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how to bulk on dbol/deca?

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I’m 5’7”, 165 lbs. I’m a hard gainer but I’ve put on about 15 lbs naturally over the past year. I would like to get stronger and bulk up. What do you think about doing Deca and Dianabol together? I’m 30 years old. I did use steroids in my early 20s for a couple cycles so I’m not a newbie at it, but I didn’t know what I was doing back then. What are the dosages you recommend for deca and dianabol?
 
I’ve never really used dbol mate but test E 250ml + deca 200ml weekly is good but conservative bulking cycle. Good place
To start if it’s your first cycle for a while
 
I’m 5’7”, 165 lbs. I’m a hard gainer but I’ve put on about 15 lbs naturally over the past year. I would like to get stronger and bulk up. What do you think about doing Deca and Dianabol together? I’m 30 years old. I did use steroids in my early 20s for a couple cycles so I’m not a newbie at it, but I didn’t know what I was doing back then. What are the dosages you recommend for deca and dianabol?
Test 150/wk
Deca 150/wk
Dbol 20mg/ later in the cycle when lifts stall
AI on hand.
Organ protection.
 
I’m 5’7”, 165 lbs. I’m a hard gainer but I’ve put on about 15 lbs naturally over the past year. I would like to get stronger and bulk up. What do you think about doing Deca and Dianabol together? I’m 30 years old. I did use steroids in my early 20s for a couple cycles so I’m not a newbie at it, but I didn’t know what I was doing back then. What are the dosages you recommend for deca and dianabol?
Run test base first at 300-400 mg/week, then stack deca at 200mg/week and dbol at 20-30 mg/day for 4-6 weeks to start.
 
Test 150/wk
Deca 150/wk
Dbol 20mg/ later in the cycle when lifts stall
AI on hand.
Organ protection.
I’ve always considered test 250 weekly a conservative amount but just from reading through forums on here there seems to be a fairly popular train of thought test can be just as effective with lower doses. Interested in your experiences??
 
Bro don't even worry about deca and dbol.

Before you go anything, get baseline blood work. You need your current hormone levels.

I'd honestly start at a TRT level of test first, 150 to 175mg per week (i personally like to split into every day microinjections for more stable blood levels). You'll end up in the high normal range and pretty drastically improve your physique. After 4-6 weeks, get more blood work.

You can then assess how much estrogren to convert. You might be a high aromastiser, so you might need and aromatise inhibiter. You might not.

Then you can push to 250mg, 4-6 weeks more bloodwork. Now when before you didnt need an AI, you now need one. Maybe you need MORE or LESS AI.

And you keep doing this step anytime you increase a dose or add a drug.
 
I’ve always considered test 250 weekly a conservative amount but just from reading through forums on here there seems to be a fairly popular train of thought test can be just as effective with lower doses. Interested in your experiences??
I think people run gear a lot higher then they need to. Especially younger guys. As you'll hear me say over and over, more is not better.
You should be looking to do the lowest amount of gear you need to achieve your goals. 250 test is great in a stack. For me if i'm running it solo I would go a bit higher. The cycle I gave above is moderate dosing. We don;t know much about the OP and hid past use/results so it's very hard to tailor a steroid stack for him.
When taking any steroids there is a law of diminishing returns. Going from 250mg/wk to 500mg/wk may give you twice the results if diet/training are on point. Going from 500mg/wk to 1000mg/wk will not give you twice the results but it will give you a whole slew of sides to try to manage.
I would also not run the same amount of test solo as I would stacked. You have to find your sweet spot. The key is to start low. This is a long game and if your taking to much gear without first achieving the proper base you are just renting muscle that will evaporate when you come off.
 
Better make sure you're using N2guard as well. It's very important on cycle. It will help with side effects and does a lot of good things. Your heart will be strained on a cycle like this.
 
here is how i would play it:

dbol 20mgs a day
deca 300mgs a week
test 500mgs a week
 
Bro napsgear has the best trenbolone out there. I don't know why people don't want to use it when they're bulking. It works good with testosterone and dianabol and it works good with testosterone and deca. You'll blow up like crazy.
 
Domestic supply has excellent prices on products. They actually have some good deals going right now. Check out what they got. You'll have a good bulking that you could put together. You could also use equipoise to bulk as well. It doesn't have to be dianabol or Deca.
 
I love me some EQ for bulking. I would swap it in and lower your testosterone dose or drop dianabol completely. This way you don't end up just getting a lot of water retention.
 
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