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Hey folks what is the real low down on oral Winstrol and dianabol for clearance and non detect times. Also once stopped cypionate or enanthate - how long before detection time and normal base lines. A lot of bullshit out there - as always just seeking the truth - thank you in advance !!
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Well depends on whose testing and how i guess. Are we talking doctors(blood, legal(urine) or WADA(both).
Take all this with a grain of salt, as i just looked into it and not for long.
The only reason for legal style blood work like probation/court etc to test for t/e ratio or carbon isotope to check for aas is if its a court case regarding steroids or a doctor gas requested it because of steroud abuse. (Take this with a grain of salt and look into it concerming your country and region.)
WADA uses both urine and bloodwork to test. The urine test is for t/e ratio and carbon isotope. Your looking at
Test e/c 2-3+ months detectable
Winstrol 1.5-2+ months detectable
Dianabol 1-1.5+ months detectable
Remember your metabolism makes a difference in non detect time and stacking compounds or longer durations will increase non detect and clearance timing.
Reg doctor bloodwork. They generally dont check hormones but i suppose cbc and lipids would be suspicious to a doctor.
Test e/c
Total t - baseline around 4 weeks.
Lh/fsh - baselibe in 1-3 months
E2 - baseline 2-3 weeks
Hematocrit/hemoglobin - 1-2months elevated
Winstrol
Alt/ast - baseline in 3-6 weeks
Lipids - baseline in 4-8+ weeks
Dianabol
Alt/ast - baseline 2-4weeks
lipids - baseline 4-8 weeks
Not WADA but definitely a competition test. Urine and plasma. Not worried about the plasma but want to give urine a good window.
Assume max window plus a week or 2 for max safety net.
great post man. This is definitely a good baseline to take a look at.
Thanks man.
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Straight answer, clearance is not the same as testing negative, but for rough drug clearance oral Winstrol is about a 9 hour half life so most is gone in around 2 days, and Dbol is about a 3-6 hour half life so most is gone in about 1-2 days.
Test cypionate has about an 8 day IM half life so you are usually looking at roughly 5-6 weeks to clear, and test enanthate is around 4 day IM half life so roughly 3-4 weeks to mostly clear.
Getting back to your own normal baseline is slower than clearance and is usually measured in months, keep this in mind they can just test your levels without testing for the compound. @Pshumake01
That suggests we've not covered it truthfully here.
I'll assume this is a testing issue. It's got better and better and you're far more likely to get caught now
Correct - testing issue - just trying to figure a reasonable point of when to stop to allow enough time to clear the screening. Baseline testing not used unless a screen hits or test levels are too high. Is screen clears and levels are somewhat normal - all good. Main concern is metabolites on oral Winstrol- timeframe on clearance and that will be urine testing. All help or experience appreciated.
At the end of the day if you're going to cheat then you better make sure that you're willing to eat the consequences.
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it really depends what you're being tested for, high level sports you'll get caught, some local show wont be an issue
@Pshumake01 can you tell us more please?
The trouble with this is the way it's measured. I'd always say start with the half lives. Yet you'll see too many different numbers.
Issues are the difference between athletes in how they process PEDs, condition, bodyfat and age.
The simplest answer is take the LONGEST time as what you need if being tested. Testing, however, will look for metabolites (so residue) of used and processed steroids as evidence of use. WADA testing on MMA athletes has seen sample B retested two years after the fact and getting the athletes banned.
Issues are the difference between athletes in how they process PEDs, condition, bodyfat and age.
The simplest answer is take the LONGEST time as what you need if being tested. Testing, however, will look for metabolites (so residue) of used and processed steroids as evidence of use. WADA testing on MMA athletes has seen sample B retested two years after the fact and getting the athletes banned.
I would take the clearance times that you see and add two to three weeks to it just to be sure. Why are you going to cheat just through a regular competition?
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