's mostly genetics in my opinion. Steroids just speed the process up. I work out with an Italian guy that does all kinds of crap (deca, tren, test, ........) and has been for over a decade. Asshole has a head full of hair with no abnormal loss at all. Lol.
 
Shovelhead said:
Ivery only used deca once. But it was several weeks before I noticed any effects on anything. This was several years ago. The mass and strength gain was phenomenal. But these effects were not noticed until 4-5 weeks into it. Athe about week 10-11, that's when I noticed some limp issues and libido. Seems odd that you noticed this a week into it on the first try and then 2 weeks in on the second try. Possible your mind is getting to you (paranoia). Just a thought. Regardless, if you prone to losing your hair, your gonna lose it. It's mostly genetics in my opinion. Steroids just speed the process up. I work out with an Italian guy that does all kinds of crap (deca, tren, test, ........) and has been for over a decade. Asshole has a head full of hair with no abnormal loss at all. Lol.
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Hahaha. What’s funny is the only compound I have noticed losing hair on is deca. Not to the point of balding, I really have great genetics for hair but I did notice when drying my hair with towel that I would have hair drop and this only happened with a deca cycle.
 
muskate said:
There is this misconception that deca dick is the result of prolactin, which is not true. The problem with it is that deca releases dehydronandrolone, which is less androgenic than DHT, and replaces it. This is the reason you get these problems. However, you can easily solve this issue by using 50 mgs per day of proviron, since it is basically pure DHT, and it will solve the problem.
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I think people have the notion that Deca dick symptoms can be possibly treated by way of prolactin serum levels in the blood, which people have confused.. like everything you stated is true people are trying to treat their inability to ejaculate or achieve an erection and they start targeting prolactin serum levels even without getting blood work by way of cabergoline.
A low or moderate dosage of a DHT or a derivative and even melanotan 2 can even help minimize this unwanted side effect.. people have a tendency to treat one symptom with one drug and then they need another drug to counteract that drug and before they know it the right thing like a dog chasing their tail getting nowhere..

Good post bro!
 
the prolactin argument was debunked years ago. but i'm not surprised people keep pushing that theory

prolactin is an extremely poor indicator because it flucuates so much. you can test it out yourself..

i have yet to a lick of evidence that deca causes any sort of rise in prolactin
 
stevesmi said:
the prolactin argument was debunked years ago. but i'm not surprised people keep pushing that theory

prolactin is an extremely poor indicator because it flucuates so much. you can test it out yourself..

i have yet to a lick of evidence that deca causes any sort of rise in prolactin
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I suppose people just read something and they want to regurgitate it and it just makes its way through circulation..
Much like when you hear dudes in the gym talk about running growth and someone chimes in and says you have to run T4 with your growth in order to get the best results..
But if you ask that mother fucker why T4 has ever ever ever been suggested in the past he would have no idea.. but somewhere someone said you have to do it so I guess you have to do it! Lol. Although some of us here know why T4 has been suggested for "some" individuals... Everyone thinks everything applies to them too!
 
~Vision~ said:
I suppose people just read something and they want to regurgitate it and it just makes its way through circulation..
Much like when you hear dudes in the gym talk about running growth and someone chimes in and says you have to run T4 with your growth in order to get the best results..
But if you ask that mother fucker why T4 has ever ever ever been suggested in the past he would have no idea.. but somewhere someone said you have to do it so I guess you have to do it! Lol. Although some of us here know why T4 has been suggested for "some" individuals... Everyone thinks everything applies to them too!
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yup, and it is derived from steroid abuse and advice parroted by guys who abuse steroids. the guy who runs crazy amounts of GH for long periods of time will probably need to use T4 yes.. but the avg scmuck who uses HGH at proper levels and doesn't abuse it will have zero issues

i'm all for guys using steroids, but if you are going to use them, then use them the right way.. don't abuse them and don't take advice from people who abuse them where you think their knowledge translates to you.
 
In all honesty, and yes I know it’s counter productive... the only thing I’ve done to cause a massive prolactin spike was .5g of mdma on New Years.


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