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Planing for 24 year OLD Bulking Cycle

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Wolfpack bro

here i am With my bad English sorry about that but i need to ask you about some common problems which mostly people face.

I think i need a testosterone booster as i am facing semen(sperm is getting out of the penis) or drops problem these days it might be possible because i am eating warm(hot) and Dry diet which cause Liver heat and stomach heat or maybe low sperm count can you help in this matter ( i can use GNC testosterone booster) or Should i Use HCG or HcGenerate direct (I have read About them that it should use along PCT cycle)

as i have never used any cycle in my life before its been 1 month now that i am training hard in GYM as my muscle are responding well and becoming more hard as it were strong before i had done 6 months of training 1.5 year back Now that's my plan which i had shared with you before is given below.

Studio: Age: 24
Height: 5'5"
Weight: 45kg (99.208lbs)
BF: never measured but i can tell that i am Skinny
Training: 6 months of personal training 1.5 years back and i had used the GNC MEGA MARP without any Testosterone booster like HCG and HCgenerate and had faced many problem now i have been reading forums so have enough knowledge about Supplements and Starting Cycle and PCT and now i have Again started the work out and according to my condition i will jump on first bulking Cycle after 5 months.

Diet : Meat, Potato, pizza, cheese burger , All vegetable and fruit salad, Rice, Chocolate, bread,Oat meal,Milkshake,ice cream, egg Whites( it disturbs me so i did'n't add them yet) more will share with you soon the complete diet.

I did not add any supplement and vitamin shakes yet Here i am going to Use the Muscle tech Isolate Supplement in the Start of coming October or you should suggest me good supplement.
cycle Experience: None (prescribe what would be best)

My life's 1st Bulking cycle

Week 1-6 Dbol 10mg p/d

week 1-2 Testostarone or (Sustanon 250) 50mg p/w Inject on mondey
week 3-4 Testostarone or (Sustanon 250) 100mg p/w
week 5-6 Testostarone or (Sustanon 250) 150mg p/w
week 7-8 Testostarone or (Sustanon 250) 100mg p/w
week 9-10 Testostarone or (Sustanon 250) 50mg p/w
week 11-12 Testostarone or (Sustanon 250) 50mg p/w
Total Week 1-12 600mg dose

Week 1-2 Deca Durablin 50mg Inject on Thursday
Week 3-4 Deca Durablin 100mg
Week 5-6 Deca Durablin 150mg
week 7-8 Deca Durablin 100mg
week 9-10 Deca Durablin 50mg
Week 1-10 500mg dose


Should i add Arimidex here ?

PCT

I want you to Add here the dosage of :
N2guard
HCG
HCGenerate

Week 13-14 Clomid 25mg p/d + Nolvadex 10mg p/d



I know that if i use this stuff right now the bulk which i will gain will loose after the last inject so my Question is that i am eating well and my muscle are getting strong day by day but i am not gaining the weight so how i might be able to use this cycle.i Need Muscle mass not water mass.
 
how about we drop the Deca Durabolin? and just run a sustanon 250+dbol cycle? let's go that route IMO
 
Sure as i mention i am having problem of drops i think testosterone booster needed or maybe it because of heat inside of bladder or liver what you say about it?

and I think Sustanon 250 is best for me But as you know Deca gives best gain the size which is not matchable and i need you to talk to me in detail as i have shared my diet plan and stuff which i am on these days.


Sustanon 250 Cycle dosage and stack with dbol and ??

Make me a Cycle which i should run in january..
 
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12 week steroid cycle

week 1-12 Sustanon 250 500mgs/week
week 1-4 dianabol 10mgs/ED
week 1-12 Arimidex 1mgs/ED EOD (ag-guys)
week 5-12 Arimidex 0.5mgs/ED EOD (ag-guys)
N2Guard - 2 caps AM/2 post workout/3 PM

Post cycle therapy - full 5 weeks

week 1-2
kick start (2 weeks): HCGenerate ES - 2 caps AM/1 post workout/1 PM
week 1-5--following:
Clomid 50/50/25/25
Nolvadex - 40/20/20/20/10
Aromasin week 1-2: 12.5mgs EOD, week 3-4: 7.5mgs EOD
Ostarine - 25/25/25/25/25
N2Guard - 2 caps AM/2 post workout/3 PM
 
1st cylce. i would roll with a test long ester cycle. you will grow like a weed off it with proper training and nutrition.You want to push the envelope, the cycle wofie laid out is a great mass builder.
 
You are seriously only 99 lbs? Most kids in junior high weight more than you. you need nothing but food and heavy weights to grow right now. Pack on the calories and lift heavy and will grow super easy. You are so far below a normal weight for your age/height that if you just smell food and weights you should gain weight. Don't use anything but food and training right now bro.
 
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Bro i am glad that you have made me Cycle. My question is that Why i cannot use Deca in my Cycle or its not good in my Stage. you are the Experienced person i have ever talked about cycles. I know Sustanon 250 can be used in the earlier stages at 250 to 500 mgs but how am i supposed to inject 250mgs twice while it have clearly mentioned that sustanon must be injected once a week. As you know i am beginner so i am little curios about my body condition can i handle that much dose??

My Bicep is 11.7 Inch and My Target is 17 Inch
Chest is 34 Inch


Sustanon 250 may be combined with Equipose, Primobolan, Deca Durabolin, Nolvadex or with other steroids. For example, if you want to administrate Sustanon 250 and Nolvadex during a cycle, follow the indications which are written below:
- the dose of Sustanon 250 has to be 250 mg per one injection;
- Sustanon 250 should be administrated once per week (5 days should separate each injection)
- Sustanon 250 shouldn’t be administrated more than 6 weeks;
- since the 2nd week of the cycle use Nolvadex;
- the measure of Nolvadex is 10 mg per day;
- Nolvadex has to be taken every day;
- administration of Nolvadex should be discontinued 4 weeks after last injection of Sustanon 250;
- a PCT should be applied after this cycle.



I want to share one more thing with you guys that whenever i eat eggs and Supplements my stomach ache,Gas and bloating like i am Allergic to eggs and Supplements i had used Gnc's Mega marp after that My body always treat me like that. Now i am planing to Use Muscle Tech Isolate In October i will give it a try i could handle it or not and I will keep posting about my condition


One Important question which i wanted to ask is That 12 weeks cycle is best for me or should i run Smaller cycle. AS i have shared my Target with you guys i like to gain good Size. i am little confused about 12 weeks cycle because as the Sustnon 250 idicates that it shouldn't be used more than 6 weeks

So Guys here what i want you to look at my Body's condition and then suggest me.


Thanks Wolf pack and everyone.
 
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mage123 said:
Bro i am glad that you have made me Cycle. My question is that Why i cannot at Deca in my Cycle or its not good in my Stage. you are the Experienced person i have ever talked about cycles. I know Sustanon 250 can be used in the earlier stages at 250 to 500 mgs but how am i supposed to inject 250mgs twice while it have clearly mentioned that sustanon must be injected once a week. As you know i am beginner so i am little curios about my body condition can i handle that much dose??

My Bicep is 11.7 Inch and My Target is 17 Inch
Chest is 34 Inch
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The simple answer is that you're 24 year old, you're going to get GREAT results from almost any cycle, so there is no need to pack your system with a ton of steroids. Moderation is key.

You can inject sust 2x/week or once/week, the esters are so long that it won't make a huge difference, but I have had clients report mildly better gains from 2x/week injections - anecdotal but fairly feasible with TP 2x/w injections.
 
RickRock said:
You are seriously only 99 lbs? Most kids in junior high weight more than you. you need nothing but food and heavy weights to grow right now. Pack on the calories and lift heavy and will grow super easy. You are so far below a normal weight for your age/height that if you just smell food and weights you should gain weight. Don't use anything but food and training right now bro.
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Bro You are right about that i am not using them right now i have a plan to use it on January so its been a little time that i am reading forums and You know one of friend has used the Test e with Deca but after his last inject he lost his gain its because he had a water mass nothing else so i have shared my cycle along with diet because i do not want to loose my gain. I am trying to change my Life style and i am trying to eat more and Fat containing diet you can have a look at my Diet Plan. I know diet and Training is the real deal here :) But i am little worried about side effects of anabolics and i have been facing stomach ache,gas or i think bloating problem ( if i eat Egg and stuff which is warm in nature) and sometimes sperm drops that's why seeking help here.
 
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Well you are smart to WAIT and educate yourself more before even touching AAS, not a good idea IMO. You need to eat, train, eat, eat, eat, eat, eat, eat, sleep...repeat!!! The most anabolic substance you can ingest is what??? FOOD!!! Wholesome, healthy, nutritious food my friend...build that base naturally, and leave the test and deca for later on in life...much later than January!!!
 
Guys i was little busy i am back

I need to ask you what precaution should i have to take during this cycle.... And what about the side effects of each anabolic and as you said i am 24 year old i can handle sutanon 250's dose twice.....
 
MuscleAddiction said:
Well you are smart to WAIT and educate yourself more before even touching AAS, not a good idea IMO. You need to eat, train, eat, eat, eat, eat, eat, eat, sleep...repeat!!! The most anabolic substance you can ingest is what??? FOOD!!! Wholesome, healthy, nutritious food my friend...build that base naturally, and leave the test and deca for later on in life...much later than January!!!
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Bro you are right about that i eat alot but i didnt get any difference in my weight its because of Stomach bloating i thing....
 
mage123 said:
Bro you are right about that i eat alot but i didnt get any difference in my weight its because of Stomach bloating i thing....
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Try digestive enzymes and probiotics, taken when eating a meal helps with digestion and minimizes bloating. Also good rule of thumb to drink 12-20 oz of water with meals, helps digestion too. If you have a problem with acid reflux or just acid indigestion take 2 tablespoons of Apple Cider Vinegar every morning, works wonders!!! AAS will not help your bloating problem bro!!!
 
MuscleAddiction said:
Try digestive enzymes and probiotics, taken when eating a meal helps with digestion and minimizes bloating. Also good rule of thumb to drink 12-20 oz of water with meals, helps digestion too. If you have a problem with acid reflux or just acid indigestion take 2 tablespoons of Apple Cider Vinegar every morning, works wonders!!! AAS will not help your bloating problem bro!!!
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Probiotics in Medicine table or it has to be food ? i am going to Share my Blood test report its here it includes urine,HIGH,LFT and more check please

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Now i will let you know about my other test results soon.....
 
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wolfpackalpha said:
Use probiotic supplements, it's much easier. Your test is confusing, the 1st figure is 14 or 1.4?
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Its 1.4 and kindly suggest me probiotic Supplements i was going to buy Serious Mass but now you tell me what to buy and my friend here are my all other test reports except Stool test it will be done soon... have a lookscan0002.webpscan0004.webpscan0005.webpscan0006.webp


I want you read Reports Carefully

Even my Psychiatrist report and i was on antipsychotic medication because of depression

Thanks
 
What report are you talking about? I only see some simple blood work and some negatives for a few things you don't likely have.

You are on anti-psychotic medication, you mean anti-depressants ?
 
wolfpackalpha said:
What report are you talking about? I only see some simple blood work and some negatives for a few things you don't likely have.

You are on anti-psychotic medication, you mean anti-depressants ?
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Have a look i have attached every test report now 3 days befor i have been to Psychiatrist i told him i cannot control rage and my memory is very weak he said everything is ok just you need to use this medicine for a while Motival and Haydragine drops for 2 months ....



I have others question related to this Cycle how will be my Sex drive or there would be needing of RS Transaderm?

One more thing what about the Sides effect of Sustanon 250 at 500mg dose ( heart,kidney,mood switch,low sperm count ) everything will be ok after PCT?



I am eating the green diet and some fat gaining which makes my stomach calm not bloat it so i need to know the name of probiotic best supplement quote me asap
 
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I have availability of GNC,BSN, Force factor Supplements list is given below

In probiotic only one = Probiotic Complex 4

In Weight gainer Powder Supplement = Amplified mass XXX and Serious Mass

Testosterone booster = force factor Test x180 , Nugenix,


Others : Nitrix , NO2, Amino fuel liquid anabolic
 
Listen, I can't read some of your had written report. What was the issue with your psychological state vs. your test levels? I don't see how it relates.
 
I had a depression problem my mind was out of control and i had suicidal thoughts and my mind was stuck in some particual thought it feels like i had done very bad thing in my life and my stomach wasnot digesting any thing. It was happened because i had used the MEGA Marp and i had no sense that time i was 19 years old and we have no guide here in my country no one teach here for anything ..... so i had used antiphsy from 2 years now i am going to used motival and haydragine for 2 months then i will be free from medicines and my weight never increase while i am eating ota meal and pushing very hard in GYM eating pizza , chicken, coca cola, cheese and vegetables and many more can you suggest me nutrition??
 
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I had a depression problem my mind was out of control and i had suicidal thoughts and my mind was stuck in some particual thought it feels like i had done very bad thing in my life and my stomach wasnot digesting any thing. It was happened because i had used the MEGA Marp and i had no sense that time i was 19 years old and we have no guide here in my country no one teach here for anything ..... so i had used antiphsy from 2 years now i am going to used motival and haydragine for 2 months then i will be free from medicines and my weight never increase while i am eating ota meal and pushing very hard in GYM eating pizza , chicken, coca cola, cheese and vegetables and many more can you suggest me nutrition??
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If I understand you correctly, you are eating pizza and coca cola daily? correct?

What is your goal , where do you want to be? You're light now but maybe a cleaner bulker is smarter for you.

note, if you are or were depressed, and are taking some medication for it - maybe steroids aren't the best idea for you. You might want to reconsider.
 
i am getting you point my friend but everything needs a soild base of bulk my body is lean i am pushing hard in Gym i am lifting as much weight as i can handle i am eating well here is list
bread with tomato, ota meal, baked potatoes,Fish,Chicken cheese burger, Coca cola, pizza, Fruits and vegetable salad mixed, Fresh juice twice a day, banana Milk Shake after Finishing Exercise, In dinner rice with fish or chicken which has Fresh tomato, after last meal i eat chocolate ice cream, i drink around 3.5 or 4 liter water daily......

in the mentioned diet i switch between fish and chicken..... Now i am looking for nutrition who can guide me in a much better way and listen i was having stomach bloating 1 week back and i was eating Boiled vegetables (beans,peas,fresh tomato and more)

My Goal is 65 KG weight with large Quality size of muscles in Detail Like ( lazarangelov,Sergi Constance) My Inspiration ( Arnold, Franco)

Now you tell me Which supplement should i buy or 1st i should go to the nutrition to whom i am looking for :D

and what do i need to do for Bulking Base with defination?

And bro Side effect comes when you take overdose am i right ?

Bro Are you PRO Bodybuilder or Coach or Nutritionist??

The Cycle which i am planing for seems like the only solution for my goal what you say...

note :Plz answer my all question which i had in last messages also thanks
 
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You have a lot of questions, but I would like to start off by saying that I don't think you need steroids my friend. You can easily do without them. Tell me, your "bulking diet" how long have you been on it? that's not clear. Also, can you do something like evolutionary (low carb/refeeds) ?
 
Ok Friend i am going to share my pic with you and tell me do i really need steroids or not .............. What do you mean by refeeds and i have shared my diet above ...... You tell me Serios mass is ok for me? i have been on this diet 2 to 3 months
 
Seriously. Im 26 and have been researching steroid information since I was 19, bulked to 260 naturally and am only now thinking of doing my first cycle. It looks to me that you have some issues you need to work on and your thinking that steroids will solve the problem. If anything they will worsen those issues. Dont take this as an attack because if I was trying to be mean I wouldnt be offering this advice. Steriods should only be added on to an already complete package.
 
My friend I am 24 and My muscles are becoming strong day by day i can tell you i have done total exercise for a year because i was Training last year also now i am doing training again and i am eating well and going to use a supplement Serious Mass and i need help with probiotics and how to use them ....... Friend i am planing for Steroids after the result of Serious mass + My Diet + heavy training + water lets see what i can get until December and if you are saying Steroids are n't good for me i wouldn't jump on them until i am sure that i am capable of them or not ............... One of my Friend did train for 15 days and he started injecting Steroids on the 16th day he was rookie just like i am right now and what he had bulked he loose it because of his diet wasn't good enough and no PCT you know.... Let me tell you about my Another friend he was just like me and He was eating well and his body was muscular he wasn't getting any bulking weight so he also jumped on Sustanon 250 for his Bulk Base ..... Now he is on 16 inch of Bicep Muscle.....
 
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Sorry I think your not understanding what im trying to say. The english is pretty bad. Ill try to make it simple. The fact thst your friend needed steroids to grow 16 inch biceps is not good. You need more training maturity before using steroids. You should reach your natural genetic potential and then use yhe steroids to go beyond that. If you start to early you might never reach your full potential. Everything should be perfectly dialed in first.
 
I agree with Iron and wolf pack. You definitely shouldn't take steroids bro. You are young enough that you can pack on weight by eating right and training hard. As far as mental health is concerned you should hold off because your history tells me you are chemically imbalanced and when you go into PCT after taking steroids it could amplify those negative thoughts and emotions you have had in the past and cause serious depression. I would say as soon as you can win the battle in your mind without prescriptions then you are ready for AAS. I think these hormones will jack you up more causing a serious tail spin.

Hopefully I haven't offended you because that wasn't the goal. I want you to stay safe. Going natural is awesome anyways :D
 
You need to have your head on straight before you think about cycling AAS...VERY IMPORTANT!!! Second you need to have a naturally strong foundation...otherwise it won't matter what you build...it won't be as strong as if you did!!! Third seems to me you need to slow down and breathe...research more and get rid of the garbage food in your diet!!!
 
Thanks guys i appreciate what you are doing for me...... Ok guys i am not going to use Steroids I will update you with my Diet and Supplement result lets see what will you suggest after that thanks again for everything...
And one more thing can we handle the side effects of steroids like serious depression....
 
Bravo. I applaud you. Be aggressive we ith yoir diet and training and let it spark a fire in your heart. Uou should post as many questions about your training anddiet as you can. I ppersonally will help as much as I can.
 
Depression and anxiety are controlled by your outlook and thought process. Test for me makes me feel great! Alpha Male type mentality... but I will still have my times of feeling down, it is how you handle it. If you let it control you then it will consume you...if you deal with it and things that are out of your control you let go then you will feel better about it. Therapists, talking, prayer, journal writing, exercise, eating healthy, having faith and believing, self esteem and worth...those are the cures for depression...not drugs! Although there are some with the chemical imbalance that may need to seek phychiatric evaluation but IMHO prescription meds are temporary and cognitive behavioral therapy is the answer to working through depression as well...life is a gift, it is precious, we are to live, laugh, and love brother...too short to be depressed in life!!!
 
^^^^^^ well said MA. You are right on I used to have anxiety when I was in my early 20's and used prescriptions for a bit... Then I really started to focus on mind control and personal growth and dropped those prescriptions. Dedicate your life to growth. Not just physically, but mentally and spiritually.
 
Alright friends Well it was a time when i was in depression but i am better now and i am trying my best to achieve a natural size but i think that time will come when i would be able to inject .... In how much weight i will be able to jump on My 1st cycle?

Here i want to know about Simple Deca and Sustanon 250 Cycle with Adex my friend is on it these days ...... He Has done 1 month Workout and now he is on this cycle .......... What will happen to him does he will loose all his gain and side effects ??

Tell me Is Serious Mass is ok for me or do i need a GNC Probiotic 4 As my stomatch bloat sometimes........
 
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I would re do your cycle, you sound pretty fresh at it. I would go with a Test Cyp or Test Ent ,you don't need all those esters. Test C/E has a 7-8 day half life, long ester. AND being your first cycle I would do 250mg Monday--250mg Thursday = 500per/week. 12-14 weeks. Your first cycles the best, you'll blow up in about 4 weeks. More is not always better ..... ( My 2 cents ) Good Luck Brother AnalogMan
 
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I would re do your cycle, you sound pretty fresh at it. I would go with a Test Cyp or Test Ent ,you don't need all those esters. Test C/E has a 7-8 day half life, long ester. AND being your first cycle I would do 250mg Monday--250mg Thursday = 500per/week. 12-14 weeks. Your first cycles the best, you'll blow up in about 4 weeks. More is not always better ..... ( My 2 cents ) Good Luck Brother AnalogMan
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My Friend are you saying that 500 mg of sustanon 250 along with Dbol will give me my Target,size,weight,fitness and Muscularity in just 4 weeks which means i do not need to run them longer than 6 weeks and i have read about AAS more longer running can get you in danger like serious side effects?? I have many friends who is stacking sustanon 250 along with deca which is giving them massive bulk and size in my last message i have shared his cycle..... What i am worried about here is that people are telling me that i am not ready and i know that i have planned for January but as people are saying that i cannot use AAS right now so right know i am focusing on Training , diet and supplement (buying soon) ......Hope so i will get what i want naturally ..... Thanks for your time :)
 
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Mage123 has some psychological issue, so I'm wondering if he actually needs to do a cycle at all - at this point.
 
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My Friend are you saying that 500 mg of sustanon 250 along with Dbol will give me my Target,size,weight,fitness and Muscularity in just 4 weeks which means i do not need to run them longer than 6 weeks and i have read about AAS more longer running can get you in danger like serious side effects?? I have many friends who is stacking sustanon 250 along with deca which is giving them massive bulk and size in my last message i have shared his cycle..... What i am worried about here is that people are telling me that i am not ready and i know that i have planned for January but as people are saying that i cannot use AAS right now so right know i am focusing on Training , diet and supplement (buying soon) ......Hope so i will get what i want naturally ..... Thanks for your time :)
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Good Choice.... I've been BB 30 years and have trained 1000's of ppl. And it is very hard tell any young person what or how to do anything. Not that I have the right to. Your so called "friends" saying Sustanon / Deca/ Dbol Etc. Use your own head, you'll figure it out. You can't do it overnight ,it takes years... Good Luck Brother....AnalogMan
 
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Mage, let me ask you this, you want to get to your goals, but are you willing to do it naturally?
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Friend i would love to do it naturally But i personaly think so that i cannot achieve the physic which i want the pure lean muscles with 17 inch of biceps and triceps size and the chest shape and size ..... Everybody knows that there is always need a cycle..... Ok tell me what you say about this if i get big naturally then there will be need of Primobolan , test and tren enan for lean/ripped Cycle and i do not know about what to eat in lean muscle cycle and Right now i am lean and in shape i want to enhance my muscle in lean Just imagine i am 101.413 lbs i have gain 1 kg and now my Biceps is 12 inch while i eat alot train hard i am on natural diet and trying to push the limits but now it feels to me that i need some vitamin to push the limits... So i am going to take Z vitamin from tomorrow its name is Polybion Z capsule and i need Weight gainer so i am asking to you which weight gainer should i get as i mentioned before please suggest ...... One more Question What if i say i have to achieve my half goal till February then what you guys say to me??
 
Guy i wana know What diet should be used During TRT/HRT in PCT Cycle and how much Gain will be loose during PCT and after
 
You got all the advice you need on page 1.

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... you need nothing but food and heavy weights to grow right now. Pack on the calories and lift heavy and will grow super easy. You are so far below a normal weight for your age/height that if you just smell food and weights you should gain weight. Don't use anything but food and training right now bro.
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HELLO

I Have good news that i am on good and hard training its been 2 months now that i am doing my training hard ...... I was on 44 kg of weight now i am on 48 to 49 kg i think i will achieve my goal naturally in more 5 months

MY Current position:
and My Bicep was 11.7 Inch and now its 12.5 inch as you know My Target is 17 Inch
Chest was on 34 Inch and its almost 36 now


My plan is to jump on supplement now (TRUE MASS or Serious MAss) :) and Guess what i am taking egg whites intake these days it seems to me better now Should i add Full fat cheese in my diet what you say guys??


WOLFpack

Man as you know i am educating myself so i will ask some questions to you about PCT.... Its Just for my Knowledge ....


THANKS
 
Guys my 1st question is how is the injection of IVF-C HCG 5000 i.u /amp for PCT ??


my Other question is about my test here was the report values which you wouldn't understand man

Bilirubin mg/dl 1.4 High
SGOT U/I 35 Normal
SGPT U/I 29 Normal
Akaline Phosphatse U/I 250 normal ( During Diana/Dana bol Ds blue heart this value increase because of the nature of Alpha Akalyine 17 class 2 oral steroid Methylated compounds Am i right guys ? )


Urea mg/dl 34 Normal
Creatinine mg/dl 0.90 Normal

H. Pylari Negative



What value would be normal during Dbol cycle friends?
 
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mage123 said:
Guys my 1st question is how is the injection of IVF-C HCG 5000 i.u /amp for PCT ??


my Other question is about my test here was the report values which you wouldn't understand man

Bilirubin mg/dl 1.4 High
SGOT U/I 35 Normal
SGPT U/I 29 Normal
Akaline Phosphatse U/I 250 normal ( During Diana/Dana bol Ds blue heart this value increase because of the nature of Alpha Akalyine 17 class 2 oral steroid Methylated compounds Am i right guys ? )


Urea mg/dl 34 Normal
Creatinine mg/dl 0.90 Normal

H. Pylari Negative



What value would be normal during Dbol cycle friends?
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What value for what part? your creatine is fine. You taking liver protection supplements like N2Guard?
 
mage123 said:
HELLO

I Have good news that i am on good and hard training its been 2 months now that i am doing my training hard ...... I was on 44 kg of weight now i am on 48 to 49 kg i think i will achieve my goal naturally in more 5 months

MY Current position:
and My Bicep was 11.7 Inch and now its 12.5 inch as you know My Target is 17 Inch
Chest was on 34 Inch and its almost 36 now


My plan is to jump on supplement now (TRUE MASS or Serious MAss) :) and Guess what i am taking egg whites intake these days it seems to me better now Should i add Full fat cheese in my diet what you say guys??


WOLFpack

Man as you know i am educating myself so i will ask some questions to you about PCT.... Its Just for my Knowledge ....


THANKS
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Full fat cheese: I'm guessing you mean over 6% cheese. At your light weight, you should keep eating, cheese or not.

What do you need to know about PCT?
 
That's like 1/10th of a lab report. All you look like your interested is "Liver" values....You just want that Dbol so bad...........AnalogMan
mage123 said:
Guys my 1st question is how is the injection of IVF-C HCG 5000 i.u /amp for PCT ??


my Other question is about my test here was the report values which you wouldn't understand man

Bilirubin mg/dl 1.4 High
SGOT U/I 35 Normal
SGPT U/I 29 Normal
Akaline Phosphatse U/I 250 normal ( During Diana/Dana bol Ds blue heart this value increase because of the nature of Alpha Akalyine 17 class 2 oral steroid Methylated compounds Am i right guys ? )


Urea mg/dl 34 Normal
Creatinine mg/dl 0.90 Normal

H. Pylari Negative



What value would be normal during Dbol cycle friends?
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HELLO

Friend i was busy in Job so..... i am here to talk to you about the stuff actually my trainer told me that i should run Danabol Ds daily 1 tablet during 2nd meal and mix Deca Durabolin with Sustanon 250 for injecting and take Muscle tech cell tech supplement But i told my trainer i am not going to take any steroids yet i am gaining naturally with the help of supplements until my weight goes to 60 kg my friends(you guys) told me that i cannot run any cycle right now so as you now i am doing studies on all the AAS so i was asking for my knowledge that what value of LFT test would be normal for liver test right now its on 250 how much increase there will be on Dbol cycle ........ i am not on Any AAS weather it is oral (class 2 methylated or oil based(class 1 Esters)..... I will follow you as you will guide me...

My other question is that are these supplements contain any percentage of steroids in it?? Like True mass and serious mass or any other supplement .......

I have bought 3 books which are basic and history of steroids here are the names
1. Steroid Handbook 2004 Edition By Hardcore
2. Laymans Guide to Anabolic By Mick Hart
3. Adonis Golden Ratio System


Here Question About PCT

1. PCT can be started After 2 week of last inject of Sustanon 250 or just finishing on sustanon cycle
2. Do a person need to just pump his muscles during TRT/PCT i mean cannot lift heavy weight
3. Can a person eat the same bulking diet what he is eating everyday
4. How is the IVFC HCG 5000 iu Injection with clomid, nolvadex,Aromasin and ostarine
5. Do a person Need any RS Transaderm/Phytoserms-347 cycle for sexual enhancement or if don't do any Phytoserms-347 cycle sexual drive will works normal just like it does right now?


Here its hard to find HCgenerate Es and N2Guard so i think i will import the stuff


Can you explain the PCT in detail like
week 1-5
Clomid 50/50/25/25

does that pattern will go like this on week one (mondey to friday) take 10 mg of clomid then week 2 same and week 3 mondey to friday 5 mg Right ?

Aromasin 1-2 week 12.5 mgs take on mondey then take on wednesday .....
 
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My other question is that are these supplements contain any percentage of steroids in it?? Like True mass and serious mass or any other supplement .......
--Dietary supplements shouldn't contain steroids - the closest you'll get is with prohormones.

I have bought 3 books which are basic and history of steroids here are the names
1. Steroid Handbook 2004 Edition By Hardcore
2. Laymans Guide to Anabolic By Mick Hart
3. Adonis Golden Ratio System
--You should get the Anabolic Factor, here: http://www.isteroids.com/steroidbooks.html


1. PCT can be started After 2 week of last inject of Sustanon 250 or just finishing on sustanon cycle
---If you're doing sustanon you can wait about 14 days before starting PCT due to it's long half life.

2. Do a person need to just pump his muscles during TRT/PCT i mean cannot lift heavy weight
---You can lift heavy, in fact you SHOULD lift heavy if you want to get big.

3. Can a person eat the same bulking diet what he is eating everyday
---Yes, you can eat the same thing every day.

4. How is the IVFC HCG 5000 iu Injection with clomid, nolvadex,Aromasin and ostarine
---Don't use HCG, get HCGenerate.

5. Do a person Need any RS Transaderm/Phytoserms-347 cycle for sexual enhancement or if don't do any Phytoserms-347 cycle sexual drive will works normal just like it does right now?
---You don't need either of those, use HCGenerate ES if you want a boost.


Here its hard to find HCgenerate Es and N2Guard so i think i will import the stuff
---You can import it from N2BM.com


Can you explain the PCT in detail like
--HERE IS A PCT:
PCT: 5 weeks
week 1-2
kick start (2 weeks): HCGenerate ES - 2 caps AM/1 post workout/1 PM
week 1-5--following:
Clomid 50/50/25/25
Nolvadex - 40/20/20/20/10
Aromasin week 1-2: 12.5mgs EOD, week 3-4: 7.5mgs EOD
Ostarine - 25/25/25/25/25
N2Guard - 2 caps AM/2 post workout/3 PM
 
Bro i have a question about these Injection which would be better because here is an availability of Irani & Pakistani Sustanon 250, Deca .... Do a person need to import its hard to import the stuff so what would you suggest which injection company would give its result....

If some how HCgenerate es didn't reach to a person then IVFC HCG injection is an alternative right???
 
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Hello friend

I know you are experienced person here and i am little self conscious as i have finished the 1st book what i got from it. it says that beginners 1st Cycle should be atleast of 8 weeks and as you are starting on these Drugs for mass bulk you need to follow this chart


8 Week
Beginner
Mass
Mon. Tues. Wed. Thurs. Fri. Sat. Sun.

1 100mg/Deca/20mg/Dbol 20mg/Dbol 20mg/Dbol 20mg/Dbol 20mg/Dbol 20mg/Dbol 20mg/Dbol
2 100mg/Deca
20mg/dbol 20mg/Dbol 20mg/Dbol 20mg/Dbol 20mg/Dbol 20mg/Dbol 20mg/Dbol
3 200mg/Deca
25mg/dbol 25mg/Dbol 25mg/Dbol 25mg/Dbol 25mg/Dbol 25mg/Dbol 25mg/Dbol
4 300mg/Deca
25mg/dbol 25mg/Dbol 25mg/Dbol 25mg/Dbol 25mg/Dbol 25mg/Dbol 25mg/Dbol
5 200mg/Deca
20mg/Dbol 20mg/Dbol 20mg/Dbol 20mg/Dbol 20mg/Dbol 20mg/Dbol 20mg/Dbol
6 100mg/Deca
15mg/Dbol 15mg/Dbol 15mg/Dbol 15mg/Dbol 15mg/Dbol 15mg/Dbol 15mg/Dbol

7 100mg/Deca 5000iu/HCG

8 100mg/Deca 5000iu/HCG



Total :
Dianabol (Methandrostenolone)
• 700mg
Deca Durabolin (Nandrolone Decanoate)
• 1200mg
Human Corionic Gonadotropin (HCG)
• 10,000 I.U.


I just wanted to share this to ask you What will happen if i will use this cycle i have a body type of Ectomorph and its going to be Mesomorph sooner or later Friend I am just sharing all the stuff for my Knowledge as you know i would not take any step without you guy's permission and knowledge ... i am sure the Cycle which WolfPack made me is the best one for me.

I have read about syringe must be the size of 1.5" and All injectable steroids are to be injected intramuscularly which mean there would be needing a professional doctor who would inject intramuscularly right?

And i have asked you about the injection how is the Irani and Paksitani(made in Iran and pakistan) Sustanon or Deca and which one would be better for me if there is important then please guide for its company and where to buy...

Is this Cycle would enough for whole life or there would be needing of another cycles in future and if a person need to do another cycle with pct then how much time it needs to start another cycle?

During Cycles Do a person needs to check LFT test after each 2 weeks?

Please Tell me whats wrong with IVFC HCG and Why is HCGenerate ES is better if it didnt reach to a person then can he use HCG?

These are new question Until my 1st book studies and researched work Thanks for you time....
 
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Hello friend

I know you are experienced person here and i am little self conscious as i have finished the 1st book what i got from it. it says that beginners 1st Cycle should be atleast of 8 weeks and as you are starting on these Drugs for mass bulk you need to follow this chart


8 Week
Beginner
Mass
Mon. Tues. Wed. Thurs. Fri. Sat. Sun.

1 100mg/Deca/20mg/Dbol 20mg/Dbol 20mg/Dbol 20mg/Dbol 20mg/Dbol 20mg/Dbol 20mg/Dbol
2 100mg/Deca
20mg/dbol 20mg/Dbol 20mg/Dbol 20mg/Dbol 20mg/Dbol 20mg/Dbol 20mg/Dbol
3 200mg/Deca
25mg/dbol 25mg/Dbol 25mg/Dbol 25mg/Dbol 25mg/Dbol 25mg/Dbol 25mg/Dbol
4 300mg/Deca
25mg/dbol 25mg/Dbol 25mg/Dbol 25mg/Dbol 25mg/Dbol 25mg/Dbol 25mg/Dbol
5 200mg/Deca
20mg/Dbol 20mg/Dbol 20mg/Dbol 20mg/Dbol 20mg/Dbol 20mg/Dbol 20mg/Dbol
6 100mg/Deca
15mg/Dbol 15mg/Dbol 15mg/Dbol 15mg/Dbol 15mg/Dbol 15mg/Dbol 15mg/Dbol

7 100mg/Deca 5000iu/HCG

8 100mg/Deca 5000iu/HCG



Total :
Dianabol (Methandrostenolone)
• 700mg
Deca Durabolin (Nandrolone Decanoate)
• 1200mg
Human Corionic Gonadotropin (HCG)
• 10,000 I.U.


I just wanted to share this to ask you What will happen if i will use this cycle i have a body type of Ectomorph and its going to be Mesomorph sooner or later Friend I am just sharing all the stuff for my Knowledge as you know i would not take any step without you guy's permission and knowledge ... i am sure the Cycle which WolfPack made me is the best one for me.

I have read about syringe must be the size of 1.5" and All injectable steroids are to be injected intramuscularly which mean there would be needing a professional doctor who would inject intramuscularly right?

And i have asked you about the injection how is the Irani and Paksitani(made in Iran and pakistan) Sustanon or Deca and which one would be better for me if there is important then please guide for its company and where to buy...

Is this Cycle would enough for whole life or there would be needing of another cycles in future and if a person need to do another cycle with pct then how much time it needs to start another cycle?

During Cycles Do a person needs to check LFT test after each 2 weeks?

Please Tell me whats wrong with IVFC HCG and Why is HCGenerate ES is better if it didnt reach to a person then can he use HCG?

These are new question Until my 1st book studies and researched work Thanks for you time....
 
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