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Approved Log From endurance athlete to fitness - My first ever PED cycle log

@LevButlerov yeah! Not sure how your french is, i'm eastern canadian and the hospital who takes the blood samples gets me everything in french :/ Here are the four pages. Blood count, lipids profile, estrogen (estradiol) and endocrinology. I don't know if there is something specifically important i should ask the doc for in addition to these markers but that's the default metrics we've been following over the last year, pre-cycle and during cycle.

Thanks!
@haldencapital glad to see the bloodwork man taking care of yourself
 
@haldencapital what part of canada are you? you know Brad Marchand? i think he is also from east canada and french. i ask cause i got in fight with him at a bar a while back when i was in boston. really short tempered dude
Who won? Everyone here in Canada hates that douche. He's the king rat of the NHL. We only give him a pass when he represents Canada because for a short while he's out rat.
 
@LevButlerov sure. Unfortunately, the doc didn't really bothered doing estrogen in the blood work prior to me going on gear so we don't have a base level. I was simply on TRT with androgel, about 35-50 mg per week. We only followed test levels from there.

On May 22, 2024 after the blood work, we started 35-50 mg a week of androgel. The August 14, 2024 reading was after 3 months of androgel. Every testosterone metric doubled on androgel.

On February 13th, 2025, 7 days before the blood work reading of Feb 20th, 2025, i had my first test cyp injection of 50 mg and 4 days later 62.5 mg. The bloodwork was on Feb 20, 2024. I had two injections at this point.

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From the February 20, 2025 reading the dose was pyramiding up.

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The first estrogen reading was on April 17th, 2025. 72 hours after my last pin of 100 mg. I converted it from 255 pmol/L (the lab reading) to 69.5 pg/ml depending on what metric is prefered. Using this calculator : https://unitslab.com/node/113

Over the month prior to the April 17th, 2025 blood work, i was at 87.5 mg twice a week (175 mg a week). I did my last ramp up to 200mg a week (2 x 100 mg) in the 3 weeks prior to the blood work...

This is somewhat a "safe dose" so that is why the estrogen level surprises me a bit. Maybe the high estrogen is simply due to the body's adaptation to the ramp up? I remember really feeling it more at 200 mg a week and it regulated slowly over time.

I did not take anything else. That was test cyp + 40 mg of anavar on training days (5 times a week on average).

Your free test is insane for only 200mg, atleast compared to me lol. Either your a hyper responded or I'm a weak responder, curious to know which. Maybe both?

I was running 180mg as a TRT dose for 3 months and I was in the mid 900s. Estrogen was still within range.

Maybe I'm just a weak responder. I've always had a extremely high tolerance for everything. Used to take me twice as much as the next guy to have the same amount of fun lol.

Were you still using the androgel with the cyp? Where's your dosing at now?
 
Your free test is insane for only 200mg, atleast compared to me lol. Either your a hyper responded or I'm a weak responder, curious to know which. Maybe both?

I was running 180mg as a TRT dose for 3 months and I was in the mid 900s. Estrogen was still within range.

Maybe I'm just a weak responder. I've always had a extremely high tolerance for everything. Used to take me twice as much as the next guy to have the same amount of fun lol.

Were you still using the androgel with the cyp? Where's your dosing at now?

@BeMe well you see I compared with yours this weekend and I thought I was simply a hyper responder lol 🤣 I am way overboard at 200 mg a week.

Now, with being overboard by this much I decided to get it down to only 140 mg and compensate the anabolic load with masteron. I'll see how I respond after one or two injections but the plan was to go 1:2 ratio test : masteron. So 140 mg testosterone and 280mg masteron per week. I added a tiny bit of aromasin 0.5 mg a week. I'll see where I land with this in 4 weeks with the next blood sample.

No more androgel since I started injecting in February this year.

If my blood yields good results with that adjustment I will probably replace a portion of the base of testosterone by some EQ to reduce aromatization in the next cycle this winter. Trial and error still. That's only the first iteration. Goooood thing I did blood work soon before making too much damage.

For know I focus on the blood and getting shredded for the summer. I'll have interesting data to begin with when I'm ready for the winter.
 
@BeMe well you see I compared with yours this weekend and I thought I was simply a hyper responder lol 🤣 I am way overboard at 200 mg a week.

Now, with being overboard by this much I decided to get it down to only 140 mg and compensate the anabolic load with masteron. I'll see how I respond after one or two injections but the plan was to go 1:2 ratio test : masteron. So 140 mg testosterone and 280mg masteron per week. I added a tiny bit of aromasin 0.5 mg a week. I'll see where I land with this in 4 weeks with the next blood sample.

No more androgel since I started injecting in February this year.

If my blood yields good results with that adjustment I will probably replace a portion of the base of testosterone by some EQ to reduce aromatization in the next cycle this winter. Trial and error still. That's only the first iteration. Goooood thing I did blood work soon before making too much damage.

For know I focus on the blood and getting shredded for the summer. I'll have interesting data to begin with when I'm ready for the winter.
Are you working with a TRT clinic or doctor for your blood work and test prescription?

They won't give you your results in English??? You don't write like a Francophone so I'm assuming you moved to QC from somewhere else? They expect you to read it all in French lol. This is why the Bloc lost all those seats to the Libs haha
 
Are you working with a TRT clinic or doctor for your blood work and test prescription?

They won't give you your results in English??? You don't write like a Francophone so I'm assuming you moved to QC from somewhere else? They expect you to read it all in French lol. This is why the Bloc lost all those seats to the Libs haha

A private clinic, general medecine. There is no TRT clinic nearby. I do it all there.

Thank you, my English was much better a few years ago when I was in Toronto. Long story short. I was born and raised in the tiniest francophone village ever. But I moved to Toronto for a few years when I was 22. That's where I learned and got to speak English the most. I moved back in Quebec 5 years ago and can't speak as often as I used to obviously, so I hop on AAS/PED forums to at least practice the writing skills 🙂🙃🙂
 
A private clinic, general medecine. There is no TRT clinic nearby. I do it all there.

Thank you, my English was much better a few years ago when I was in Toronto. Long story short. I was born and raised in the tiniest francophone village ever. But I moved to Toronto for a few years when I was 22. That's where I learned and got to speak English the most. I moved back in Quebec 5 years ago and can't speak as often as I used to obviously, so I hop on AAS/PED forums to at least practice the writing skills 🙂🙃🙂
Wow I would've never guessed. Usually grammar and verb tenses are a giveaway, but no sign at all. You're a real deal fluent multilingual guy. You were smart to get outta Toronto while you could. This city has a way of trapping people on the hamster wheel of life. The older I get the more I'm looking forward to getting the hell outta here.

I saw you were running 40mgs of Anavar. Were you doing it sublingually twice a day? Your lipids looked pretty decent. How long did you run the 40mgs for?
 
Wow I would've never guessed. Usually grammar and verb tenses are a giveaway, but no sign at all. You're a real deal fluent multilingual guy. You were smart to get outta Toronto while you could. This city has a way of trapping people on the hamster wheel of life. The older I get the more I'm looking forward to getting the hell outta here.

I saw you were running 40mgs of Anavar. Were you doing it sublingually twice a day? Your lipids looked pretty decent. How long did you run the 40mgs for?
Thanks, doing my best! Writing everyday and reading in English definitely help.

I got out at the right time. Before Trudeau opened the immigration floodgate and before the vaccine sh*tshow. 🤮

HDL went down pretty quickly after only two weeks of 40 mg anavar. I had tabs (pills) so what I did to get a simili-sublingual was to mash it down into a powder using a mortar and pestle that I use for grounding spices. Some imagination was required here. Then took the powder under the tongue for a minute or two to let it completely dissolve. Does that count as sublingual, not sure but it kicked in like a twelve gauge man. 🙈 I love anavar pre-workout. You really feel invincible. But.... Need to be extra careful to prevent injury. Joints and tendons don't grow at the same rate as our muscle do.

Now I just hope I won't crash HDL more than I should. I would like to see it go back to the mean after stopping it last week. 8 weeks was plenty.
 
Thanks, doing my best! Writing everyday and reading in English definitely help.

I got out at the right time. Before Trudeau opened the immigration floodgate and before the vaccine sh*tshow. 🤮

HDL went down pretty quickly after only two weeks of 40 mg anavar. I had tabs (pills) so what I did to get a simili-sublingual was to mash it down into a powder using a mortar and pestle that I use for grounding spices. Some imagination was required here. Then took the powder under the tongue for a minute or two to let it completely dissolve. Does that count as sublingual, not sure but it kicked in like a twelve gauge man. 🙈 I love anavar pre-workout. You really feel invincible. But.... Need to be extra careful to prevent injury. Joints and tendons don't grow at the same rate as our muscle do.

Now I just hope I won't crash HDL more than I should. I would like to see it go back to the mean after stopping it last week. 8 weeks was plenty.

If you get a pill crusher on Amazon it's a lot easier. They're cheap too. Takes literally seconds to grind up and funnel it right under your tongue.

We're you doing 20mgs in the am and pm or just shotgunning the entire 40mgs pre-workout?
 
If you get a pill crusher on Amazon it's a lot easier. They're cheap too. Takes literally seconds to grind up and funnel it right under your tongue.

We're you doing 20mgs in the am and pm or just shotgunning the entire 40mgs pre-workout?

I'll look it up. i did not realize pill crushers were a thing. But now that you mention it, pretty obvious!

40 mg all-in straight to the dome preworkout. I don't really get anything out of it outside of my workout. I would rather take it all at once and feel it where it matters the most. But i guess it's personal preference. My focus and my blood flow are both superior while on it. 250 mg of caffeine to rinse it up and we are bringing the weights for a nasty ride :) I can't wait to get paper thin skin again and see the veiny snakes everywhere 👿
 
I'll look it up. i did not realize pill crushers were a thing. But now that you mention it, pretty obvious!

40 mg all-in straight to the dome preworkout. I don't really get anything out of it outside of my workout. I would rather take it all at once and feel it where it matters the most. But i guess it's personal preference. My focus and my blood flow are both superior while on it. 250 mg of caffeine to rinse it up and we are bringing the weights for a nasty ride :) I can't wait to get paper thin skin again and see the veiny snakes everywhere 👿
I've been doing 20mg and I feel a difference, but it's nothing too crazy. Usually adding 5lbs and a rep or two to some movements. By unenhanced standards that would be pretty amazing. I'm trying to go long so I need to keep my doses lower. I've saw there were medical studies where people were given 20mgs a day orally for 16 weeks and it was fine. Sublingual dosing reduces the liver toxicity so I think I can maintain this dose for the whole cycle.
 
I've been doing 20mg and I feel a difference, but it's nothing too crazy. Usually adding 5lbs and a rep or two to some movements. By unenhanced standards that would be pretty amazing. I'm trying to go long so I need to keep my doses lower. I've saw there were medical studies where people were given 20mgs a day orally for 16 weeks and it was fine. Sublingual dosing reduces the liver toxicity so I think I can maintain this dose for the whole cycle.

16 weeks at 20 mg would be fine I'm sure. And you'll have blood check-in during this time anyway so it's not like you would go blindly for 4 months. 🙏🏻
 
16 weeks at 20 mg would be fine I'm sure. And you'll have blood check-in during this time anyway so it's not like you would go blindly for 4 months. 🙏🏻
Yea I'm working with a TRT clinic team so I get fairly regular bloodwork. May 31 I'll go and see how my body is handling all this. By then I'll have been on the higher dose of test and primo for a month so it will be a good time to check in. Hopefully by then I'll look almost as jacked as you
 
Who won? Everyone here in Canada hates that douche. He's the king rat of the NHL. We only give him a pass when he represents Canada because for a short while he's out rat.
@BeMe i don't think anyone won technically. we both got kicked out of the bar along with our group
 
@BeMe i don't think anyone won technically. we both got kicked out of the bar along with our group
Ah I was hoping you were gonna say you got him. Hate that rat bastard. I'm a leafs fan in Toronto and we got a lot of bad blood with Boston in the Marchand era. Now we're stuck dealing with his stupid ass again now that he's in Florida.

If you get the chance can you bar fight him again and take him outta the playoffs for us. That would be much appreciated @ROIDDERS
 
Ah I was hoping you were gonna say you got him. Hate that rat bastard. I'm a leafs fan in Toronto and we got a lot of bad blood with Boston in the Marchand era. Now we're stuck dealing with his stupid ass again now that he's in Florida.

If you get the chance can you bar fight him again and take him outta the playoffs for us. That would be much appreciated @ROIDDERS
@BeMe haha, i know nothing about hockey. so its cool to see that you know him. the bar we used to go always had pro athletes show up. it was the 'hang out' spot for them. we would see lots of fights. these guys are the biggest boneheads you can imagine who just happen to have money
 
@BeMe haha, i know nothing about hockey. so its cool to see that you know him. the bar we used to go always had pro athletes show up. it was the 'hang out' spot for them. we would see lots of fights. these guys are the biggest boneheads you can imagine who just happen to have money
Yea hockey players aren't known for being the brightest bunch. There's a lot of shows and movies about just that lol. They do all love to party and fight tho. Old school athletes that way haha @ROIDDERS
 
Yea hockey players aren't known for being the brightest bunch. There's a lot of shows and movies about just that lol. They do all love to party and fight tho. Old school athletes that way haha @ROIDDERS
@BeMe yeah its a culture thing like any profession. i saw an article about a bunch of team canada players getting in trouble for assaulting a poor girl. they think they can do whatever they want cause they think they are the shit just cause they can skate around with a stick SMH
 
@BeMe yeah its a culture thing like any profession. i saw an article about a bunch of team canada players getting in trouble for assaulting a poor girl. they think they can do whatever they want cause they think they are the shit just cause they can skate around with a stick SMH
@ROIDDERS I think that was the team Canada junior team. It was a bunch of kids mostly from the London Knights. They ended up winning that case because it turned out the girl made a bunch of stuff up. It was during the metoo days and from the sounds of it she hooked up with a couple of the players then felt bad about it a few days later when her mom found out.
 
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