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fizzisnumerouno
<b>Moderator</b>
Yeah click on those images and they direct you to bros on sites talking about fakes.
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Yeah click on those images and they direct you to bros on sites talking about fakes.
umm...you need to go back to google and click on those images. Follow them to steroid.com and the other boards they link to.
You will see they are posted in threads about people getting fake saizens. They are fake bro.
as long as you're not selling those fake saizens. But you said that you've never tried to sell anything to anyone here, right?
If so, no worries.
you keep saying this. OK, understood.
You're not a source and you've never tried to sell anyone here anything at all. Got it. I understand you.
defending yourself against whom? I've said what I know. And what I know is that you claim you have never tried to sell anything to anyone here.
I don't think you do your business here. I think you do your business in that gym locker room. I think you sell to your local bros. I don't know for a fact you've never sold anything to anyone here but those vitamins. I just know you say you haven't tried to. So I am agreeing with you.
I know you've never tried to sell anything to me. If anyone else comes along and says you tried to sell to them, then you have something to defend against.
fortitude18
Banned
I love all of you for the knowledge you share with me...Lets have a EVO hug for today and move on.....Which reminds me I need my estrogen pills
Oh damn. I slept in and haven't taken mine either! Hahaha
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fortitude18
Banned
Whenever I take to much time with my hair....I always remember go get your pills now
I don't see what the big deal is, CEO thinks they are fake and gave some good reasons why they might be fake. He was not attacking you paja, he was actually helping you or trying to help you. Hopefully someone can come along that has an actual script and personally picks them up at a pharmacy can chime in and we will see what they have to say. Never hurts to double check your sources, just because they have always been solid doesn't mean they will stay that way. We are talking about illegal drug transactions by the way.
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paja
Banned
Yes I know mi amigo I just try to Clear all this up
fizzisnumerouno
<b>Moderator</b>
^^^^ that is the objective for all of us, indeed.
paja
Banned
All is good but I didn't apreciate the word I scammed people here
Your a good bro Paja, we all know you would not ever intentionally scam anyone. I've said it before and I will say it again, we are all typing this and whoever reads it is unable to see our expressions or the tone of our voices so at times things can be misunderstood.
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paja
Banned
Thank you now I feel much better bro I know everybody stay away cause they know how king roll here
fizzisnumerouno
<b>Moderator</b>
Saizen HGH 26.5 iu
Nobody said that. But CEO pointing out that your hGH is CLEARLY corticosteroids and for you to initiate a little introspection is not a personal attack. A lot of bros, including you, have outright called him a liar based on his support of DS is an attack on him (which IS a personal attack). So the way I see it, CEO os just being the HNIC that he is and keeping it real.
Read my log. I support labs. Bc of free gear? No. Bc their gears work. I have always gotten along with you but the biggest problem I have is abscess87 and how you and analog clearly supported them. I don't buy the princeas87 baby daughter story either. So for some to have dealings with reconstituted gears and then hupocritically call out a guy on my team like CEO, and his support of DS That's when I step in and do my job. And for the record, I have never used DS and have zero stock in their presence other than the fact that they've given quality pharmaceutical gears to the bros on this open source forum.
Nobody said that. But CEO pointing out that your hGH is CLEARLY corticosteroids and for you to initiate a little introspection is not a personal attack. A lot of bros, including you, have outright called him a liar based on his support of DS is an attack on him (which IS a personal attack). So the way I see it, CEO os just being the HNIC that he is and keeping it real.
Read my log. I support labs. Bc of free gear? No. Bc their gears work. I have always gotten along with you but the biggest problem I have is abscess87 and how you and analog clearly supported them. I don't buy the princeas87 baby daughter story either. So for some to have dealings with reconstituted gears and then hupocritically call out a guy on my team like CEO, and his support of DS That's when I step in and do my job. And for the record, I have never used DS and have zero stock in their presence other than the fact that they've given quality pharmaceutical gears to the bros on this open source forum.
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Mrhat39
New Member
I try to make my tone sound mean... Lol
fortitude18
Banned
Bro I got mad respect for you and nobody would believe you scammed someone....Seriously you helped me a lot on EVO...
Mrhat39
New Member
Ceo doesn't think you are a slammer. He just likes to push people's buttons.
You are good bro.
paja
Banned
we all the respect I got for you did you think I got something to do with princess ?????
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I can tell you are a badass bro, must be running your keyboard through some badass pickups meant to be in a metal guitar lol
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fortitude18
Banned
Lets do a group Pin....LOL..JK
paja
Banned
Lol but I'm the last one lol
Casca
bodybuilder
God damn Paja I have been enjoying an afternoon with this kids and come to read all this. Get urself together, talk to me when u get out of timeout.
No need to get bent bro, over all this, CEO merely brought some information to the table. As always he is sharing his knowledge as well.
The only thing we have control over is ourselves, that is how we represent, earn respect and such.
U said ur not a source- then that's it. I think this got a bit out of control. Regroup and move on.
Load some more plates on, it's ur set!
No need to get bent bro, over all this, CEO merely brought some information to the table. As always he is sharing his knowledge as well.
The only thing we have control over is ourselves, that is how we represent, earn respect and such.
U said ur not a source- then that's it. I think this got a bit out of control. Regroup and move on.
Load some more plates on, it's ur set!
Like I said. I tried to tell you those were fake. If you want to start attacking me for trying to help you, fine. If I didn't like you why would I try to help you?
Then you call me a clown and act like some kind of victim, trying to get sympathy from your bros by saying I don't like you. Honestly, I don't think I know you well enough to know if I like you or not. But you are presenting a strong case.
Use your fake saizen bro. I don't care if you do. I just hope you're not trying to sell these fakes to anyone here.
Ceo, I should not pull you're chain all the time. I actually respect you and what you think more than you will ever know. But it is just so cute the way you're nose wrinkles, when you get angry......
Joking around is cool. But in context here after paja started attacking me for no reason then you say I'm lying? Yeah I probably missed the joke in being called a liar. My bad.
paja
Banned
You right bro sorry I think is the tren that give me this attitude
Thank god somebody sees it for what it was. I'm sitting here like WTF? God forbid I should try to tell someone their shit is fake and they got scammed.
Who said you scammed anyone here?
Why? Are you above being scammed? Sorry bro. You didn't get scammed at all I'm sure the stuff you got must be real. You happy now?
I'll never try to help you again.
Hahaha this. I was about to say that too. Anyway I'm glad things simmered down lately things have been getting thrown out of proportion. Evo is great because it lacks the drama of the other boards but it seems it's starting to trickle in slowly but surely.
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paja
Banned
Sometimes is hard to said I'm wrong or to apologize to other man but when I'm wrong I'm wrong CEO sorry bro I don't know what happen to me I think is the tren cause I'm not like that
Mrhat39
New Member
Hahaha.. It is called a tube screamer.
Mrhat39
New Member
Ceo you did miss the joke. Probably because it was a bad joke. I never said you were on the take from anyone. You are close with ds, every one knows that. I don't think you are a lier. If you thought I was actually trying to say you are, then I owe you an apology. I have to say this is hard to say. I am sorry.
I wish I could say I will never have a joke to come out wrong again. Small chance.
Ps. I know it doesn't look like it but I actually lisn to the things you say.
danielbiker
Proficient Brother
It's so good this argument is over now.Evo is a family and was kind of sad to see such good brothers in that position. You guys Paja and CEO are so valuable to all of us and I love to see understanding and harmony in the Evo family.
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fizzisnumerouno
<b>Moderator</b>
Saizen HGH 26.5 iu
My point is that nobody here knew abscess87 and they got a hall pass from you and CEO was the asshole interrogating them. So when I see posts like this picture for reconstituted gears getting hall passes by you when you have established a reputation here where bros follow you, granted the bros are new to the game but nonetheless, and then you diminish DS, again that's where I step in and keep the smell test "passing."
My point is that nobody here knew abscess87 and they got a hall pass from you and CEO was the asshole interrogating them. So when I see posts like this picture for reconstituted gears getting hall passes by you when you have established a reputation here where bros follow you, granted the bros are new to the game but nonetheless, and then you diminish DS, again that's where I step in and keep the smell test "passing."
fizzisnumerouno
<b>Moderator</b>
Saizen HGH 26.5 iu
^^^but i do see you apologized so we on the team appreciate that. I was posting the above to clarify. I know we make a lot of posts, sometimes clarification of the past is key. One thing I would like to point out is that matty asked the right questions as well.
^^^but i do see you apologized so we on the team appreciate that. I was posting the above to clarify. I know we make a lot of posts, sometimes clarification of the past is key. One thing I would like to point out is that matty asked the right questions as well.
fizzisnumerouno
<b>Moderator</b>
biggerben692000
Proficient Brother
I just ran across this thread about half an hour ago. CEO and I are VIP's over at The IRON Den. I've got to admit I didn't recognize him when I came over here to check this place out. We hadn't had any interaction until I came here.
I'll tell you this much, I won't overlook him again. This guy is sharp as a tack with the kind of nose I've gotten known for having. You guys that haven't been around long want to learn and at the same time stay safe and not get your money stolen all the while keeping your self respect? Stay close to this guy. CEO is valuable commodity. I'm sold. I want this guy on my team.
Lastly, I don't want to see those fucking fake saizen again in my neighborhood. I've started to see them the last couple of days and paja is the guy that's brought them. To be clear, I won't make them an issue as long as I don't see them again. CEO seems to have quarantined them here where the disease was birthed. Let's let them die here.
CEO is a gentleman, you won't see that word and my handle on the same page when a guy is trying to "help" members out with fake gh. GH is what is used to scam/steal/help members out of large sums of cash in the community.
I want to thank CEO for bringing this to my attention. The boards I'm from truly appreciate it and you.
I'll tell you this much, I won't overlook him again. This guy is sharp as a tack with the kind of nose I've gotten known for having. You guys that haven't been around long want to learn and at the same time stay safe and not get your money stolen all the while keeping your self respect? Stay close to this guy. CEO is valuable commodity. I'm sold. I want this guy on my team.
Lastly, I don't want to see those fucking fake saizen again in my neighborhood. I've started to see them the last couple of days and paja is the guy that's brought them. To be clear, I won't make them an issue as long as I don't see them again. CEO seems to have quarantined them here where the disease was birthed. Let's let them die here.
CEO is a gentleman, you won't see that word and my handle on the same page when a guy is trying to "help" members out with fake gh. GH is what is used to scam/steal/help members out of large sums of cash in the community.
I want to thank CEO for bringing this to my attention. The boards I'm from truly appreciate it and you.
fizzisnumerouno
<b>Moderator</b>
Saizen HGH 26.5 iu
Thank you for sharing. I've heard a lot about you and thank you for posting on behalf of my team member.
jerseydevil
Banned
I'm new to Evo as well. I can say without a doubt ceo is a good egg....We have some mutual friends that confirm that.
jbranken
Advanced Cyborg Brother
http://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-steroids-questions-answers/521418-saizen-8-8-mg-26-iu.html
http://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-...506118-saizen-8-8mg-easy-click-real-fake.html
Problem is, these have apparently been out there for a while. I'm not sure how isolated this is.
paja
Banned
Wait guys when I said honest I was talking cause everytime something happen she came and clarify the problem every mod here knows I'm not associate with her I always fight for my board I'm not rep any source here I just want to said that any body can get scammed brothers I buy stuff from my sources for years and I never hear no body complain about it if they fake or not I didn't know that
jbranken
Advanced Cyborg Brother
Have you tried a GH serum test on them? That would be the best way to know other than having it lab tested. Shoot it IM and get a GH serum test 4 hours later
paja
Banned
No bro cause is always do the job to me right now I'm running 4 iu 5 days a week and is working excellent if somebody here think I'm a scammer I deserve to be banned and that will find with me cause I just came here to learn I help people any way I can
Mrhat39
New Member
Paja, don't say that again. You have not tried to scam anyone. You may have been tricked by someone else. But we all know this can happen to the best of us. Which I think you are one of the best harted guys on hear. It all illegal drugs with out any guarantees. If we get beat by a source: we all hate it and move on.
paja
Banned
Wait bro those Saizen wasn't for sell that my personal stuff you trying to said that sold my Saizen in other board or something like that???? Cause I got an account in Roid for about 2 years and if you check I'm never there I never did or do bussiness there in meso I just get in last week just to clarified your point I got nothing to worry cause like we said any body can get scammed even me cause I the one that has a few bottle for my cycle
fizzisnumerouno
<b>Moderator</b>
Yeah. He's definitely an asset to the community, you are too brother.
jerseydevil
Banned
You are a good egg too man, and a good neighbor
fizzisnumerouno
<b>Moderator</b>
Saizen HGH 26.5 iu
If you are referring to abscess87, I am not suggesting you are a rep for them or ever were. What I am saying is that you were laying down lavish praises. Maybe she sent u pics? I don't know bro and I really don't care. I don't care if you did get a kickback from her. I don't think it matters if a good bro gets a kickback from a lab for helping them on boards, unless the lab is fugazi in anyway. I do not think this discussion is related to kickbacks. AT ALL. But again. When you are giving her a green kight and the members a green light to do business with her. Dropping lines like "remember brothers, no pain no gain in this game" when they clearly are experiencing excruciating pain after the bitch just done told brothers that she reconstitutes from "jugs" and then you turn around and fight with CEO on boogeymen arguments like saying he denies affiliation with DS when he hasn't. And then you call DS out and claim their claims of pharm are deceitful... That's where we take a TV timeout and bust out old threads. I don't care if this makes me look like a jerkoff or not, I'm calling it as I see it and as a mod that's my job. I will not use personal attacks and I will not get into a pissing contest but I will bark out facts.
So as it stands, I think I speak for the staff in pointing out that there are 4 labs we will stamp, I've dealt with two and feel blessed and honored I have:
1. AY (great rep)
2. Robolics (wicked tren)
3. Ds
4. BWL
And bros seem to be enjoying anabolshop. I have never used the latter 2 or a-shop but I do know that no lab will be strong-armed by anybody to survive here. We obviously WILL question anybody whether they're selling bananas or boldenone but no member will try ti reverse scan on my watch. I took this responsibility because of the money or some other perk? NOPE i dont get paid. I have 2 lucrative careers that I've been blessed to have. The reason I am here is very easy. In this order:
1. The members (they keep this place running)
2. WPA and Dylan. I can tell you right now if big D asked me to build a fuckin house I'd ask him if he wanted one of those toilets that rich women use to clean their vag.
3. The mod team
If you are referring to abscess87, I am not suggesting you are a rep for them or ever were. What I am saying is that you were laying down lavish praises. Maybe she sent u pics? I don't know bro and I really don't care. I don't care if you did get a kickback from her. I don't think it matters if a good bro gets a kickback from a lab for helping them on boards, unless the lab is fugazi in anyway. I do not think this discussion is related to kickbacks. AT ALL. But again. When you are giving her a green kight and the members a green light to do business with her. Dropping lines like "remember brothers, no pain no gain in this game" when they clearly are experiencing excruciating pain after the bitch just done told brothers that she reconstitutes from "jugs" and then you turn around and fight with CEO on boogeymen arguments like saying he denies affiliation with DS when he hasn't. And then you call DS out and claim their claims of pharm are deceitful... That's where we take a TV timeout and bust out old threads. I don't care if this makes me look like a jerkoff or not, I'm calling it as I see it and as a mod that's my job. I will not use personal attacks and I will not get into a pissing contest but I will bark out facts.
So as it stands, I think I speak for the staff in pointing out that there are 4 labs we will stamp, I've dealt with two and feel blessed and honored I have:
1. AY (great rep)
2. Robolics (wicked tren)
3. Ds
4. BWL
And bros seem to be enjoying anabolshop. I have never used the latter 2 or a-shop but I do know that no lab will be strong-armed by anybody to survive here. We obviously WILL question anybody whether they're selling bananas or boldenone but no member will try ti reverse scan on my watch. I took this responsibility because of the money or some other perk? NOPE i dont get paid. I have 2 lucrative careers that I've been blessed to have. The reason I am here is very easy. In this order:
1. The members (they keep this place running)
2. WPA and Dylan. I can tell you right now if big D asked me to build a fuckin house I'd ask him if he wanted one of those toilets that rich women use to clean their vag.
3. The mod team
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fizzisnumerouno
<b>Moderator</b>
Saizen HGH 26.5 iu
I'll call you state-farm my bro. State-pharm even bahahaha.
You are a good egg too man, and a good neighbor
I'll call you state-farm my bro. State-pharm even bahahaha.
jerseydevil
Banned
Well played brother, lol
ok bro.lets stop the bs please.Now im not going to argue the point the you did or didnt know they were fake or even if they are fake because i have no idea,i have never used nothing but hyges,jins and bluetops.
but i find it highly disrespectful that you are going to sit here saying no harm done if they are fake,because it was personal stash because you know dam well you tried to sell me saizen hgh in pms .i have a huge problem with it!.i dont even get a explanation via pm ..nothing
you need to get around to checking shit out better at $23 a iu buddy and be 100 percent sure its legit
i hope this is a mistake and everyone is wrong but just you attitude of no harm done if they are fake is just total fucking bullshit and its starting to irk me.people could have got hurt out of this,including me.your credibility has fallen a ton in my book and whoever dont see that needs to get their head out of their ass .
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fortitude18
Banned
I agree with this 100 percent.....I know many people tell me CEO is spot on all the time.SO I follow his post regularly....I am new to EVO in last 2 months, but I must say I think Paja is straight up honest guy as they come.....I contacted him soon after I joined EVO...I asked him I need some stuff ASAP for a client so I was going to go with Bluerock since I saw it everywhere....Paja was the one that told me to chill and to stick with DS until private sources are available to me....SO that is what I did and thank got it saved me a 1000 dollars......Over 2 month period he helped me a lot for a newbie to EVO....I appreciated that.....Never has he pushed gear on me....9 out of 10 times he said DS BWL or Robolics bro.....These places have all been positive experience so far thanks to PAJA......I think both members want the same thing for the most part....We all want good sources at a fair price....Being able to bounce stuff off good guys is essential to staying safe in this game.....In the end I have a huge appreciation for both you guys for making EVO a special place.....EF PM boards I been on for years and it is completely refreshing not to get people trying to sell you bullshit all the time......I am loving EVO so thank you all you mods and VIP's for sharing your experiences and keeping the board on the straight and narrow....
guys like ceo and arabian are as good as they come and they are at the very top of list bar none ,in making this place as good and safe as it has become.you guys have no idea how hard these guys fight behind they scenes to keep you guys safe.whatever you see on the board its tenfold behind the scenes and a constant struggle,trust me.god if you only knew what a struggle it is..
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paja
Banned
My brother you ask me for the Saizen and I tell you I can get it for you the same price I pay I never pm trying to push the Saizen to you, you should know better than that, I just try to help people out never to make money from you or anybody out
fortitude18
Banned
I believe you 100 percent and I appreciate very much....Thanks to all that Lookout for EVO bros and gals....
fizzisnumerouno
<b>Moderator</b>
Saizen HGH 26.5 iu
I'm sayin idc if anybody is a source or anybody is getting paid. This isn't some NWO conspiracy science. That's not my business to call anybody out. And if you refer me to a lab and you as a vet, assuming you are a vet, never promote a lab that sells illegitimate gears then it is what it is and comes with being an open source board. I applaud WPA and big D for managing this the way they do because I've seen boards where you give a neg review of a lab and they have mods edit it or flame you. That does not happen here, though i've seen you allude to the mods not having members backs and try to postulate YOU DO.
But when wolves may be trying to pose as sheep or when the staff is getting called out by people such as yourself, that is my business. I have watched you on your thread try to play as a Robin Hood to these members as if we the mods are on the take and here for our own gain. NOBODY has been burnt by our recommendation. The only circumstance was RFJ and Arabian made well and good on that. I will always get the back of my team and WPA's reps Analog. PERIOD. And if a good bro comes to me from a source that hasn't caused abscesses and says he is getting PM's from people saying his lab needs a member's backing, I'm not allowing that.
I'm sayin idc if anybody is a source or anybody is getting paid. This isn't some NWO conspiracy science. That's not my business to call anybody out. And if you refer me to a lab and you as a vet, assuming you are a vet, never promote a lab that sells illegitimate gears then it is what it is and comes with being an open source board. I applaud WPA and big D for managing this the way they do because I've seen boards where you give a neg review of a lab and they have mods edit it or flame you. That does not happen here, though i've seen you allude to the mods not having members backs and try to postulate YOU DO.
But when wolves may be trying to pose as sheep or when the staff is getting called out by people such as yourself, that is my business. I have watched you on your thread try to play as a Robin Hood to these members as if we the mods are on the take and here for our own gain. NOBODY has been burnt by our recommendation. The only circumstance was RFJ and Arabian made well and good on that. I will always get the back of my team and WPA's reps Analog. PERIOD. And if a good bro comes to me from a source that hasn't caused abscesses and says he is getting PM's from people saying his lab needs a member's backing, I'm not allowing that.
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The team that formulated this site has nothing but the best interest in mind for the members on this board. So just remember, the advice, the actions and recommendations of the mods is always for the forums protection.
WPA, Dylan, Cane, Arabian, CEO, Steve, RickRock, Fizz, JBRANKEN are all here to serve the members and provide a safe environment for us to live out our lifestyles. Hopefully you see these guys as assets, because they are all the reason why we have such a great place to exchange information and sources that work, and sources that are garbage.
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WPA, Dylan, Cane, Arabian, CEO, Steve, RickRock, Fizz, JBRANKEN are all here to serve the members and provide a safe environment for us to live out our lifestyles. Hopefully you see these guys as assets, because they are all the reason why we have such a great place to exchange information and sources that work, and sources that are garbage.
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Wow...thank you brother. I am honored and humbled by your post. You are one of the few guys I look up to on the boards, so this truly means a lot.
I've seen Ben around the boards (TID and Meso mainly) for a while now. I've always liked the way he puts the fire to a new source, and the knowledge and experience he brings in every post. I've learned a lot from reading his posts. Watching Ben is like watching a goldsmith work. He will hold a source in the fire for a long time to burn away the impurities. And if there is nothing but impurities, the source disappears and Ben starts over on the next one. Like he said, we haven't had any interaction (not that I can recall, but it's been a lot of years), but I have seen this man and followed his posts because he knows his shit. Ben's been around this game for a long, long time and his knowledge runs deep in every part of it. If anyone knows his GH it is BiggerBen, no doubt about that at all.
If anyone wants to learn a lot about GH, AAS, sources and some damn good history lessons about all that, follow BiggerBen's posts. I'm lucky enough to know admin at TID and have VIP status over there, where I can read some of Ben's stuff that might not get shared in the public eye. But even without that access one can learn a lion's share of info from following Ben.
I respect that Paja acknowledged that he was dupped with the product. the other circumstances are swirling out of control here.
I was once influenced here by a respected member comments and still have not seen any comments of retractions even when I pointed it out. Ive taken warnings not to call certain people out!
people get burned. mistakes get made. even by long timers. But people whom admit mistakes get some credit in my book.
I believe no bad intentions where in these circumstances.
I was once influenced here by a respected member comments and still have not seen any comments of retractions even when I pointed it out. Ive taken warnings not to call certain people out!
people get burned. mistakes get made. even by long timers. But people whom admit mistakes get some credit in my book.
I believe no bad intentions where in these circumstances.
Well now hold on a minute. Paja has said over and over that he is not a source and has never even tried to sell anything to anyone here. And honestly, if he is a source (which I am sure he is, I mean only people I've ever seen post pics of a big ass box full of gear are sources) why hide it? This is an OPEN SOURCE board. Nothing wrong with being a source here. No reason to hide it at all. But now it seems paja has tried to sell something besides vitamins and his lipo fat burner injectable stuff...
And the person shows up...
I was believing paja when he said he never tried to sell anything to members here (other than vitamins and that lipo stuff), but now it seems paja did try to sell something to a member (mod in this case)? And of all things it was fake saizen?
Again, this is an open source board so there are no real rules to break when it comes to sourcing. You can even be a source and claim you're not a source and you won't be breaking rules. Maybe he just didn't want everyone to know he is a source? I can understand that. I mean why draw extra attention to yourself? But could there be another reason to lie about not being a source and just sourcing on the DL after building up trust with members as a vet and expert?
Now, if there was one person who he tried to sell fake saizen to, maybe there are others? Did anyone actually BUY any "saizen" HGH from paja (or anything else)?
If you did, what you got is NOT HGH. And there is nothing we (mods/admin) can do about it. This is all buyer beware. But now it is out there, so the buyer has all the info.
And the person shows up...
I was believing paja when he said he never tried to sell anything to members here (other than vitamins and that lipo stuff), but now it seems paja did try to sell something to a member (mod in this case)? And of all things it was fake saizen?
Again, this is an open source board so there are no real rules to break when it comes to sourcing. You can even be a source and claim you're not a source and you won't be breaking rules. Maybe he just didn't want everyone to know he is a source? I can understand that. I mean why draw extra attention to yourself? But could there be another reason to lie about not being a source and just sourcing on the DL after building up trust with members as a vet and expert?
Now, if there was one person who he tried to sell fake saizen to, maybe there are others? Did anyone actually BUY any "saizen" HGH from paja (or anything else)?
If you did, what you got is NOT HGH. And there is nothing we (mods/admin) can do about it. This is all buyer beware. But now it is out there, so the buyer has all the info.
paja
Banned
CEO you know I buy big boxes of alpha products and I never sell one here and you know that In EVO I'm not a source please let stop I apologize to you already there no prove I sell any of my big box here why if I'm a source going to recommend black widow and ROBOLICS to other member and not my stuff don't you think I'm not going to apologize no more and defend no more my self I know what going on and I know where all this came from
jerseydevil
Banned
Wow is all I can say...
first of all you thats not how it happened.you pmed me because i said out on the open board i couldnt afford pharma grade hgh and i use hyges.
all im saying i know you help people on here get shit, i aint the only one you have talked to about it or have help get things.
if you are going to do that be more careful about it and dont come on here saying"no harm done,it was my personal stash".. when you willingly selling some of your personal stash to members!there is alot of harm done or alot of harm that can be done..and yea im pissed i came pretty dam close to getting scammed..intentional or not.
this is me talking as a member not a mod
I don't know what you do or do not sell here besides injectable vitamins and that lipo stuff. I know you told me you never tried to sell anything here, but hurricane said you tried to sell him fake saizens. I've known hurricane for about 7-8 years now and I talk to him off the boards as well. I trust him and I know he wouldn't lie to me.
I never thought you tried to sell anything here because I know you've recommended BWL, Robo and DS. I have always thought that you are a source though. I just figured you kept your sales to people you know personally, not online. That's the truth. And who cares? Sell AAS and GH all you want. I don't care one bit. And like I said, even if you are selling here, there's no rules against it. This is an open source forum. I don't know how I can make any of that any more clear?
But now hurricane came and said this, so now I am asking if there are any other members that might have actually bought any of these fake Saizen GH from you. You have made it clear that you didn't know they are fake, and even said they worked for you and everyone you "helped" them with (which is code for "sold" them to). If that is true, then you just sold fakes not knowing they were fake. It happens to sources a lot. The thing is what do they do about it afterwards?
It's nothing personal. It sounds like you got scammed and didn't know it. But you tried to sell them to at least one person here. I can't just let that go and sweep it under the rug. I have to try to help and protect the members here at evo.
So if you did actually sell them to anyone here, they need to know they bought fakes. That's my job to point out. I don't know if you did or didn't sell them to anyone here. That is why I am asking publicly. If nobody posts publicly that they bought from you, then I assume either nobody actually bought from you, or they are just taking it up with you in private.
fizzisnumerouno
<b>Moderator</b>
Like I said man. I'm not questioning your service to our country. That's irrelevant to the conversation and if all that you said is factual then you deserve all of the credit in the world for that service; especially nam. I'm talking bodybuilding as it is relevant to the board.
fizzisnumerouno
<b>Moderator</b>
You've posted them before.
fizzisnumerouno
<b>Moderator</b>
Saizen HGH 26.5 iu
I question your professionalism because you feel comfortable going off on mods. I question you because you pushed an abscess infected lab with a very emotional story. I, like the members, trusted you. Heck, I even gave you my stamp for who should be confided in after a few scammers came on board. But your perpetual cynicism wore thin with a lot of bros. Let's not forget you called me out as a scammer when I 1st joined as a rep.
The problem with dishonesty is that you find it very difficult to trust somebody after they blow it. I do not know what to believe with you. But at this point. I'd buyer beware with you Analog.
I question your professionalism because you feel comfortable going off on mods. I question you because you pushed an abscess infected lab with a very emotional story. I, like the members, trusted you. Heck, I even gave you my stamp for who should be confided in after a few scammers came on board. But your perpetual cynicism wore thin with a lot of bros. Let's not forget you called me out as a scammer when I 1st joined as a rep.
The problem with dishonesty is that you find it very difficult to trust somebody after they blow it. I do not know what to believe with you. But at this point. I'd buyer beware with you Analog.
fizzisnumerouno
<b>Moderator</b>
Saizen HGH 26.5 iu
There seems to be a disconnect on what exactly my intentions are, just like when we first crossed paths. You think I have some calculated tinfoil hat agenda. I am doing what's best for this board. I am not making personal attacks. I am doing what's right for this board i have not attacked you at all. I HAVE pointed out observational evidence. In the future, when the truth is revealed, as it typically does when you have the likes of good bros with noses like a dogo argentino (which gets it's nose from a blue tick), some how much of your story is accurate will be revealed.
There seems to be a disconnect on what exactly my intentions are, just like when we first crossed paths. You think I have some calculated tinfoil hat agenda. I am doing what's best for this board. I am not making personal attacks. I am doing what's right for this board i have not attacked you at all. I HAVE pointed out observational evidence. In the future, when the truth is revealed, as it typically does when you have the likes of good bros with noses like a dogo argentino (which gets it's nose from a blue tick), some how much of your story is accurate will be revealed.
fizzisnumerouno
<b>Moderator</b>
As far as your pro-card? I appreciate the pictures but:
You said in a thread here that you got your pro card in 1989 (complete with pics of World's Gym and Golds Gym membership cards - NOT IFBB PRO CARD)...
http://www.evolutionary.org/forums/source-talk/gym-cards-old-beat-1196.html?highlight=pro+card
Then you said you got that pro card in 1994 in this other thread where you are advertising your Pure Labs vitamins and AAS and cynically proclaiming yourself the king amongst us peasants ...
http://www.evolutionary.org/forums/...-pure-lab-family-2293.html?highlight=pro+card
Then you said in another thread, where you claimed to know Jen Hendershott, that you got your pro card the same year Jen placed 2nd at the same event.
http://www.evolutionary.org/forums/...s/wud-u-choose-3229.html?viewfull=1#post49536
Too bad Jen didn't start competing until 1997. And best I can tell the event she got 2nd at before winning her pro card was the 1998 North Americans...which would make you...DEXTER JACKSON! If you are DJ, then I apologize for calling you out because I have no business calling you out even if you are fraudulent because you shouldn't be revealing who you are. Additionally, that would explain how you get the highest grade lab gears available and why an American Anabolics company would risk their license and federal investigation to supply you with their gears.
You said in a thread here that you got your pro card in 1989 (complete with pics of World's Gym and Golds Gym membership cards - NOT IFBB PRO CARD)...
http://www.evolutionary.org/forums/source-talk/gym-cards-old-beat-1196.html?highlight=pro+card
Then you said you got that pro card in 1994 in this other thread where you are advertising your Pure Labs vitamins and AAS and cynically proclaiming yourself the king amongst us peasants ...
http://www.evolutionary.org/forums/...-pure-lab-family-2293.html?highlight=pro+card
Then you said in another thread, where you claimed to know Jen Hendershott, that you got your pro card the same year Jen placed 2nd at the same event.
http://www.evolutionary.org/forums/...s/wud-u-choose-3229.html?viewfull=1#post49536
Too bad Jen didn't start competing until 1997. And best I can tell the event she got 2nd at before winning her pro card was the 1998 North Americans...which would make you...DEXTER JACKSON! If you are DJ, then I apologize for calling you out because I have no business calling you out even if you are fraudulent because you shouldn't be revealing who you are. Additionally, that would explain how you get the highest grade lab gears available and why an American Anabolics company would risk their license and federal investigation to supply you with their gears.
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Redam
Banned
Exactly, get your popcorn out and watch from the sidelines....not really your place to step in and put an end to it. Is that more clear bro?
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Redam
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Simmer down buddy no need to get hostile with me. But whatever do your thing. I'm not getting into an argument with anyone. It isn't worth it
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