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sickening skittles
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its my mid delt where it would normally insert into the arm it looks like it inserts 2 or 3 inches further down my arm and the pain is getting worse
M_T pockets
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Why dont you get it checked????
sickening skittles
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because it's only been this way for a few hours
M_T pockets
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Urgent Care..
sickening skittles
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I don't want to spend 80 dollars if out Turks out to be a pulled muscle our something stupid
I think that I know what your Problem is, so here is a Site to check it out.
It will save some Time, instead of Me asking you 1,000 Questions..................................... JP
www.orthoinfo.aaos.org/topic.cfm?topic=a00032
It will save some Time, instead of Me asking you 1,000 Questions..................................... JP
www.orthoinfo.aaos.org/topic.cfm?topic=a00032
you gotta provide more info then that.. what did you do which triggered the pain?
if you go to a doctor find a good one that specializes in that.
if you go to a regular doc or urgent care they will just refer you anyway and throw some drugs at the problem.
if you go to a doctor find a good one that specializes in that.
if you go to a regular doc or urgent care they will just refer you anyway and throw some drugs at the problem.
krazieone56
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Ya that could be a detached muscle or possibly worse. You need to at least go to an urgent care they will at least xray you and send you to the next expert.
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13bret
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On a serious note maybe get EER in here or pm him
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Can you verify source in pm for robolics wanna avoid being scammed just wanna make sure the email is solid
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Mrsurgeon28
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So is that a no or what asked for your help not a dick answer later bro
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krazieone56
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Bro. This thread is about a hurt member not robolics. Its not a dick answer. There is a ton of robolics threads on this forum. Plus the robolics email is in the review section. Its called the search button learn to love it.
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All good got it covered back to this guys shoulder
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I've said it a million times .. best way to avoid injuries is don't get them in the first place.
if you are a douche in the gym and using poor form or you haven't build a proper base yet and jump on the sauce then that's a fast way to get yourself injured.
if you are a douche in the gym and using poor form or you haven't build a proper base yet and jump on the sauce then that's a fast way to get yourself injured.
M_T pockets
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I didnt realize getting an Injury was unavoidable.
M_T pockets
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LMAO. That was funny bro. Dick Answer lol.
krazieone56
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Lifters need to listen to their bodies. If u feel some thing weird when lifting listen. Back off and do something else. Don't just say oh fuck it its fine and keep pushing. This is how injuries happen. Not knowing when u r fatigued
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weightlifting is the safest sport out there. you aren't running into others (football, soccer, any other contact sport) you aren't smashing against the ground (tennis, volleyball, running, basketball)
if you get injured weightlifting its because you fucked up.. either you used bad form, or you improved too fast, or you have existing imbalances that you allowed to happen without correcting. now tripping over a weight at the gym and falling and cracking your head open is one thing, but hurting a shoulder doing a set is 100% on you
in weightlifting it 100% is. I have never in my 6 years as a HS weightlifting coach/judge, or in my 20+ years in a gym seen a person get injured weightlifting unless they did something very stupid.
I don't know why people think weightlifting is dangerous, but they let their kids play hockey or football.. I argue with parents all the fucking time on this
I guarantee you this kid injured his shoulder cause he jumped on sauce with no base and his shoulder couldn't handle the increased weight in such a short period of time. don't blame weightlifting for that.
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exactly. and 'seasoned lifters' are the ones who are most guilty of not following that. instead they take PK's and NSAID's before the gym and then fuck themselves up during their workout then bitch about it. weightlifting is nothing like any other sport out there.. its you vs. the bar. not you vs. a dude 100 pounds more than you smashing into you full speed or going at your knees
this attitude that its 'tough' to train through injuries is exactly how I fucked myself up years ago when I was a competitive runner. I listened to idiot friends instead of listening to my own body which was telling me to stop
I hear what your saying, but 9/10 you come out with these HOLIER THAN THOU posts to some of the members, just not warranted that's all.
Appreciate your opinion all the same, as you are entitled to it.
dude you been on this site a week and you have me all figured out already? damn bro, you should play poker.
telling someone not to juice before building a base, and to use proper form is holier than thou? I hear about these injuries all the time and if guys don't learn how to prevent injuries they will keep getting them. that's not my opinion, that is a fact..
the main issue is newbsticks don't want to be told what they are doing is wrong. so it takes an injury for them to learn the hard way. so they get butthurt when I tell them what they did wrong. if I see that shit at the gym I don't say a word to them, but on here if you come on and have an issue I will tell you .. that's what this forum is for, to help each other. DUH!
so whose alter are you anyway?
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I told the kid to go see a specialist back on page 1.
my other posts were for others and the OP too to help them avoid getting injured. no shit sometimes injuries are unavoidable, I never said they weren't. but if you lift STUPID your chance of injury is much much greater. if you lift SMART its very rare to get hurt.
you didn't rub me the wrong way.. you just see things differently and didn't understand my post..
lets use this as an example. in football lets say you play LB.. and you go to make a tackle and lower your head vs. squaring your shoulders and properly tackling the RB. your chance of getting a neck injury is much much greater if you lower your head vs. squaring your shoulders and keeping your head up. hope that makes sense
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snackmachine
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snackmachine
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ceo is selling estrogen now???
he is working on a tranny sub forum. the mod team put him in charge of that.
In the context in which I wrote it, it is correct.
chicks with dicks post their pics. I think that's what we're going to call it. Unless a better title comes up.
krazieone56
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Trannyselfies.com ?
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It's a forum on this site though, not a site of its own.
Or are you jsut asking for tranny selfies?
krazieone56
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M_T pockets
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Whether your new to this site or been here a long time I dont think its smart to ask wth is wrong w my shoulder etc....
If you have an injury your best bet is to go to Urgent Care like I said 40 some posts ago.
Its your health and if a few bucks is going to keep you from a dr than you need to think about your health more carefully.
Urgent Care vs post a thread on an injury hmmmm.
If you have an injury your best bet is to go to Urgent Care like I said 40 some posts ago.
Its your health and if a few bucks is going to keep you from a dr than you need to think about your health more carefully.
Urgent Care vs post a thread on an injury hmmmm.
krazieone56
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He is only asking for advice. Nothing wrong in that. Maybe he is hoping we would hear his symptoms and tell him positive news. If his shoulder is that misaligned I'm sure he has fig out by now he has a serious injury.
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M_T pockets
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Nothing wrong yea but hes gotten no real feedback aside from guys barking at each other or tranny remarks.
Yea thats helping him out alot!!
Yea thats helping him out alot!!
krazieone56
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Well that was funny. But, my first response is it sounds like a detached muscle and to go to a Dr and get an xray. That's the smartest thing to do
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sickening skittles
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ok guys it feels a lot better today. but it still kinda hurts and it looks like it's not as low as it was yesterday maybe it was just some kind of bruise or something
M_T out of all the people I would think you would enjoy the barking tranny's outside the trailer park door of this thread. Too bad I'm not a tranny cause I don't know what I'm missing on the other forum.
Just kidding M_T you actually gave the guy the best advice go see the doc.
Quick edit - if you don't go see the doc just take it very easy and rehab yourself - I have done it many times myself
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krazieone56
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I think it is foolish not to go get it checked out. A bruise doesn't lower your deltoid. You either displaced a muscle or the joint is misaligned. I wouldn't mess w that.
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sickening skittles
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Btw I think I hurt it doing close grip bench pressing. I have a bad habit of flaring my lats when I close grip bench I never felt any pain or anything only hours after the workout
sickening skittles
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well I don't think it was actually detached lower it just looked like it was. like maybe it was swollen on the lower part or something it hurts but it wasn't anything serious it was like at three out of ten
krazieone56
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OK. I still think its unwise to let it go unchecked. You could have strained it. Which is like tearing it. But its ur body.
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sickening skittles
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Okay I'm gonna go do some light close grips and see if it hurts. if it starts to get any worse I'll go to the doctor
sickening skittles
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It was definitely the lat flaring that caused it. when I did it again it hurt a little. when I didn't with proper form that didn't hurt at all
okay.. and this is exactly what I'm talking about
first off you failed to listen to your body.. if it hurts then DO NOT DO IT!!
second off like I have been preaching you must do lifts with proper form. close grip bench is notorious for guys using dogshit form because they go too heavy. in this case since when do we engage lats when we do close grip bench? the answer is you should engage the chest and tri's first and foremost otherwise your form is bad. in fact I would tell you to dump close grip and do weighted dips instead, atleast that way its hopefully harder to use bad form
obviously I am guessing but I bet what you are doing is when you press the bar its coming off too low which is causing your shoulders and lats to stretch out.. I really hope you didn't tear something soft cause I can imagine it would be easy to do that with bad form
sickening skittles
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well it wasn't hurting when I was doing it all. and
Dips are snap citY there probably isn't any other exercise that's worse for your shoulders
Dips are snap citY there probably isn't any other exercise that's worse for your shoulders
sickening skittles
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I know that post sounded like I was trying to be a smart ass but I really do appreciate your help
nope it's AIDS.
sickening skittles
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I'm just gonna let it heal on its own. I never go heavy on anything my workout is 10 to 12 reps for everything
dude if you want to build your pushing muscles dips are the king of compound lifts. you just gotta do proper form.. snap city? yes if you don't know how to properly do them.. I can say the same thing about any lift.
learn to engage your muscles when you workout and not the soft tissues and you will be in this game a long time. bring your ego to the gym and you won't last long. that's the best advice you can get
sickening skittles
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Id wager decline dumbbells are better
krazieone56
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Everyone is missing Steve's point.
One, don't add on weights you can't handle with proper form just to look cool and injure yourself. Not saying you are doing that but it sure seems like something is off.
Two, if u r are hurting and u have a separation of something in that area you don't go testing it out by doing the same excercise you did injury with! You go to the damn doctor.
And me personally I think you are being very stubborn and not smart by "letting it heal on its own". Muscles heal. Even when torn they heal in a way. But not really. Bones heal when broken. Ligaments, cartilage, or any other tissue like that doesn't heal on its own when Injured. You need to be seen by a professional.
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One, don't add on weights you can't handle with proper form just to look cool and injure yourself. Not saying you are doing that but it sure seems like something is off.
Two, if u r are hurting and u have a separation of something in that area you don't go testing it out by doing the same excercise you did injury with! You go to the damn doctor.
And me personally I think you are being very stubborn and not smart by "letting it heal on its own". Muscles heal. Even when torn they heal in a way. But not really. Bones heal when broken. Ligaments, cartilage, or any other tissue like that doesn't heal on its own when Injured. You need to be seen by a professional.
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I will take that wager and give you 5 to 1 on top of it.
poll any BB site and ask whats better for building your core push muscles.. weighted dips vs. decline dumbells and see what poll results you get
13bret
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I vote dips!
Alright, no contest, no need to persue the sites, my man dips weighted or not, all day long!!!!
krazieone56
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Ya dips are great. They work a lot of areas.
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I concur with CEO...
Hahaha I needed that laugh. My wifes mother was admited to the hospital been here for 5 hours. EER I dont know how you hang around these places. I guess a paycheck helps.
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I don't hang, I'm in and out as fast as I can fix them or stabilize them to get them to ICU...ER can be fun, those nurses are nuts. Especially if its slow b/c they are adrenalin junks and they need their "action" fix.
sickening skittles
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On further inspection it feels warm and the pain is gone now. I probably should have mentioned that I injected their last week
sickening skittles
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by the way decline dumbbell are definitely better. better range of motion safer on your shoulders and easier to progress on.
discussion pretty much over
discussion pretty much over
Splat
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In all seriousness, you need to get it checked out. At first glance it sounded like a dislocation.
In any event, just because it doesn't hurt now doesn't mean you didn't fuck something up. I think you need to get it checked out - you visually saw a disturbance in your muscle, that's not a good thing. I think you said you'd be out of pocket 80 bucks. That's nothing. That's dinner and a movie or whatever. Just go get checked out.
sickening skittles
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Pretty sure its internal bleeding from pinning.
odadeo
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Yes, sounds like a dislocation, but I'm not a Dr.
Let me guess, you can't do BW dips or you probably don't have the knowledge to do them right? You do know there is a such thing as Chest dips and Tri Dips, right?
Also let me guess, you can't do to many pull-us either?
I don't have time to go into the mechanics but this is a pretty good article on Dips Vs Bench.
http://chestsculpting.com/one-of-the-most-powerful-chest-exercises-for-men/
My friend, I'm pushing 300+ for 10-12, Sure as shit not a paper weight. You see you continue to aggravate it, over time you will need surgery. Only friendly advice.
this thread is a mess.
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Bro, Fizz drop some knowledge on this brother about Dips vs Decline press. Only way I could possible see the Decline being "better" for pec development over chest Dips is if you have a HUGE barre chest and don't have the flexibility to get that "stretch" at the bottom of the Chest Dip. All lifting brings with it the possibility of an injury, especially as we reach our max loads or do reps near our max load but the Dip is not one unless you don't know wtf you r doing. My fear with the dip has zero to do with shoulders but more sternum cracking once you advance to weighted dips.
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I could feel stress on my sternum with a custom dip bar at my gym. Then they got the assisted one. The thing about dips os the breathing if you're worried about sternum issues. I always did decline bench and just started focusing on hammer strength. I had an arthritic feeling from dips when I was doing them a few months ago and that is because I was already doing 600 reps of chest exercises prior to. However, when I was on a mixed rotation (some volume sets, some strength), mass amounts of dips made girls come up to me on the streets to have sex with them. Dips are a top 3 exercise if you already have a good base. You have to do a forward lean to them and go deep. I don't lock out at the top either... On anything, because it puts stress on bone instead of muscle.
. Lol @ this thread!BINGO!!!! Most don't have the strength base to do dips properly...
I prefer the dips standing that look like a gymnastic parallel bar (where both bars are in perfect parallel) vs the V type bar.
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krazieone56
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sickening skittles
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Like I said decline dumbbells are safer have a better range of motion. have better adduction on the humorous. and it's easier to progress on.
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