Approved Log Pre-peptide log - Planning before trying injections

[toddthelineman]

Ive made the decision to stop the low card diet for now. I have noticed less bloating (not sure if its water weight or other bloat), and a little bit more muscular defition (presumably due to less bloat) but the brain fog and complete energy crash has been killing my productivity. I want to give it another go, but when im in a Uni break. I presume that I would get pas this at some point, but I dont really want to waste that period required, when I could be productive during that.

I’m sorry it’s not working out. Looks like you fasted recently, the last day you logged food was only 1500 calories. Log before that was 1600. You’re starving. I should have paid closer attention to your log and encouraged you to eat more. Kilo of meat plus eggs.

But it’s well known that it isn’t easy to do, a lot of people get really downright emotional about their carbs. I would have expected you to have the opposite of brain fog. Ketosis should have your brain working noticeably better, this is widely reported. I’m sorry it’s not working out

 

[LevButlerov]

Ive made the decision to stop the low card diet for now. I have noticed less bloating (not sure if its water weight or other bloat), and a little bit more muscular defition (presumably due to less bloat) but the brain fog and complete energy crash has been killing my productivity. I want to give it another go, but when im in a Uni break. I presume that I would get pas this at some point, but I dont really want to waste that period required, when I could be productive during that.

you can do the same diet, just add more healthy carbs like oatmeal and rice, can you dot hat? @Rurx7

 

[25homes]

I dont notice any differences

no gym today. my dad made a meal with tons of carbs so I fasted dinner today


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Fasting works great

 

[Rurx7]

Yesterday:
Smith shoulder press:

30 for 7

30 for 7

30 for 5



Standing multi flight:

40 for 5

40 for 5

40 for 6



Rear delt fly:

75 for 6

68 for 8



Rope Tricep pulldown:

20 for 7

20 for 7

20 for 7

Today:
Pull-ups:

3



Assisted pull-ups:

16 for 9

16 for 5



Face pull:

25 for 12

25 for 10

25 for 8



Tbar row:

30 for 7

30 for 5



Shrugs:

35 for 5

 

[LevButlerov]

Yesterday:
Smith shoulder press:

30 for 7

30 for 7

30 for 5



Standing multi flight:

40 for 5

40 for 5

40 for 6



Rear delt fly:

75 for 6

68 for 8



Rope Tricep pulldown:

20 for 7

20 for 7

20 for 7

Today:
Pull-ups:

3



Assisted pull-ups:

16 for 9

16 for 5



Face pull:

25 for 12

25 for 10

25 for 8



Tbar row:

30 for 7

30 for 5



Shrugs:

35 for 5

Training looks good overall but 30kg on shoulder press?
and how was your diet? @Rurx7

 

[Rurx7]

Training looks good overall but 30kg on shoulder press?
and how was your diet? @Rurx7

The smith machine at my gym is really weird.

Diet is just meat and rice and random assortments of fruit. since im bulking, is it fine if I just eat as much good food as possible, and then just log if I eat bad food? Im not concerned about tracking calories all that much, I just want to get protein in.

Ive done the fitness test ~ passed. and yesteday I finished enlistment ceremony so I just need to train for basic training in Jan (hopefully).

Also ive noticed that I have gotten bigger with a pump, but about the same size without a pump???

 

[LevButlerov]

The smith machine at my gym is really weird.

Diet is just meat and rice and random assortments of fruit. since im bulking, is it fine if I just eat as much good food as possible, and then just log if I eat bad food? Im not concerned about tracking calories all that much, I just want to get protein in.

Ive done the fitness test ~ passed. and yesteday I finished enlistment ceremony so I just need to train for basic training in Jan (hopefully).

Also ive noticed that I have gotten bigger with a pump, but about the same size without a pump???

You should still try to track food its important
and congratulations on getting in! @Rurx7
post up some pics lets see with pump

 

[Rurx7]

yesterday:
Smith bench:

50 for 9

50 for 8

50 for 5



Incline dumbbell press:

27.5 for 6



Pec fly:

82 for 7

82 for 8

82 for 6



Pushups:

17



Barbell bicep curl:

25 for 11

30 for 8

30 for 5

Remembers to track food today so I’ll upload after last meal. Workouts been short lately, exam period = limited time

 

[LevButlerov]

yesterday:
Smith bench:

50 for 9

50 for 8

50 for 5



Incline dumbbell press:

27.5 for 6



Pec fly:

82 for 7

82 for 8

82 for 6



Pushups:

17



Barbell bicep curl:

25 for 11

30 for 8

30 for 5

Remembers to track food today so I’ll upload after last meal. Workouts been short lately, exam period = limited time

waiting on your food

 

[toddthelineman]

The smith machine at my gym is really weird.

Diet is just meat and rice and random assortments of fruit. since im bulking, is it fine if I just eat as much good food as possible, and then just log if I eat bad food? Im not concerned about tracking calories all that much, I just want to get protein in.

Ive done the fitness test ~ passed. and yesteday I finished enlistment ceremony so I just need to train for basic training in Jan (hopefully).

Also ive noticed that I have gotten bigger with a pump, but about the same size without a pump???

It’s best to track the food. I’m not the best about it either because I get busy and lazy. But when I was tracking I was WAY more consistent because I’m holding myself accountable. And I’ve been able to go back and look at my best physique and it was at that time, so I have the receipts!

The vast majority of people, like 95%+ fail at their diets because eating becomes automatic like breathing or using the bathroom. Generally, if you ask someone what they are the day before, they will be pretty wildly inaccurate. And we are not immune to that. Now imagine going back six months to try to remember what you were doing, to collect the data, so that you can adjust your inputs to make a change. It won’t be right.

 

[Rurx7]

waiting on your food

That was yesterday

It’s best to track the food. I’m not the best about it either because I get busy and lazy. But when I was tracking I was WAY more consistent because I’m holding myself accountable. And I’ve been able to go back and look at my best physique and it was at that time, so I have the receipts!

The vast majority of people, like 95%+ fail at their diets because eating becomes automatic like breathing or using the bathroom. Generally, if you ask someone what they are the day before, they will be pretty wildly inaccurate. And we are not immune to that. Now imagine going back six months to try to remember what you were doing, to collect the data, so that you can adjust your inputs to make a change. It won’t be right.

fair enough. tryna lock in

 

[Rurx7]

Yesterday:
Pull-ups:

6

3



Assisted pull-ups:

16 for 7

16 for 5



Shrugs:

32.5 for 13

32.5 for 13

35 for 8



Tbar row:

30 for 9

35 for 6

32.5 for 6



Face pulls:

25 for 13

30 for 7


My pull-ups have gone up a lot. I think at the start I was managing 1-2.

 

[toddthelineman]

My pull-ups have gone up a lot. I think at the start I was managing 1-2.

That’s a really good sign. Pull ups are one of those things, like a vital sign. If a person can do 10+ pull ups, they are generally looking and feeling pretty good fitness wise. Your back does a lot to your whole structure, it definitely affects how the front of your body looks. And your arms. You’ll be up to ten soon. Body adapting nicely

 

[Rurx7]

Yesterday:
Bench:

Warmup

60 for 13

70 for 4

65 for 8



Incline dumbbell press:

30 for 6

30 for 6



Pec fly:

82 for 7

82 for 7

82 for 6



Declined pushups (~30 degrees)

12





went to mcdonalds with my friends, chatpgt said that, that item was the best for protein to calories

 

[LevButlerov]

View attachment 133119
That was yesterday



fair enough. tryna lock in

your diet is really improving! Im impressed but you can add more carbs for sure @Rurx7

 

[LevButlerov]

Yesterday:
Pull-ups:

6

3



Assisted pull-ups:

16 for 7

16 for 5



Shrugs:

32.5 for 13

32.5 for 13

35 for 8



Tbar row:

30 for 9

35 for 6

32.5 for 6



Face pulls:

25 for 13

30 for 7


My pull-ups have gone up a lot. I think at the start I was managing 1-2.

Pull ups perfect add 2 more sets to it keep going

 

[stevesmi]

Yesterday:
Bench:

Warmup

60 for 13

70 for 4

65 for 8



Incline dumbbell press:

30 for 6

30 for 6



Pec fly:

82 for 7

82 for 7

82 for 6



Declined pushups (~30 degrees)

12





went to mcdonalds with my friends, chatpgt said that, that item was the best for protein to calories
View attachment 133414

@Rurx7 definitely an opening to improve a lot on this diet. It's very important that you dial in your diet. Man, I'm not going to sugarcoat it at all. I don't like a lot of the stuff that you put in here. If you simply food prep some burgers, you can eat healthy meals that way.

 

[Mobster]

Yesterday:
Pull-ups:

6

3



Assisted pull-ups:

16 for 7

16 for 5



Shrugs:

32.5 for 13

32.5 for 13

35 for 8



Tbar row:

30 for 9

35 for 6

32.5 for 6



Face pulls:

25 for 13

30 for 7


My pull-ups have gone up a lot. I think at the start I was managing 1-2.

16 will be 16kg OFF of bwt. Right?

 

[2Thick]

Yesterday:
Bench:

Warmup

60 for 13

70 for 4

65 for 8



Incline dumbbell press:

30 for 6

30 for 6



Pec fly:

82 for 7

82 for 7

82 for 6



Declined pushups (~30 degrees)

12





went to mcdonalds with my friends, chatpgt said that, that item was the best for protein to calories
View attachment 133414

Thanks for your honesty on this food for the day. You're never going to get very far though. Consuming fast food from McDonald's or any other place you've got to make your own stuff at home. @Rurx7

 

[Ulter]

Yesterday:
Pull-ups:

6

3



Assisted pull-ups:

16 for 7

16 for 5



Shrugs:

32.5 for 13

32.5 for 13

35 for 8



Tbar row:

30 for 9

35 for 6

32.5 for 6



Face pulls:

25 for 13

30 for 7


My pull-ups have gone up a lot. I think at the start I was managing 1-2.

That's awesome man. Keep pushing on the pull ups. @Rurx7 One step at a time. Pretty sure you'll eventually be able to hit 30 or 40 of them. No problem.

 

[ceo]

Yesterday:
Pull-ups:

6

3



Assisted pull-ups:

16 for 7

16 for 5



Shrugs:

32.5 for 13

32.5 for 13

35 for 8



Tbar row:

30 for 9

35 for 6

32.5 for 6



Face pulls:

25 for 13

30 for 7


My pull-ups have gone up a lot. I think at the start I was managing 1-2.

@Rurx7 bros the shrugs and tbar row are outstanding. it looking good if you ask me. and the face pulls also looking on point

 

[ROIDDERS]

Yesterday:
Bench:

Warmup

60 for 13

70 for 4

65 for 8



Incline dumbbell press:

30 for 6

30 for 6



Pec fly:

82 for 7

82 for 7

82 for 6



Declined pushups (~30 degrees)

12





went to mcdonalds with my friends, chatpgt said that, that item was the best for protein to calories
View attachment 133414

You most definitely have a lot of room to improve your food intake. It's not about your macros, it's about the food quality. Take a look at each thing that you're eating. I don't see very much in there. That's very nutritious. @Rurx7

 

[HarleyGuy]

@Rurx7 Your log is coming along nicely and you're incorporating some much needed changes advised from the Vets and Mods. Your food on Friday looked a lot better vs. those 1500 calorie days you were having. Don't be afraid to up the protein and maybe ask your parents to do you a favour and pick up some whole foods like chicken breast, steaks, pork tenderloin, brown rice, quinoa, fruits/veggies if they will so you can stick to those whole foods. You've had some good food days and some bad food days. I think you can get it dialed in so they're all good food days. Do you have a BBQ? You can cook like 12 chicken breasts and throw them in the fridge. I'd eat all 12 right away but you can get 6 containers and put 2 in each one for example.

You're putting some great effort into logging your workouts let's try and see if you can channel some of that energy into your diet as has been said. Your macros and calories for example on 20Sep were great!

And since August how are you feeling about this now? I'm hoping this has developed a bit more into some higher self esteem because you have earned it at this point with the dedication in your log

Im just going to do all of them Im willing to throw any amount of money at my looks ~ theyre all that really matter in life anyway.

As has been said you don't need to focus on peptides so much or especially gear just yet let's keep this going we got you! And the GHK on it's own isn't as useful I find it was awesome with BPC and TB only if you supplement with high collagen peptides to let it do it's work.

 

[Rurx7]

@Rurx7 definitely an opening to improve a lot on this diet. It's very important that you dial in your diet. Man, I'm not going to sugarcoat it at all. I don't like a lot of the stuff that you put in here. If you simply food prep some burgers, you can eat healthy meals that way.

todd has touched on this a bit in his own life, the awkward situation where he has to explain his diet. I was with some ppl from uni for a society and I didnt really wanna be that one guy ~

16 will be 16kg OFF of bwt. Right?

yep



yesterday:
Carbs are kinda cooked. I read the message about eating more after I had finished dinner

Finished off push day from day before

Smith shoulder press:

Warmup

40 for 8

40 for 3

40 for 6



Rear delt fly:

75 for 8

75 for 7

75 for 6



Side delt raise:

5 for 10

5 for 10

5 for 8



Tricep pulldown rope:

20 for 9

20 for 8

20 for 8


No gym today, Im also fasting as I've been feeling bloated/sluggish

 

[toddthelineman]

todd has touched on this a bit in his own life,

I STILL get people saying “I thought you just eat meat” when they see me eat a slice of pizza at a party. It’s the same people who said that at the last party. I haven’t been a strict carnivore for almost five years

If I did it again I wouldn’t even tell anyone unless it directly affected them. I would just fast and binge meat and say I wasn’t hungry.

I think about this stuff all the time, like the fat lady at the party that thinks I look the way I do because of fake liver king reasons lol, and then she has cognitive dissonance when I eat a donut. I look the way I do because of the cumulative effect of my entire life (of course the gear REALLY put the polish on, put the size on, and the unmistakable accents like delts popping out, and veins, only gear does that). I can eat like shit for a day, a week even, and it will barely effect my look, sometimes I’ll even look better.

But I definitely think you’ve got to get to that point somehow before you can get away with it. I’ve heard that the human body like to create “set points”. Like if you’re 25% body fat, there are homeostatic processes in your body that will constantly adjust to keep you there. So if your energy expenditure goes up, your appetite goes up, even though your body is carrying 10s of thousands of calories around. And if your caloric intake goes down, your body will slow down, literally you will feel lazy, you might even just fidget less and not even realize that your 250 calorie deficit is being absorbed by a lower metabolic rate.

So the trick is to hack your body into keeping a high metabolism in a deficit. This seems true to my experience, even if it was an accident. My whole life I would just eat as much as I could when I was able to and my activity levels are often pretty much maxed out. And when I’m not doing a damn thing I just don’t really eat. And many times I’m forced to exert myself quite a bit when I’m truly hungry, which isn’t great for holding muscle but it forces your mitochondria to be very efficient at making energy. I have lived a pretty extreme lifestyle.

I found a few pictures of myself from riiiiight before I started gear. I had been carnivore for a few years, and was about a year into lifting but had been effectively crippled from injury for the previous five years or so, ummm maybe longer. Maybe eight years but I had been on the mend for two or three.

You can see, I was fit, but no one would have accused me of juicing. Before I was injured I was 195 pounds natty, still with abs. Bigger than I am now and stronger in many ways. In these pics, maybe 165.

 

[AlysiaYeoh]

Good luck with Kapooka! It's great you're tracking everything so meticulously.

 

[stevesmi]

todd has touched on this a bit in his own life, the awkward situation where he has to explain his diet. I was with some ppl from uni for a society and I didnt really wanna be that one guy ~


yep



yesterday:
Carbs are kinda cooked. I read the message about eating more after I had finished dinner
View attachment 134011

Finished off push day from day before

Smith shoulder press:

Warmup

40 for 8

40 for 3

40 for 6



Rear delt fly:

75 for 8

75 for 7

75 for 6



Side delt raise:

5 for 10

5 for 10

5 for 8



Tricep pulldown rope:

20 for 9

20 for 8

20 for 8


No gym today, Im also fasting as I've been feeling bloated/sluggish

been there and done that man. when i was in college the food selection was awful. but its a huge roadblock to your success. that is the 1 thing that you can control more then anything. you can't control things like genetics but you can control what goes into your mouth. and trust me its okay to eat healthy. when we used to go to hooters for lunch working in an office full of dudes i would just go there and order a water and hang out there. other guys were ordering the gut food and i would just pack my own lunch and eat at the office. no shame in that and if they have an issue with that send them to me and i will take care of them lol

 

[LevButlerov]

todd has touched on this a bit in his own life, the awkward situation where he has to explain his diet. I was with some ppl from uni for a society and I didnt really wanna be that one guy ~


yep



yesterday:
Carbs are kinda cooked. I read the message about eating more after I had finished dinner
View attachment 134011

Finished off push day from day before

Smith shoulder press:

Warmup

40 for 8

40 for 3

40 for 6



Rear delt fly:

75 for 8

75 for 7

75 for 6



Side delt raise:

5 for 10

5 for 10

5 for 8



Tricep pulldown rope:

20 for 9

20 for 8

20 for 8


No gym today, Im also fasting as I've been feeling bloated/sluggish

Good level of protein and I see you thinking about diet and training etc its a good thing @Rurx7

The training is good but you need more drop sets there.

When you say fasting, you are eating nothing at all? just water tea or are you eating less?

 

[LevButlerov]

I STILL get people saying “I thought you just eat meat” when they see me eat a slice of pizza at a party. It’s the same people who said that at the last party. I haven’t been a strict carnivore for almost five years

If I did it again I wouldn’t even tell anyone unless it directly affected them. I would just fast and binge meat and say I wasn’t hungry.

I think about this stuff all the time, like the fat lady at the party that thinks I look the way I do because of fake liver king reasons lol, and then she has cognitive dissonance when I eat a donut. I look the way I do because of the cumulative effect of my entire life (of course the gear REALLY put the polish on, put the size on, and the unmistakable accents like delts popping out, and veins, only gear does that). I can eat like shit for a day, a week even, and it will barely effect my look, sometimes I’ll even look better.

But I definitely think you’ve got to get to that point somehow before you can get away with it. I’ve heard that the human body like to create “set points”. Like if you’re 25% body fat, there are homeostatic processes in your body that will constantly adjust to keep you there. So if your energy expenditure goes up, your appetite goes up, even though your body is carrying 10s of thousands of calories around. And if your caloric intake goes down, your body will slow down, literally you will feel lazy, you might even just fidget less and not even realize that your 250 calorie deficit is being absorbed by a lower metabolic rate.

So the trick is to hack your body into keeping a high metabolism in a deficit. This seems true to my experience, even if it was an accident. My whole life I would just eat as much as I could when I was able to and my activity levels are often pretty much maxed out. And when I’m not doing a damn thing I just don’t really eat. And many times I’m forced to exert myself quite a bit when I’m truly hungry, which isn’t great for holding muscle but it forces your mitochondria to be very efficient at making energy. I have lived a pretty extreme lifestyle.

I found a few pictures of myself from riiiiight before I started gear. I had been carnivore for a few years, and was about a year into lifting but had been effectively crippled from injury for the previous five years or so, ummm maybe longer. Maybe eight years but I had been on the mend for two or three.

You can see, I was fit, but no one would have accused me of juicing. Before I was injured I was 195 pounds natty, still with abs. Bigger than I am now and stronger in many ways. In these pics, maybe 165.

You look really good in the pics @toddthelineman real natty, but you're bigger now imo

 

[toddthelineman]

You look really good in the pics @toddthelineman real natty, but you're bigger now imo

Oh yes. 24 pounds heavier

 

[LevButlerov]

Oh yes. 24 pounds heavier

and you look better now imo

 

[Rurx7]

I STILL get people saying “I thought you just eat meat” when they see me eat a slice of pizza at a party. It’s the same people who said that at the last party. I haven’t been a strict carnivore for almost five years

If I did it again I wouldn’t even tell anyone unless it directly affected them. I would just fast and binge meat and say I wasn’t hungry.

I think about this stuff all the time, like the fat lady at the party that thinks I look the way I do because of fake liver king reasons lol, and then she has cognitive dissonance when I eat a donut. I look the way I do because of the cumulative effect of my entire life (of course the gear REALLY put the polish on, put the size on, and the unmistakable accents like delts popping out, and veins, only gear does that). I can eat like shit for a day, a week even, and it will barely effect my look, sometimes I’ll even look better.

But I definitely think you’ve got to get to that point somehow before you can get away with it. I’ve heard that the human body like to create “set points”. Like if you’re 25% body fat, there are homeostatic processes in your body that will constantly adjust to keep you there. So if your energy expenditure goes up, your appetite goes up, even though your body is carrying 10s of thousands of calories around. And if your caloric intake goes down, your body will slow down, literally you will feel lazy, you might even just fidget less and not even realize that your 250 calorie deficit is being absorbed by a lower metabolic rate.

So the trick is to hack your body into keeping a high metabolism in a deficit. This seems true to my experience, even if it was an accident. My whole life I would just eat as much as I could when I was able to and my activity levels are often pretty much maxed out. And when I’m not doing a damn thing I just don’t really eat. And many times I’m forced to exert myself quite a bit when I’m truly hungry, which isn’t great for holding muscle but it forces your mitochondria to be very efficient at making energy. I have lived a pretty extreme lifestyle.

I found a few pictures of myself from riiiiight before I started gear. I had been carnivore for a few years, and was about a year into lifting but had been effectively crippled from injury for the previous five years or so, ummm maybe longer. Maybe eight years but I had been on the mend for two or three.

You can see, I was fit, but no one would have accused me of juicing. Before I was injured I was 195 pounds natty, still with abs. Bigger than I am now and stronger in many ways. In these pics, maybe 165.

ive def learnt the hard way lol that sometimes you need to keep your plans close to your chest ~ people often dont care for nuance.

the set points theory you describe makes sense ig ~ I was stuck at overweight for years until I shocked my body into rapid weightloss by starving, and now I struggle to even consume 300-400g of beef in one sitting, whereas I could eat a whole kg before.

Good luck with Kapooka! It's great you're tracking everything so meticulously.

thanks

been there and done that man. when i was in college the food selection was awful. but its a huge roadblock to your success. that is the 1 thing that you can control more then anything. you can't control things like genetics but you can control what goes into your mouth. and trust me its okay to eat healthy. when we used to go to hooters for lunch working in an office full of dudes i would just go there and order a water and hang out there. other guys were ordering the gut food and i would just pack my own lunch and eat at the office. no shame in that and if they have an issue with that send them to me and i will take care of them lol

Yeah I get what u mean ~ its a learning moment

Good level of protein and I see you thinking about diet and training etc its a good thing @Rurx7

The training is good but you need more drop sets there.

When you say fasting, you are eating nothing at all? just water tea or are you eating less?

When I fast I just eat nothing at all. The minute I start eating, my brain pushes me to eak junk food. Id rather eat nothing than trash

Yesterday:

out and about today without meal prep so I kinda just relied on coles to save me ~ I know its not optimal. is apple juice fine??

Pull-ups:

6

4

3



Assisted pull-ups:

16 for 6

19 for 5



Tbar row:

40 for 6

35 for 6

30 for 8



Face pull:

25 for 13

27 for 8



Shrugs:

35 for 12

35 for 11

35 for 8



Barbell bicep curl:

25 for 13

30 for 8

30 for 7



Chin-up:

4



Hammer curl:

17.5 for 4

15 for 5

12.5 for 5

 

[Rurx7]

I attached photos of fat me, me post starvation diet and then me 1 hour ago. I didn’t realise the change tbh. I’ve been having a lot of people make comments about how I’ve changed a lot which kinda boosts my ego lol ~ but I go to a wog gym so I’m typically the smallest guy there


in the pic you cant really see because of the lighting, but I've developed two vains on my biceps which is cool. Looking back im glad I kinda starved myself even tho its unhealthy, cause going from lean to getting bigger is so much easier

 

[toddthelineman]

I attached photos of fat me, me post starvation diet and then me 1 hour ago. I didn’t realise the change tbh. I’ve been having a lot of people make comments about how I’ve changed a lot which kinda boosts my ego lol ~ but I go to a wog gym so I’m typically the smallest guy there


in the pic you cant really see because of the lighting, but I've developed two vains on my biceps which is cool. Looking back im glad I kinda starved myself even tho its unhealthy, cause going from lean to getting bigger is so much easier

You’ve been working out consistently. And getting stronger.

I don’t love the extreme prolonged deficit and I don’t think you’re getting optimal results from it. Even still, if this is what’s sustainable to you, you’ll keep chipping away and improving and you can adjust when you stall. You’ve got some kind of basic training or boot camp coming up, yeah? You’ll get a lot of structure eating, training, sleeping. And then you’ll be on your own, right? Before too long? Making your own food choices etc.

 

[ballin2504]

Yesterday:
Pull-ups:

6

3



Assisted pull-ups:

16 for 7

16 for 5



Shrugs:

32.5 for 13

32.5 for 13

35 for 8



Tbar row:

30 for 9

35 for 6

32.5 for 6



Face pulls:

25 for 13

30 for 7


My pull-ups have gone up a lot. I think at the start I was managing 1-2.

@Rurx7 can definitely tell you’re getting stronger! Keep after it man

 

[LevButlerov]

When I fast I just eat nothing at all. The minute I start eating, my brain pushes me to eak junk food. Id rather eat nothing than trash

Yesterday:

out and about today without meal prep so I kinda just relied on coles to save me ~ I know its not optimal. is apple juice fine??

Pull-ups:

6

4

3



Assisted pull-ups:

16 for 6

19 for 5



Tbar row:

40 for 6

35 for 6

30 for 8



Face pull:

25 for 13

27 for 8



Shrugs:

35 for 12

35 for 11

35 for 8



Barbell bicep curl:

25 for 13

30 for 8

30 for 7



Chin-up:

4



Hammer curl:

17.5 for 4

15 for 5

12.5 for 5

Good training and the food issue, you have an eating disorder, you're prime candidate for actual GLP1s.
aren't you using peptides now? @Rurx7

 

[LevButlerov]

I attached photos of fat me, me post starvation diet and then me 1 hour ago. I didn’t realise the change tbh. I’ve been having a lot of people make comments about how I’ve changed a lot which kinda boosts my ego lol ~ but I go to a wog gym so I’m typically the smallest guy there


in the pic you cant really see because of the lighting, but I've developed two vains on my biceps which is cool. Looking back im glad I kinda starved myself even tho its unhealthy, cause going from lean to getting bigger is so much easier

Actually the changes are clear in the picture! you're really making progress @Rurx7
I see the last pic you're leaner and bigger, impressive!
you can clearly see muscle there, you see it? I'm sure you feel how training and doing this log has changed you!

@BeMe @HarleyGuy @vanlife_gymbum @toddthelineman @Allupfromhere @Pigsy

 

[Allupfromhere]

I attached photos of fat me, me post starvation diet and then me 1 hour ago. I didn’t realise the change tbh. I’ve been having a lot of people make comments about how I’ve changed a lot which kinda boosts my ego lol ~ but I go to a wog gym so I’m typically the smallest guy there


in the pic you cant really see because of the lighting, but I've developed two vains on my biceps which is cool. Looking back im glad I kinda starved myself even tho its unhealthy, cause going from lean to getting bigger is so much easier

This is why i always favour progress photos over scales. Its a clear indication of where we are at and better mentally too.
Starving yourself might work for short term weight loss bro but if your in this for the long haul we need to look at a better approach

 

[Rurx7]

You’ve been working out consistently. And getting stronger.

I don’t love the extreme prolonged deficit and I don’t think you’re getting optimal results from it. Even still, if this is what’s sustainable to you, you’ll keep chipping away and improving and you can adjust when you stall. You’ve got some kind of basic training or boot camp coming up, yeah? You’ll get a lot of structure eating, training, sleeping. And then you’ll be on your own, right? Before too long? Making your own food choices etc.

since im in the reserves, im gonna be going to boot camp sometime around jan, and its only 3 weeks. australia splits up the other 3 for reservists into modules that are done later. its kind of like the national guard in the US but with training more split up to accomidate civilian lives.

Good training and the food issue, you have an eating disorder, you're prime candidate for actual GLP1s.
aren't you using peptides now? @Rurx7

ive heard that reta can reduce your appetite, but also change what is appetizing? is this true??

Actually the changes are clear in the picture! you're really making progress @Rurx7
I see the last pic you're leaner and bigger, impressive!
you can clearly see muscle there, you see it? I'm sure you feel how training and doing this log has changed you!

@BeMe @HarleyGuy @vanlife_gymbum @toddthelineman @Allupfromhere @Pigsy

thanks ~ log has forced me to lock in

btw when do profile pictures get updated

This is why i always favour progress photos over scales. Its a clear indication of where we are at and better mentally too.
Starving yourself might work for short term weight loss bro but if your in this for the long haul we need to look at a better approach

I would never starve myself again ~ but if you look at the first pic I reccon it was worth it. Back then I was weaker than I am now, just with a lot more fat. so I didnt lose that much muscle given I barely had any, but it made it easier to self motivate for the gym because I could see the results, and was less self conscious doing things like going to the gym or cardio. I know it sounds dumb, but when your overweight it can feel shameful trying to lose weight for some reason ~ and it seems like everyone else in your life wants you to stay fat for some reason as well

@Rurx7 can definitely tell you’re getting stronger! Keep after it man

thanks











something odd I noticed is that my face is leaner now, although I do have more fat than in the second picture? im not sure if all the cardio I have been doing changed where my fat is being stored (what chatgpt suggested) or if my visceral fat has been to some extent replaced by subq fat?

 

[Allupfromhere]

I would never starve myself again ~ but if you look at the first pic I reccon it was worth it. Back then I was weaker than I am now, just with a lot more fat. so I didnt lose that much muscle given I barely had any, but it made it easier to self motivate for the gym because I could see the results, and was less self conscious doing things like going to the gym or cardio. I know it sounds dumb, but when your overweight it can feel shameful trying to lose weight for some reason ~ and it seems like everyone else in your life wants you to stay fat for some reason as well

Brother believe me i understand exactly what your saying and you beat me to it. If there is a way even if it isnt ideal but it allows you to hit a reset button and turn a point in your life where you can begin a journey for your health then im all for it.
We just need to see some results to loght the fire for us to want more changes. Then we built positive, more effective and healthy changes for long term goals. This end up become a lifestyle we love of self progress and challenge and that is what makes it all worth it.


Believe me i truely understand this.

16 months ago i was 117kg and more then 35% bf.

I made the same change that has got me where i am now. Evo took me the whole way, i promise you are in the right place here.
We got your back no matter what brother, cant wait to see you really light this mfer up

 

[LevButlerov]

ive heard that reta can reduce your appetite, but also change what is appetizing? is this true??

you mean the food? dont worry about appetizing lol worry about bootcamp coming! @Rurx7

thanks ~ log has forced me to lock in

btw when do profile pictures get updated

good to hear, this log has really transformed you will check on your pics

 

[Rurx7]

yesterday:

no gym, studying my midterms are done this friday, so I have to hiatus from the gym until then

 

[LevButlerov]

yesterday:
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no gym, studying my midterms are done this friday, so I have to hiatus from the gym until then

You can do 100 push ups and squats at home no need gym, you follow? @Rurx7
add some carbs yams sweet potatoes when you study

 

[Rurx7]

You can do 100 push ups and squats at home no need gym, you follow? @Rurx7
add some carbs yams sweet potatoes when you study

If I do a bunch of push-ups on my rest days, will that make me less effective in the gym?
And for carbs, can I just load up on fruit instead? Is there a point where the benefits drop off as fruit intake increases because of the sugar content? I've read that high sugar content can lower test ~ at least acutely that is
wearechief.com/blogs/articles/does-sugar-lower-testosterone
What is ur thoughts on stuff like this ~ is it better to avoid sugar before/after workout to keep test elevated to help with recovery or this that stupid?

 

[LevButlerov]

If I do a bunch of push-ups on my rest days, will that make me less effective in the gym?
And for carbs, can I just load up on fruit instead? Is there a point where the benefits drop off as fruit intake increases because of the sugar content? I've read that high sugar content can lower test ~ at least acutely that is
What is ur thoughts on stuff like this ~ is it better to avoid sugar before/after workout to keep test elevated to help with recovery or this that stupid?

Push ups on rest days are fine if you keep them light and short, just stop before fatigue so recovery isn’t interrupted. Think 3-4 sets of 15-20 at most. and you need to do them before your military anyhow @Rurx7

Fruit is fine for carbs but keep total sugar moderate, around 80-100g daily.
Sugar before or after training won’t hurt test levels, insulin response actually helps recovery and glycogen refill. And always matters what sugar, if you pumping some coca cola its different then honey and fruit.

 

[Rurx7]

I did the pushups and integrated fruit as suggested


trying to integrate more whole foods

 

[LevButlerov]

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I did the pushups and integrated fruit as suggested


trying to integrate more whole foods

Good higher protein and clean carbs @Rurx7
besides push ups you can do planks and sissy squats to start

 

[Mobster]

Push ups on rest days are fine if you keep them light and short, just stop before fatigue so recovery isn’t interrupted. Think 3-4 sets of 15-20 at most. and you need to do them before your military anyhow @Rurx7

Fruit is fine for carbs but keep total sugar moderate, around 80-100g daily.
Sugar before or after training won’t hurt test levels, insulin response actually helps recovery and glycogen refill. And always matters what sugar, if you pumping some coca cola its different then honey and fruit.

Lev is correct. If it impinges into recovery don't do it

But I'd f**k sugar off. He wants to be be leaner and it'd be much better with a good carb source (oatmeal flapjack)

 

[stevesmi]

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I did the pushups and integrated fruit as suggested


trying to integrate more whole foods

@Rurx7 100% fantastic job on these meals. Every single thing you put in your body is a whole food option and clean. You keep this up and you will see amazing results both in and out of your body.

 

[ceo]

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I did the pushups and integrated fruit as suggested


trying to integrate more whole foods

bros that good setup. my wife asian she always feeding me fruits and veggies too. they good for you good vitamins @Rurx7

 

[ROIDDERS]

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I did the pushups and integrated fruit as suggested


trying to integrate more whole foods

You are looking outstanding on this. @Rurx7 I've got a lot of love for the food that you're putting together. You took our constructive criticism and you've definitely taken things to the next level. The food is 100% improved.

 

[2Thick]

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I did the pushups and integrated fruit as suggested


trying to integrate more whole foods

@Rurx7 This is a very nice job on the food. Also, I'm glad to seeing that you're including the push ups. You can try putting a weight on your back to give you some added resistance.

 

[Ulter]

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I did the pushups and integrated fruit as suggested


trying to integrate more whole foods

If you eat that sort of meals every day, you'll do great. You've got the right amount of protein, carbs and fats in there. Maybe add some raw nuts as well if you want some extra fats. @Rurx7

 

[Tiger Salman Khan]

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I did the pushups and integrated fruit as suggested


trying to integrate more whole foods

@Rurx7 Updates look awesome bro....

 

[toddthelineman]

yesterday:
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no gym, studying my midterms are done this friday, so I have to hiatus from the gym until then

You can hit your legs quick and hard with lunges. Or if you can find some good stairs conveniently, run up and down two at a time for however long you can. I did stairs daily when I was in jail and I went from medium boxers to extra large to fit my legs. In 100 days. Body weight stuff can give you a lot of results.

 

[Rurx7]

sorry for no updates ~ theres been a family thing come up that has taken my attention away from the forums

 

[LevButlerov]

sorry for no updates ~ theres been a family thing come up that has taken my attention away from the forums

are you ok? what happened? @Rurx7

 

[Rurx7]

are you ok? what happened? @Rurx7

just had to pick up some more responsibilities with my niece because my sister hasnt been able for a short period, distracted me from logging. Thats all sorted now so I can get back to it.

 

[LevButlerov]

just had to pick up some more responsibilities with my niece because my sister hasnt been able for a short period, distracted me from logging. Thats all sorted now so I can get back to it.

good to hear you're back