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samgraves82
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Likee a rabid chihuahua LmaoIs that what I can feel? You nipping at my ankles
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It'll be my knees soon lol
Chemically Enhanced
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I bet he won't reach past your ass so watch out.
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samgraves82
Buff Brother
Noy if I can help it
samgraves82
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Mama said if I drink my milk ill be big and strong one day
Hollywood305
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If i post a pic of my patheticly average dick will everyone follow suite?? Its only 6 1/4 hard....prob 3.5" flaccid but it hits the g spot so no complaints plus im buying some pt141 to try out.
Nismo99
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**Caution - This body is under construction**
Recently back at it after a few years out of the gym, in which I completely ballooned. Prior to my hiatus I was an avid bodybuilder for about 4 solid years, off and on a couple of years leading up to that. Yes, I'm definitely fat and making a mockery of what the OP was searching for. Part of my journey back is owning it and winning 1 day at a time. F*&# It! Stare at my jelly!
Trt Test E @ 175mg/wk for 18mo. My levels hovered between 90-120 TT before going on. TRT has literally given me life back! First cycle was about 15 years ago, I had no knowledge, no guidance and no business messing with AAS. Present day, diet has been dialed in tight the past 4 months and I've dropped 30+ lbs. and counting.
Currently on Week#4 350mg/wk Test E & 35mg/day Tbol. I understand it would be better to drop more fat first, but this is what I chose. No estrogen issues currently. Full of energy and just a general good f'n vibe.
Age: 39 soon
BF %: lol
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Recently back at it after a few years out of the gym, in which I completely ballooned. Prior to my hiatus I was an avid bodybuilder for about 4 solid years, off and on a couple of years leading up to that. Yes, I'm definitely fat and making a mockery of what the OP was searching for. Part of my journey back is owning it and winning 1 day at a time. F*&# It! Stare at my jelly!
Trt Test E @ 175mg/wk for 18mo. My levels hovered between 90-120 TT before going on. TRT has literally given me life back! First cycle was about 15 years ago, I had no knowledge, no guidance and no business messing with AAS. Present day, diet has been dialed in tight the past 4 months and I've dropped 30+ lbs. and counting.
Currently on Week#4 350mg/wk Test E & 35mg/day Tbol. I understand it would be better to drop more fat first, but this is what I chose. No estrogen issues currently. Full of energy and just a general good f'n vibe.
Age: 39 soon
BF %: lol
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Sorry.... Current weight 244 lbs
straightnasty
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What’s your Height ?
Def some thick muscle there and ehhh some jelly but hey you enjoy food like myself , one of my downfalls as well .
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Height 5'10''
Nismo99
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How many calories are you eating each day?
I've bounced been between 2,300-2,700 cals, 190-220g Protein and staying under 50g Carbs. I feel really good, with a lot less inflammation, the lower I go with my carbs. Currently at 2,400 cals/day.
Sounds like your on the right path
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Vicious cycle.
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daniellsanchez24
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Im 22years old.. Im sitting at 220lb, still have things to improve like my legs, but its coming along!!
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Hollywood305
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Im 22years old.. Im sitting at 220lb, still have things to improve like my legs, but its coming along!!
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Im 10% motivated by these pics
Im 90% ready to just give up by these pics
I cant get that big...gear no gear my genetics wont allow it
daniellsanchez24
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You have to learn what your body likes, whats your diet and how often do you eat? How do you train?
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Hollywood305
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Im 5' 10" 235lbs lets say 18% bf give take a % just turned 40...train like an animal, 3 hours typically, right now 5000 cals a day just to get bigger...march 6th i start a 10 week hard cut....i have a thread on here
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Yea we can lock this now right???
daniellsanchez24
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3 hours is to much, i used to train like that and i never grew like that.. Train 1 hour 30min max. But while you train take no more then 30sec break each set. And dont focus on calories so much. I just focus on carbs and proteins mostly.. I have around 7-800g of carbs a day but its all from rice.. Focus more on going high healthy carbs and not so much calories. And you will defiently grow!!
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Hollywood305
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Cool man thanks...
I also have never used gear...i plan to but very minimal to start and done the right way
daniellsanchez24
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Yea im not gonna lie my test only cycle was great but I wouldnt use ore than 350-400mg/week. I went with 500mg and meh.
I was stronger sure, but PCT, time off, blah you feel like shit. Im gonna be 38 shortly and id rather run sarms and HGH to be honest.
Hollywood305
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Did u pack on size tho?
gashred777
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^^^ this
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Blah, I could never do that. I NEED FLAVOR! Some nicely marbled steak...potato...veggies....
Arms are pumped at 14 3/4”. Not very big for most but the biggest they’ve ever been for me. This is also off cycle. Trying to lose some of the muffin top before my next cycle in April. Hard to do while on Paxil though. Stupid drug makes me hungry and loosens my willpower.
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Yea look at the second page of this thread. The top photo is at the end of my cycle I ended up at 282.
Started at around 265ish.
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38 years old
6'9" 282 pounds in first picture after test only cycle at 500mg/week. Second picture is now after PCT. Weighing in around 265ish. I hover around 12-16% bodyfat give or take.
Hollywood these are them
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This one is old...
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Ah that worked better.
brother looking good...keep hitting it
Remind me of the rest of your stats? My forearms are 16.25-inch with a pump and I'm not on cycle but I might be a lot taller etc
Holy hell....damn you have huge forearms.
Yeah I forgot to post my stats. I realized it last night when I was doing some cardio.
I'll be 46 next week. 5'10" at 176lbs.
1st time posting longtime reader....
43yrs old
5'8
Started at 253lbs, 1st competition cut to 187lbs for weigh in.
currently 214lbs
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Wow, quite a transformation. That's a lot of weight you dropped.
1st time posting longtime reader....
43yrs old
5'8
Started at 253lbs, 1st competition cut to 187lbs for weigh in.
currently 214lbs
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dude great job man.
That's what I was thinking as well, very impressive. How long did it take you to go from the first pic to the second SH?
Hollywood305
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Bro why do u take gear???
That competition was April 6th 2018 so bout 9 months
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This post is getting me motivated as hell. 27 y/o, 6’0” 220 lbs off cycle for 4 years now. Got some body fat % to lose before my next cycle in a moth or so but you guys are awesome. 
Nismo99
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Solid bro.
Thanks lot of work, roughly 1.5hr work outs and 60-90 min cardio split a day.. I worked out almost everyday and seldom took a rest day. Different muscle group each day. Probably over trained but I was still getting results it was hard to stop lol...
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Nismo99
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You're not overtraining if you're gaining.
I think overtraining is a myth for the vast majority of people. Cross Fit people train for 8 hours a day leading up to competitions. In the caveman days, if you rested for a day, you didn't eat. The human body just needs plenty of sleep each night for proper recovery. I basically work out daily for 1.5 hours total and then I take a day off when my body tells me it's time for a break. I use a 4 day split: Trust your body.
Day 1: Legs
Day 2: Chest/Triceps
Day 3: Back/Bicep
Day 4 Shoulders
I also training calves almost every day...that was a game changer for me....reall help turn my calves from my weakest body part to "respectable".
daniellsanchez24
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Id say its important to rest, and i would say training a muscle over 1hour is excessive and your doing more of an endurance workout rather then gaining muscle. Rest day are needed regardless if you dont feel like you need it, believe it or not when the body rests it grows alot faster rather then training everyday. The body needs time to refuel and distribute nutrients and rebuild muscle fibers.. Sleeping alone will not fully recover your body...
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Nismo99
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Also have to keep in mind that when someone says they work out for 90mins they physically moving weight for maybe half that time. I've made my best gains by training much harder and with less rest days. I will change things up again once I hit another plateau.
Getting 7-8 hours of deep sleep each night is one of the best things one can do for recovery and growth.
daniellsanchez24
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So i have a crazy topic... I dont know if we are allowed to talk about gear dosages cuz im new to this.. But i know a few buddies of mine that do these cycles and i started the cycle and its pretty intense.. And i can guarantee most you will be surprised on what types of cycles these pros are running!!
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TheGainTrain
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So i have a crazy topic... I dont know if we are allowed to talk about gear dosages cuz im new to this.. But i know a few buddies of mine that do these cycles and i started the cycle and its pretty intense.. And i can guarantee most you will be surprised on what types of cycles these pros are running!!
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Yeah bro, I’d love to hear your doses and what the pros you know are up to! I’ve got a few buddies, pros and trainers of that tell me their cycles. Be great to hear more. Looking massive man! Killer work!
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daniellsanchez24
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Thanks man! Alright so before i get people talking shit this is me right now.
My average dosage would be around 1,000mg of test a week and 300mg tren...
Ive been off cycle for 4 months now.
And i just started this cycle 3 weeks ago and im prepared to blow up lol
Yes my bloods and everything are healthy as for now!!
This is my cycle that ive been on for 3 weeks now..
4000mg of test E Every week.
100mg of anadrol everyday.
10iu insulin 5 days a week.
4iu HGH everyday.
Its a simple but very strong and affective bulking cycle...
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Hollywood305
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Thanks man! Alright so before i get people talking shit this is me right now.
My average dosage would be around 1,000mg of test a week and 300mg tren...
Ive been off cycle for 4 months now.
And i just started this cycle 3 weeks ago and im prepared to blow up lol
Yes my bloods and everything are healthy as for now!!
This is my cycle that ive been on for 3 weeks now..
4000mg of test E Every week.
100mg of anadrol everyday.
10iu insulin 5 days a week.
4iu HGH everyday.
Its a simple but very strong and affective bulking cycle...
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4g of test lol...ok Bostin Lloyd
Hasnt this super test dosing been debunked already?
daniellsanchez24
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Lol believe it or not almost all pros do this. Most of them will never admit it..simply because it make them look bad.. But its the truth. Dallas mccarver was on ALOT more then 4g of test btw. So more test is obviously better results... And more consequences of course.
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No one needs 4g a week. Esp pros.
TheGainTrain
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Thanks man! Alright so before i get people talking shit this is me right now.
My average dosage would be around 1,000mg of test a week and 300mg tren...
Ive been off cycle for 4 months now.
And i just started this cycle 3 weeks ago and im prepared to blow up lol
Yes my bloods and everything are healthy as for now!!
This is my cycle that ive been on for 3 weeks now..
4000mg of test E Every week.
100mg of anadrol everyday.
10iu insulin 5 days a week.
4iu HGH everyday.
Its a simple but very strong and affective bulking cycle...
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Yeah, I’ve heard much similar. Test is king for mass no secret.
2-4 grams is usually what I hear the big boys talk about. Lotta risk for that reward imo. I’m at 800 test and it’s a lot for me, now anyway..
Are you taking ancillaries? And how much?
What negative sides do you notice with that much test?
Hope your cycle goes well. Looking massive man! And thanks.
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Hollywood305
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Remember hes only 22...the sides wont be relevant until hes 40
Just wow. Don't know what to say but that's a lot of f#cking gear. How are you feeling in general?
samgraves82
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Please do!
daniellsanchez24
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So far no sides, blood is fine.. For me test kicks in around the 4th-5th week.. And its true test is defiently king.. Im on my 3rd week and i look so much fuller and dense already. The first 2 weeks it hits hard!! Crazy dreams and nightmares for sure.. Defiently heart pumps a little faster once i inject also, Then its back to normal after 15min. (Im shooting around 13cc a week)
As for health im taking alot of vitimans for heart and liver. "Around 15-20 different vitimans" and im drinking 2 gallons of water mandatory because it helps keep my immune system functioning faster and also helps with my organs and liver healthy. And meals are little to no salt. Just plan chicken and rice..
Untill i see my blood pressure go up that is when ill take more necessary measures..
I have tried this cycle before but i had to stop at my 4th week. Due to the fact that on the 3rd or 4th week i got so damn strong so fast i tore a mucsle on my leg and that same week i tore another muscle on my chest!! Lmao i was repping 405lb on bench like it was nothing.. So im excited to run a full cycle of this..
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Or, as per his other post, 4 weeks in. I've discussed in the past knowing guys who do grams a week (or claim to) plus we all know of several via social media (inc Bostin). Every single one eventually regrets it. And, as I said earlier, pros need it the least. If part of being a pro is the advantage genetics gave them then their need to take high amounts of gear is less 'need' genetically speaking and more career wise. Also, with the odd exception, the gains seem less permanent. As in take 3g+ a week, gain loads, come of 3g and lose it.
daniellsanchez24
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I agree, ive always been curious about trying it.. Im aware of the consequences im not denying it, just seeing how much of a diffrence this cycle will really make.
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I wouldn't say all the pros do that much. Maybe they do nowadays but I was just listening to Palumbo talk about what he used for gear on his youtube channel and he said he used to only do about 1000mg of Test. And he repeats many times that Test was mostly his only steroid to get bigger.
daniellsanchez24
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Most pros that are talked about and that are popular are very genetically gifted, (thats why they are so popular) but there is still plently of pros that arent talked about who do such dosages..
And as for palumdo i personally dont believe that.. Its just very hard to believe that he was better then alot of competitors who i know took more gear then 1000mg of test.. Hes gifted with gentics for sure but there is no way he would be that high level of bodybuilding with only 1000mg of test and his genetics.. To me he says that becuase its more of a prideful thing to say.
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How often have we seen this skewed logic again and again? Hundreds of times. ''It's what the pros do... my brothers mate best buddy knows a pro and they admitted it''. I've been around pros and, in one way or another, involved in this 40 years this summer. NOT ONE Pro has admitted to doing 4+ grams a week. Dorian wrote what he did and no one believed it. I DO know of guys who do (or have done) grams a week. My gym owner says it a lot (he's a light weight competitor). Dave Crosland did a documentary on it where he went to 5g a week and ended up in hospital and admitted 2g was optimal. We all know Bostin Loyd has backed off from 4-5g a week and was never a pro.
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Only because it excuses what you do. No different to a social drinker who is alcoholic and someone drinking cider down the park who is the same. In fact we all, myself included, will all look to excuse the excesses of our occasionally silly habits by saying 'X does more'.
daniellsanchez24
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Im not saying "take that much and youll be pro" and obviously he says that..thats why hes a lightweight.. Lol And just because one person went to the hospital because of those dosages doesnt mean everyone is. Everyones body reacts different.. Im not playing the he said she said game because i have no reason to lie, again look at dallas mccarver, you think if he didnt pass away he wouldve tpuld us that he was taking 10g of test?? No way!! Like i said its a pride thing
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I did a quick look online on Dorian Yates and even he said the max dose he ever took was 1000mg of Test, 500mg of Deca and 50mg of DBol. Apparently he was also on 8mg of GH as well. But Dorian also had good genetics. So I have a hard time believing why Palumbo or Yates would lie about what they're taking after they're already open about it and done with competing. There's no point for them to lie about how much.
Yates even states in an interview that more then that isn't really going to do anything and there were some guys that took more but it did jack for them.
Yates even states in an interview that more then that isn't really going to do anything and there were some guys that took more but it did jack for them.
On that then we agree. If the truth is no pro will admit it then the claim 'all pros do it' is null and void. It'd be better, as per my gym buddy, to admit you do it cos you want to.
The issue, such as it is, is you're not lying that you BELIEVE it's what they do. It'd be something of a lie to say you KNOW. I've read and seen some of the cycles suggested (inc the so-called Death cycle of Dallas). MMI years back had a 'secret pro' article. Heck I can think of another name (you may not know him) who was on 5g a week. A buddy of mine called Sam Parker - 1000kg total powerlifter, 170kg bodyweight. He also says 2g would have been better. Google him.
daniellsanchez24
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I get what you mean.. But i do believe that they take that much, I dont think im wrong but hey i could be wrong!! That is the main reason why i am doing the cycle im doing right now.. So i can see for my self if its really what they say it is. But so far its pretty intense cycle for only 3 weeks.. I can only imagine what a few months will do! Guess i will find out and see where it takes me!! Lol
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TheGainTrain
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Appreciate you sharing!
My biggest concern, and many I’ve spoken to will agree...
The biggest downside of massive cycles (health ramifications not included) is that, especially on your earlier cycles, there is a direct relationship also to the amount of gear we do in our early cycles that becomes a sort of “footprint” for what our bodies will “want” in order to grow and keep making gains. It’s almost like our bodies can get conditioned to high dose early cycles and if we don’t continue and add milligrams our bodies won’t respond to a lower dose cycle.
This in my, and others opinion is the BIGGEST downside to running high dose cycles not to mention the other things people have already mentioned.
But at the end of the day, you do you and I’ll do me. Agreed that many take these doses and most lie.. play safe big guy! Hope it’s a productive cycle and you share it with us all!
Respect from northern Canada.
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My biggest concern, and many I’ve spoken to will agree...
The biggest downside of massive cycles (health ramifications not included) is that, especially on your earlier cycles, there is a direct relationship also to the amount of gear we do in our early cycles that becomes a sort of “footprint” for what our bodies will “want” in order to grow and keep making gains. It’s almost like our bodies can get conditioned to high dose early cycles and if we don’t continue and add milligrams our bodies won’t respond to a lower dose cycle.
This in my, and others opinion is the BIGGEST downside to running high dose cycles not to mention the other things people have already mentioned.
But at the end of the day, you do you and I’ll do me. Agreed that many take these doses and most lie.. play safe big guy! Hope it’s a productive cycle and you share it with us all!
Respect from northern Canada.
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I feel like you ought to put up a photo of your good self.
He did. It's a few pages back.
Ahh ok. All he needs to do is skip a page then.
I'll inject it for you. Just drop your pants and bend over.
TheGainTrain
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Also, since we all sharing. Not all pros and mass monsters take that much.
My best friend Mike, and I’m not trying to be condescending or take away from your obvious hard work, is bigger and more developed than you and takes much less gear.
He’s NEVER gone over a gram of test. Ex. For mass he may take 50mg dbol, 750 test, 200 tren 4-600 mast.
He’s not a pro, tho he’s trains them and could be if he wanted. Some guys do take 5g... but not all.
Here’s mike
And I know his claimed doses are true, as he’s a very good friend and we order together often.
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My best friend Mike, and I’m not trying to be condescending or take away from your obvious hard work, is bigger and more developed than you and takes much less gear.
He’s NEVER gone over a gram of test. Ex. For mass he may take 50mg dbol, 750 test, 200 tren 4-600 mast.
He’s not a pro, tho he’s trains them and could be if he wanted. Some guys do take 5g... but not all.
Here’s mike
And I know his claimed doses are true, as he’s a very good friend and we order together often.
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You have to agree the Gear usage is off topic of "How swole" Everyone is... Maybe I'll just go back to Lurking lol...
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daniellsanchez24
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Wow hes a beast!! Hes also older then me im assuming? So muscle maturity plays a big factor as well.. Probably has years of training over me so that too plays a big factor. But regardless i wouldnt mind looking like that with his dosages.. Its impressiveAlso, since we all sharing. Not all pros and mass monsters take that much.
My best friend Mike, and I’m not trying to be condescending or take away from your obvious hard work, is bigger and more developed than you and takes much less gear.
He’s NEVER gone over a gram of test. Ex. For mass he may take 50mg dbol, 750 test, 200 tren 4-600 mast.
He’s not a pro, tho he’s trains them and could be if he wanted. Some guys do take 5g... but not all.
Here’s mike
And I know his claimed doses are true, as he’s a very good friend and we order together often.
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You have to agree the Gear usage is off topic of "How swole" Everyone is... Maybe I'll just go back to Lurking lol...
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Solid side chest.
wesley_swolle
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I could like like Mike, I just choose not to, lol Straight up beast. Hes what... 5'8"Also, since we all sharing. Not all pros and mass monsters take that much.
My best friend Mike, and I’m not trying to be condescending or take away from your obvious hard work, is bigger and more developed than you and takes much less gear.
He’s NEVER gone over a gram of test. Ex. For mass he may take 50mg dbol, 750 test, 200 tren 4-600 mast.
He’s not a pro, tho he’s trains them and could be if he wanted. Some guys do take 5g... but not all.
Here’s mike
And I know his claimed doses are true, as he’s a very good friend and we order together often.
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On the gear thing (before we move on lol) I had a chat with our local IFBB pro, James Llewellin, who trains in my gym. Right now he's cutting for an upcoming competition. I reminded him that he had posted his competition cycle 2 years back and even had fans and followers not believe his cycle. It totaled, IIRC, under 2g total.
daniellsanchez24
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Wow!! You need to get his training and diet advice so i can use it! Lol
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TheGainTrain
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daniellsanchez24
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Ill look into it.. Could defiently learn a few things from himHe's on FB, has a site and coaches too
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TheGainTrain
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Yes, mike is my age, 37. He’s been at it since his early teens. Genetic freak for sure. Even at 20 when he was natty, he looked roided the F up.
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Hollywood305
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I hope D sanchez health holds up forreal...imho that much test is trying to bypass genetics...maybe even guys with shit genetics can supercede the bad dealt hand and become monsters
I believe most guys who we admire however just have superior genetics...
Lee Preist NEVER used gear to bulk, only during cutting and prep cycles...hes go on dozens of interviews stating this...his bulk drugs were kfc and mcdonalds lol
I believe most guys who we admire however just have superior genetics...
Lee Preist NEVER used gear to bulk, only during cutting and prep cycles...hes go on dozens of interviews stating this...his bulk drugs were kfc and mcdonalds lol
daniellsanchez24
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I hope everything works well also! Thanks man!! And btw lee priest is such a jerk! [emoji23][emoji23] he talks so bad about steroid users but people forget that he has been on HGH since he was like 6yrs old!!! Thats a hugee advantage on everyone.. Not fair lol
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daniellsanchez24
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No i didnt mean it Litterly, jerk as in im jealous haha.Lee Priest is awesome lol.
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You ever watch his Q&A on Instagram
its epic
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He'd be taller lol
Uhh...yeah he did. I've watched video's of him talking about how he used gear when he was younger. Not sure if this will post but let's see... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLBahdPaJ2w
So today I had the gym owner use my phone to take a photo or two for me. I scaled in, dressed as I have been every time I weigh myself, at 299lbs. I taped my right forearm at 16.25-inches and my right upper arm (both flexed) at dead on 20-inches. My arm has been a 1/4-inch more but that's the biggest my forearm has been. I'll see if I can post photos for you.
Nice. My forearms 14.5" I've never trained them think it's from wrenching for 20 years.
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