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[CanadianTiny]

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[CC_MacK]

I can tell you right now at the 8 week mark of test and primo, they are not fake at all.

 

[CanadianTiny]

I can tell you right now at the 8 week mark of test and primo, they are not fake at all.

Product — compare visual indicators like shape, size, taste or colour; spelling or grammatical errors on the packaging or instructions; out-of-date or missing expiry date.

 

[CC_MacK]

Product — compare visual indicators like shape, size, taste or colour; spelling or grammatical errors on the packaging or instructions; out-of-date or missing expiry date.

Well shit. No expiry date, I guess I should forget about the results I’m seeing, stop mid cycle and throw it all out. Thanks tiny!

 

[CanadianTiny]

Well shit. No expiry date, I guess I should forget about the results I’m seeing, stop mid cycle and throw it all out. Thanks tiny!

Do what you gotta do buttercup

 

[CanadianTiny]

Well shit. No expiry date, I guess I should forget about the results I’m seeing, stop mid cycle and throw it all out. Thanks tiny!

Post results let's see

 

[LouOden]

Hello,

I'll post results again.. These results and when I made my account and all my updates can be seen through my log

Purchase:
Test enanthate x 3
Deca x 1

We are all family here and while sure sometimes family argue but we need to lift each other up in times of uncertainty.

 

[Mr.Pump87]

Finally i got my prescription for my BloodWork. The test was conducted this morning so i should have the result tomorrow. Ive been using Test Cyp at 150mg per week for about 6 weeks and 150mg primo for 2 weeks. Ill post the result here.

 

[LouOden]

Finally i got my prescription for my BloodWork. The test was conducted this morning so i should have the result tomorrow. Ive been using Test Cyp at 150mg per week for about 6 weeks and 150mg primo for 2 weeks. Ill post the result here.

Nice, will be interesting to see your results as I have full confidence in Pur Canada.

Here's a link for Canadians to get bloodwork, directed at use of PEDs..
Yea this is if your doctor won't or you don't want them to know.

https://teletest.ca/

 

[Mr.Pump87]

Here's a link for Canadians to get bloodwork, directed at use of PEDs

Unfortunately, TeleTest is only available in Ontario . I used some random internet Doctor in my province to get my prescription. I asked for several bio markers. Free test, total test, estradiol, ldl/hdl, creatinine (organ fonction), electrolyte, CBC, hetatocrit.

 

[LouOden]

Unfortunately, TeleTest is only available in Ontario . I used some random internet Doctor in my province to get my prescription. I asked for several bio markers. Free test, total test, estradiol, ldl/hdl, creatinine (organ fonction), electrolyte, CBC, hetatocrit.

Awesome, which did you use as it could help one of our other Canadians on this fourm.
@pur-pharma-canada likes seeing bloodworl done.

 

[Mr.Pump87]

Awesome, which did you use as it could help one of our other Canadians on this fourm.

I used https://www.getmaple.ca/ Cost was about 200$. Was done in 30 minutes from the moment I took appointement and made payment. Done with Phone call / Internet Chat.

 

[Mr.Pump87]

Bloodwork results.

Before starting the Test Cyp 150mg per week (6 weeks ago) and Primo 150mg per week (2 weeks ago) my Testosterone level was a 524ng/dL.

Here the result I got: 1499ng/dL. I didn't expected to be that high with only 150mg of Test Cyp per Week.

According to the research I did, Primo isn't suppose to interfere with testosterone hormone readings in bloods. It will only lower serum E2. My concern is my Estradiol came little high at 301 pmol/L. I thought I would had stay In Range running Primo at 150mg per week with the Test Cyp.

I have very little experience with PED, but I suspect that the Primo isn't the real thing perhaps?

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[Mr.Pump87]

Bloodwork results.

Before starting the Test Cyp 150mg per week (6 weeks ago) and Primo 150mg per week (2 weeks ago) my Testosterone level was a 524ng/dL.

Here the result I got: 1499ng/dL. I didn't expected to be that high with only 150mg of Test Cyp per Week.

My concern is my Estradiol came little high at 301 pmol/L. I thought I would had stay In Range running Primo at 150mg per week with the Test Cyp.

I had very little experience with PED, but I suspect that the Primo isn't the real thing perhaps or maybe its the real thing and I should raise the Primo to 200mg per week, or just lower the Test Cyp to 100mg and keep Primo at 150mg.

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[pur-pharma-canada]

He needs estrogen blocker for 1 and his test was in good range when started ...primo is real
Primo is not a estrogen blocker
Use a bit of nolavadex .
Or lower trt a bit
Ask doc
Theses are both good and accurate levels
Your reading is 3 x higher

 

[Mr.Pump87]

He needs estrogen blocker for 1 and his test was in good range when started ...primo is real
Primo is not a estrogen blocker
Use a bit of nolavadex .
Or lower trt a bit
Ask doc
Theses are both good and accurate levels
Your reading is 3 x higher

Thanks for input. I read that Primo could crash Estradiol in some people when running at 1:1 ratio wth test. Sorry didn’t wanted to call Primo Fake, I just read that it’s very often fake from underground labs. Will order some Nolvadex to lower my E2 a bit. Also it’s a self-prescribed TRT+ / Low dose cycle that I’m aiming to run.

I would like to add that I haven’t felt any side effect since I started using the gear, also not 1painful injection yet. Thanks a lot.

 

[pur-pharma-canada]

Thanks for input. I read that Primo could crash Estradiol in some people when running at 1:1 ratio wth test. Sorry didn’t wanted to call Primo Fake, I just read that it’s very often fake from underground labs. Will order some Nolvadex to lower my E2 a bit. Also it’s a self-prescribed TRT+ / Low dose cycle that I’m aiming to run.

I would like to add that I haven’t felt any side effect since I started using

Thanks for input. I read that Primo could crash Estradiol in some people when running at 1:1 ratio wth test. Sorry didn’t wanted to call Primo Fake, I just read that it’s very often fake from underground labs. Will order some Nolvadex to lower my E2 a bit. Also it’s a self-prescribed TRT+ / Low dose cycle that I’m aiming to run.

I would like to add that I haven’t felt any side effect since I started using the gear, also not 1painful injection yet. Thanks a lot

 

[pur-pharma-canada]

Thanks for input. I read that Primo could crash Estradiol in some people when running at 1:1 ratio wth test. Sorry didn’t wanted to call Primo Fake, I just read that it’s very often fake from underground labs. Will order some Nolvadex to lower my E2 a bit. Also it’s a self-prescribed TRT+ / Low dose cycle that I’m aiming to run.

I would like to add that I haven’t felt any side effect since I started using the gear, also not 1painful injection yet. Thanks a lot.

It's great gear
All in time all of Evo is gonna just know !!!!

 

[pur-pharma-canada]

Does Primobolan Lower Estrogen?
Based on the available information from the provided articles, there is limited direct evidence about Primobolan's effects on estrogen levels. However, we can draw some relevant insights:

Primobolan (methenolone enanthate) is an anabolic steroid
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The study on Primobolan did not specifically measure estrogen levels, but focused on its effects on lipid metabolism in menopausal women with breast cancer
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Generally, anabolic steroids can affect the body's hormonal balance, including estrogen levels
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Some anabolic steroids can be converted to estrogen through a process called aromatization, but the extent varies among different compounds
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Unlike some other steroids, Primobolan is not known to strongly aromatize into estrogen
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While there's no direct evidence provided that Primobolan lowers estrogen, its weak aromatization potential suggests it may not significantly increase estrogen levels. However, it's important to note that individual responses can vary, and more specific research on Primobolan's effects on estrogen levels would be needed for a definitive answer.

 

[CanadianTiny]

Bloodwork results.

Before starting the Test Cyp 150mg per week (6 weeks ago) and Primo 150mg per week (2 weeks ago) my Testosterone level was a 524ng/dL.

Here the result I got: 1499ng/dL. I didn't expected to be that high with only 150mg of Test Cyp per Week.

According to the research I did, Primo isn't suppose to interfere with testosterone hormone readings in bloods. It will only lower serum E2. My concern is my Estradiol came little high at 301 pmol/L. I thought I would had stay In Range running Primo at 150mg per week with the Test Cyp.

I have very little experience with PED, but I suspect that the Primo isn't the real thing perhaps?

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FAKE PRIMO ALARM I

 

[Eddie Haskell]

Bloodwork results.

Before starting the Test Cyp 150mg per week (6 weeks ago) and Primo 150mg per week (2 weeks ago) my Testosterone level was a 524ng/dL.

Here the result I got: 1499ng/dL. I didn't expected to be that high with only 150mg of Test Cyp per Week.

According to the research I did, Primo isn't suppose to interfere with testosterone hormone readings in bloods. It will only lower serum E2. My concern is my Estradiol came little high at 301 pmol/L. I thought I would had stay In Range running Primo at 150mg per week with the Test Cyp.

I have very little experience with PED, but I suspect that the Primo isn't the real thing perhaps?

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@Mr.Pump87 me and @AE1079 have had our big primo vs estrogen discussions for a while.

While it’s true, some members get lower e2 on primobolan, many have no impact. I’ve even seen e2 increases with bayer primo but rare. Seems to vary person to person.

Does your bloodwork mean your primo is fake? Anything is possible, but I doubt it, @pur-pharma-canada is a reliable supplier and has many guys backing him and using his gear, including @CanadianTiny who’s in this thread saying negative things. Truth is always in the middle as you know, example @CanadianTiny was loving @pur-pharma-canada until he stopped getting free gear. make your own conclusions.

 

[Eddie Haskell]

@Mr.Pump87 me and @AE1079 have had our big primo vs estrogen discussions for a while.

While it’s true, some members get lower e2 on primobolan, many have no impact. I’ve even seen e2 increases with bayer primo but rare. Seems to vary person to person.

Does your bloodwork mean your primo is fake? Anything is possible, but I doubt it, @pur-pharma-canada is a reliable supplier and has many guys backing him and using his gear, including @CanadianTiny who’s in this thread saying negative things. Truth is always in the middle as you know, example @CanadianTiny was loving @pur-pharma-canada until he stopped getting free gear. make your own conclusions.

You can review @CanadianTiny thoughts on @pur-pharma-canada here

https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...ecovery-process-cycle-log.101560/post-1625440

 

[Eddie Haskell]

You can review @CanadianTiny thoughts on @pur-pharma-canada here

https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...ecovery-process-cycle-log.101560/post-1625440

I’m quoting the post below:

Also going to add some primobolan to my cruise and recovery pct stack, had to get the ok to put it in there as a pur athlete (@pur-pharma-canada). Just a side note , not taking on the role of low level rep, as being a pur athlete is enough eggs in one , however can direct you to the right people, or just check out the main site : (elitebody.ca), these guys have rapid service, excellent communication and customer service, above and beyond and safety focused as well, gains are nice and clean, pharmaceutical grade gear and packaging, half the internet calls there gear pharma, but this is all 100% legit pharmaceutical grade products. Check them out and see for your self, no PIP, NO SWELLING, NO SKIN PROBLEMS, GREAT ABSORPTION, AMAZING RESULTS! I am currently 5"4, 190, I just competed at Nationals at 174.5, so putting the beef back on nicely, and staying lean at the same time. Placed in Nationals for the first time with a 5 week prep on pur and hard work. Was awesome to have clean skin and clean gear with no pain or swelling . Especially come stage time? Who needs dirty gear? At anytime really, so just letting you guys know that as a pur athlete, I am 100% happy with this "actual lab" and not someone's basement setup, do yourself a favour and get on the pur train so your body stays happy with you and gives you better results in top shape as well. Cheers. ( Elitebody.ca) @pur-pharma-canada . So my post recovery stack looks like this right now:
-300 deca per week
-250 test cyp
-arimidex as needed.

Switching it over to:
-continuing with deca
-changing test cyp to sust
-adding in primobolan.
-generally don't need an AI when you match Primo dose with test dose, but will have arimidex on hand regardless.
Will update you with photos and stack regiment exact numbers once I receive sust and Primo.

 

[CC_MacK]

Bloodwork results.

Before starting the Test Cyp 150mg per week (6 weeks ago) and Primo 150mg per week (2 weeks ago) my Testosterone level was a 524ng/dL.

Here the result I got: 1499ng/dL. I didn't expected to be that high with only 150mg of Test Cyp per Week.

My concern is my Estradiol came little high at 301 pmol/L. I thought I would had stay In Range running Primo at 150mg per week with the Test Cyp.

I had very little experience with PED, but I suspect that the Primo isn't the real thing perhaps or maybe its the real thing and I should raise the Primo to 200mg per week, or just lower the Test Cyp to 100mg and keep Primo at 150mg.

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Hey man, some people have the anti-estrogen effect from primo and others don’t. I know some guys that can run 250 mg of test a week and run primo to 800 mg a week and still need a small ai dose. I personally can’t run primo any higher than 1:1 with my test or my estrogen will come back low. You’re a lucky one haha. I wish I would blast it with low test but I can’t. I’m getting blood work done Thursday after 8 weeks of 500 test and 500 primo. I’ll post my results as well.

You need some arimidex or aromasin with your test dose. You respond really well to test it looks like. 1499 at 150 per week is high. I run trt of 120 a week and I stay around 700. If I were you I would start .25 arimidex twice a week or 6.25 Aromasin twice a week, the day after your injection and go from there. (Assuming you’re injecting twice a week) Don’t over due it, specially if you’re not having high E2 sides.

 

[pur-pharma-canada]

Yes but Primo is also a cutting agent so usually used for contest prep or to lean out and harden up ...it's still anabolic. and no need to use so much depending on body weight lean muscle mass index
Mods feel free to jump on this
He used primo 2 weeks only before his blood work and 6 weeks with 150 mg . I'm sure this wil stir a great thread and one far from fake Pur as that's old lol...l know there be lots of good advice on her from all the great guys on here here ..alot of ideas to discuss
My advice is Monitor with doc ..as ur new at this and see what is perfect for you

Pur pharma is fantastic gear
Looking forward to Goukie and really hope Mobster as a opinion as well.
Ps all blood work looked good
5 to 1 test estrodial ratio is ok for first do it your self trt

Enjoy you Pur pharma Cana
Elitebodyya

 

[CanadianTiny]

@Mr.Pump87 me and @AE1079 have had our big primo vs estrogen discussions for a while.

While it’s true, some members get lower e2 on primobolan, many have no impact. I’ve even seen e2 increases with bayer primo but rare. Seems to vary person to person.

Does your bloodwork mean your primo is fake? Anything is possible, but I doubt it, @pur-pharma-canada is a reliable supplier and has many guys backing him and using his gear, including @CanadianTiny who’s in this thread saying negative things. Truth is always in the middle as you know, example @CanadianTiny was loving @pur-pharma-canada until he stopped getting free gear. make your own conclusions.

I was playing around Eddie the asshole Haskell

 

[LouOden]

I think I respond well, I only use .50 2x per week (100) and i went from:
Test Cypionate
OCT - Free test 202
DEC - Free test 692

@pur-pharma-canada

 

[Eddie Haskell]

I was playing around Eddie the asshole Haskell

@CanadianTiny this is your last warning. If you insult a moderator again or violate TOS, you will get a suspension.

 

[CanadianTiny]

I think I respond well, I only use .50 2x per week (100) and i went from:
Test Cypionate
OCT - Free test 202
DEC - Free test 692

@pur-pharma-canada

He's talking about the primo dude

 

[LouOden]

He's talking about the primo dude

Thanks for your reply, actually in his OP first paragraph he talks about Test cyp 6 weeks , primo 2 week.. imo

"Before starting the Test Cyp 150mg per week (6 weeks ago) and Primo 150mg per week (2 weeks ago) my Testosterone level was a 524ng/dL."

 

[Mr.Pump87]

You need some arimidex or aromasin with your test dose. You respond really well to test it looks like. 1499 at 150 per week is high. I run trt of 120 a week and I stay around 700. If I were you I would start .25 arimidex twice a week or 6.25 Aromasin twice a week, the day after your injection and go from there. (Assuming you’re injecting twice a week) Don’t over due it, specially if you’re not having high E2 sides.

Yes I run 3x Injection per Week.

Monday: Test Cyp + Primo
Wed: Primo
Friday: Test Cyp + Primo

My Bloodwork was done Friday morning (Before I inject Test Cyp) So they were 4 days between Test Cyp injection and Bloodwork.

Do you know where I could find Arimidex at 0.25 or Aromasin in Canada?. Pur Pharma Canada, only provide 2mg Arimidex (Capsules can't spit) and don't have Aromasin at the moment.

 

[pur-pharma-canada]

Yes I run 3x Injection per Week.

Monday: Test Cyp + Primo
Wed: Primo
Friday: Test Cyp + Primo

My Bloodwork was done Friday morning (Before I inject Test Cyp) So they were 4 days between Test Cyp injection and Bloodwork.

Do you know where I could find Arimidex at 0.25 or Aromasin in Canada?. Pur Pharma Canada, only provide 2mg Arimidex (Capsules can't spit) and don't have Aromasin at the

 

[CanadianTiny]

Yes I run 3x Injection per Week.

Monday: Test Cyp + Primo
Wed: Primo
Friday: Test Cyp + Primo

My Bloodwork was done Friday morning (Before I inject Test Cyp) So they were 4 days between Test Cyp injection and Bloodwork.

Do you know where I could find Arimidex at 0.25 or Aromasin in Canada?. Pur Pharma Canada, only provide 2mg Arimidex (Capsules can't spit) and don't have Aromasin at the moment.

Pur has arimidex , 1mg bro, check it out on their site : www.elitebody.ca. I've personally used it so I know it works.
@pur-pharma-canada .

Cheers!

 

[Mr.Pump87]

Pur has arimidex , 1mg bro, check it out on their site : www.elitebody.ca. I've personally used it so I know it works.
@pur-pharma-canada .

Cheers!

Yeah but it could be hard to split as they come in 1mg Capsule, I want to run 0.25mg 2x per Week.

 

[CanadianTiny]

Yeah but it could be hard to split as they come in 1mg Capsule, I want to run 0.25mg 2x per Week.

Took a couple photos for you. I personally would rather pur's anti estrogens, because all other brands are hard on my gut.

 

[pur-pharma-canada]

Ask dan
We have 1 mg arimadex
12.5 aromasin can send today
Nolavadex we have to
It's all on elicited body
I'd personally use noladex
I can send out td np

Yes I run 3x Injection per Week.

Monday: Test Cyp + Primo
Wed: Primo
Friday: Test Cyp + Primo

My Bloodwork was done Friday morning (Before I inject Test Cyp) So they were 4 days between Test Cyp injection and Bloodwork.

Do you know where I could find Arimidex at 0.25 or Aromasin in Canada?. Pur Pharma Canada, only provide 2mg Arimidex (Capsules can't spit) and don't have Aromasin at the moment.

I can. Send arroamsis 12.5 mg today
Send tonndsn he will have our of post today
Ask price he can today
We also have

Yes I run 3x Injection per Week.

Monday: Test Cyp + Primo
Wed: Primo
Friday: Test Cyp + Primo

My Bloodwork was done Friday morning (Before I inject Test Cyp) So they were 4 days between Test Cyp injection and Bloodwork.

Do you know where I could find Arimm

Took a couple photos for you. I personally would rather pur's anti estrogens, because all other brands are hard on my gut.

Thanks

 

[CC_MacK]

Yes I run 3x Injection per Week.

Monday: Test Cyp + Primo
Wed: Primo
Friday: Test Cyp + Primo

My Bloodwork was done Friday morning (Before I inject Test Cyp) So they were 4 days between Test Cyp injection and Bloodwork.

Do you know where I could find Arimidex at 0.25 or Aromasin in Canada?. Pur Pharma Canada, only provide 2mg Arimidex (Capsules can't spit) and don't have Aromasin at the moment.

I was using pharma arimidex that came in 1mg. They were super hard so easy to split into 4 pieces with a pill cutter. Since switching to UG I just use Aromasin 12.5mg and snap the tab in half by hand. If you go with Aromasin, make sure you take it with a meal containing a decent amount of fat. It’s not water soluble so it needs a fat source to help with uptake.

 

[CC_MacK]

Sorry to mention another source in here but I use Nordic fusion Aromasin for that reason. They’re pill form and not caps so dosing is easy. You can get Nordic on elitebody.ca as well or hit up Titan.

 

[Mr.Pump87]

Sorry to mention another source in here but I use Nordic fusion Aromasin for that reason. They’re pill form and not caps so dosing is easy. You can get Nordic on elitebody.ca as well or hit up Titan.

Thanks, I just spoke to a rep from Pur Pharma, and they send link a list of Nordic Fusion product they also sell. I will order some Aromasin, Super Daily from Nordic, and some more Test Cyp from Pur Pharma

 

[Mr.Pump87]

According to my Bloodwork, I will tune down the Test Cyp to 100mg per Week and also tune down the Primo at 100mg because I can see my SHGB is getting a little low and I don't want to crash it. My plan I to keep 100mg test and 100mg Primo for a couple of months. and I will add maybe 10-20mg of Anavar from Pur Pharma .daily (Sub lingual pre-workout) around March and run until May.

 

[CC_MacK]

Thanks, I just spoke to a rep from Pur Pharma, and they send link a list of Nordic Fusion product they also sell. I will order some Aromasin, Super Daily from Nordic, and some more Test Cyp from Pur Pharma

No worries man, good luck with your journey! Don’t get discouraged if it takes a little while to dial in. When I first started trt, even under doctor care I was around 9 months before being stable. Leaning on the guys in here, making small changes and getting regular bloods, you’ll be able to dial in much faster I’d say.

 

[CC_MacK]

According to my Bloodwork, I will tune down the Test Cyp to 100mg per Week and also tune down the Primo at 100mg because I can see my SHGB is getting a little low and I don't want to crash it. My plan I to keep 100mg test and 100mg Primo for a couple of months. and I will add maybe 10-20mg of Anavar from Pur Pharma .daily (Sub lingual pre-workout) around March and run until May. View attachment 69504

I personally like that effect. Lower SHGB means there’s more free test floating around on your system to put to work. More gains, stronger libido.

 

[Mr.Pump87]

Yeah according to Dr. James (Some YouTube guy) If you drop your SHGB too low, It could have some negative effect like low libido, cannot maintain your boner and irritable. Not sure how relevant is this guy, I'm just trying to learn about PED because I have very little knowledge.
But according to this video, ive my SHGB is low (getting low for me) I should not block my Estradiol E2.

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[LouOden]

Yeah according to Dr. James (Some YouTube guy) If you drop your SHGB too low, It could have some negative effect like low libido, cannot maintain your boner and irritable. Not sure how relevant is this guy, I'm just trying to learn about PED because I have very little knowledge.

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Hes a Doctor in Dubai.. not sure if he really is or not but he seems to talk about gear well.
His videos have also gotten much better
Vigorous Steve is around also but I take it with a grain of salt.

 

[Mr.Pump87]

Hes a Doctor in Dubai.. not sure if he really is or not but he seems to talk about gear well.
His videos have also gotten much better
Vigorous Steve is around also but I take it with a grain of salt.

Yeah he is not a real Doctor, haha it's just his name. But he have some good information I think.

As Pur Pharma Canada mention. Nolvadex would be the better AI to use in my Case. As it is gonna produce more SHGB from my liver.

I will order Nolvadex instead.

 

[CC_MacK]

Yeah according to Dr. James (Some YouTube guy) If you drop your SHGB too low, It could have some negative effect like low libido, cannot maintain your boner and irritable. Not sure how relevant is this guy, I'm just trying to learn about PED because I have very little knowledge.
But according to this video, ive my SHGB is low (getting low for me) I should not block my Estradiol E2.

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Really good video, I definitely didn’t know all of that and will keep it in mind. After a primo run mine is usually really low.

 

[Mobster]

According to my Bloodwork, I will tune down the Test Cyp to 100mg per Week and also tune down the Primo at 100mg because I can see my SHGB is getting a little low and I don't want to crash it. My plan I to keep 100mg test and 100mg Primo for a couple of months. and I will add maybe 10-20mg of Anavar from Pur Pharma .daily (Sub lingual pre-workout) around March and run until May. View attachment 69504

At what dose? And with what in mind?

 

[Mobster]

Both subjects: shbg and not crushing estrogen have been discussed many times on Evo

 

[CC_MacK]

Yeah he is not a real Doctor, haha it's just his name. But he have some good information I think.

As Pur Pharma Canada mention. Nolvadex would be the better AI to use in my Case. As it is gonna produce more SHGB from my liver.

I will order Nolvadex instead.

Nolvadex is not an aromatase inhibitor, it’s a SERM. It will eliminate the risk of gyno by blocking the receptor in your breast tissue but you will still have high estrogen circulating in the blood. Just a heads up.

 

[Mr.Pump87]

At what dose? And with what in mind?

I will add some Sublingual Anavar (Pre-workout) when I will starting the Calories deficit to cut some weight for the summer to support the Energy in the Gym. planning to run 10mg pre workout daily for 12 weeks.

 

[Mr.Pump87]

Nolvadex is not an aromatase inhibitor, it’s a SERM. It will eliminate the risk of gyno by blocking the receptor in your breast tissue but you will still have high estrogen circulating in the blood. Just a heads up.

okay thanks I was wondering, I will also tune down Test Cyp / Primo dose, and will redo some bloodwork in 2-3 months to see where I'm at. E2 should go down.

 

[LouOden]

okay thanks I was wondering, I will also tune down Test Cyp / Primo dose, and will redo some bloodwork in 2-3 months to see where I'm at. E2 should go down.

Bloodwork is where you'll find allot of hidden truths about what's going on inside.

 

[Mobster]

I will add some Sublingual Anavar (Pre-workout) when I will starting the Calories deficit to cut some weight for the summer to support the Energy in the Gym. planning to run 10mg pre workout daily for 12 weeks.

As written it might need explanation.

Here's my thoughts such as they are:

1. I've seen more than a few fairly recent posts discussing the use of a steroid as a preworkout. Considering the popularity of stim based PWO's I understand the logic. Thus: If a PWO is good then surely a steroid is better... I disagree. I'll address a few PED options (to be used sparingly if at all).

2. But you'll be on test / PEDs anyway. An oral PED as a PWO will give you a small (between 10-50mg if using a standard sized var pill) boost vs the amount of other forums of test (lets assume a TRT/Test Cyp for example). Let's say that TRT was 200mg a week (an average self TRT dose). That averages out at 28mg a day (it doesn't actually work like that but it's wayyyyy to complicated to work out an actual number lol)

3. What about the day/s you pin? Is there a boost then? What about the time? Or the time you train?

4. How quickly is it absorbed/digested etc? What about the actual design for it when it was created? That's orally (via the gut). If it was better sub-lingually that's what the pharma company would recommend. Sub-lingually might be (and probably is) LESS efficient. So, assuming ANY absorption you'd need to use more. It works thus (depends on the meds obvs) topical needs the most/highest dose, sub-lingual next, oral next and injectable the least to get an effective for 1-2 hour workout. And you'd still have the rest of the half life etc in your system.

5. One HUGE issue, which you touch upon, is being in a calorie deficit and then trying to have a kick ass workout. I've suggested elsewhere having a high percentage of your daily carbs around the workout. Stevesmi has (and we've both addressed it on podcasts) how little calories are used (circa 400-600 in an hours weight training) and how most bodybuilders would be better to train fasted (us lucky lifters can eat lol). I train in the morning after breakfast. Which is usually a bowl of cereal. My PWO is strong coffee.

6. On food. What you ate the night before if you train in the am will have an effect as will what you eat in the day if you train later. I've done (don't anymore) proper physical work and, providing I had a snack (100g oatmeal flapjack was the bollocks) between work (as well as a small black coffee) I was golden. F**ked when I got home though ha.

Now there ARE kinda hardcore options and I've used these but VERY, VERY rarely.

1. Ephedrine. Hell I still have a load of (probably old as fuck now) 5mg pills. But these are a stim and come with their own issues. I'd now only use them for a PR day. I use to use 5-15mg on leg days years ago. Never any other time
2. Cheque drops. Again day of a competition/max PR attempt.
3. Halotestin - MAYBE. Both Halo (at a high day dose) and Cheque drops (there was another I cant think of right now) should only be used for, VERY short periods of time. The potential risk vs reward with the above is high.
4. Might as well go balls out (this used to be done but was a crazy bad idea) and use adrenaline

I suspect 90% or more of those using an oral steroid as a preworkout are getting a mental boost rather than an actual boost - in other words a placebo. I've used Var solo and I've NEVER felt stronger within an hour of using it so why would I suddenly feel a boost using it as a preworkout. Still one of my fave orals.

There's also, in my case, how I use var. I use it for an increase in strength. Not as an energy boost when I'm cutting kcals. Heck, TBol might be a better option. Ditto GW. And both work well enough that you don't need to dose them just before.

Be sure to note the doses as part of an overall weekly intake even if you only train 3-4x a week and use something on those days. The human body can do a LOT of sub-maximal sh*t on little to no food. You can adapt.

One final thought on PWO stims and PEDS. The issue of using stims, then orals then whatever the fuck comes next is you've not got anywhere else to go short of sniffing coke etc. I've seen the younger users of stim talking about LIKING being wired to train. IF you still wanna try var and 'feel' it works use it ONLY when you absolutely gotta. Leg days is kinda obvious

If you look at my log you'll see what I know is a) a LOW volume sets and reps approach compared to most (and esp bodybuilders) and b) fkin heavy ass weights. The reality, rarely noted in my log, is it's fkin hard. I'll be muttering away trying to get my head space switched on and then do it. I can be, and often was back in the day, tired. But I'm only lifting even in an 8-12 rep sets for a max of 75-90 seconds. I do have the pleasure of longer rests between sets as a 'lifter' but my percentages of max a re a lot higher

 

[Mr.Pump87]

Thanks for sharing your Experience. I only did Anavar 1 time and it was more than 10 years ago. Im coming back to PED with a different approach and want to try to use the minimal effective dose rather that the maximal tolerate dose. I came across that video about subL Anavar. According to this video, there some evidence that SubL have some benefit and could be much less harsh on the organs. I think imma give it a try too see how it feel. Alsp Anavar from Pur Pharma Canada come in Capsules, so its gonna be super ez to take it SubL. Don't need to crush it.

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[CanadianTiny]

Thanks for sharing your Experience. I only did Anavar 1 time and it was more than 10 years ago. Im coming back to PED with a different approach and want to try to use the minimal effective dose rather that the maximal tolerate dose. I came across that video about subL Anavar. According to this video, there some evidence that SubL have some benefit and could be much less harsh on the organs. I think imma give it a try too see how it feel. Alsp Anavar from Pur Pharma Canada come in Capsules, so its gonna be super ez to take it SubL. Don't need to crush it.

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Pur winstrol is good.
And nolvadex from elitebody.ca.. I've used both.

 

[pur-pharma-canada]

Thanks.. joe

 

[CanadianTiny]

Thanks.. joe

Cheers

 

[Mr.Pump87]

I talk to my doctor today about my testosterone level and he said that my actually test could be > or = to 52 (>=1500 ng/dl). So my real test could be around 2000ng/dl or even higher. As some people said, I could be a high responder as I only run 150mg of test week for about 8 weeks, (+150 mg primo for about 3 weeks). So I lowered my test cyp to 100mg per week and increased my Primo to 200mg per week. Will do blood work in about 6-8 weeks. My testosterone level should decreased as Primo are not suppose to increased test level in blood. I keep you informed of my result.

 

[Eddie Haskell]

I talk to my doctor today about my testosterone level and he said that my actually test could be > or = to 52 (>=1500 ng/dl). So my real test could be around 2000ng/dl or even higher. As some people said, I could be a high responder as I only run 150mg of test week for about 8 weeks, (+150 mg primo for about 3 weeks). So I lowered my test cyp to 100mg per week and increased my Primo to 200mg per week. Will do blood work in about 6-8 weeks. My testosterone level should decreased as Primo are not suppose to increased test level in blood. I keep you informed of my result.

Interesting and possible, but you realise food can be estrogenic? Example soy and overtraining is the same issue, think cortisol wbc.

 

[Mr.Pump87]

Interesting and possible, but you realise food can be estrogenic? Example soy and overtraining is the same issue, think cortisol wbc.

I didn’t talk about E2 level here. Also I eat a carnivore diet. 90% of my diet are beef and eggs. No soy or junk food. Can this explain my very high test level with only 150 mg of test?

 

[Eddie Haskell]

I didn’t talk about E2 level here. Also I eat a carnivore diet. 90% of my diet are beef and eggs. No soy or junk food. Can this explain my very high test level with only 150 mg of test?

I was thinking maybe there is e2 in play, that’s why I said it. If you’re pure carnivore shouldn’t be a food issue.
You said 90% what’s the other 10% of food?

And yes carnivore diets boost testosterone and help utilise exogenous testosterone as well.

 

[Mr.Pump87]

You said 90% what’s the other 10% of food?

Dairy 1 cup cottage cheese and some whey protein.

 

[Mr.Pump87]

First time trying Primo so I don’t know what to expect. I just hope I’m not injecting 600mg of test per week haha, Anyway bloodwork will give the answer in 6-8 weeks, I don’t want to talk shit without evidence.

 

[Eddie Haskell]

Dairy 1 cup cottage cheese and some whey protein.

And besides this, clarify like meat fish etc? Curious

 

[Eddie Haskell]

First time trying Primo so I don’t know what to expect. I just hope I’m not injecting 600mg of test per week haha, Anyway bloodwork will give the answer in 6-8 weeks, I don’t want to talk shit without evidence.

If high doses of primobolan your worry that’s all low estrogen

Why do you think doses off?

 

[Mr.Pump87]

And besides this, clarify like meat fish etc? Curious

Only grass fed beef and livers. Occasionally some chickens. I do supplément in magnesium and Omega3 and multi.

 

[Mr.Pump87]

If high doses of primobolan your worry that’s all low estrogen

Why do you think doses off?

Because my Estrogen is high and my testosterone is insanely high for only 150 mg Cypionate per week. So I want to lower my testosterone and lower my estrogen.

 

[Eddie Haskell]

Only grass fed beef and livers. Occasionally some chickens. I do supplément in magnesium and Omega3 and multi.

Careful with liver and gout, some other sides try to limit it to eod.

 

[Eddie Haskell]

Because my Estrogen is high and my testosterone is insanely high for only 150 mg Cypionate per week. So I want to lower my testosterone and lower my estrogen.

If you want to do something about estrogen fast, aromasin 25/25 2 days follows by 10mgs eod, add tamoxifen 10mgs ed 2 weeks.

Primobolan could make situation worse imo.

 

[Mr.Pump87]

Careful with liver and gout

This had been debunk long time ago. The actual cause of gout is oxalates in vegetable and other oxalate rich food like peanut. And for liver I eat about 6 oz per week to get my vitamine and minerals.

 

[Mr.Pump87]

If you want to do something about estrogen fast, aromasin 25/25 2 days follows by 10mgs eod, add tamoxifen 10mgs ed 2 weeks.

I need to be careful with AI because my SHBG is getting a little lower and I don’t want to tank it. But I ordered some Nolva and Arimidex from Pur this week.

 

[Eddie Haskell]

This had been debunk long time ago. The actual cause of gout is oxalates in vegetable and other oxalate rich food like peanut. And for liver I eat about 6 oz per week to get my vitamine and minerals.

Not true at all, there is scientific data it’s not debunked. But I’m open for you to show me your science, please not just generic articles. Actual pubmed science.

And 6oz per week is nothing, no problem. I imagined you doing 6oz liver ed

 

[Eddie Haskell]

I need to be careful with AI because my SHBG is getting a little lower and I don’t want to tank it. But I ordered some Nolva and Arimidex from Pur this week.

Get aromasin and not arimidex.

Why are you worried about shbg being tanked with Ai? There is no evidence of this scientifically or anecdotally.

 

[Mr.Pump87]

Not true at all, there is scientific data it’s not debunked.

Most likely a scientist studies paid by big food companies to reduce red meat consumption and sell more junk food like grain and processed food.

 

[Eddie Haskell]

Most likely a scientist studies paid by big food companies to reduce red meat consumption and sell more junk food like grain and processed food.

Oh I don’t doubt it, they all corrupt; but anecdotally and first hand with guys I train, too much liver has nasty sides, fact.

But your consumption is on point.

 

[Mr.Pump87]

Get aromasin and not arimidex

Pur Pharma only sell Nolva and Arimidex. I tried to email them to get some Nordic Fusion product but never got answer.

 

[Mr.Pump87]

Why are you worried about shbg being tanked with Ai? There is no evidence of this scientifically or anecdotally.

I took this information for a video I posted in this Post earlier from DrJames. According to him, ideal SHBG range is 25-35. Mine is actually 24.6. Also he recommend to not block E2 if you have low SHBG. Also he said that Nolvadex could help increase SHBG from the liver. But again SHBG is complex.

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[pur-pharma-canada]

Hope everyone has had a great 2025 so far.
From Today until March 31st we are doing buy any 3 and receive one of the following on us.
Test cyp
OR
Test Enth
OR
Sustanon 250

Thank you everyone for your support.
For orders contact us at
[email protected]

 

[CC_MacK]

I took this information for a video I posted in this Post earlier from DrJames. According to him, ideal SHBG range is 25-35. Mine is actually 24.6. Also he recommend to not block E2 if you have low SHBG. Also he said that Nolvadex could help increase SHBG from the liver. But again SHBG is complex.

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Dude 24 is not low at all. Mine is 6 right now on test and primo. Don’t over complicate things and try to digest to much info at once. It’s natural for your SHGB to lower a bit when taking exogenous testosterone. At 24 with high estrogen the only thing I would be worried about is controlling the e2.

 

[Eddie Haskell]

Pur Pharma only sell Nolva and Arimidex. I tried to email them to get some Nordic Fusion product but never got answer.

Arimidex is fine as well. Clean Ai, stay with @pur-pharma-canada they are trusted.

 

[Eddie Haskell]

took this information for a video I posted in this Post earlier from DrJames. According to him, ideal SHBG range is 25-35. Mine is actually 24.6. Also he recommend to not block E2 if you have low SHBG. Also he said that Nolvadex could help increase SHBG from the liver. But again SHBG is complex.

He provides cliche arguments and no anecdotal data with steroid users. Like I said we have a lot more info in the EVO family.
@AE1079 please comment on this shbg issue

 

[Mobster]

Let's imagine he was correct. You're just under the suggested range. Like .4

 

[Mobster]

Check out this @pur-pharma-canada touchdown

 

[Mr.Pump87]

Let's imagine he was correct. You're just under the suggested range. Like .4

Yeah you're right guys, I think imma chill with my SHBG, im just new to this and trying to understand and control my bio-markers as much as possible.

 

[LouOden]

He provides cliche arguments and no anecdotal data with steroid users. Like I said we have a lot more info in the EVO family.
@AE1079 please comment on this shbg issue

You can hire him for 500 hour, just use the youtube link. He just using YouTube to promote business to afford his Dubai lifestyle

 

[Eddie Haskell]

Yeah you're right guys, I think imma chill with my SHBG, im just new to this and trying to understand and control my bio-markers as much as possible.

Smart move. you don’t need to worry about SHBG a lot.

 

[CanadianTiny]

Pur winstrol is good.
And nolvadex from elitebody.ca.. I've used both.

Good for nothing that is

 

[CanadianTiny]

This gear is fucking garbage, no expiry date? Half assed sticked on labels? Copied another labs name with there own sticker machine that's obvious, alpha north labs and the real PUr-Pharma Canada that you copied actually has lot numbers, expiry dates and there websites right on there bottles , your gear looks like they came right from an olive oil bottle your Tren is garbage btw , all your gear is garbage , why did a guy have 11.5 shots in a 10 cc bottle that makes no fucking sense at all . Your website is shit too and doesn't match your name , I personally didn't notice any results with your gear . It's fake as far as I can tell or really fucking cheap china garbage. You guys do nothing but lie to me , so now is when I say go fuck yourself pur whatever you are and don't ever contact me again to promote your garbage gear . . You told me right on this site you had my back for coach everything, then you privately email me and say you can only do 30 percent off why the fuck would I want your 39 percent off after you lied to me , and I have two other company's backing me full-time without crying like a little bitch that you are Dan. FUCK n sick of you stringing me along this is my life and my procard I've been waiting my whole life for this and your not about to fuck that up , take your shit gear and fuck off. Happy new year assholes

 

[CanadianTiny]

The only fucking reason I said it was good was cause it was free , it's fucking shit is what it is

 

[CanadianTiny]

Take your inconsistencies and your expireless 11.5cc jugs ,garbage and dont ever contact me again you rip off piece of shit you've done nothing but waste my goddamn time

 

[CanadianTiny]

You fucking tools said right on this site about a month ago you were set to sponsor me fully with coach and everything then two weeks into my prep you tell me I get only 30 percent off. Like now I'm behind and won't make my show likely you guys are nothing but liars scammers and heartless goofs

 

[CanadianTiny]

I talk to my doctor today about my testosterone level and he said that my actually test could be > or = to 52 (>=1500 ng/dl). So my real test could be around 2000ng/dl or even higher. As some people said, I could be a high responder as I only run 150mg of test week for about 8 weeks, (+150 mg primo for about 3 weeks). So I lowered my test cyp to 100mg per week and increased my Primo to 200mg per week. Will do blood work in about 6-8 weeks. My testosterone level should decreased as Primo are not suppose to increased test level in blood. I keep you informed of my result.

Fake just like there Tren that's why . With alphas Tren I get a cough right away with pur I didn't the first thing I thought was that it was fake and yes there primo I found was garbage too

 

[CanadianTiny]

By the way people are ordering from PUr-pharma again, if your wondering why your shit lab is going to shit.

 

[LouOden]

Well to set the record straight @Canadian Tiny it very clear to see that if someone does not give you free stuff they all suck, right from Alpha labs then to Pur, who else have you said all this nasty stuff about.

None of your rants have ever produced a single thread of factual evidence to back up your wild accusations...

My blood work personally speaks to the validity of [email protected]
(Check my thread to see very recent proof)

You've voiced your opinion long ago now on your feelings about Pur and whatever fall out happened between you both.
I think it's beyond time you move on from being a negative twat to focusing more on your Pro Card..

Remeber your Pro Card will have allot of extra perks and personal satisfaction that comes with it.
Certainly you wouldn't want people see just how much of a dick you can be, social media ruins people give that some food for thought before you keep rambling like a kid

Give it up.

 

[CanadianTiny]

Well to set the record straight @Canadian Tiny it very clear to see that if someone does not give you free stuff they all suck, right from Alpha labs then to Pur, who else have you said all this nasty stuff about.

None of your rants have ever produced a single thread of factual evidence to back up your wild accusations...

My blood work personally speaks to the validity of [email protected]
(Check my thread to see very recent proof)

You've voiced your opinion long ago now on your feelings about Pur and whatever fall out happened between you both.
I think it's beyond time you move on from being a negative twat to focusing more on your Pro Card..

Remeber your Pro Card will have allot of extra perks and personal satisfaction that comes with it.
Certainly you wouldn't want people see just how much of a dick you can be, social media ruins people give that some food for thought before you keep rambling like a kid

Give it

Well to set the record straight @Canadian Tiny it very clear to see that if someone does not give you free stuff they all suck, right from Alpha labs then to Pur, who else have you said all this nasty stuff about.

None of your rants have ever produced a single thread of factual evidence to back up your wild accusations...

My blood work personally speaks to the validity of [email protected]
(Check my thread to see very recent proof)

You've voiced your opinion long ago now on your feelings about Pur and whatever fall out happened between you both.
I think it's beyond time you move on from being a negative twat to focusing more on your Pro Card..

Remeber your Pro Card will have allot of extra perks and personal satisfaction that comes with it.
Certainly you wouldn't want people see just how much of a dick you can be, social media ruins people give that some food for thought before you keep rambling like a kid

Give it up.

Your the one that was saying they are pirating by the way you looked at the bottles your the one who got me noticing this stuff you fucking GOOF:
IM LOOKING OUT FOR PEOPLE WE PUT THIS SHIT IN OUR BODIES AND IT HAS NO EXPIRY DATE GIVE YOUR HEAD A SHAKE You FAT GOOF
The only sure way to test for counterfeit drugs is through chemical analysis done in a laboratory.

 

[LouOden]

Your the one that was saying they are pirating by the way you looked at the bottles your the one who got me noticing this stuff you fucking GOOF:
IM LOOKING OUT FOR PEOPLE WE PUT THIS SHIT IN OUR BODIES AND IT HAS NO EXPIRY DATE GIVE YOUR HEAD A SHAKE You FAT GOOF
The only sure way to test for counterfeit drugs is through chemical analysis done in a laboratory.

Thank you CanadianTiny for your kind words.
You have just said it yourself " the only way to test for counterfit drugs is in a lab"

So step up get your stuff tested properly and post it up.

 

[CanadianTiny]

Thank you CanadianTiny for your kind words.
You have just said it yourself " the only way to test for counterfit drugs is in a lab"

So step up get your stuff tested properly and post it up.

I don't have to with there shit I know it's bunk

 

[CanadianTiny]

Here's what my face looks like after finishing a 20 week cycle with @pur-pharma-canada . Is this normal? It was even worse on cycle .

 

[Mr.Pump87]

Fake just like there Tren that's why . With alphas Tren I get a cough right away with pur I didn't the first thing I thought was that it was fake and yes there primo I found was garbage too

I have some doubts that there Primo might actually be just be Test Enanthate or Test Cyp, I however don't have the bloodwork to back my claims yet, will do I 8 weeks. What about you, as an avid steroid user, do you have bloodwork done every 3 months?

 

[CanadianTiny]

I have some doubts that there Primo might actually be just be Test Enanthate or Test Cyp, I however don't have the bloodwork to back my claims yet, will do I 8 weeks. What about you, as an avid steroid user, do you have bloodwork done every 3 months?

It is, I know what they are doing they are buying just test from china and relabelling it I've had real primo before and I had there stuff to and it was junk.