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Sarms1 GW-501516 and S4 70lb shred log!

Can def tell.. lookin great bud. Keep it up

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Fucking tired. Hit gym hard as hell, gw is freaking amazing. I've noticed it really helps with recovery, but not so much for cardio. Ever since I started gw and.s4.I can't get through a.30 minute session.. maybe cause I always workout first so I'm already wasted by the time I go to do cardio. Omfg can't wait to sleep...feel to lazy to even made food

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hurricane said:
protan and buy hair clippers and use it with no clips on instead of shaving.. you wont get the stubbles.

ill be following.. keep up the good work
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^^^ keep your shit trimmed up playa.. :D

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Starting to feel better on the sarms.. devised a way to take them without the horrid taste. I mix up the sarms then add to a little pepto bismol

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addcd2gains said:
Starting to feel better on the sarms.. devised a way to take them without the horrid taste. I mix up the sarms then add to a little pepto bismol

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More than one way to skin a cat bro but personally I would rather choke down sarms then pepto but as long as it helps you then I approve.
 
Need to refeed soon.. what should that look like? Probably not pasta and garlic breat...

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m88tow said:
More than one way to skin a cat bro but personally I would rather choke down sarms then pepto but as long as it helps you then I approve.
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They mess up my stomach so that's why I do it with pepto

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addcd2gains said:
Need to refeed soon.. what should that look like? Probably not pasta and garlic breat...
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Alright, here comes the great part of the evolutionary diet, the refeed.

Since you've been doing this for a few weeks, your body has completely depleted all glycogen stores, and (this is a side line) you've done a great job with your training and weight loss. Very dedicated, two thumbs up for that.

Saturday:
Your first refeed day will be free for all - BUT, there is a catch, you have 8 hours to eat all the food you want - up to 4500 calories.
It means from 10-6 you can eat anything you craved during the 3 weeks, but make sure you don't go over 4500 calories. Forget ratios, just eat your heart out.
**this will tone down the psychological pressure of the diet and really help you regain your edge

Sunday:
This is a controlled refeed day, all carbohydrates have to be low-GI, means no high-sugar food. Think oatmeal, whole grain pastas, high fiber breads etc...
Ratios for Sunday: Caloric intake: BMR + 10% => weight x 12 + 10%
Fat – 30-40%
Protein – 10-15 %
Carbs – 45-60%
Average it out to: 30f/15p/55c
 
wolfpackalpha said:
Alright, here comes the great part of the evolutionary diet, the refeed.

Since you've been doing this for a few weeks, your body has completely depleted all glycogen stores, and (this is a side line) you've done a great job with your training and weight loss. Very dedicated, two thumbs up for that.

Saturday:
Your first refeed day will be free for all - BUT, there is a catch, you have 8 hours to eat all the food you want - up to 4500 calories.
It means from 10-6 you can eat anything you craved during the 3 weeks, but make sure you don't go over 4500 calories. Forget ratios, just eat your heart out.
**this will tone down the psychological pressure of the diet and really help you regain your edge

Sunday:
This is a controlled refeed day, all carbohydrates have to be low-GI, means no high-sugar food. Think oatmeal, whole grain pastas, high fiber breads etc...
Ratios for Sunday: Caloric intake: BMR + 10% => weight x 12 + 10%
Fat – 30-40%
Protein – 10-15 %
Carbs – 45-60%
Average it out to: 30f/15p/55c
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Sweet, can't wait

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K, so I've decided to take a break from gw and s4... I've felt like total shit since I started taking it. Haven't had a decent night's sleep since I started, stomach is always upset, feel like puking a lot of the time, it's like I have the flu or something. I'm taking a break to see if I feel better off of it, and if I do I'll start taking it again (incase it was just a flu) but if I start getting sick again once I take it again, I'm done with it.. I can't stand feeling like this for 8 weeks. Will keep you guys posted

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addcd2gains said:
K, so I've decided to take a break from gw and s4... I've felt like total shit since I started taking it. Haven't had a decent night's sleep since I started, stomach is always upset, feel like puking a lot of the time, it's like I have the flu or something. I'm taking a break to see if I feel better off of it, and if I do I'll start taking it again (incase it was just a flu) but if I start getting sick again once I take it again, I'm done with it.. I can't stand feeling like this for 8 weeks. Will keep you guys posted

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Could be the GW bro. I puked every time I worked out while on it. My body just didn't tolerate it. My girl has been running it for months with no issues.
 
addcd2gains said:
K, so I've decided to take a break from gw and s4... I've felt like total shit since I started taking it. Haven't had a decent night's sleep since I started, stomach is always upset, feel like puking a lot of the time, it's like I have the flu or something. I'm taking a break to see if I feel better off of it, and if I do I'll start taking it again (incase it was just a flu) but if I start getting sick again once I take it again, I'm done with it.. I can't stand feeling like this for 8 weeks. Will keep you guys posted

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Hmmm, that blows. I'm on GW, MK and S4 and loving it. may have to do 5 on, 2 off with the S4 (if that's whats causing the problem). I'd PM Dylan and ask him man, he's the king of SARM's and might help you with that issue.
 
meathead96 said:
Could be the GW bro. I puked every time I worked out while on it. My body just didn't tolerate it. My girl has been running it for months with no issues.
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Actually I do have the flu... puking like a mofo and no sarms.today.. fever of 102.. I'll give sarms.another shot when I'm healthy

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addcd2gains said:
Actually I do have the flu... puking like a mofo and no sarms.today.. fever of 102.. I'll give sarms.another shot when I'm healthy

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Well that's good....I mean sort of lol. I'm glad it's not the SARM's cause man these things are awesome. Take care of yourself and get back at it when u can.
 
Day 2 refeed, didn't get around to posting what I ate yesterday and didn't count macros but I'm sure I kept in within the limits. Had the usual breakfast, hamburger and a beer for lunch, and 2 bowls of chicken scampi pasta for dinner. I'm guessing around 3800 calories

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They are in the thread.. 2 before pics and 1 update 2 weeks in. (Page 11 are progress pics) .. Will post another progress pic in 2 more weeks

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ACSlater said:
Hey bro, how are things going? Read through your entire log and really enjoyed it.
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Pretty good man.. feeling kinda fat after doing my refeed and not working out for 3 days (that's evo diet rules, can't work out during refeed cause I need to replenish my glycogen stores.) but ready to get back to it tomorrow for sure.

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I am in the same boat. Been under the weather the past few days not having the energy to hit the gym. These days are good for recoovery even though it kills us to stay out of the gym. I dont know about you but I always come back stronger and harder after a short break. Keep killing it man! Finish strong!
 
ACSlater said:
I am in the same boat. Been under the weather the past few days not having the energy to hit the gym. These days are good for recoovery even though it kills us to stay out of the gym. I dont know about you but I always come back stronger and harder after a short break. Keep killing it man! Finish strong!
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Yeah I know what you mean.. just wait till you get your gw brah.. unmotivated will no longer be part of your vocab ;)

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Just wanted to note that my muscles are feeling very hard.. I've been decently stacked before but I never have had muscle this dense and rock hard.. s4 is doing its job. I'm pleased

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addcd2gains said:
Yeah I know what you mean.. just wait till you get your gw brah.. unmotivated will no longer be part of your vocab ;)

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Yea motivation isnt usually a huge problem for me. I am focused on my goals. It is also nice that I have built a pretty nice garage gym for myself. For instance today, feeling sick but since my gym is so close, I am im there and working out before I can talk myself out of it haha
 
ACSlater said:
Yea motivation isnt usually a huge problem for me. I am focused on my goals. It is also nice that I have built a pretty nice garage gym for myself. For instance today, feeling sick but since my gym is so close, I am im there and working out before I can talk myself out of it haha
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I really want to (and almost need to) just set up a home gym. So many fucking new years resolutionists in my gym atm.. like 15 minimum AT any given point... and the gym MIGHT be 600sq ft

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addcd2gains said:
I really want to (and almost need to) just set up a home gym. So many fucking new years resolutionists in my gym atm.. like 15 minimum AT any given point... and the gym MIGHT be 600sq ft

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That is brutal bro! Where do you lift at?
 
addcd2gains said:
I really want to (and almost need to) just set up a home gym. So many fucking new years resolutionists in my gym atm.. like 15 minimum AT any given point... and the gym MIGHT be 600sq ft

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yea but going to the gym has that extra motivation IMO
 
So did you get back on your sarms

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Hey bro, do you notice an increase in strength by using s4 and gw? What about endurance? Can you do cardio longer without getting tired?
 
Tubulin said:
Bro hows the gw and sarms combo going? Leaning out pretty well? You a fat burning machine yet?
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definitely. Haven't weighed myself in a few days, so I don't have a gw weight loss number, but I have lost 20 lbs on the evo diet in 13 days!


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Hey bro, do you notice an increase in strength by using s4 and gw? What about endurance? Can you do cardio longer without getting tired?
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I have definitely noticed that I can do more weight, more reps faster and with much less recovery time inbetween sets than I was able to do before I started sarms. My muscles are feeling super hard from the s4. Literally, I have never had muscles this hard before. But even when I was 180 and a very conditioned collegiate wrestler with 10% body fat doing nothing but extreme conditioning training. And it's only been 6 days! I explain how I'm feeling/doing better on my video logs on YouTube on the evo channel. Playlist daniel judson transformation.

As for cardio, I actually have not noticed any increased performance on the gw yet. I haven't really had opportunity enough to fully judge that though. I have been taking it easy on cardio the past week because I felt like I was overtraining a little bit. Next week will be nothing but circuit workouts, mma grappling x3 a week, and 1 day a week legs in the gym. so that will be a good test for gws performance reports.

I finally found an undergoing wrestling/mma club. Only $5 a day to train there ($5 entrance fee, not $150 a month) So I Am super stoked to start getting back into that, because that is by far my favorite type of workout. The dude has big bags, speed bags, jump ropes etc and about 500sq feet of wrestling mats in his basement. There are tournaments every month so that gives me a good short term goal to help me in succeeding with my long term goal.

I have found that adding short term goals helps succeed long term goals, because then the finish line doesn't seem so far away.

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Damn bro^. Awesome weight loss in 13 days! I am definetly starting the evo diet once I get to log the GW and S4 soon! Your stomach slimming out? See those abs yet?

Damn S4 hardens too? What can't it do!
 
Tubulin said:
Damn bro^. Awesome weight loss in 13 days! I am definetly starting the evo diet once I get to log the GW and S4 soon! Your stomach slimming out? See those abs yet?

Damn S4 hardens too? What can't it do!
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S4 it's very similar to winstrol which is a hardening aaa.I'm a slimming siren for sure but it will be a few months before the abs are viable.. even when I was 180 I ask didn't have abs

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Since starting s4, my arms have been growing impressively fast. It's almost like aas results, but is to soon to really make that distinction.
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addcd2gains said:
Since starting s4, my arms have been growing impressively fast. It's almost like aas results, but is to soon to really make that distinction.
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That's impressive, amazing results my friend.

For you guys on the forums, check this out:

BEFORE:
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AFTER 3 1/2 weeks:
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Okay here is next 2 weeks training regiment:

I am doing 2 weeks of 5x5 training because I've re built a decent enough foundation to do a little strength exercises.

Monday: Legs and core (5x5)
Leg press
H curls
L extensions
Sitting calf raises (machine)

Hanging knee tucks (5L, 5C, 5R) X3

Decline medicine ball sit ups

2 sets of plank to failure

Wednesday: chest and tris
2 sets 5r incline db press
2s 5r flat dbp
2s 5r decline dbp

2s 5r each:
Rope pull downs
V bar pull downs
Strait bar pull downs

Thursday: back and bis
Sitting cable rows close verticle grip 5x5
Wide grip pull downs 5x5
Bent over bb rows 5x5

Bent over curls (light weight + resistance band) 5x5
Hammer curls 5x5

Friday: traps and shoulders
Bb shrugs 3x5
Db shrugs 3x5
Lateral db raises 5x5
Arnold's 5x5
Front db raise 5x5 (strait arms)
Close grip bb raises (groin to chin) 5x5

Rest Saturday
2 hours cardio Sunday
Rest Monday
Repeat

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Since you're running the evolutionary diet, you'll need to modify your training a bit. It's not about volume but more about the quality of training, you need to switch to a modified HIT with a hybrid high rep program.

*assuming you had a Sunday refeed

Monday: Chest/Back/Legs, concentrate on the big 3:
http://www.evolutionary.org/triple-threat-bench-press-back-squat-deadlift/
using this training method: http://www.evolutionary.org/evolutionary-HIT-training
Tuesday: repeat Monday
Wed: Arms/shoulder/abs + 30 min cardio (incline walking up a treadmill - HR in the fat burning zone)
Thur: 30 min cardio (incline walking up a treadmill - HR in the fat burning zone)
Fri: OFF
Sat: OFF
Sunday Morning (early) before you start refeed: full bodyworkout (high intensity) + 30 min cardio (incline walking up a treadmill - HR in the fat burning zone)
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wolfpackalpha said:
Since you're running the evolutionary diet, you'll need to modify your training a bit. It's not about volume but more about the quality of training, you need to switch to a modified HIT with a hybrid high rep program.

*assuming you had a Sunday refeed

Monday: Chest/Back/Legs, concentrate on the big 3:
http://www.evolutionary.org/triple-threat-bench-press-back-squat-deadlift/
using this training method: http://www.evolutionary.org/evolutionary-HIT-training
Tuesday: repeat Monday
Wed: Arms/shoulder/abs + 30 min cardio (incline walking up a treadmill - HR in the fat burning zone)
Thur: 30 min cardio (incline walking up a treadmill - HR in the fat burning zone)
Fri: OFF
Sat: OFF
Sunday Morning (early) before you start refeed: full bodyworkout (high intensity) + 30 min cardio (incline walking up a treadmill - HR in the fat burning zone)
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I missed Mondays workout, so mine all this forward 1 day?

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wolfpackalpha said:
Since you're running the evolutionary diet, you'll need to modify your training a bit. It's not about volume but more about the quality of training, you need to switch to a modified HIT with a hybrid high rep program.

*assuming you had a Sunday refeed

Monday: Chest/Back/Legs, concentrate on the big 3:
http://www.evolutionary.org/triple-threat-bench-press-back-squat-deadlift/
using this training method: http://www.evolutionary.org/evolutionary-HIT-training
Tuesday: repeat Monday
Wed: Arms/shoulder/abs + 30 min cardio (incline walking up a treadmill - HR in the fat burning zone)
Thur: 30 min cardio (incline walking up a treadmill - HR in the fat burning zone)
Fri: OFF
Sat: OFF
Sunday Morning (early) before you start refeed: full bodyworkout (high intensity) + 30 min cardio (incline walking up a treadmill - HR in the fat burning zone)
->start refeed
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This does NOT work for me.. at least the 5251 cadence followed by 20 or 30 reps.. my rotator cuff was screaming bloody murder when I was going 5 seconds up and 5 seconds down. I first tried it on the machine press and then db press. Can do it. Ended up just doing my regular chest routine, dead lifts on 5251 cadence, close grip vertical rows sitting down, and bent over bb rows. Oh, and they got a sick ass (no pun intended) glute machine so I did that on the 5251 cadence... gotta say, isolated hammys and ass a lot more than dead lifts

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addcd2gains said:
This does NOT work for me.. at least the 5251 cadence followed by 20 or 30 reps.. my rotator cuff was screaming bloody murder when I was going 5 seconds up and 5 seconds down. I first tried it on the machine press and then db press. Can do it. Ended up just doing my regular chest routine, dead lifts on 5251 cadence, close grip vertical rows sitting down, and bent over bb rows. Oh, and they got a sick ass (no pun intended) glute machine so I did that on the 5251 cadence... gotta say, isolated hammys and ass a lot more than dead lifts

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If you have joint problems, that's something you'll have to deal with more and more as you get leaner. Do the exercises you are comfortable with and have the least pain with.

Meanwhile, I suggest the following supplements for joints: glucosamine, chondroitin, msm, and calcium - daily.
 
wolfpackalpha said:
If you have joint problems, that's something you'll have to deal with more and more as you get leaner. Do the exercises you are comfortable with and have the least pain with.

Meanwhile, I suggest the following supplements for joints: glucosamine, chondroitin, msm, and calcium - daily.
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Are you saying my shoulder will hurt more often when I'm lean? Why?

I do have to say, much more sore today after doing that yesterday. So sore I skipped the gym and just went on a long walk. That 5251 cadence is sweet I'll be applying that wherever I can

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addcd2gains said:
Are you saying my shoulder will hurt more often when I'm lean? Why?
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In layman terms, the leaner you are, the less fat you have everywhere (including around your joints) and the drier everything is. You will lose both unwanted bodyfat and unwanted water retention, which will dry you out and cause more joint pain. You'll need to supplement with the products I suggested to make sure your joints are in good health.
 
wolfpackalpha said:
In layman terms, the leaner you are, the less fat you have everywhere (including around your joints) and the drier everything is. You will lose both unwanted bodyfat and unwanted water retention, which will dry you out and cause more joint pain. You'll need to supplement with the products I suggested to make sure your joints are in good health.
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Cool... would creatine help? I only ask cause you said I'd lose water retention

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Had a doc check up today.
BP 110/65
RHR 60 bpm
O2 level 100%

Feeling good

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Tubulin said:
Bro do you notice your stomach leaning out? What about vascularity and all that GW is suppose to do.
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I had a huge belly.. so big I rested my beer on it during football games lol. So it's hard to see a difference there. I have noticed my arms leaning out a lot. I think the vascularity is supposed to come from the s4, but maybe gw contributed as well. But no, not really. I've never been very vascular and am still probably 30%bf so even if they are more pronounced I can't tell. I workout in a hoodie so I can't say if they swell up during exercise

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addcd2gains said:
What's weird is I'm 50 lbs overweight and have perfect vitals lol.

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Fucking tren and GH man..also genetics. On lisinopril/hctz and n2guard my BP is usually about 130/80 or so. Without I would be like 160/100 or more on cycle.
 
addcd2gains said:
What's weird is I'm 50 lbs overweight and have perfect vitals lol.

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Bro the recommendation for vitals is such a load of crap. They keep changing them in order to sell more meds. Yours are great though. I need to have mine checked. Havent seen a doc in years lol
 
RickRock said:
Great numbers bro. GW does very well at lowering BP and resting heart rate
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Yeah for sure.
My O2 has always been around 90-95%. This was the first tone I had it checked since I have up smoking. I forgot my previous stats but can get them from doc.. I'll have to do that. What will ready be interesting is what my vitals do after my cycle

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My weight has gone up to 230... I haven't cheated my diet... a lot. Like I had a piece of pizza tuesday and that's it. Plus, I've never broken my 2400 calorie limit. My arms are getting very large. Is it possible that I put on 10 lbs of muscle in 3 weeks on s4?? Idk what the hell is going on, but I'm looking better every day... especially after I swole up haha

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addcd2gains said:
Lol but really... is s4 that anabolic? Obviously it's not all my arms lol I just started hitting legs and abs hard last week

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I dont know. But training legs heavy is extremely anabolic dor the whole body too. Not just the legs
 
addcd2gains said:
Lol but really... is s4 that anabolic? Obviously it's not all my arms lol I just started hitting legs and abs hard last week

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Really proud of you and your progress bro.. keep it up.

I always tell people, if you really work your legs tough... you will see all of your lifts go up and burn more bf. I work legs twice a week and I love legs days.

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addcd2gains said:
My weight has gone up to 230... I haven't cheated my diet... a lot. Like I had a piece of pizza tuesday and that's it. Plus, I've never broken my 2400 calorie limit. My arms are getting very large. Is it possible that I put on 10 lbs of muscle in 3 weeks on s4?? Idk what the hell is going on, but I'm looking better every day... especially after I swole up haha

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A few things to mention here.

1) Congratulations, your progress is outstanding, keep up the good work. It is clear your arms have gotten bigger.

2) You CANNOT cheat, the pizza will kick you out of ketosis, causing a whole host of problems with your re-composition. Please try to control yourself with the food intake.

3) This week you should not have a refeed. You need to run a full evolutionary diet for roughly 12-18 days before your next refeed. Why such a day range? it will be subjective depending on you and how we workout your progress with the diet. These days between evo and refeeds will get shorter as you get leaner.

4) For the members who did not read the whole 20 pages. addcd2gains just did a full 2 day refeed (carb load) after being on a low-carb/ketogenic diet for about 3 weeks+; therefore, some of the weight he's holding is glucose and water. This weight will shed and leave around 1-2lbs. If done correctly, a proper refeed will make your body anabolic and help you gain 0.25-0.75lbs. of muscle mass. (depending if natural vs. compounds used. The bigger you are the more your weight will fluctuate during refeeds.
 
wolfpackalpha said:
A few things to mention here.

1) Congratulations, your progress is outstanding, keep up the good work. It is clear your arms have gotten bigger.

2) You CANNOT cheat, the pizza will kick you out of ketosis, causing a whole host of problems with your re-composition. Please try to control yourself with the food intake.

3) This week you should not have a refeed. You need to run a full evolutionary diet for roughly 12-18 days before your next refeed. Why such a day range? it will be subjective depending on you and how we workout your progress with the diet. These days between evo and refeeds will get shorter as you get leaner.

4) For the members who did not read the whole 20 pages. addcd2gains just did a full 2 day refeed (carb load) after being on a low-carb/ketogenic diet for about 3 weeks+; therefore, some of the weight he's holding is glucose and water. This weight will shed and leave around 1-2lbs. If done correctly, a proper refeed will make your body anabolic and help you gain 0.25-0.75lbs. of muscle mass. (depending if natural vs. compounds used. The bigger you are the more your weight will fluctuate during refeeds.
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K, yeah I knew it would kick me out of ketosis... I just didn't really care atm. K, but I'll be doing a refeed on superbowl sunday.FOR SURE. I'll try to keep my macros intact, but if there was 1 day a year to not care, it's the super bowl. I'll be strict as fuck on my diet till then, maybe till saturday, that's up to you.

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I want to try something different for the next 2 weeks. I guess it's kind of like crossfit (I don't know a lot about cf) but this will give me something to measure and improve on, as I'm very competitive and love to see self improvement. I will do this 5 times a week for 2 weeks.

HIT routine: 2, 10 minute rounds with a 3 minute break in between.
I will always do this soon after I wake up, in a fasted state, and right after sarms dose.

2 minutes jumping jacks
2 minutes push up burpees
2 minutes lateral jumps
2 minutes high knees
2 minutes body squats

I'll have a timer going to signal when it's time to move on to the next exercise and will record my reps per each excercise. Let's see how conditioned I can get in 2 weeks cause I have nada right now. I did one round of this yesterday and felt like puking. Didn't record baseline reps so tomorrow be baseline.

I'll switch back to a weight lifting routine after the 2 weeks of HIT, and will alternate 2 weeks in gym, 2 weeks HIT. It will be interesting to see what happens to my numbers when I'm no longer taking GW.

My updates will look like this:

R1-R2
XX-XX /JJ
XX-XX /B
XX-XX /LJ
XX-XX /HK
XX-XX /S

XXX /TR ...(Total Reps)
 
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2 min of burpees without practise is too much; in addition, during the evolutionary diet such a high intensity training regiment is counterproductive.
 
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