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Hello all,

Running T-bol 50mg daily for six weeks
Primo 600mg weekly for 12 weeks
Test Cyp 500mg weekly for 12 weeks

Do I need to run HGC for my PTC? This is my second cycle, first was small with only Cyp test and I didn't do any pct (my bad, don't want to make that mistake again)

Thank you all so much for your help. I truly do appreciate the help this site offers everyone.
 
you NEVER use hcg in pct man...

so, when you use testosterone, you are clearly adding large amounts of it into your body which causes you to eventually be suppressed when you stop using it because your body forgets how to produce it on its own... hence, the need for pct... so, what hcg does is MIMIC your lh and fsh, just like taking testosterone, mimics testosterone production which eventually leads to suppression, correct... so when you mimic lh and fsh, what happens when you stop using it?? im sure you can put two and two together... the reason you use hcg is to get your lh and fsh STIMULATED before pct, so they are not completely bottomed out because when you use test, they are non existent... just like when you run an oral without test... when you go into pct, your test is bottomed out.... when you go into pct using test, AT LEAST its much higher making recovery easier as you reteach your body to produce on its own... so if you use hcg BEFORE pct, then it gives that boost while your body learns how to produce on its own... HOWEVER, if you run hcg IN PCT or after, you end up suppressing yourself because you are just mimicking, not helping to jumpstart anything like nolva and clomid do for your natural testosterone production... NOT TO MENTION, hcg ALSO increases estrogen... so, i just want you to FULLY understand so you dont think its just someone talking and blowing smoke... this is fact... its easy to understand when you see it written down…


pct 9-14

when you are in pct, you are going to get a major spike in cortisol... cortisol is termed the "gains killer" for a reason... it will put you into a catabolic state which will not allow you to build muscle and at the same time will eat it away, on top of the fact you will also get unwanted fat gain... so you will lose muscle and gain fat that you had just busted your ass an entire cycle for... GW and MK prevent the rise in cortisol... not only that but they keep you performing at a level you were while on cycle being the ultimate performance enhancers they are... on top of the fact that mk2866 is the ultimate for healing and recovery, which is imperative in pct as well as keeping strength up to a very high level... gw will also treat cholesterol and blood pressure, which are definitely things that need addressed in pct as well…Organ ST plays a pivotal role in a post-cycle therapy (PCT). There’s a strong misconception that the role of a PCT is simply to restart the natural testosterone production that was shut down from the steroid cycle. While this is true, there are a lot of the other issues that the body has to deal with during a PCT: hormone fluctuations, high liver enzymes, increased blood pressure, pressure on the kidneys and endocrine system, high stress and cortisol levels, the list goes on...Organ ST helps address all of these problems and helps you recover in a timely manner. The quicker you recover, the less likelihood of any long-term problems occurring, and the more likely that all gains you make during your cycle are retained.






clomid 50/50/50/25/25/25

nolva 40/40/40/20/20/20 

aromasin 12.5 mg eod (adjust accordingly)
DGA ORGAN ST https://www.dganutrition.com/cycle-support/organ-st

mk-2866 25 mg day (ONLY 4 WEEKS) 

gw-501516 20 mg day esarms.com
 
Hello all,

Running T-bol 50mg daily for six weeks
Primo 600mg weekly for 12 weeks
Test Cyp 500mg weekly for 12 weeks

Do I need to run HGC for my PTC? This is my second cycle, first was small with only Cyp test and I didn't do any pct (my bad, don't want to make that mistake again)

Thank you all so much for your help. I truly do appreciate the help this site offers everyone.

Let's have some stats.
 
hcg should never be used in pct, it will delay recovery

the purpose of pct is 2 things: soft landing and also to prepare your body to recover. although hcg will help you with the first issue, it will hamper the 2nd. it would be like using a low dose of testosterone in pct. makes no sense
 
The way I’ve done it historically is I just do 1-3 pins of hcg and then stop. Finish with your clomid etc.
 
I use a few weeks prior to pct but stop prior to clomid etc. and ONLY if I’m running things like tren in a cycle.
 
you NEVER use hcg in pct man...

so, when you use testosterone, you are clearly adding large amounts of it into your body which causes you to eventually be suppressed when you stop using it because your body forgets how to produce it on its own... hence, the need for pct... so, what hcg does is MIMIC your lh and fsh, just like taking testosterone, mimics testosterone production which eventually leads to suppression, correct... so when you mimic lh and fsh, what happens when you stop using it?? im sure you can put two and two together... the reason you use hcg is to get your lh and fsh STIMULATED before pct, so they are not completely bottomed out because when you use test, they are non existent... just like when you run an oral without test... when you go into pct, your test is bottomed out.... when you go into pct using test, AT LEAST its much higher making recovery easier as you reteach your body to produce on its own... so if you use hcg BEFORE pct, then it gives that boost while your body learns how to produce on its own... HOWEVER, if you run hcg IN PCT or after, you end up suppressing yourself because you are just mimicking, not helping to jumpstart anything like nolva and clomid do for your natural testosterone production... NOT TO MENTION, hcg ALSO increases estrogen... so, i just want you to FULLY understand so you dont think its just someone talking and blowing smoke... this is fact... its easy to understand when you see it written down…


pct 9-14

when you are in pct, you are going to get a major spike in cortisol... cortisol is termed the "gains killer" for a reason... it will put you into a catabolic state which will not allow you to build muscle and at the same time will eat it away, on top of the fact you will also get unwanted fat gain... so you will lose muscle and gain fat that you had just busted your ass an entire cycle for... GW and MK prevent the rise in cortisol... not only that but they keep you performing at a level you were while on cycle being the ultimate performance enhancers they are... on top of the fact that mk2866 is the ultimate for healing and recovery, which is imperative in pct as well as keeping strength up to a very high level... gw will also treat cholesterol and blood pressure, which are definitely things that need addressed in pct as well…Organ ST plays a pivotal role in a post-cycle therapy (PCT). There’s a strong misconception that the role of a PCT is simply to restart the natural testosterone production that was shut down from the steroid cycle. While this is true, there are a lot of the other issues that the body has to deal with during a PCT: hormone fluctuations, high liver enzymes, increased blood pressure, pressure on the kidneys and endocrine system, high stress and cortisol levels, the list goes on...Organ ST helps address all of these problems and helps you recover in a timely manner. The quicker you recover, the less likelihood of any long-term problems occurring, and the more likely that all gains you make during your cycle are retained.






clomid 50/50/50/25/25/25

nolva 40/40/40/20/20/20 

aromasin 12.5 mg eod (adjust accordingly)
DGA ORGAN ST https://www.dganutrition.com/cycle-support/organ-st

mk-2866 25 mg day (ONLY 4 WEEKS) 

gw-501516 20 mg day esarms.com
Dylan has you set. In addition you can lower your Test to 350-400. You don't need 500 with Primo and Tbol.
 
Hello all,

Running T-bol 50mg daily for six weeks
Primo 600mg weekly for 12 weeks
Test Cyp 500mg weekly for 12 weeks

Do I need to run HGC for my PTC? This is my second cycle, first was small with only Cyp test and I didn't do any pct (my bad, don't want to make that mistake again)

Thank you all so much for your help. I truly do appreciate the help this site offers everyone.
Never ever run hcg in pct
 
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