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STEROID CYCLE THEORIES - Rich Piana

he has said a lot of things on his youtube which he passes as fact because he has superior genetics over 99.9% of guys out there. when you are a genetic freak you can shit on your hands and do 10 pound curls at the gym and still build muscle. and a genetic freak he is.

I like the guy but he makes money off hits to his youtube channel and selling his supps, so his intention is to get people to watch. the more you watch the more money he makes. the youtube craze with fitness channels is amazing, its a wonderful thing but you have to take it all with a grain of salt

it seems to me Mike Chang revolutionized youtube and made so much money off of it now you have every joe out there trying to copy his strategy. buy that red drink!

I was shocked to learn that one dude on youtube makes 5K a month just off his youtube page lol.. big money in it when you build up a lot of subscribers
 
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he has said a lot of things on his youtube which he passes as fact because he has superior genetics over 99.9% of guys out there. when you are a genetic freak you can shit on your hands and do 10 pound curls at the gym and still build muscle. and a genetic freak he is.

I like the guy but he makes money off hits to his youtube channel and selling his supps, so his intention is to get people to watch. the more you watch the more money he makes. the youtube craze with fitness channels is amazing, its a wonderful thing but you have to take it all with a grain of salt

it seems to me Mike Chang revolutionized youtube and made so much money off of it now you have every joe out there trying to copy his strategy. buy that red drink!

I was shocked to learn that one dude on youtube makes 5K a month just off his youtube page lol.. big money in it when you build up a lot of subscribers
Yes I agree. 5k? Man I'm in the wrong profession lol. I've never heard of him until I seen I picture of him with Jay cutler today and I though holy piss that dude is massive
 
Rich brings up a lot of information. Some is good, some is not so good in my opinion. I take everything he says with a grain of salt, but I do appreciate his openness and honesty
 
Rich brings up a lot of information. Some is good, some is not so good in my opinion. I take everything he says with a grain of salt, but I do appreciate his openness and honesty
That's for sure he is honest lol, in another video about his most crazy cycle ever he ran 2iu every 1.5 -2 hours plus 1g test per week with 1g tren etc etc
 
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I agree with all of your guys' points, def take everything you hear on the internet with a grain of salt. With that said, I do love Piana, the dude is a pure baddass. I do find it hilarious that the guy swears that he has poor genetics; I'm like c'mon man, get outta hear with that bull butter.
 
rich also said to switch out the compounds you are using during a cycle to keep your body receptors quessing (from adapting). That is interesting. Comments?
 
He talks about using 20ius per day of hgh at one point for a contest
Maybe he does say that in some video somewhere, I'll take your word on it. But I have seen him claim he is anti HGH, and has not taken it for more than a decade, because of internal organ growth/HGH gut issues.
 
So take all the comments on this forum with a grain of salt too?

Absolutely! You don't know who is behind the keyboard around here. You have to do your own research and make decisions based in what you learn. Gathering info on a forum such as this is just part of that said research.

There are a lot of awesome and super smart gurus around here but honestly id never do something just because someone said it in a forum on the intern, no matter how much I respected them. It is still my body, and I need multiple sources and subsequent research before I'm putting anything in there.
 
I have to Agree 100% with "Stevesmi".
When you have Genetics like Rich, you can't Fuck Up, no matter how hard you try.
I've known a couple Freaks in my time.
You would be Amazed at how Fucked their Workout Routine was, and they still put on Muscle Faster, than everyone else.
It was something to Watch.......................... JP
 
I have to Agree 100% with "Stevesmi".
When you have Genetics like Rich, you can't Fuck Up, no matter how hard you try.
I've known a couple Freaks in my time.
You would be Amazed at how Fucked their Workout Routine was, and they still put on Muscle Faster, than everyone else.
It was something to Watch.......................... JP

yeah i worked out with a buddy of mine all summer my junior year of high school. i improved quite a bit, and my buddy went nowhere.. we had similar diets (hell his diet was probably better), we had the same workouts, we had the same sleep. it all boiled down the genetics. granted i don't have Piana genetics, but my genetics are probably better than most, my buddy's genetics are horrible
 
So take all the comments on this forum with a grain of salt too?

depends on your perspective.

this forum is a great way to exchange ideas, experiences, and watch each other progress. if you depend on the forum to spoon feed you then you probably won't get far since we are all so different.

line up 100 guys and have them run the same cycle and you will get 100 different results. that's why fitness is so fascinating, its not black and white. Piana would be in the top 1% of that group, he could fuck up a cup of coffee and still blow 99% of this forum away thanks to his genetics. Piana could eat oreo cookies and pizza everyday and still look better than someone who eats rock solid and works 5X harder in the gym. it is what it is
 
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Maybe he does say that in some video somewhere, I'll take your word on it. But I have seen him claim he is anti HGH, and has not taken it for more than a decade, because of internal organ growth/HGH gut issues.
Yes it was in a video about his "most crazy cycle" and he said it was like 15-20 years ago or something
 
depends on your perspective.

this forum is a great way to exchange ideas, experiences, and watch each other progress. if you depend on the forum to spoon feed you then you probably won't get far since we are all so different.

line up 100 guys and have them run the same cycle and you will get 100 different results. that's why fitness is so fascinating, its not black and white. Piana would be in the top 1% of that group, he could fuck up a cup of coffee and still blow 99% of this forum away thanks to his genetics. Piana could eat oreo cookies and pizza everyday and still look better than someone who eats rock solid and works 5X harder in the gym. it is what it is
Yea lol your right. I have a buddy who can literally go up or down 15 pounds in a month lol. If he wants to be shredded for a party today, he can. Bulky for a competition in a few weeks, he can. Pisses me off
 
just to follow up to what I said.

you can look at it this way. the best personal trainers aren't dudes who are former Mr Olympia's.. in fact those guys might be the worst. simply because they have zero perspective on what the average joe goes through with their genetics. they probably have no idea why this skinny fucking whimp can't put on any muscle and assume its because they don't know how to diet or train, when its the fact their genetics suck.
 
Yes I agree. 5k? Man I'm in the wrong profession lol. I've never heard of him until I seen I picture of him with Jay cutler today and I though holy piss that dude is massive
the dudes arms and shoulders and pecs are fake
Its Pmaa injections
 
Rich brings up a lot of information. Some is good, some is not so good in my opinion. I take everything he says with a grain of salt, but I do appreciate his openness and honesty

This x2. He does have a level of honesty u don't normally hear.
 
I watched a few stuff by Rich and I didn't really like it very much at all. I got more information and more inspiration from watching the Arnold Blueprint video.
 
Some people seem to be very fooled by Rich. He is a very successful businessman and he has SOME knowledge of bbing. He has terrible genetics that is why he never was able to go pro he tried. His arms are not big by any means without the PMMA implants that he has in them (his ex gf has posted numerous times on other boards about this). I will say this though his knowledge in some fields is very very good. People grew much better back then on smaller doses because the purity of the products was 10x better then what raw powders are today.
 
.....line up 100 guys and have them run the same cycle and you will get 100 different results. that's why fitness is so fascinating, its not black and white. Piana would be in the top 1% of that group, he could fuck up a cup of coffee and still blow 99% of this forum away thanks to his genetics. Piana could eat oreo cookies and pizza everyday and still look better than someone who eats rock solid and works 5X harder in the gym.

Yup...one thing I have noticed amoungst HUNDREDS of poeple that go to the gym or are on forums. They think that if they take the right pill or eat the right about of protein, find the right workout routine....that they can look like Arnold. Its just not the way it is. Look at Michael Phelps, the guy SMOKED POT all the way up to the last minute of him being ablte to qualify for the olympics. Than...what does he do. He stops, gets off his lazy ass and wins a TON OF GOLD MEDALS!! I mean. that is the truth. Some people are geneticly gifted. Remember Michael Irving who played for the Dallas Coyboys? The guy basicly was a Coke head, got caught with hookers and blow in a hotel room. Point is, it DID NOT AFFECT HIS PERFORMANCE ONE BIT!!! He was sitll faster, better, stronger than most of the receivers in the NFL. You could say, "ITS NOT FAIR!!" Maybe not, who said life was fair?
 
Very true we see this all the time right here on evo. 15%-20% body fat and I'm ready to hop on a cycle and run tren right outta the gate cuase someone said that’s what works. I’m 33 and I didn’t even touch one drop until this year and even when I was a pencil thin cyclist back in January I could still go out beat most people in my area on a local ride because I: 1. Trained hard waking up at 4:30-5am every morning to do interval work or time trials. 2. Ate clean foods and ate and drank frequently to keep my metabolism boosted and 3. I was not afraid to suffer and then suffer some more.

I think that there are a lot of people who think - Hey I will jump on some test and just blow up and look like Greek god yet they are not even willing to suffer to get up and get something from across the room.
 
rich also said to switch out the compounds you are using during a cycle to keep your body receptors quessing (from adapting). That is interesting. Comments?

I'd have to say that is probably true. JMHO. The rational and logic behind it is sound and I recently tried the method and gained a few pounds doing it. My body get use to drugs extremely quickly and as much as I juice I'm not as responsive as I once was so gaining some legit weight while trying his method was pretty awesome from my perspective.


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Personally I don't think Rich does this for the money. Popularity perhaps to get his supps selling, but he can't give a shit about 5k a month. Rich Piana has had money for a while and has enough to wipe his ass with. If anything is a ploy for popularity i believe it would be to sell his new supp line. But even then I don't find it deceitful because he even tells some people "DONT BUY MY PRODUCT! BUY FOOD!"


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Some people seem to be very fooled by Rich. He is a very successful businessman and he has SOME knowledge of bbing. He has terrible genetics that is why he never was able to go pro he tried. His arms are not big by any means without the PMMA implants that he has in them (his ex gf has posted numerous times on other boards about this). I will say this though his knowledge in some fields is very very good. People grew much better back then on smaller doses because the purity of the products was 10x better then what raw powders are today.

So you believe a pissed off ex girlfriend who is trying to spread trash talk? I don't think I buy that personally. She's probably pissed that he dumped her and is now famous.


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the dudes arms and shoulders and pecs are fake
Its Pmaa injections

So you think almost all his muscles are fake? Sounds like a silly rumor to me. Plus you can see the striation in his delts and his pecs aren't even that great so excusing them as fake just doesn't sound credible at all. JMO


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So you believe a pissed off ex girlfriend who is trying to spread trash talk? I don't think I buy that personally. She's probably pissed that he dumped her and is now famous.


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I think you need to understand his story a bit better bud. I actually like him as a person he's a super friendly guy and fun to be around.

Him and his ex are still very close friends. He made his money on property rentals he's a great businessman. He took PMMA injections in Mexico in his arms and shoulders till he reached the size he wants.
 
I think you need to understand his story a bit better bud. I actually like him as a person he's a super friendly guy and fun to be around.

Him and his ex are still very close friends. He made his money on property rentals he's a great businessman. He took PMMA injections in Mexico in his arms and shoulders till he reached the size he wants.

Well I'm not saying it's false for sure, I'm just saying it's hard to believe Rich is a big ass liar. Because if that's true then that's exactly what he is. I'd rather hear it from his own mouth.

If they are still good friend then why would she be selling him out like that on the Internet and making him look like a huge piece of shit?


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rich also said to switch out the compounds you are using during a cycle to keep your body receptors quessing (from adapting). That is interesting. Comments?

I believe it.. With any drug your body gets use to it and needs more and more each time. If u switch to a different one your body says wow this is new . Takes little to get the same effect as the later. Alcohol was the same way when we were all younger rite? So y wouldn't it be with ABS??


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Sorry maybe not during a cycle but cycles to cycles...!!! After time using same products. I should have read a little better.


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I feel like this is a good theory if u have been saturating ur body with androgens for years to mix it up so the body has no clue but for the most of us it is not necessary


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Ive watched almost all his vids ...... I even bought one of his tanks.... he does switch around his words between earlier vids and newer vids...
 
So you think almost all his muscles are fake? Sounds like a silly rumor to me. Plus you can see the striation in his delts and his pecs aren't even that great so excusing them as fake just doesn't sound credible at all. JMO


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yeah I was going to say the same thing.. the guy has a lot of size on him. and bad genetics? okay he didn't make it pro but shit he still has better genetics than 99% of guys out there. he doesn't have the top .03 genetics it takes to be a pro or the .01 genetics to make mr. Olympia.. but his genetics are great. if he says he doesn't have great genetics than he needs to find the nearest comic book store and swap genetics with the first geek he sees and then come back and claim his genetics suck
 
yeah I was going to say the same thing.. the guy has a lot of size on him. and bad genetics? okay he didn't make it pro but shit he still has better genetics than 99% of guys out there. he doesn't have the top .03 genetics it takes to be a pro or the .01 genetics to make mr. Olympia.. but his genetics are great. if he says he doesn't have great genetics than he needs to find the nearest comic book store and swap genetics with the first geek he sees and then come back and claim his genetics suck
Lol.... his arms are huge.... 23 and a half inches when him and hulk compared
 
Lol.... his arms are huge.... 23 and a half inches when him and hulk compared

yeah its ridiculous how these monsters claim they have bad genetics.

its like in middle school how the cocky jocks on the playground would bully the smaller kids just cause they were born bigger, then as adults you find out they sell insurance for a living or some other shit job.
 
yeah its ridiculous how these monsters claim they have bad genetics.

its like in middle school how the cocky jocks on the playground would bully the smaller kids just cause they were born bigger, then as adults you find out they sell insurance for a living or some other shit job.
Lmfao. ... I love bumping into the kids that pushed me around as a kid.... being that I almost have like 100 pounds on them it's funny to see them kiss my azz lol.... good feeling
 
Lmfao. ... I love bumping into the kids that pushed me around as a kid.... being that I almost have like 100 pounds on them it's funny to see them kiss my azz lol.... good feeling
Funny you say that. I called a plumbing company out to fix my sink last week and they sent out this kid that used to make fun of me all the time in high school probably 8 years ago. he's 5 foot 9 170ish and I'm 6ft 265 and man was he sucking up to me lololol asking me how shits been since high school like he gave a shit and thought we were buds and I was just thinking, 'Yea it's not so Fuckin funny now when your fixing my pipes and I should dead lift you right out of my house' haha. Been even funnier if he kicked my ass hahaha
 
Funny you say that. I called a plumbing company out to fix my sink last week and they sent out this kid that used to make fun of me all the time in high school probably 8 years ago. he's 5 foot 9 170ish and I'm 6ft 265 and man was he sucking up to me lololol asking me how shits been since high school like he gave a shit and thought we were buds and I was just thinking, 'Yea it's not so Fuckin funny now when your fixing my pipes and I should dead lift you right out of my house' haha. Been even funnier if he kicked my ass hahaha
Greatest feeling ever bro..... I love it ...... makes all the hard work worth so much more
 
Lmfao. ... I love bumping into the kids that pushed me around as a kid.... being that I almost have like 100 pounds on them it's funny to see them kiss my azz lol.... good feeling

It's a great feeling indeed. I got pushed around my fair share in high school when I weighed a whopping 100 lbs. nowadays a lot of the guys that pushed me around have came to me for advice. I don't hold grudges, and I don't dwell on the past. I try to be a good guy as much as I can be, but it's a nice feeling to be respected like that. It's a great motivator
 
It's a great feeling indeed. I got pushed around my fair share in high school when I weighed a whopping 100 lbs. nowadays a lot of the guys that pushed me around have came to me for advice. I don't hold grudges, and I don't dwell on the past. I try to be a good guy as much as I can be, but it's a nice feeling to be respected like that. It's a great motivator
Yes for sure. ... . I'm not mean to them... I just smile really hard... and lol to my self.... lol
 
It's a great feeling indeed. I got pushed around my fair share in high school when I weighed a whopping 100 lbs. nowadays a lot of the guys that pushed me around have came to me for advice. I don't hold grudges, and I don't dwell on the past. I try to be a good guy as much as I can be, but it's a nice feeling to be respected like that. It's a great motivator

Just fun to see the more "buoyant" people float up to the top, while the trash settles to the bottom in due time.


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Wow.... lightweight. .... .lol.... just jk

at the time the lowest weight class was 119. I had a really hard time making weight at 129, I just ran a lot.. and before my meets I would run laps in a huge sweater to get rid of a couple pounds to make weight.. it sucked. I did not eat a single bite of cake, ice cream, pizza, or any of that shit my entire senior year. it was purely diet and a lot of running that kept my weight down. i was smart for a young guy.

I tore it up all the way to state, no juice at all. i'm sure a bunch of guys I went against were juiced up but I still beat them. glad I stayed natty though, not worth it over a medal
 
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at the time the lowest weight class was 119. I had a really hard time making weight at 129, I just ran a lot.. and before my meets I would run laps in a huge sweater to get rid of a couple pounds to make weight.. it sucked. I did not eat a single bite of cake, ice cream, pizza, or any of that shit my entire senior year. it was purely diet and a lot of running that kept my weight down. i was smart for a young guy.

I tore it up all the way to state, no juice at all. i'm sure a bunch of guys I went against were juiced up but I still beat them. glad I stayed natty though, not worth it over a medal
That's cool man. We have similar backgrounds, except mine was in wrestling. My freshman year I was literally too light to even be allowed to wrestle by law. I was 92 lbs and you had to be 95, so I started lifting and gained weight. Wrestled 103 and 112 by end of freshman season. That year I sucked bad, but I kept pushing and by junior year I was wrestling 125 and nearly made state. I lost the final match at sectionals that would have taken me to state but ended with a great record
 
That's cool man. We have similar backgrounds, except mine was in wrestling. My freshman year I was literally too light to even be allowed to wrestle by law. I was 92 lbs and you had to be 95, so I started lifting and gained weight. Wrestled 103 and 112 by end of freshman season. That year I sucked bad, but I kept pushing and by junior year I was wrestling 125 and nearly made state. I lost the final match at sectionals that would have taken me to state but ended with a great record

See in Pa, we have, sectionals>districts>regionals then STATES. Bro I wrestled 85lbs in 8th grade, to 160lbs in 12th, damn I was skinny!, haha
 
See in Pa, we have, sectionals>districts>regionals then STATES. Bro I wrestled 85lbs in 8th grade, to 160lbs in 12th, damn I was skinny!, haha
Yeh that's ass backwards from here in Illinois. Its district, regional, sectional, state
 
I sucked at all sports .... but running track.... I was a fast f#cker lol.... my caves have always been my thing... horse shoes

you never know... had I not been exposed to weightlifting at 15 I would of never known how much I liked it and was good at it. not sure what tempted me to go into my parents garage and find those weights that were full of spider webs, the first time I grabbed one a spider bit me actually. if anything that made me want to do it more.
 
you never know... had I not been exposed to weightlifting at 15 I would of never known how much I liked it and was good at it. not sure what tempted me to go into my parents garage and find those weights that were full of spider webs, the first time I grabbed one a spider bit me actually. if anything that made me want to do it more.
I started lifting because I wanted to be like my brother lol.... now he wants to be like me .... true story. ... he stopped years ago
 
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