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jbranken

jbranken

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What's up everyone? I'm kickstarting my Test/Tren cycle with Sarms1 LGD-4033. Why not oral aas? Well, my liver just needs a break for once. It's not healthy to repeatedly run orals. LGD shouldn't elevate ALT/AST and it's great for adding lean, keepable mass. I ran the sarms1 Triple Stack and it was potent as hell so I figured I would give their LGD a try.

6' 2
242 lbs
13%

1-8 LGD-4033 10mg+
1-12 Test E 300mg
1-5 Tren E 200mg
6-10 Tren E 300mg+
6-12 GW-50156 20mg
1-12 Aromasin 12.5mg EOD
1-12 Caber .25mg E3D
12-14 HCG 1000IU

Other supps: N2guard, HCGenerate, Gear, n2slin, Tudca, Glutamine, creatine, Taurine, vit c, b6, b12, fish oil, flax oil

PCT:
N2Guard
Forma Stanzol
Unleashed
Test Infusion
MHO Poppers
Ostarine 25mg
GW 20mg


I'm pretty conservative with compounds and dosages. I feel like this leaves me a lot of room to grow with aas for years to come. It also helps to avoid injury and side effects by not putting on too much weight at once. I'll be increasing dosages as I feel necessary to combat myostatin. I'm hoping to put on 7-10 lbs of lean mass which shouldn't be too difficult. Thanks for following!

Update:
Took first dose of LGD two days ago. I dosed 7mg then 7mg the next day and today 7.5mg. I'll gradually increase until I'm at 10mg, then I'll increase by 1mg each week. I trained delts yesterday with no strength increases to report.
 
Legit bro. I'm on test/tren now and still trying decide which sarm I'm going to add in with it.
 
Jb..

why dont you up the tren with such a low dose of tes?? Or up the tes with such a low dose of tren??

just odd to see lower doses on both.
 
gymrat827 said:
Jb..

why dont you up the tren with such a low dose of tes?? Or up the tes with such a low dose of tren??

just odd to see lower doses on both.
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Great question! A few reasons...

Tren and I do NOT get along.. Especially tren ace. This is my attempt at keeping sides low. When I run test too much higher than tren, I get broad sided. Besides, tren is 5x more anabolic than test so to me, running a high dose of test in a tren cycle is pointless. I'll minimize the test dosage and let tren do its thing. I'll be increasing tren slowly along the way as I feel comfortable.
 
Update:
So yesterday was my third dose of LGD and one thing I remember about a prior run with it is how fast things typically start happening. I increased 10lbs on deads and 10lbs on my last set of squats. I'm up 2lbs this morning sitting at 244 even. Obviously holding a bit of water but strength is up so I'll take it. Other than that, waking up before my alarm clock with a big adrenaline rush the past few mornings. Probably elevated bp. Shall see what happens the next few days.
 
jbranken said:
Great question! A few reasons...

Tren and I do NOT get along.. Especially tren ace. This is my attempt at keeping sides low. When I run test too much higher than tren, I get broad sided. Besides, tren is 5x more anabolic than test so to me, running a high dose of test in a tren cycle is pointless. I'll minimize the test dosage and let tren do its thing. I'll be increasing tren slowly along the way as I feel comfortable.
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but your good on a lower dose of Tren E...???

odd.
 
gymrat827 said:
but your good on a lower dose of Tren E...???

odd.
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Absolutely bro. I haven't abused steroids like so many others. I've always been conservative with dosages and I can easily make gains on 200-300mg tren and a low dose of test. Not really odd at all. It's a much healthier approach to cycling IMO
 
jbranken said:
Absolutely bro. I haven't abused steroids like so many others. I've always been conservative with dosages and I can easily make gains on 200-300mg tren and a low dose of test. Not really odd at all. It's a much healthier approach to cycling IMO
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its odd that your using tren E if you have bad sides with it....I know you said you dont get along with Ace but at least you can stop and 3 days later the night sweats and other bad sides will cease.

its common to see tes @ 150-200 & tren @ 350-500. the low tes doesnt bring out the bad bad tren sides....just the basic/light ones.....which you ll get from anything really.
 
gymrat827 said:
its odd that your using tren E if you have bad sides with it....I know you said you dont get along with Ace but at least you can stop and 3 days later the night sweats and other bad sides will cease.

its common to see tes @ 150-200 & tren @ 350-500. the low tes doesnt bring out the bad bad tren sides....just the basic/light ones.....which you ll get from anything really.
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Tren A is just a different animal to me. Instead of building up slowly in my system like tren E I feel like I get nailed quickly from it. I'll increase my dosage over 10-12 weeks but for now, I'm starting at 200mg. The gains on a lower dose of tren are more realistic anyways... Anything more is just going to fall off during pct
 
Update:
Resting today. Dosed 8mg of LGD this morning. Weight sitting at 244 even still. Hit chest hard yesterday and added one rep to my DB flat bench. Doesn't seem like much, but progress is progress and this is how we grow. I'll say this though, I had the most intense pump I've had in months. I try to not be "that guy" but, I did spend some time in the mirror after the workout. I was amazed at how I looked and I made sure to keep the shirt off until my gf got home so she could gaze :D
 
jbranken said:
Update:
Resting today. Dosed 8mg of LGD this morning. Weight sitting at 244 even still. Hit chest hard yesterday and added one rep to my DB flat bench. Doesn't seem like much, but progress is progress and this is how we grow. I'll say this though, I had the most intense pump I've had in months. I try to not be "that guy" but, I did spend some time in the mirror after the workout. I was amazed at how I looked and I made sure to keep the shirt off until my gf got home so she could gaze :D
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Wait till you try 20mg of LGD it's the most intense pumps I think I have ever had in my life. All I ask is try 20mg just for one day ;)


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The Prodigy said:
Wait till you try 20mg of LGD it's the most intense pumps I think I have ever had in my life. All I ask is try 20mg just for one day ;)


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Damn bro. That'd give me crazy lethargy and headaches, not to mention bp issues lol. I haven't even worked up to 10mg yet
 
jbranken said:
Damn bro. That'd give me crazy lethargy and headaches, not to mention bp issues lol. I haven't even worked up to 10mg yet
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Your lethargy on lgd etc? I had no problems with any of those things you mention. I also recommend that everyone starts at 10mg because that's the best dose to be starting at anyways.


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stevesmi said:
i've always wondered about LGD with steroids, but this log is showing its a good match..
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You should take a look at my 8 week log it's no joke lgd is potent stuff. I went up 15lbs and had a 4.5% drop in bf the first month and I set some good prs now I'm in my second month of lgd and I just threw in some GW.


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gymrat827 said:
its odd that your using tren E if you have bad sides with it....I know you said you dont get along with Ace but at least you can stop and 3 days later the night sweats and other bad sides will cease.

its common to see tes @ 150-200 & tren @ 350-500. the low tes doesnt bring out the bad bad tren sides....just the basic/light ones.....which you ll get from anything really.
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I agree, I run 100mg of test with higher tren ace with no major issues side wise. Ace can be out of the system much faster if sides get bad but I love tren. I feel great on it. I have found successful ways to combat most sides.
 
The Prodigy said:
Your lethargy on lgd etc? I had no problems with any of those things you mention. I also recommend that everyone starts at 10mg because that's the best dose to be starting at anyways.


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Yea if I dont ramp up slow, I get headaches and even insomnia from it. It's more powerful than a lot of guys realize. They see "sarm" and don't think it will produce aas like results but it most certainly does.

Update:
Cleaned up sodium in my diet and drank a ton of water the past few days and dropped 4 lbs in water weight. Yesterday morning, sitting at 240.6lbs. Dosing LGD at 8mg. Hit back and bi's yesterday and had a great workout. I was feeling strong so I threw an extra 10lbs on the barbell and started banging out bent over rows. Matched last workouts reps, minus one on the last set. Made no gains on lat pull downs or pull-ups but I added another 5 lbs to my T-bar rows and matched last workouts reps again. Killer workout and very intense. Arms were pumped as hell afterward
 
jbranken said:
Yea if I dont ramp up slow, I get headaches and even insomnia from it. It's more powerful than a lot of guys realize. They see "sarm" and don't think it will produce aas like results but it most certainly does.

Update:
Cleaned up sodium in my diet and drank a ton of water the past few days and dropped 4 lbs in water weight. Yesterday morning, sitting at 240.6lbs. Dosing LGD at 8mg. Hit back and bi's yesterday and had a great workout. I was feeling strong so I threw an extra 10lbs on the barbell and started banging out bent over rows. Matched last workouts reps, minus one on the last set. Made no gains on lat pull downs or pull-ups but I added another 5 lbs to my T-bar rows and matched last workouts reps again. Killer workout and very intense. Arms were pumped as hell afterward
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Agreed. People don't realize just how powerful LGD can be, which makes it a perfect kickstart to a cycle to bring on rapid gains in size and strength
 
Its great to hear that LGD is so effective and fast acting. Sounds like you making some good progress bro.

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Update:
240.6 lbs, 8mg LGD. I trained delts yesterday with no strength gains to report. I always have a difficult time making gains with delts though. Yesterday was the start of week 2 and it's time to report on the sides. Stomach discomfort, nausea, difficulty sleeping, headaches. These are the things I have experienced the past week. Some of them could even be associated with tren. Anyway, I'm 95% sure that my caber is prami because I've taken two doses of .25mg this past week and got sick as fuck each time. I would take it before bed and the nausea would keep me up all night and feel sick the entire next day with no appetite. This could be the cause of my nausea all week but I feel nautious even days after the last dose of it. Hopefully my aromasin will effectively control estro so that prolactin will stay at bay, because I'm not taking one more dose of that fucking prami. I can't sleep, eat or train after taking that shit which is counterproductive to bodybuilding.
 
Damn that sucks bro.. nausea is the worst.

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Update:
Skipped my LGD dose this morning to see if my sick feeling went away and it did not. I felt sick all day and I took my LGD pre workout and never had any additional discomfort. In fact, I feel great! I'm convinced it's the tren and that stupid prami I was taking. Trained legs yesterday and killed it, but had an odd chest workout today. I did my first 4 sets, felt strong as hell and my pumps were skin splitting. Then suddenly, I lost momentum during inclines, lost the pump, and felt extremely weak. I was struggling to match my last workouts reps. The rest of the workout went like this. I guess we have these days now and then but I started out so strong, it was almost like the blood stopped flowing to my muscles. I'll just have to hit it harder in another 6 days. Disappointing because it's my favorite training day
 
Nice job on the sodium and losing the water

I bet u have prami too. Stuff makes me sick as hell and caber its fine.....
 
Feeling much better with less nausea during the day. I moved my daily LGD dose to pre workout since it's later in the day and has no effect on my stomach at this time. Dosing in the morning was just too rough but all is good now. Weight is at 239.6 and I'm at 9mg of LGD. I tried to redeem myself during my back/bi workout since my chest/tri workout was shameful. It went okay with no strength gains to report. Hit shoulders yesterday and also no strength gains. I've taken my calories down considerably so it may have something to do with it. Pumps are crazy right now though. I'll move up to 10mg today and really start putting LGD to the test
 
Update:
Worked legs on Friday and added 10lbs to my squat! I had more in me but I didn't want to push the limits. Hit chest on Sunday and completely redeemed myself from the last chest workout. Feeling strong and tight as hell! Quite a bit of muscle hardness
 
Keep up the good work, bro! There are awesome days where you will PR on anything and everything and then other days where you can't even match a previous workout. The human body is made to function on an ebb cycle of high/low activity and winter is a period of low activity so don't get frustrated it kind of boils down to genetics. Being a beast is a marathon not a sprint so as long as you keep making small amounts of progress over time it adds up. Most guys want to add 50 lbs to their lifts in 2-3 months when in reality they probably can't add 50 lbs to a lift in a year. Keep your eye on the prize! Good things will come.
 
travishibachi said:
Keep up the good work, bro! There are awesome days where you will PR on anything and everything and then other days where you can't even match a previous workout. The human body is made to function on an ebb cycle of high/low activity and winter is a period of low activity so don't get frustrated it kind of boils down to genetics. Being a beast is a marathon not a sprint so as long as you keep making small amounts of progress over time it adds up. Most guys want to add 50 lbs to their lifts in 2-3 months when in reality they probably can't add 50 lbs to a lift in a year. Keep your eye on the prize! Good things will come.
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Absolutely bro. That's why my cycles are so mild. Large leaps in size or strength are horrible for the body. Slow and steady is the way to go for me
 
travishibachi said:
Keep up the good work, bro! There are awesome days where you will PR on anything and everything and then other days where you can't even match a previous workout. The human body is made to function on an ebb cycle of high/low activity and winter is a period of low activity so don't get frustrated it kind of boils down to genetics. Being a beast is a marathon not a sprint so as long as you keep making small amounts of progress over time it adds up. Most guys want to add 50 lbs to their lifts in 2-3 months when in reality they probably can't add 50 lbs to a lift in a year. Keep your eye on the prize! Good things will come.
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Well said bro so much truth there..

jbranken said:
Absolutely bro. That's why my cycles are so mild. Large leaps in size or strength are horrible for the body. Slow and steady is the way to go for me
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Great thought process here... I agree with the mild cycles ideology. Keep it simple and consistent


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jbranken said:
Absolutely bro. That's why my cycles are so mild. Large leaps in size or strength are horrible for the body. Slow and steady is the way to go for me
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This is the way I like to keep it now. No need to go all out for me anymore. Slow and steady.
 
Update:
I think it's day 20 or so of the cycle. Im officially going beast mode :D. Taking 12mg LGD each day and tren have my aggression through the roof. Sides are nearly non existent at the moment but tren probably isn't in full swing quite yet. N2guard and HCTZ have my bp under control. Using Tudca for extra liver protection. Other than some night sweats, I feel fucking awesome! I'm even taking my prami with dinner every 3 days without any problems. No more stomach discomfort and very happy about it. My diet is 95% eggs, sweet potatoes, brown rice and chicken. Pretty clean I must say with the occasional "oops, I fell in the fridge and ate something bad". I blasted my bi's on Tuesday and made great gains. Hit delts today and still can't make any progress on them but still matching all PR's
 
Nice bro, I'm really starting to shred up and harden on s4/mast/tren. I cut the test out alltogether. See where that takes me, this is the first time not running test at all with a cycle.
 
meathead96 said:
Nice bro, I'm really starting to shred up and harden on s4/mast/tren. I cut the test out alltogether. See where that takes me, this is the first time not running test at all with a cycle.
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Damn man, that gotta be a sick stack. Perfect for getting hard, lean, vascular, and shredded.....not to mention the strength!
 
meathead96 said:
Nice bro, I'm really starting to shred up and harden on s4/mast/tren. I cut the test out alltogether. See where that takes me, this is the first time not running test at all with a cycle.
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Awesome bro! Let me know how you like it without test. I've heard good things and I may do the same next time
 
jbranken said:
So am I. I must say, in loving tren E much more than tren a. My sides are way tolerable and I feel great
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I havent tried tren yet... did you start with tren a first just in case you needed to drop it? Pinning that EOD doesnt seem to fun.

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jbranken said:
So am I. I must say, in loving tren E much more than tren a. My sides are way tolerable and I feel great
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Nice bro, i have yet to try enth. I always use ace, just like that its quicker in and out but ED and EOD pins do get old


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Shrine said:
I havent tried tren yet... did you start with tren a first just in case you needed to drop it? Pinning that EOD doesnt seem to fun.

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Yea I've used ace. Enan isn't giving me tren cough
 
Update:
Bumping Tren to 300mg EW starting today and bumping LGD to 14mg ED. Weight is sitting around 237. Looking much thicker and dropped a little bf. Been a great recomp so far. Cheated a little bit the past few days but hopefully I can clean things up today and through the weekend. I'm gaining strength in my workouts very steadily so I'm right where I want to be. Sides have been extremely mild so far. I think if more people would begin every cycle with low doses and slowly ramp up, they'd also experience less sides. It allows the body to adapt rather than bombarding it with 400mg+ tren and everything else they're running all at once. I've been sleeping great and night sweats have basically disappeared.
 
jbranken said:
Update:
Bumping Tren to 300mg EW starting today and bumping LGD to 14mg ED. Weight is sitting around 237. Looking much thicker and dropped a little bf. Been a great recomp so far. Cheated a little bit the past few days but hopefully I can clean things up today and through the weekend. I'm gaining strength in my workouts very steadily so I'm right where I want to be. Sides have been extremely mild so far. I think if more people would begin every cycle with low doses and slowly ramp up, they'd also experience less sides. It allows the body to adapt rather than bombarding it with 400mg+ tren and everything else they're running all at once. I've been sleeping great and night sweats have basically disappeared.
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Good stuff bro, I did horrible on my diet over the holidays lol. Gotta get back on track. Keep killin it.
 
paja said:
Jaaaaa is depend how good is taste lol we can make a trade what you thing
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A nice woman I know who went to culinary school made it. It's the best I've ever had! Unfortunately, 1/4 of it has already made it into my gut so it's hardly worth anything to you now haha. I'll always share though ;)
 
jbranken said:
A nice woman I know who went to culinary school made it. It's the best I've ever had! Unfortunately, 1/4 of it has already made it into my gut so it's hardly worth anything to you now haha. I'll always share though ;)
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Damnn lol so you start eating the cheesecake lol
 
jbranken said:
Update:
Bumping Tren to 300mg EW starting today and bumping LGD to 14mg ED. Weight is sitting around 237. Looking much thicker and dropped a little bf. Been a great recomp so far. Cheated a little bit the past few days but hopefully I can clean things up today and through the weekend. I'm gaining strength in my workouts very steadily so I'm right where I want to be. Sides have been extremely mild so far. I think if more people would begin every cycle with low doses and slowly ramp up, they'd also experience less sides. It allows the body to adapt rather than bombarding it with 400mg+ tren and everything else they're running all at once. I've been sleeping great and night sweats have basically disappeared.
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Sounds like it going very well JB. Glad the sides havent been to big of a deal bro.

As far as the eating goes... its hard to excape all this good ass food. I deep fried a turkey last night that I injected with Olive Oil, salt, pepper and oregano. It was the truth:eek:


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Shrine said:
Sounds like it going very well JB. Glad the sides havent been to big of a deal bro.

As far as the eating goes... its hard to excape all this good ass food. I deep fried a turkey last night that I injected with Olive Oil, salt, pepper and oregano. It was the truth:eek:

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Mmm food-gasm!
 
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