PCT and SARMS Question

[Dudley Dawson]

Hey guys, just need some advice on PCT/Sarms. I was on a Test E 250/Deca 250 cycle for 10 weeks. Pinned The test twice a week and the Deca once per week. I stopped the Deca 3 weeks before I started the PCT and the Test 2 weeks before the PCT. My PCT is: Day 1 100 Clomid/40 Nolva followed by 50 clomid and 20 nolva for 4weeks. Then 25 Clomid/10 Nolva for the last week. I am in the final week now. I also added 12.5mg of Arom in EOD. I just saw the Perfect PCT article and picked up some HCG ES, N2Guard, Osterine and Cardarine. Now since I am almost done with my PCT, I wanted to know if I should start in with the SARMS or save them for my next PCT. I plan on taking the HCG and N2Guard anyway to clean out my system. I'm feeling pretty good and I got labs scheduled for Friday. Thanks for the advice.

 

[gearhead]

bro sounds like a fairly week pct...so i would keep going for another 4 weeks with sarms/hcgenerate es/n2guard...will help you bridge/post-pct and recover better....

 

[Dudley Dawson]

Thanks Gearhead. Rookie mistake. I will do just that.

 

[muskate]

Hey guys, just need some advice on PCT/Sarms. I was on a Test E 250/Deca 250 cycle for 10 weeks. Pinned The test twice a week and the Deca once per week. I stopped the Deca 3 weeks before I started the PCT and the Test 2 weeks before the PCT. My PCT is: Day 1 100 Clomid/40 Nolva followed by 50 clomid and 20 nolva for 4weeks. Then 25 Clomid/10 Nolva for the last week. I am in the final week now. I also added 12.5mg of Arom in EOD. I just saw the Perfect PCT article and picked up some HCG ES, N2Guard, Osterine and Cardarine. Now since I am almost done with my PCT, I wanted to know if I should start in with the SARMS or save them for my next PCT. I plan on taking the HCG and N2Guard anyway to clean out my system. I'm feeling pretty good and I got labs scheduled for Friday. Thanks for the advice.

Your PCT was very week. I would extend it another 30 days (might as well do 30 days instead of 28 so you finish off each bottle)

Dose the following for the next 30 days:

HCGenerate ES 5 capsules/day
n2guard 7 capsules/day
clomid 25mg/day
nolvadex 20mg/day
aromasin 7.5mg EOD
ostarine 12.5mg/day
cardarine gw 20mg/day (10mg AM 10mg PM)

 

[Dudley Dawson]

Thanks, I will follow this and get some labs done soon after.

 

[LevButlerov]

Your PCT was very week. I would extend it another 30 days (might as well do 30 days instead of 28 so you finish off each bottle)

Dose the following for the next 30 days:

HCGenerate ES 5 capsules/day
n2guard 7 capsules/day
clomid 25mg/day
nolvadex 20mg/day
aromasin 7.5mg EOD
ostarine 12.5mg/day
cardarine gw 20mg/day (10mg AM 10mg PM)

@muskate got you well covered on that one. For future cycles, you can do a very good bridge with SARMs, so you may as well just do the perfect PCT, and the rest of SARMs can be used for bridging.

 

[LongEsterKevin]

http://www.evolutionary.org/the-perfect-post-cycle-therapy-pct/

The holy grail.

 

[stevesmi]

this is a great question and I will tell you that SERM only pct's do not help you once you come off of them and you crash back down. so you definitely should stretch out your pct 4 more weeks without the SERM's

 

[Dudley Dawson]

this is a great question and I will tell you that SERM only pct's do not help you once you come off of them and you crash back down. so you definitely should stretch out your pct 4 more weeks without the SERM's

Thanks for the advice, so I should continue with the Clomid and Nolva at 25/20 with the HCG ES and N2Guard? Leave the SERMs for a complete Perfect PCT on the next cycle.

 

[Dudley Dawson]

Edit: meant to say SARMS not SERMs on the last part.

 

[MikeSnow]

Bro here is my PCT Im currently running so you get an idea.. serms can be ran longer than 2 weeks if you want a FULL recovery

Clomid 100/100/50/50/25
Nolva 20/20/20/10/10
Aromasin 6.5mg e3d
HcGen ES 5 tabs ED
GW 20mg pre workout
Ostarine 10mg/day

Few other natty T boosts and cycle supports

 

[hurricane]

Bro here is my PCT Im currently running so you get an idea.. serms can be ran longer than 2 weeks if you want a FULL recovery

Clomid 100/100/50/50/25
Nolva 20/20/20/10/10
Aromasin 6.5mg e3d
HcGen ES 5 tabs ED
GW 20mg pre workout
Ostarine 10mg/day

Few other natty T boosts and cycle supports

this is a strong pct. clomid at 100 is a bit high for my taste by overall very strong

 

[Dudley Dawson]

Thanks Mike, I will definitely be running this after my next cycle. For now I'm going to continue with the Clomid and Nolva with HCG and N2guard. I'll keep the SARMS for the next PCT and run that properly.

 

[Jrbdallas]

Thanks Gearhead. Rookie mistake. I will do just that.

It happens. Gearhead and muskate gave you a solid run though

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[Dudley Dawson]

Just an update, I did some labs and as of 9/17 my LH and FSH are <0.1. My Test Levels are: Test Free: 52.2, Total 315, Test Bioavailabe 105.8. So I'm still shut down. I've been running HCGen ES (5 caps a day) and N2Guard (9 caps a day) since 9/10 and it seems to be helping. Going to start back up again on the Clomid 25/25/25/25, Nolva 20/20/20/20, Arom 7.5 EOD today. I have some GW and Osta on hand. Should I be running these as well. My plan was to save them for the Perfect PCT after my next cycle. But I can always get some more.

 

[Dudley Dawson]

I'm going to start in on thee SARMS tomorrow. 20mg of GW split AM/PM and 12.5 of OSTA per day for 30 days. Will post up a log on these and run a new set of labs at the end of Oct.

 

[Dudley Dawson]

OK, I tried the SARMS. 10mg of GW and 12.5 of the Osta. The taste really wasn't as bad. Chased it down with some apple juice. Didn't even really notice it. Also, I've decided to not use the clomid. Just Nolva at 40/20/20/10.

 

[gearhead]

OK, I tried the SARMS. 10mg of GW and 12.5 of the Osta. The taste really wasn't as bad. Chased it down with some apple juice. Didn't even really notice it. Also, I've decided to not use the clomid. Just Nolva at 40/20/20/10.

bro thats fine ...just make sure to add hcgenerate in pct....

 

[Dudley Dawson]

I love the HCGen. I think I'm going to run it year round and use HCGen ES during PCT's. Stuff is great.

 

[Dudley Dawson]

It's been almost two weeks since I started using the SARMS. GW at 20mg a day and OSTA at 12.5. I have to say, I love the GW. I've never had so much cardio endurance than I do now. I'm in better shape than when I got out of Basic training over 15 years ago. Was wondering if I should bump up the OSTA to 25mg. I was just using it as part of the perfect PCT.

 

[gearhead]

It's been almost two weeks since I started using the SARMS. GW at 20mg a day and OSTA at 12.5. I have to say, I love the GW. I've never had so much cardio endurance than I do now. I'm in better shape than when I got out of Basic training over 15 years ago. Was wondering if I should bump up the OSTA to 25mg. I was just using it as part of the perfect PCT.

bro if you're using it in the pct phase...keep it @12.5mgs to reduce suppression...at 25mgs those are cycle doses not for pct aid...

 

[muskate]

It's been almost two weeks since I started using the SARMS. GW at 20mg a day and OSTA at 12.5. I have to say, I love the GW. I've never had so much cardio endurance than I do now. I'm in better shape than when I got out of Basic training over 15 years ago. Was wondering if I should bump up the OSTA to 25mg. I was just using it as part of the perfect PCT.

I am happy to hear you are liking the products.

If you are using it as part of your PCT - keep the ostarine at 12.5mg. Take 4-6 weeks off after your PCT and then you could run the full SARMS triple stack: http://www.evolutionary.org/the-SARMS-triple-stack-protocol
The triple stack is cardarine GW + ostarine + s4

After the triple stack, run a mini PCT. 4 weeks of the following:
clomid at 25mg/day
nolvadex at 20mg/day
HCGenerate ES at 5 capsules/day
n2guard at 3 capsules/day

You can get everything you need off sarms1.com, n2bm.com and ag-guys.com

 

[MikeSnow]

you can never really go wrong with clomid nolva and having some aromasin on hand in a pct

 

[stevesmi]

It's been almost two weeks since I started using the SARMS. GW at 20mg a day and OSTA at 12.5. I have to say, I love the GW. I've never had so much cardio endurance than I do now. I'm in better shape than when I got out of Basic training over 15 years ago. Was wondering if I should bump up the OSTA to 25mg. I was just using it as part of the perfect PCT.

I run osta at 25mg a day myself

and yes the GW is awesome. it makes such a difference, I feel like I have so much more endurance

 

[LevButlerov]

I would suggest to run Ostarine at 12.5 mgs while on PCT. It will give the effects you need on PCT at such dosages. Regarding Cardarine GW, I have never come across such a powerful endurance boosting compound.

 

[Jrbdallas]

you can never really go wrong with clomid nolva and having some aromasin on hand in a pct

Just the basics. The sarms help but the clomid nolva and aromasin with a test booster you can't go wrong with

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