Problem with 1st UGFREAK.to order

[Daxman23]

Are there any UGFREAK reps in this forum? I received my 1st order yesterday after being a NAPS customer the past 8-9 years. I wanted to try a new source after the NAPS and ULTIMA lab debacle… which NAPS did make right with me but it took 5+ weeks but anyways……

I received my first para pharma order from UGFREAK yesterday. I ordered 5 test cyp 250mg vials and 3 tren ace vials. When I opened it up I got what is labeled as 5 test E250 vials and 3 tren ace vials. First, the ester on the test is the wrong kind…. 2nd it looks nothing like test…. All 8 vials look like tren if you ask me lol. So I’m unsure of what I got. I’ve sent a few messages to UGFREAK but haven’t gotten a response yet from the order department. I’ll attatch photos. I’d appreciate if a UGFREAK rep would reach out to me please.

Thanks bros!

 

[floridaman1984]

Are there any UGFREAK reps in this forum? I received my 1st order yesterday after being a NAPS customer the past 8-9 years. I wanted to try a new source after the NAPS and ULTIMA lab debacle… which NAPS did make right with me but it took 5+ weeks but anyways……

I received my first para pharma order from UGFREAK yesterday. I ordered 5 test cyp 250mg vials and 3 tren ace vials. When I opened it up I got what is labeled as 5 test E250 vials and 3 tren ace vials. First, the ester on the test is the wrong kind…. 2nd it looks nothing like test…. All 8 vials look like tren if you ask me lol. So I’m unsure of what I got. I’ve sent a few messages to UGFREAK but haven’t gotten a response yet from the order department. I’ll attatch photos. I’d appreciate if a UGFREAK rep would reach out to me please.

Thanks bros!

Parapharma addressed the color a while back. It's from the raws.

https://parapharma.org/news/testo-e-250-color

 

[floridaman1984]

@Quadsweep

 

[Daxman23]

Parapharma addressed the color a while back. It's from the raws.

https://parapharma.org/news/testo-e-250-color

Well, I also ordered cypionate…. Not enanthate… so there’s that issue as well…. Although I know they are interchangeable…. I’d prefer to have what I ordered and paid for

 

[Daxman23]

Parapharma addressed the color a while back. It's from the raws.

https://parapharma.org/news/testo-e-250-color

Thank you for addressing the color issue. I appreciate it!

 

[floridaman1984]

Thank you for addressing the color issue. I appreciate it!

No worries

 

[LevButlerov]

Are there any UGFREAK reps in this forum? I received my 1st order yesterday after being a NAPS customer the past 8-9 years. I wanted to try a new source after the NAPS and ULTIMA lab debacle… which NAPS did make right with me but it took 5+ weeks but anyways……

I received my first para pharma order from UGFREAK yesterday. I ordered 5 test cyp 250mg vials and 3 tren ace vials. When I opened it up I got what is labeled as 5 test E250 vials and 3 tren ace vials. First, the ester on the test is the wrong kind…. 2nd it looks nothing like test…. All 8 vials look like tren if you ask me lol. So I’m unsure of what I got. I’ve sent a few messages to UGFREAK but haven’t gotten a response yet from the order department. I’ll attatch photos. I’d appreciate if a UGFREAK rep would reach out to me please.

Thanks bros!

welcome to the EVO family @Daxman23 The color issue was address here below
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/ugfreak-para-pharma-orange-test-e.107493

but the esters no different, cyp and enan are the same tbh

Well, I also ordered cypionate…. Not enanthate… so there’s that issue as well…. Although I know they are interchangeable…. I’d prefer to have what I ordered and paid for

what is your full cycle plan?

@Quadsweep

 

[Quadsweep]

Are there any UGFREAK reps in this forum? I received my 1st order yesterday after being a NAPS customer the past 8-9 years. I wanted to try a new source after the NAPS and ULTIMA lab debacle… which NAPS did make right with me but it took 5+ weeks but anyways……

I received my first para pharma order from UGFREAK yesterday. I ordered 5 test cyp 250mg vials and 3 tren ace vials. When I opened it up I got what is labeled as 5 test E250 vials and 3 tren ace vials. First, the ester on the test is the wrong kind…. 2nd it looks nothing like test…. All 8 vials look like tren if you ask me lol. So I’m unsure of what I got. I’ve sent a few messages to UGFREAK but haven’t gotten a response yet from the order department. I’ll attatch photos. I’d appreciate if a UGFREAK rep would reach out to me please.

Thanks bros!

hey so the color is just color. don't worry about that

as far as the E vs. cyp issue, that is something you can reach out to them about. you sure you ordered cyp ?

 

[ceo]

Are there any UGFREAK reps in this forum? I received my 1st order yesterday after being a NAPS customer the past 8-9 years. I wanted to try a new source after the NAPS and ULTIMA lab debacle… which NAPS did make right with me but it took 5+ weeks but anyways……

I received my first para pharma order from UGFREAK yesterday. I ordered 5 test cyp 250mg vials and 3 tren ace vials. When I opened it up I got what is labeled as 5 test E250 vials and 3 tren ace vials. First, the ester on the test is the wrong kind…. 2nd it looks nothing like test…. All 8 vials look like tren if you ask me lol. So I’m unsure of what I got. I’ve sent a few messages to UGFREAK but haven’t gotten a response yet from the order department. I’ll attatch photos. I’d appreciate if a UGFREAK rep would reach out to me please.

Thanks bros!

Bros, I agree with you they should have sent you what you ordered, but at the end of the day sometimes there are stock issues so they'll send you something very similar. Really, no difference between E and CYP. They are the same thing.

 

[Daxman23]

hey so the color is just color. don't worry about that

as far as the E vs. cyp issue, that is something you can reach out to them about. you sure you ordered cyp ?

Yes I am sure I ordered cyp. I messaged them a few times. Hopefully they reply.

 

[Daxman23]

welcome to the EVO family @Daxman23 The color issue was address here below
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/ugfreak-para-pharma-orange-test-e.107493

but the esters no different, cyp and enan are the same tbh

what is your full cycle plan?

@Quadsweep

Been on a cruise of 200mg test cyp the past 3 months. All bloodwork is great now. I plan to run 500mg test cypionate, 350mg primo, 4 IU HGH for 16 weeks, then incorporate 200mg of tren ace for the last 6 weeks to finish off the 16 weeks. I’ve got a stockpile luckily of pharmaqo primo 175mg lol. Hopefully UGFREAK will make this right.

 

[Daxman23]

Bros, I agree with you they should have sent you what you ordered, but at the end of the day sometimes there are stock issues so they'll send you something very similar. Really, no difference between E and CYP. They are the same thing.

I agree, I just prefer cypionate. If there was no stock I wish they would have reach out, I would have went with dragon instead of para pharma. They carry both brands and both labs had both items in stock. Hopefully they will make it right!

 

[LevButlerov]

Yes I am sure I ordered cyp. I messaged them a few times. Hopefully they reply.

its possible the test cyp out and they sent enanthate, tbh its the same ester and I like enanthate better way less pip and better half life @Daxman23

 

[LevButlerov]

Been on a cruise of 200mg test cyp the past 3 months. All bloodwork is great now.

nice I like self TRT which is a cruise please share your bloods with the EVO family just blur personal info @Daxman23 interested to see

I plan to run 500mg test cypionate, 350mg primo, 4 IU HGH for 16 weeks, then incorporate 200mg of tren ace for the last 6 weeks to finish off the 16 weeks. I’ve got a stockpile luckily of pharmaqo primo 175mg lol. Hopefully UGFREAK will make this right.

this is a good cycle, but on tren you should do 10mgs ed pins subq least sides on that dose tbh, and you plan on using clen?

 

[Daxman23]

nice I like self TRT which is a cruise please share your bloods with the EVO family just blur personal info @Daxman23 interested to see


this is a good cycle, but on tren you should do 10mgs ed pins subq least sides on that dose tbh, and you plan on using clen?

No clen, I don’t do well with stimulants. I do ED pins with everything on a blast. Prefer micro dosing for more stable levels. I’ll see if I can find my bloodwork. I had it done last month. My PCP is great and orders it for me 3-4 times a year whenever I ask her too. I’m transparent with her. She says if you’re gonna be dumb, be as smart about it as possible lol. Insurance pays for it. I have paper copies of results mailed to me. I’ll see if I can dig them up.

 

[LevButlerov]

No clen, I don’t do well with stimulants. I do ED pins with everything on a blast. Prefer micro dosing for more stable levels. I’ll see if I can find my bloodwork. I had it done last month. My PCP is great and orders it for me 3-4 times a year whenever I ask her too. I’m transparent with her. She says if you’re gonna be dumb, be as smart about it as possible lol. Insurance pays for it. I have paper copies of results mailed to me. I’ll see if I can dig them up.

yes some guys dont like clen fair @Daxman23

please find the bloods its important to see ahead a bit and see how you are on bloods

on the TRT you saying you on doctor trt or self?

 

[Mobster]

Well, I also ordered cypionate…. Not enanthate… so there’s that issue as well…. Although I know they are interchangeable…. I’d prefer to have what I ordered and paid for

We know. We read the previous post. Wait until the source or their rep responds

 

[Mobster]

nice I like self TRT which is a cruise please share your bloods with the EVO family just blur personal info @Daxman23 interested to see


this is a good cycle, but on tren you should do 10mgs ed pins subq least sides on that dose tbh, and you plan on using clen?

TRT is for life. A cruise is not

 

[2Thick]

Yes I am sure I ordered cyp. I messaged them a few times. Hopefully they reply.

sounds like a mixup on the senders end. maybe at the warehouse.

 

[ROIDDERS]

Are there any UGFREAK reps in this forum? I received my 1st order yesterday after being a NAPS customer the past 8-9 years. I wanted to try a new source after the NAPS and ULTIMA lab debacle… which NAPS did make right with me but it took 5+ weeks but anyways……

I received my first para pharma order from UGFREAK yesterday. I ordered 5 test cyp 250mg vials and 3 tren ace vials. When I opened it up I got what is labeled as 5 test E250 vials and 3 tren ace vials. First, the ester on the test is the wrong kind…. 2nd it looks nothing like test…. All 8 vials look like tren if you ask me lol. So I’m unsure of what I got. I’ve sent a few messages to UGFREAK but haven’t gotten a response yet from the order department. I’ll attatch photos. I’d appreciate if a UGFREAK rep would reach out to me please.

Thanks bros!

The test E does have that orange color but it's been tested at 99% pure

 

[Ulter]

Are there any UGFREAK reps in this forum? I received my 1st order yesterday after being a NAPS customer the past 8-9 years. I wanted to try a new source after the NAPS and ULTIMA lab debacle… which NAPS did make right with me but it took 5+ weeks but anyways……

I received my first para pharma order from UGFREAK yesterday. I ordered 5 test cyp 250mg vials and 3 tren ace vials. When I opened it up I got what is labeled as 5 test E250 vials and 3 tren ace vials. First, the ester on the test is the wrong kind…. 2nd it looks nothing like test…. All 8 vials look like tren if you ask me lol. So I’m unsure of what I got. I’ve sent a few messages to UGFREAK but haven’t gotten a response yet from the order department. I’ll attatch photos. I’d appreciate if a UGFREAK rep would reach out to me please.

Thanks bros!

Reach out to them. I'm sure they will make this right for you.

 

[Daxman23]

yes some guys dont like clen fair @Daxman23

please find the bloods its important to see ahead a bit and see how you are on bloods

on the TRT you saying you on doctor trt or self?

Reach out to them. I'm sure they will make this right for you.

I did, but haven’t gotten a response yet. It was just on Thursday… 2 days before a weekend. I’ll keep this post updated.

 

[Daxman23]

The test E does have that orange color but it's been tested at 99% pure

Yeah someone else posted the statement para pharma released, along with their JANOSHIK testing of the exact batch. I appreciate it though!

 

[Daxman23]

Reach out to them. I'm sure they will make this right for you.

I’d just like to get what I ordered and paid for at this point though.

 

[Mobster]

I’d just like to get what I ordered and paid for at this point though.

And return the error too

 

[Daxman23]

And return the error too

Huh? Not sure what ya meant here.

 

[Mobster]

Huh? Not sure what ya meant here.

They send you what you ordered (test c) and you return the stuff they sent by mistake (test e).

You MIGHT get lucky and they say keep it. Or they offer a credit. Or a credit against the shipping back of the test e. Might be in their T&C. Worth a look. Let's see what happens.

On the forum rep thing. You'll still need to wait on the rep contacting the company directly and getting a reply. You might get a reply in the meantime too

 

[Daxman23]

They send you what you ordered (test c) and you return the stuff they sent by mistake (test e).

You MIGHT get lucky and they say keep it. Or they offer a credit. Or a credit against the shipping back of the test e. Might be in their T&C. Worth a look. Let's see what happens.

On the forum rep thing. You'll still need to wait on the rep contacting the company directly and getting a reply. You might get a reply in the meantime too

Yeah, I know I got lucky with naps rep on here during the entire Ultima disaster when I received a dozen test vials that were vitamin C. Naps did make it right and jasonhill messaged me back and forth and after being ignored for 2-3 weeks…. After I was able to speak with him on here via private message…. Napshelp responded within 2 days to solve my problem. I was hoping maybe I’d get lucky here with UGFREAK being a certified supplier here as well. If they want it back I’ll send it back to them no worries. I know when something has happened with naps they just tell you to keep it. I’ll keep everyone updated. I know UGFREAK is just the middle man supplier. It was an international order so it’s on para pharma really…. Not them.

 

[ballin2504]

I’m sure they will take care of you man.

 

[LevButlerov]

I did, but haven’t gotten a response yet. It was just on Thursday… 2 days before a weekend. I’ll keep this post updated.

can you screen shot please who you emailed @Daxman23

 

[Daxman23]

can you screen shot please who you emailed @Daxman23

I went to their website under the contact us tab. Then chose the order department. I also replied under the my order details section. I tried both ways.

 

[Daxman23]

can you screen shot please who you emailed @Daxman23

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[LevButlerov]

e

was the ticket created?

 

[Daxman23]

was the ticket created?

As far as I know. I clicked to submit it after entering my order # and writing a brief description of the issue.

 

[Mobster]

Yeah, I know I got lucky with naps rep on here during the entire Ultima disaster when I received a dozen test vials that were vitamin C. Naps did make it right and jasonhill messaged me back and forth and after being ignored for 2-3 weeks…. After I was able to speak with him on here via private message…. Napshelp responded within 2 days to solve my problem. I was hoping maybe I’d get lucky here with UGFREAK being a certified supplier here as well. If they want it back I’ll send it back to them no worries. I know when something has happened with naps they just tell you to keep it. I’ll keep everyone updated. I know UGFREAK is just the middle man supplier. It was an international order so it’s on para pharma really…. Not them.

Great stuff. Hopefully today you'll hear something back

 

[ceo]

I agree, I just prefer cypionate. If there was no stock I wish they would have reach out, I would have went with dragon instead of para pharma. They carry both brands and both labs had both items in stock. Hopefully they will make it right!

Bros, hopefully you can put up a log and we can see what you're doing. Let us know what they say.

 

[ROIDDERS]

Yeah someone else posted the statement para pharma released, along with their JANOSHIK testing of the exact batch. I appreciate it though!

Okay just wanted to make sure in case others see it.

 

[LevButlerov]

As far as I know. I clicked to submit it after entering my order # and writing a brief description of the issue.

any email or ticket confirmation?

 

[Ulter]

They send you what you ordered (test c) and you return the stuff they sent by mistake (test e).

You MIGHT get lucky and they say keep it. Or they offer a credit. Or a credit against the shipping back of the test e. Might be in their T&C. Worth a look. Let's see what happens.

On the forum rep thing. You'll still need to wait on the rep contacting the company directly and getting a reply. You might get a reply in the meantime too

highly unlikely a source is going to allow something like that to happen. That's too much of a security risk.

 

[Mobster]

highly unlikely a source is going to allow something like that to happen. That's too much of a security risk.

That does make sense

 

[Daxman23]

any email or ticket confirmation?

I believe after I submitted it it came up on the screen but I don’t believe they send email confirmation

 

[Daxman23]

any email or ticket confirmation?

I created another ticket just now, in case the first one didn’t go through. I screen shotted it this time as well.

 

[Tiger Salman Khan]

they'll respond as soon as they see your message......

 

[LevButlerov]

I created another ticket just now, in case the first one didn’t go through. I screen shotted it this time as well.

ok lets give them time to respond @Daxman23 @Quadsweep please check with @ugfreak

 

[Quadsweep]

I created another ticket just now, in case the first one didn’t go through. I screen shotted it this time as well.

I am forwarding this as well to their head of customer service. it will be investigated thanks for your patience

 

[Daxman23]

I am forwarding this as well to their head of customer service. it will be investigated thanks for your patience

Thanks a bunch. Love this forum. Everyone is always a ton of help and support! I’ll keep everyone updated!

 

[LevButlerov]

Thanks a bunch. Love this forum. Everyone is always a ton of help and support! I’ll keep everyone updated!

happy to see you enjoying EVO family @Daxman23 when is your log going up?

 

[Daxman23]

I am forwarding this as well to their head of customer service. it will be investigated thanks for your patience

I received a reply today to both the help ticket submitted, as well as the 2 comments I made under the order history tab. The first reply to the help ticket they didn’t even address my question or concern. They only recommended I post to the order history part for issues with an order. They were kind of smart ass if you ask me and blew me off in a way. …. UGFREAK also responded as well today under the order history tab. It seems like through their response they are trying to push me into keeping the enanthate, or hoping I just take the enanthate and offered some credit for my troubles and the mix up. I replied and said to be honest… I’d rather just have what I ordered and paid for….. so we will continue to wait and see what happens.

Attatching screen shots of messages:

 

[LevButlerov]

I received a reply today to both the help ticket submitted, as well as the 2 comments I made under the order history tab. The first reply to the help ticket they didn’t even address my question or concern. They only recommended I post to the order history part for issues with an order. They were kind of smart ass if you ask me and blew me off in a way. …. UGFREAK also responded as well today under the order history tab. It seems like through their response they are trying to push me into keeping the enanthate, or hoping I just take the enanthate and offered some credit for my troubles and the mix up. I replied and said to be honest… I’d rather just have what I ordered and paid for….. so we will continue to wait and see what happens.

Attatching screen shots of messages:

so you're happy with the response? @Daxman23

 

[Daxman23]

so you're happy with the response? @Daxman23

Not really…. Haven’t gotten a reply back yet after telling them I’d rather just have what I ordered originally. Continuing to wait to see how it plays out.

 

[LevButlerov]

Not really…. Haven’t gotten a reply back yet after telling them I’d rather just have what I ordered originally. Continuing to wait to see how it plays out.

lets give them a bit of time I hope they resolve @Quadsweep check

 

[Daxman23]

lets give them a bit of time I hope they resolve @Quadsweep check

Received this reply today. I’ll continue to update the post until completely resolved. So far we are on the right track to getting the problem resolved, and I’d like to thank everyone for the responses and help/input. Thanks especially to @Quadsweep ! Like I said I’ll continue updating until problem is completely resolved. This made me a little happier today.

 

[LevButlerov]

Received this reply today. I’ll continue to update the post until completely resolved. So far we are on the right track to getting the problem resolved, and I’d like to thank everyone for the responses and help/input. Thanks especially to @Quadsweep ! Like I said I’ll continue updating until problem is completely resolved. This made me a little happier today.

I hope you resolve it fast any updates again?

 

[Daxman23]

I hope you resolve it fast any updates again?

That’s from today. That’s the latest response I’ve gotten.

 

[LevButlerov]

That’s from today. That’s the latest response I’ve gotten.

lts give him 48 hours i'll tag @Quadsweep here

 

[Quadsweep]

Received this reply today. I’ll continue to update the post until completely resolved. So far we are on the right track to getting the problem resolved, and I’d like to thank everyone for the responses and help/input. Thanks especially to @Quadsweep ! Like I said I’ll continue updating until problem is completely resolved. This made me a little happier today.

Sounds like you ended up with free gear. Glad to hear it worked out

 

[Daxman23]

I received a reply from them today. They reshipped the corrected order of test cyp and provided tracking. They also told me how to submit photos to them which I also did for them. I will update this post also once the reshipment arrives. So far, everyone here has been of great help as always, and UGFREAK has been of great help as well. Took them a bit, but they did seem to correct the issue for me. I’ll keep everyone updated once the reshipment arrives.

 

[floridaman1984]

I received a reply from them today. They reshipped the corrected order of test cyp and provided tracking. They also told me how to submit photos to them which I also did for them. I will update this post also once the reshipment arrives. So far, everyone here has been of great help as always, and UGFREAK has been of great help as well. Took them a bit, but they did seem to correct the issue for me. I’ll keep everyone updated once the reshipment arrives.

Awesome. Ive done lots of business with UGFREAK. I knew they'd get you taken care of.

Let me know if you need to dispose of that test e lol.

 

[Daxman23]

Awesome. Ive done lots of business with UGFREAK. I knew they'd get you taken care of.

Let me know if you need to dispose of that test e lol.

If you weren’t about 12 hours from me, no problem lol. I’m sure someone I know locally will want it.

 

[LevButlerov]

I received a reply from them today. They reshipped the corrected order of test cyp and provided tracking. They also told me how to submit photos to them which I also did for them. I will update this post also once the reshipment arrives. So far, everyone here has been of great help as always, and UGFREAK has been of great help as well. Took them a bit, but they did seem to correct the issue for me. I’ll keep everyone updated once the reshipment arrives.

perfect can you post up the reply please @Daxman23 blur tracking

 

[Daxman23]

perfect can you post up the reply please @Daxman23 blur tracking

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[LevButlerov]

e

no answer after?

 

[Daxman23]

no answer after?

The blurred out part is the tracking number for the reshipment. I submitted photos to them just so they could see I wasn’t trying to BS them. This is the latest messages between me and UGFREAK.

 

[LevButlerov]

The blurred out part is the tracking number for the reshipment. I submitted photos to them just so they could see I wasn’t trying to BS them. This is the latest messages between me and UGFREAK.

i see so you got it is it tracking yet?

 

[Daxman23]

i see so you got it is it tracking yet?

No just generated. Won’t update more than likely for a few weeks when it hits stateside

 

[LevButlerov]

No just generated. Won’t update more than likely for a few weeks when it hits stateside

lets wait a few days
lets discuss your diet training supps meanwhile, you on trt?

 

[Daxman23]

lets wait a few days
lets discuss your diet training supps meanwhile, you on trt?

Diet right now is maintenance calories 3200. 250g protein, 300g carbs, 75-100g fats. I weigh all my food post cooked. Eating more red meat during lower calorie maintenance to be satiated with less food from more fat content.

Training is 3 Days, rest day…. 2 days… rest day…. Chest, arms, back…. Rest…. Shoulders, legs…. Rest day. Progressive overload to failure with assisted reps.

Supplements are Telmisartan 80mg, and proscribed from my PCP…. CoQ10, fish oil, NAC, TUDCA, multivitamins, P5P “when tren will be in cycle at end”, b6, zinc, potassium, magnesium, creatine, protein shakes when I don’t have opportunity to eat a meal…. I try for real food absolutely as much as possible and this is last resort.

 

[Daxman23]

lets wait a few days
lets discuss your diet training supps meanwhile, you on trt?

And yes, I’m on self TRT. I “blast and cruise”. The past 3 months almost 4 now I have been on 150mg test cyp weekly, and 4 IU HGH nightly.

 

[LevButlerov]

Diet right now is maintenance calories 3200. 250g protein, 300g carbs, 75-100g fats. I weigh all my food post cooked. Eating more red meat during lower calorie maintenance to be satiated with less food from more fat content.

Training is 3 Days, rest day…. 2 days… rest day…. Chest, arms, back…. Rest…. Shoulders, legs…. Rest day. Progressive overload to failure with assisted reps.

Supplements are Telmisartan 80mg, and proscribed from my PCP…. CoQ10, fish oil, NAC, TUDCA, multivitamins, P5P “when tren will be in cycle at end”, b6, zinc, potassium, magnesium, creatine, protein shakes when I don’t have opportunity to eat a meal…. I try for real food absolutely as much as possible and this is last resort.

And yes, I’m on self TRT. I “blast and cruise”. The past 3 months almost 4 now I have been on 150mg test cyp weekly, and 4 IU HGH nightly.

i saw your banner pic thats you? you look good @Daxman23 please post the pic here face blurred so we understand your base
btw cyp and hgh is TRT+ one of the best combo!
You need a TRT log up now because you are not on simple TRT, you are self cruising on 150mg test with 4 IU HGH and talking about tren later, so the EVO family needs real tracking before you blast again.

Post the log with bodyweight, calories, protein carbs fats, training weights, sleep, BP, HGH timing, pin days, full bloods, glucose, lipids and CBC, because without that EVO family cant tell if your maintenance, recovery, BP, hematocrit or insulin sensitivity is actually in a good place. 15min of your time to start a TRT log and you will change your life!

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• Please post a Log Journal asap for us

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https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/forums/anabolic-steroids-and-peds.2/
top RIGHT, you see: +POST THREAD
click that

in Title: write your cycle name, like> My _____ Cycle Log
___ = the name of your log
example: My TRT HGH Log
in body: write your planned cycle or cycle you doing now, your diet, training and we will help you along on your cycle

here are examples of LOG Journals
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/first-testosterone-cycle-log.104133/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/sustanon-trenomast-deca-dbol-cycle-journal.105881/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/s-gentz-2025-26-growth-phase-log-with-psl.106514/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...var-bpc157-beligas-pharmaqo-cycle-log.104843/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...g-log-sponsored-by-purity-source-labs.103669/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...erone-cycle-and-beginner-training-log.106310/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/average-trt-back-to-savage-cycle-journal.106252
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...-testosterone-masteron-primobolan-deca.105348
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...odybuilding-log-masters-55-competitor.102611/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...ron-npp-tren-anadrol-log-to-stage-2025.102590

P.S. are you listening to our podcast? if not, you should; this podcast is about steroids, sarms, peptides, and bodybuilding:
https://www.evolutionary.org/podcasts/
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/evolutionary-bodybuilding-radio/id1798623410
https://open.spotify.com/show/53q1RFTgG4h6TQHsJ4xY6Z

 

[Daxman23]

i saw your banner pic thats you? you look good @Daxman23 please post the pic here face blurred so we understand your base
btw cyp and hgh is TRT+ one of the best combo!
You need a TRT log up now because you are not on simple TRT, you are self cruising on 150mg test with 4 IU HGH and talking about tren later, so the EVO family needs real tracking before you blast again.

Post the log with bodyweight, calories, protein carbs fats, training weights, sleep, BP, HGH timing, pin days, full bloods, glucose, lipids and CBC, because without that EVO family cant tell if your maintenance, recovery, BP, hematocrit or insulin sensitivity is actually in a good place. 15min of your time to start a TRT log and you will change your life!

HOW-TO LOG?

Why is a Log Journal important?

• Doing a log will actually help you way more than just dropping random updates. When you lay it all out week by week you start to see patterns in your body that you won’t catch otherwise.
• Other guys here run logs all the time and there’s no privacy issue, nobody is asking for your name or anything personal, it is just training, diet, and how the compound feels.
• The feedback you get is also way better because people can follow along and spot things you might miss. It also helps the next guy who is thinking about running the same compound so you are giving back while you learn.
• Even if you think you might not stick with it, just starting the log makes it easier to come back and add quick notes. That way you get more out of what you are running instead of keeping it all in your head.

To really guide you we need more info from you:

• Please share your diet, training, cardio, sleep, supplements etc log with us in a NEW thread, full log journal so our guidance is based on facts you provide.
• It will take 15-20 minutes max.
• We have 100s of years of experience between us, so you need to post a LOG Journal with your stats (weight,height,age, years training, cycle history) diet, training, cardio, supplement, sleep details. If you don't log what you eat or train now, open NOTES on phone and start recording it there and paste here. Very easy.
• Please post a Log Journal asap for us

Please click the anabolic forum
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/forums/anabolic-steroids-and-peds.2/
top RIGHT, you see: +POST THREAD
click that

in Title: write your cycle name, like> My _____ Cycle Log
___ = the name of your log
example: My TRT HGH Log
in body: write your planned cycle or cycle you doing now, your diet, training and we will help you along on your cycle

here are examples of LOG Journals
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/first-testosterone-cycle-log.104133/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/sustanon-trenomast-deca-dbol-cycle-journal.105881/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/s-gentz-2025-26-growth-phase-log-with-psl.106514/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...var-bpc157-beligas-pharmaqo-cycle-log.104843/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...g-log-sponsored-by-purity-source-labs.103669/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...erone-cycle-and-beginner-training-log.106310/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/average-trt-back-to-savage-cycle-journal.106252
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...-testosterone-masteron-primobolan-deca.105348
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...odybuilding-log-masters-55-competitor.102611/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...ron-npp-tren-anadrol-log-to-stage-2025.102590

P.S. are you listening to our podcast? if not, you should; this podcast is about steroids, sarms, peptides, and bodybuilding:
https://www.evolutionary.org/podcasts/
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/evolutionary-bodybuilding-radio/id1798623410
https://open.spotify.com/show/53q1RFTgG4h6TQHsJ4xY6Z

I will try and find the time to do a proper log. I look ok for a 39 year old father of 3 girls lol. Got a ways to go to get back to my best but it can be done. I blew my shoulder out almost 4 years ago. Torn labrum, infraspinatus, and teres minor and had to have rotator cuff surgery. Took a lot out and off me. I’m 6’0 243lbs currently sitting around 16% bodyfat. I’m trying to locate bloods but everything was perfectly in range except HDL, LDL, but they were both literally 1 point out of range. Blood pressure was actually low on my last visit when I had my bloodwork done a month to 6 weeks ago. My PCP said she may ween me off my BP Telmisartan prescription if it was low again on next visit. My hematocrit was good. I’m lucky and I’ve never had an issue with hematocrit levels even when I ran boldenone in the past. I monitor my blood sugar daily…. It was a 96 this morning. My mom has type 2 diabetes and I stay on top of it.