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DO NOT i repeat do not say anything if you don't have to. If she trips out about a j???????
question is, keeping AAS from gf, is it harmless or not?
dsullivan0813
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I believe certain indiscretions are better left unsaid but as far as something that is more a life style than a single act that was not thought out the truth is better they will figure it out eventually. I was married for 20 years and thought it was better to hide and sneak things I felt where none of her business it ended that relationship. From that experience I've found it better to just be honest my current gf is on board with the life style and there is trust there and with out trust there not much hope for any relationship. Plus it sucks to have to sneak and lie I'm done with that I'm to old to play games just my 2 cents
I hate to be so cynical Steve. Really I do. I try to look for the better good in people and give most people the benifit of the doubt but I have in the last 5 years woke up to the real world.4
As you mentioned in another thread... people do cheat. Per your quote "Women more than men". BUt back to the point...people DO LIE TOO. However, unlike cheating or a lie..... A SECRET IS DIFFERENT. It's not always betrayal and it's sometimes done out of love. Yes...when a person LIES it usaually involes a secret. This is not the kind of secret I am referring too. I am talking about the kind that does not NEED to be spoken of. The kind that PROTECTS, KEEPS THE PEACE and LOVES.
Mattdogg
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Yup. Even the slightest, most innocent little secret or white lie has always came back and bitten me in the ass.
I agree, plus brother I Have to be that guy and say it out loud, man when I feel betrayed by my own mother! How could I trust women who claim to love me with my AAS?
Brotehrs!!!
I brought it up with girlfriend of now two years, that I am using this, she cried, then she called me names, then she told me I am a junky and a low life and now we are broken up, the worst part is I already paid for tickets and hotel for holidays and declined to join my family!!!! Kind of sucks but I guess more time to hit the Iron temple
I brought it up with girlfriend of now two years, that I am using this, she cried, then she called me names, then she told me I am a junky and a low life and now we are broken up, the worst part is I already paid for tickets and hotel for holidays and declined to join my family!!!! Kind of sucks but I guess more time to hit the Iron temple
Bama
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Brotehrs!!!
I brought it up with girlfriend of now two years, that I am using this, she cried, then she called me names, then she told me I am a junky and a low life and now we are broken up, the worst part is I already paid for tickets and hotel for holidays and declined to join my family!!!! Kind of sucks but I guess more time to hit the Iron temple
I warned you people.
In the grand scheme of a lifelong relationship there will be circumstances or personal choices much more involved than aas usage. I hate to say it as I know what breakups feel like but if she could not accept your decision of responsible aas usage this was probably a relationship either destined for failure or one to be full of many arguments and hardships. It may not seem like it right now but you are most likely better off.
well in all seriousness considering these types of relationship threads go like 20 pages we definitely should do like what the hodgetwins or luimarco do on their fitness youtube sites and also have some articles/videos on relationships.. it all ties into fitness. whenever I see guys at the gym on their phones texting I know exactly what is happening.. girl problems! that's the one thing that can fuck up a workout and ruin an entire cycle. a girl can make us feel incredible confidence and the next minute break our hurts and make us depressed
different experiences for different people
I've dated good, bad, and the ugly. been through a lot..
divorce is tough no matter what and if it gets ugly both parties will do what it takes .. I don't see any good scenario coming out of it
I just don't think its realistic to keep steroid use private, eventually she will find out.. and then she might feel betrayed and who knows how she will react. i'd rather just come out right away so there are no surprises. I view it as a lifestyle thing. like if I go out with a girl and she is a big drinker and eats mcdonalds its just not gonna work out.
I also think the younger generations are much more liberal on stuff like this, social issues. they have no problem with it as long as its done the right way and the person knows what they are doing. med marijuana for example is very popular among the younger crowd but hated with the older generation.
I totally understand the older guys on her being worried. different generation and different views
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Brotehrs!!!
I brought it up with girlfriend of now two years, that I am using this, she cried, then she called me names, then she told me I am a junky and a low life and now we are broken up, the worst part is I already paid for tickets and hotel for holidays and declined to join my family!!!! Kind of sucks but I guess more time to hit the Iron temple
well first off you should of told her this when you met and not waited till now, that's what I've been saying this entire thread.
second a junkie cause you use steroids? but i'm sure she drinks and has used rec drugs before.
it doesn't suck at all, if she isn't going to support your lifestyle then don't let the door hit her on the way out. you do this to look better right? you don't do this to get high or get a buzz.
how old are both of you anyway? I take it you aren't an American? you an Aussie? this information makes a difference cause in Australia steroids are much more maligned than in the states
angerisagift30
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ultimately, like many of you said...I guess you have to judge the woman and how much you think she would support you in all this. I think if it was discussed upfront it is going to be a lot easier than after many years. For me, the hiding of packs, syringes, use etc from her is just part of the game for me....
Dr. phil is that you?? lol, man spot on, seriously this is absolutely right!!!
Close enough, English but don't live in UK ! I am 27 and she is 29, she does not do rec drugs and rarely drinks.
I am not doing this to look amazing, I mean that is one of the best perks of it, but I like the feeling of being able to lift heavy, being able to run long distance, I like the carnal masculine feeling it gives me, its like mediation for the Buddhists I guess, gives me access to a part of my manhood that I enjoy more than anything! I actually do not know what is peoples beef with juicing unlike drugs or alcohl where you could damage others by drunk driving or stealing or other crazy shit, AAS at worst will make my own testis tiny, how is this effecting anybody else??!! I DONT get the stigma of it at all!!!
thanks bro. experience has helped me in life and I strive to learn everyday
try and meet a chick who is big into fitness as well and who will UNDERSTAND what you are trying to accomplish here. this makes a big difference.. probably because I only dated athletic chicks who are big into fitness and health has this never been a problem for me. take the girl to the gym and show her how strong you are, she will get it trust me
snackmachine
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Because of personal morality or lack thereof, upbringing, cultural norms for a particular region and family, there is no correct answer. Every situation is different with uncountable dynamics involved. For anyone to think their answer is the only one is just fucking crazy.
angerisagift30
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netflix right....that was a great documentary in blowing many of the claims about steroid use out of the water....but also makes you realize that the best of the best were users anyway, whether they were caught or not....
MikePhillips
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There are probably a few women reading your post right now and thinking "Geez, that guy's a jerk", but there's a helluva lot to be said about primal urges and base instinct. I had a guy in my barracks with a flat on his Jetta years ago when we were both young, his jack was missing, so I pulled all but one of the lug nuts off and told him to get ready to swap the tires, then I just lifted the back of the car up and held it while he swapped tires and got a couple of lugs started. Not a big deal to me, but he was pretty impressed. His girlfriend, however, was just blown away by the display of raw power and hit on me shamelessly every time she was around, even right in front her boyfriend. Young people, especially, can be pretty fucked up by nature's urges.
^^^ pheromones get released during a workout. that is why guys are always creeping on chicks at the gym
not sure if the same phenomenon happens the other way too but whatever it is chicks love watching her strong guy push heavy weight
not sure if the same phenomenon happens the other way too but whatever it is chicks love watching her strong guy push heavy weight
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MikePhillips
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Oh, it works both ways, I think. This is kind of weird to say, but the girlfriend I had when I was in NATTC Memphis would cuddle up to me, stick her face up by my shoulder and breath deep (she was smelling my armpit, in other words) and just get instantly horny. For a long time I thought she was just a cute, pleasantly freakish chick that was turned on by male pit odor, but I happened on to some pheromone research about 15 years ago that explained her behavior pretty well.
snackmachine
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my wife likes sniffin my pits too. Creepy but hey - go for it if it makes you horny girl.
^^good response. I found this thread pretty interesting to read and thought provoking (I probably need better things to think about lol) First of all, some of you guys have been involved with some pretty crappy women. Makes me realize I don't really know what a lot of women are like.
I think the answer to the question is really another question....what kind of relationship do you want and what are you ok with internally in terms of disclosure? There was a time in my life where I was single, dating and using. As a female, there are a whole different set of stereotypes for steroid use and I'd bet a lot of you here, who are educated on steroids,still have them. I've never used to the point where you would look at me and know I was using but....it begs the question, if a relationship was starting, what would I say.
Me personally, I've hit that point of my life where I'm gonna do what I'm gonna do and if you don't like it, so be it. I have been on the receiving end of what it feels like to discover the person you love is keeping secrets. It's not honest. I don't want a relationship based on lies and secrets. If my partner's steroid use is a deal breaker for me, that's my issue and it's up to me to own it and leave or figure out a way to compromise.
IDK....there really is no easy answer but to the OP, if you're already feeling bad sneaking around, you don't want to have a lifetime of that. Too much work imo.
MikePhillips
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Yeah, I don't think many women will admit to it, or do it when it's noticeable, but I'm fairly confident that pit odor from a strong, healthy, fertile male can, and does, send a woman's sex hormones into overdrive, especially if they're ovulating. Before my marriage got bad and we were still occasionally playful, I'd sometimes chase my wife around, you know how young couples do, and when I caught her I'd shove her face into my armpit, being a normal gross guy. She'd fuss, and complain, of course, but on those nights, almost without fail, as soon as the lights were out and the kids were in bed she'd be all over me, real aggressively.
MikePhillips
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For my part, I wasn't talking about secrets that you just didn't want them to know, but rather things you didn't want everyone they know, to know. And again, I'm sure there are women out there that don't gossip about things that should remain between herself and her husband/SO, and maybe you're one of them, but my wife wasn't, and that lesson was learned by me early on in our marriage, and will probably continue influencing what I say (or don't) to anyone I might become involved with for the rest of my life.
I totally understand that and I'm not judging at all. I'm probably way too idealistic. I figure....I've been through enough crappy relationships, why can't I have a good one for a change?!?
chevychris2014
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There out there Cali lol <-
MikePhillips
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I totally understand that and I'm not judging at all. I'm probably way too idealistic. I figure....I've been through enough crappy relationships, why can't I have a good one for a change?!?
I didn't mean to sound defensive (I re-read it and it does seem that way, a little, my apologies), I just wanted to make my position clear, that I'm against lying, but all for privacy
And I'll add my wishes for good luck in your hunt. I'm extremely idealistic myself (you'd think that at my age, it'd have been beaten out of me, right?) and don't really expect to ever find another long-term relationship because of it.
I didn't mean to sound defensive (I re-read it and it does seem that way, a little, my apologies), I just wanted to make my position clear, that I'm against lying, but all for privacy
And I'll add my wishes for good luck in your hunt. I'm extremely idealistic myself (you'd think that at my age, it'd have been beaten out of me, right?) and don't really expect to ever find another long-term relationship because of it.
I hear ya. I was sitting here thinking about a date I had several years ago where the guy seemed to be put off by the fact that I was even in the gym as much as I was and I was remember thinking "if only he knew I was running var at the moment"...lol It's an interesting thread, to me, because it makes me stop and think about my own life and what would I do now. It's easy to be the arm chair psychologist but maybe never quite so simple in real life.
And I think it's good you're not beaten down! I used to be but have spent the last two years just "doing me" and it's been good. I'm not sure I'll ever find a ltr either but that's ok. I'm pretty happy where I'm at.
MikePhillips
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I hear ya. I was sitting here thinking about a date I had several years ago where the guy seemed to be put off by the fact that I was even in the gym as much as I was and I was remember thinking "if only he knew I was running var at the moment"...lol It's an interesting thread, to me, because it makes me stop and think about my own life and what would I do now. It's easy to be the arm chair psychologist but maybe never quite so simple in real life.
And I think it's good you're not beaten down! I used to be but have spent the last two years just "doing me" and it's been good. I'm not sure I'll ever find a ltr either but that's ok. I'm pretty happy where I'm at.
Odd, that you being into fitness would bother him, but there are plenty of odd ones out there, shouldn't be surprising, I guess. If you want to meet some true freaks, weirdos and nutjobs, try a dating website for awhile. You wouldn't believe some of the crazy, outrageous, or just downright sad stories I could tell you from my own experiences, hell I can hardly believe them myself, sometimes.
LOL...ok..I'm digressing off the op but ya....dating websites! OMG! That date was one. I haven't done it in a few years but yikes! Twilight zone! lol
You would be surprised....if a man isn't much into fitness himself or does something other than weights, there's a certain something you pick up...not sure if it's intimidation or what. I've found, too, unless you're a serious lifter and maybe even a competitor, there's still a lot of judgement that comes from women using. It's funny how that works.
chevychris2014
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Cali im open lol.
MikePhillips
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LOL...ok..I'm digressing off the op but ya....dating websites! OMG! That date was one. I haven't done it in a few years but yikes! Twilight zone! lol
You would be surprised....if a man isn't much into fitness himself or does something other than weights, there's a certain something you pick up...not sure if it's intimidation or what. I've found, too, unless you're a serious lifter and maybe even a competitor, there's still a lot of judgement that comes from women using. It's funny how that works.
I guess I've never thought much about it myself, can't imagine why it would bother me unless she weren't at all feminine, and I suppose I always figured most guys are that way. Thing is, if a guy feels intimidated by a woman who's fit and has some muscle definition, it strikes me he's somewhat insecure and probably not an ideal choice anyway. Nothing worse for a woman than landing a guy who's full of insecurities about himself, he'll make them both miserable.
calmb4dastorm
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I am going to have to chime in on this from the a woman's point of view. Well, this woman's point of view. I honestly think that telling or NOT telling your gf depends on her mentality. I personally just began a cycle myself and I have no issues with my bf starting his own cycle if that is what he wants to do. I do, however, feel the same sentiment because i think his body looks amazing without the juice. But I am on his side 100% and then some when it comes to something he wants to do. I try to support him in ALL of his endeavors and he does the same for me. He pins me and I pin him. Maybe for us it is different because we share the same interest in BB...But you have to remember that you are still an individual even though you are in a relationship together. You have things that you want to do for yourself personally and you have every right to do so. So she frowns on it, if she really loves you, you should be able to handle the truth and support you in your endeavor!
LOL...ok..I'm digressing off the op but ya....dating websites! OMG! That date was one. I haven't done it in a few years but yikes! Twilight zone! lol
You would be surprised....if a man isn't much into fitness himself or does something other than weights, there's a certain something you pick up...not sure if it's intimidation or what. I've found, too, unless you're a serious lifter and maybe even a competitor, there's still a lot of judgement that comes from women using. It's funny how that works.
I think that 99% of guys even on here would be intimidated by your physique.. I mean that in a good way, just the way it is.
if its not a fellow bodybuilder, you need to find an ex pro athlete who will be secure with someone with your bodybuilding history or someone who played at the college level atleast who UNDERSTANDS .. its kind of shitty but that's the way guys think.
I can't speak for down there but up here, most of the women who compete, even in bikini, are using something. Unless we are looking like the stereotypical female bb'ers, we don't necessarily say we are using. Even in the bb'ing world, there's a stigma attached.
So chances are, you've met some and just didn't know it
I hear ya but it's funny to me because if you saw me, walking down the street, I look just average and "normal". When I competed, it was in figure and I was still considered "small". I agree with you though. My experience is that men like the hot bod but if they know you've used something, the story changes.
chevychris2014
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I dig it lol.
I think men in your generation have a problem with a chick more successful than them at anything. whether it be bodybuilding or their career.
I'm actually kind of that way too.. I dated a doctor for a brief time and the fact she made more than me was more of a turn off then turn on.
I think men in your generation have a problem with a chick more successful than them at anything. whether it be bodybuilding or their career.
I'm actually kind of that way too.. I dated a doctor for a brief time and the fact she made more than me was more of a turn off then turn on.
chevychris2014
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That just makes for more of a competition.
My generation....makes me sound like a grandma. lol
jerseydevil
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I think Steve just called us old (especially me) Cali
j/kWomen being 'on' is a turn on to me!
How would you like to explain the enormous stash of needles to an unsuspecting spouse or GF. I think Steve said it best pages back - if you know how to carry yourself, aren't a jerk and try to be successful in life in all things you do they will always respect you even if not understanding the compounds in use. What is whispered in the cellar will always be shouted from the roof top!
y1der
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It wouldnt bother me..done correctly AAS is a miracle treatment for many things.....and thats what im workin on now..
So to have a Women on juice ....makes it cheaper buying in bulk...LOLLast night I was hanging out with a mate of mine who is a female MMA fighter and she was showing me her fights that were on ESPN etc, for the first time in my life I was attracted to her sexually to level I could not believe, for right type of men, AAS, Work out and being sportive/Aggressive is a huge turn on and not just sexually, it gives us a feeling like this girl could be a partner for me
MikePhillips
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Yeah, I suppose finding a woman who also juices would solve the problem of "do I tell her?" As for whether they're attractive to men, or make men feel threatened, everybody has their own idea of attractive. As for a guy feeling threatened or intimidated by a woman who's physically superior, or makes more money....that's on the guy, and like I said before, is probably a result of some form of personal insecurity. For my own part, I like really big women (tall and muscular, not fat), though that's more for....anatomical comfort, than anything else. I dated a 6'6" tall amazon beauty (not really amazonian, she was from Michigan) for a little while when I was a young man. Like her a lot, but she was 13 years older than me and it was never going to be anything long term. We had a blast, but broke it off before my 2nd deployment.
Met my gf 01/04/2014. Dated for a few months before telling her, never said anything other then "I like to Bodybuild, powerlift etc and I take certain things". Left it at that, over time she started asking me how I train so hard and heavy and she loves working out too. When I knew this was getting serious I told her, I use AAS and always will. She is more then welcome to leave no hard feelings, she said she was OK with me using even pins me and all that jazz. She thinks like me except she doesn't have a dick lol (she thinks the media blows it out of the water). We've watched pumping iron, driven by mark dugdale, bigger faster stronger. And she is fully on board always has been!
Everyone has a public life
Everyone has a private life
Everyone has a secret life
Really depends on the situation, the person, and many other factors. But once she knows, its no longer a secret, just imagine what would happen when you guys get in an argument(prob will blackmail you) or even break up. If your really insecure about taking juice, then keep this in your secret life.
Everyone has a private life
Everyone has a secret life
Really depends on the situation, the person, and many other factors. But once she knows, its no longer a secret, just imagine what would happen when you guys get in an argument(prob will blackmail you) or even break up. If your really insecure about taking juice, then keep this in your secret life.
snackmachine
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Well - it is careless.
Took a while to get my wife to not look at me with stank eye, but she sees that I actually live a healthier lifestyle than here.
Winning her over was awesome BC now she pins me and is actually interested. Plus, the increase in sex life has her doing me more favors...
Winning her over was awesome BC now she pins me and is actually interested. Plus, the increase in sex life has her doing me more favors...
probably trying to attract more business, although you would think he would want people to seek his services based on his knowledge of diet and training, not steroid use.
completely,
especially if it is a commercial gym,
what we all do in our homes is no ones business, but yes very, very careless
Well he looks like a monster from Disney characters, just 3 months go he was a little dude so I guess thats his advertisment
sounds like when a football player celebrates a sack down 40-0 and then tears a knee in the process
tell him that he should act like he has been there before, in his case he jumped on sauce to achieve his results. I'm not impressed.
boss302123
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Telling my gitl was one of the best things I ever did, she now dose all my pins like a doctor would. Now my buddy on the other hand told his girl and she freaked and donot want him doing it do he has to hide it. So it's a 50/50 shot how she might feel about it. Good luck
31yogymrat
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Wife caught me the other day with a pin sticking out my quad. Luckly, she cringed in terror of seeing a needle and just walked away. I still haven't got any BS about it. I guess she don't care.
Well she totalled your truck you know whats up lol
I second that
kneelmeh
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It all comes down to what kind of understanding you 2 have. It was hard for me to tell my woman that I am juicing because the society has that STIGMA on steroids. The hype of people dying becuase of roids, health issues and what the fuck not. Yes, she did get a little upset after hearing but I had to sit her down and tell her the facts and the basics. I mean someone who abuses alcohol has a chance of dying quicker than someone on juice. Of course, anything is possible when you abuse roids too. As long as she knows that you are not abusing anything and are using it to enhance the efforts that you put day in and day out in the gym, and you are extra cautious with everything that comes with it, she should be ok. But once again, it all comes down to what kind of understing you guys have.......................Good luck dude!!!!!!
Just tell your girl, the easiest thing to do is tell the truth don't hide anything it will only cause problems especially if you are really serious with her. She will understand if she really cares for you, tell her the real story of what you are using and let her research just don't hide it. Simple as that.
Bro, I wouldn't do it.. I did it before with my ex and whenever we got in to arguments she would think I'm about to go in to a "roid rage" and began threatening me with calling the cops... I am a very relaxed and passive person, so I never yelled at her. I think it's a bad idea IMO, but in the end, you know her best.
Also, I was son sore one day I had her pin me in the glute.. she stabbed it in me and I swear it hit the bone, lol. What a b**** she was..
Even with my current girlfriend, who I plan on marrying, won't know about my upcoming cycle.
Also, I was son sore one day I had her pin me in the glute.. she stabbed it in me and I swear it hit the bone, lol. What a b**** she was..
Even with my current girlfriend, who I plan on marrying, won't know about my upcoming cycle.
