Wife busted me for AAS & SARMS. What next?

[jackedtothemax]

I started a cycle three weeks ago. Deca 75/week + T 100/week + Winny 100/week + Var 10/day + Proviron 25/day + GW and Osta.

Wife said that she knew that I was up to something. Thought that I might be cheating on her.

She said that I smell different and that my cum tastes different. I'm pretty damn sure that she gear that I've gotten on Evo is legit and that explains the pumps that I'm getting in my arms and legs, which is something that I'm not hiding very well.

She was angry about what I might be doing to my body by using gear. She was also angry for lying to her. Now she is angry because she says that I'm being selfish, inconsiderate, and that using gear is the same as using meth or cocaine.

WTF and I am going to do now? I really only told her about the SARMS, but she knows about the AAS... I think that she went through my things while I was out of the house yesterday.

Do I lower my doses, cut out one or more compounds, or do I do PCT and come off for now?

 

[Punk434]

Try hitting her.


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[malibuba]

Finish your cycle I would say. And talk it over with her afterwards. If possible. But if that's going to make things between you and your wife worse, quit and start pct. It isn't worth possibly damaging a marriage. Juicing and making gains shouldn't me more important than family imho brother

 

[stretch512]

Just come clean with her, explain your goals, your research. Honestly my ex wasn't crazy about it until she saw the change in physique, libido and confidence. Unfortunately for me though she had some deep seeded problems that I could not handle so it was best that we parted ways. Honesty is the best policy.

 

[Punk434]

Dude if your wife thinks being on steroids is the same as using meth or cocaine, you might need to leave her, because that's the dumbest shit I've ever heard. Definitely hit her.


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[stevesmi]

this shit needs to be discussed beforehand and a mutual agreement has to be done..

if you are spending the mortgage check on AAS then she is 100% right.. but if you have disposable income and you want to spend it on AAS just like she might spend it on a dress then she needs to compromise.

I agree with her you shouldn't have snuck around, if a chick was using hormones behind your back you probably would be upset too. I don't see this turning out well. however what is her problem with sarms? they are legal. if she isn't going to let you even use them then you seriously need to educate her on PED's or else if this lifestyle is important to you then you need to try and work this out.

 

[-SD-]

This is something you should have discussed before getting married. Its very hard to hide a complete cycle from a spouse for several months on end. Philosophically and in practicality you might be right but to her perspective her husband is buying and using illegal drugs that can potentially harm and lying about it. You can try your best to educate her on the subject, even using yourself on cycle as proof positive, but if that doesnt work, you will have a choice to make.

 

[jackedtothemax]

this shit needs to be discussed beforehand and a mutual agreement has to be done..

if you are spending the mortgage check on AAS then she is 100% right.. but if you have disposable income and you want to spend it on AAS just like she might spend it on a dress then she needs to compromise.

I agree with her you shouldn't have snuck around, if a chick was using hormones behind your back you probably would be upset too.

Yeah Bro, I should not have been hiding it. She was pissed about the money that I spent, but she knows that the money isn't coming back.

I'm a pussy and that's why I didn't just tell her what I was doing. Plus, I was concerned that she would judge me. Looks like I was right about that much.

Ironically, she is having some weight control issues and I was hoping to find a way to help her shape up (I bought her some Ephedra and Anavar), in addition to reaching my goals, but it is clear now that she does not approve of AAS.

 

[stretch512]

Just hash it out - have some amazing sex and look too the future. No more sneaking around though ; )

 

[stevesmi]

Ironically, she is having some weight control issues and I was hoping to find a way to help her shape up (I bought her some Ephedra and Anavar), in addition to reaching my goals, but it is clear now that she does not approve of AAS.

see that is the thing right there.. I only date chicks who are healthy and lead an active lifestyle like me. I would never date someone who ate mcdonalds and who was out of shape. all my gf's I've dated have been fine with my use and I always show off at the gym when I outlift other guys.. so they like that shit.

so what is happening here is she just doesn't understand the 'gym life' ... this exposes a bigger issue for you.. do you want to be with someone who doesn't support or engage in the 'lifestyle'? a chick who would rather eat at mcdonalds then whole foods? matching lifestyles with a person is very important.

 

[44Blues]

At first this looks like a tough one but the more I think about it it's not. From here on out just be completely honest with her. Sit her down and have a talk and tell her exactly why you took them. Also, explain to her why you hid them from her. Maybe you were scared or thought she would judge you. Maybe you hid them because you knew if you told her she would say, "no, absolutely not, I don't approve!" Which it sounds like is what she would have said if she equates gear to Meth and Coke. You could attempt to change her opinion on gear but at this point I don't think you're going to get very far with that. I doubt she's in the mood to listen to you trying to talk her "off the ledge" because to her (if she's like most women) it's the lying and deception that's going to bother her most. Your problem in the long run isn't going to be about the gear, it's going to be that you hid something from her.

It's time to rebuild the trust, how you do that only you and her can figure that out because it's your relationship.

Just be honest, if she knows you well enough, which it seems she does (she sensed you were up to something) then that will be the first step in making this right.

Good Luck Bro!

 

[KC1985]

Try hitting her.


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Literally - lol'ed

 

[jackedtothemax]

This is something you should have discussed before getting married. Its very hard to hide a complete cycle from a spouse for several months on end. Philosophically and in practicality you might be right but to her perspective her husband is buying and using illegal drugs that can potentially harm and lying about it. You can try your best to educate her on the subject, even using yourself on cycle as proof positive, but if that doesnt work, you will have a choice to make.

Thanks for your input Bro.

I feel so stupid right now.

Maybe I am lying to myself. Maybe I am stupid. I don't think of myself as a liar. I feel a lot of guilt when I do lie, so I try hard to avoid lying.

I tried to educate her about it so that I can continue the cycle. I rehashed the last 2 yrs of chasing doctors and therapists to help me heal my injured leg, but she just went on about how that I am risking my health to avoid pain. I reminded her that I have done everything that the doctors and therapists told me to do and that NONE of their medicines and NONE of their treatments have helped. I even reminded her how sick that I got when I did a course of Prednisone. Did you know that even doctors will not prescribe Prednisone more than once, maybe twice per year because it does so much damage to the body?

We've been married for a while. She was asking whether I was using AAS in the past. She said that she thought that I was. She is right. My work hours were different in the past so that she didn't catch on before because we were like ships passing in the night. I have always used lower doses of gear so that it was never obvious... just suspicious. The only exception is when I was in my early 20's that I did two cycles of high doses (600 Deca/week + 600 TE/week), but I didn't know her at that time, but I did tell her when we met that I had tried AAS.

This is my first cycle since 2011 and if I'm noticing the muscle growth then others must be noticing too.

 

[dreckis604]

It really is a simple discussion...... Do you like me to bit and have the energy to pork you all night like you want it. Or should i become a lazy dick drinking beer all night long. To be honest doing f all being lazy is way worse than doing AAS and keeping yourself healthy and fit. Most guys on AAS take EXTREMELY good care of their bodies well the older guys i know for sure some of these young kids are complete idiots.

I had to tell my wife because she started noticing big changes in my body but she was HAPPY with the results and really enjoyed how i looked. Now she grabs my arms telling me how big I am and loves walking around with me everywhere i go.

 

[jackedtothemax]

At first this looks like a tough one but the more I think about it it's not. From here on out just be completely honest with her. Sit her down and have a talk and tell her exactly why you took them. Also, explain to her why you hid them from her. Maybe you were scared or thought she would judge you. Maybe you hid them because you knew if you told her she would say, "no, absolutely not, I don't approve!" Which it sounds like is what she would have said if she equates gear to Meth and Coke. You could attempt to change her opinion on gear but at this point I don't think you're going to get very far with that. I doubt she's in the mood to listen to you trying to talk her "off the ledge" because to her (if she's like most women) it's the lying and deception that's going to bother her most. Your problem in the long run isn't going to be about the gear, it's going to be that you hid something from her.

It's time to rebuild the trust, how you do that only you and her can figure that out because it's your relationship.

Just be honest, if she knows you well enough, which it seems she does (she sensed you were up to something) then that will be the first step in making this right.

Good Luck Bro!

Well said, Bro. Thx.

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see that is the thing right there.. I only date chicks who are healthy and lead an active lifestyle like me. I would never date someone who ate mcdonalds and who was out of shape. all my gf's I've dated have been fine with my use and I always show off at the gym when I outlift other guys.. so they like that shit.

so what is happening here is she just doesn't understand the 'gym life' ... this exposes a bigger issue for you.. do you want to be with someone who doesn't support or engage in the 'lifestyle'? a chick who would rather eat at mcdonalds then whole foods? matching lifestyles with a person is very important.

You are right Bro, she doesn't understand. I explained that my option is to get fat, drink too much, and watch too much TV. She said that that is my problem right there... that I see only the alternative extreme and that I cannot find a middle ground between working out and doing nothing.

She is a beautiful woman, but she has put on 50 lbs since we were married and she is working out at crossfit 3-5 times per week and still putting on weight. I try to help her (I'm 10% body fat and my workouts are a fraction of where they used to be), but she thinks that I know nothing about her weight problem and that I cannot possibly help her. I even explained to her that her cortisol to testosterone/estrogen balance seems like it is imbalanced and she started shouting at me about that.

 

[bodean30]

Try hitting her.


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So fucking funny right there!

I'm willing to bet that the main thing she's pissed off about is the lying. Women HATE it when we hide shit from them. They see it as the ultimate betrayal. Probably doesn't matter if you were screwing someone else, shooting heroin, or just doing what you are doing.

The best course of action is probably to apologize profusely about hiding it from her and explain that you hid it from her because you knew she wouldn't understand, which she clearly doesn't. Try to explain how safe it actually is, but don't b**** it off like it doesn't have risks.

If all that doesn't work, resort to Punk's solution and just hit her. Lol, jk!

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[bodean30]

Why the hell can I say "fuck", yet words like "b-r-u-s-h" get censored?

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[-SD-]

Well said, Bro. Thx.

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You are right Bro, she doesn't understand. I explained that my option is to get fat, drink too much, and watch too much TV. She said that that is my problem right there... that I see only the alternative extreme and that I cannot find a middle ground between working out and doing nothing.

She is a beautiful woman, but she has put on 50 lbs since we were married and she is working out at crossfit 3-5 times per week and still putting on weight. I try to help her (I'm 10% body fat and my workouts are a fraction of where they used to be), but she thinks that I know nothing about her weight problem and that I cannot possibly help her. I even explained to her that her cortisol to testosterone/estrogen balance seems like it is imbalanced and she started shouting at me about that.

Why are the only options to either take steroids and be a beast, or sit on your ass and drink beer and be a fatass? Thats very simple binary thinking and a false choice. You would never tell your woman her only options are to look like a supermodel or look like jabba the hut now would you

 

[bodean30]

One other thing I'd like to point out after reading all of your responses is that I'm getting the feeling that she has some deep seeded insecurity issues. I think that in her head she thinks that you are going to get into really good shape and will no longer want anything to do with her. So she wants to keep you down on her level so that doesn't happen.

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[Punk434]

The fact is, the guy wants to take gear and his wife doesn't want him to because shes uneducated on the subject, has been lied to and is being unreasonable(as most women can be) .. I can tell you one thing is for certain, one day you are going to die, so you might as well do what makes you happy and that's something you need to find out for yourself. If my girl tried to put her foot down about me using gear, I'd tell her to pack her shit and go if we couldn't compromise. Now if you value your wife more than being on gear and you'll be happier that way, then you have your answer there. Although having someone dictate what you can and cannot do and having to sneak around sounds like no way to live.


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[stevesmi]

One other thing I'd like to point out after reading all of your responses is that I'm getting the feeling that she has some deep seeded insecurity issues. I think that in her head she thinks that you are going to get into really good shape and will no longer want anything to do with her. So she wants to keep you down on her level so that doesn't happen.

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which is why both people should already be secure with each others lifestyles beforehand

 

[jackedtothemax]

Why are the only options to either take steroids and be a beast, or sit on your ass and drink beer and be a fatass? Thats very simple binary thinking and a false choice. You would never tell your woman her only options are to look like a supermodel or look like jabba the hut now would you

I agree that my black and white choice is not a good starting point. It's really just weakness in my character that makes me want to force myself to choose between those two options b/c I am afraid of what will happen to me if I stop working out. I don't want to get fat and I don't enjoy watching TV. Drinking is fun, but it is a complete waste of time.

I have not stopped working out for 19 years. I even worked out my upper body when I broke my ankle. I did cardio when I had a hernia repair. I rode a bike when I injured my shoulder. Despite those injuries, I've never had an injury go on this long that made me consider quitting. I do not want to be the same as other people. I realize that being fat and watching TV are part of American culture, but I do not want that.

I feel like we all take calculated risks. I'm going to drive across town soon. Getting smashed by a drunk driver is much more likely than hurting my body from taking baby sips of JUICE.

 

[Ahmad90]

Why the hell can I say "fuck", yet words like "b-r-u-s-h" get censored?

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I want to know too. Anything with ghe word r-u-s-h gets blurred.


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[Bad Juju]

see that is the thing right there.. I only date chicks who are healthy and lead an active lifestyle like me. I would never date someone who ate mcdonalds and who was out of shape. all my gf's I've dated have been fine with my use and I always show off at the gym when I outlift other guys.. so they like that shit.

so what is happening here is she just doesn't understand the 'gym life' ... this exposes a bigger issue for you.. do you want to be with someone who doesn't support or engage in the 'lifestyle'? a chick who would rather eat at mcdonalds then whole foods? matching lifestyles with a person is very important.

Agreed with dating only fit chicks. I met my wife in the gym. I picked her up after watching her leg press 12plates a side lol

try to educate her on what anabolics are all about. show her this forum. encourage her to ask questions.

as people stated above tho always be upfront. its more the sneaking behind their backs that makes the situation escalate quickly

 

[ac1]

well that's another way to test if steroids are legit .the seamen test lol

 

[Ahmad90]

And have your wife watch a vid of a real doctor talking about AAS. The only reason it was banned was because of cheating in sports not because of health problems. Just dont lie to her about AAS ever again. She obviously has never been educated on it so just show her what AAS is. Almost all of AAS was created to help weak old people or sick people. If an old man or a sick person can take it then why cant a healthy young guy who also takes tons of health supplements along with it do it. Some of these AAS were even used in treatment women and little 100lbs kids. Shes just been brainwashed by the stupid media and im sure she will get over it once you teach her.


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[Punk434]

I heard if you take N2Guard your wife will accept you taking AAS.


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[Ahmad90]

Agreed with dating only fit chicks. I met my wife in the gym. I picked her up after watching her leg press 12plates a side lol

try to educate her on what anabolics are all about. show her this forum. encourage her to ask questions.

as people stated above tho always be upfront. its more the sneaking behind their backs that makes the situation escalate quickly

Wtf. Half reps or real reps???


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[-SD-]

I agree that my black and white choice is not a good starting point. It's really just weakness in my character that makes me want to force myself to choose between those two options b/c I am afraid of what will happen to me if I stop working out. I don't want to get fat and I don't enjoy watching TV. Drinking is fun, but it is a complete waste of time.

I have not stopped working out for 19 years. I even worked out my upper body when I broke my ankle. I did cardio when I had a hernia repair. I rode a bike when I injured my shoulder. Despite those injuries, I've never had an injury go on this long that made me consider quitting. I do not want to be the same as other people. I realize that being fat and watching TV are part of American culture, but I do not want that.

I feel like we all take calculated risks. I'm going to drive across town soon. Getting smashed by a drunk driver is much more likely than hurting my body from taking baby sips of JUICE.

Ive worked out off and on for 25 years due to many different factors. Muscle memory is real and its not the end of the world if you have to stop working out because of injury or anything else. This is a marathon not a sprint. Roids are great but they arent the be all end all lifestyle factor here. I had about dozen years between cycles once and i never felt this great void or anything. You might not be a beast but if you are happy in your own skin without roids you can accomplish plenty and probably be a lot healthier long term. If you think you cant live without it or put the gear above your wife then we are getting into addiction territory.

 

[2knives]

I didnt read all the way through the thread.
But as a grown man, I never ask permission for anything.
My wife and I have always known this.
We talk about things but ultimately, my choices are mine to make just as her choices for her are hers to make.
Now everything in moderation and within reason of course, but for my home as long as I am safe and do not bring shame to the family name, i do what I do.

 

[Bad Juju]

Wtf. Half reps or real reps???


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haha. real reps man. my chick is a beast. you wouldn't be able to tell cause she looks like a runway model. when she was 7 months pregnant she was still squatting 245 for reps lol. she loves den legs!

and yeah. always get busted by the seamen test. wife always can tell when I'm running cycle

 

[FL1025]

It sounds like she is more mad at the fact that you hid something From her, I mean would she be ok if you had to get on trt or would she say no and let you be miserable

 

[Ahmad90]

haha. real reps man. my chick is a beast. you wouldn't be able to tell cause she looks like a runway model. when she was 7 months pregnant she was still squatting 245 for reps lol. she loves den legs!

and yeah. always get busted by the seamen test. wife always can tell when I'm running cycle

Damn. I dont even bother getting near 12 plates altogether when i leg press lol. She sounds strong as hell.


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[riprock713]

Should have just told her man. there isnt much for her to do about it but if you told her before she may have gotten mad but at least you would be able to finish your cycle. But even now I would just tell her that you are going to finish it regardless.

 

[whiteboystomp]

Literally - lol'ed

Me too...right!?! Funny shit...

 

[getbig1989]

Dude if your wife thinks being on steroids is the same as using meth or cocaine, you might need to leave her, because that's the dumbest shit I've ever heard. Definitely hit her.


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Lol dude lmfao.that's why you only date girls that are in to fitness they understand.all joking aside you should seriously have a big discussion with her that's bullshit don't stop your cycle.


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[Dudley Dawson]

Had this happen to me a few months ago. I had hid my AAS usage for over a year. And my wife wasn't happy when she found out about it. We had a big blow out. She was more upset about the lying and hiding than the AAS. We had a long talk about it and as long as I keep her in the loop she doesn't mind. She would rather I not use gear, but she also doesn't mind getting plowed multiple times a night either. Like I read in a previous post, I'm a grown as man. And I'm going to do what ever the hell I want. Finish off your cycle, bro. Just be up front about everything. We are even closer now than we have ever been.

 

[Bad Juju]

and just keep her informed. men always do shit that the wives don't like. but its not like were cheating on them. we are bettering ourselves so they can have some arm candy to hang off of

 

[LevButlerov]

Try hitting her.

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Tren user detected lol.

this shit needs to be discussed beforehand and a mutual agreement has to be done..

if you are spending the mortgage check on AAS then she is 100% right.. but if you have disposable income and you want to spend it on AAS just like she might spend it on a dress then she needs to compromise.

I agree with her you shouldn't have snuck around, if a chick was using hormones behind your back you probably would be upset too. I don't see this turning out well. however what is her problem with sarms? they are legal. if she isn't going to let you even use them then you seriously need to educate her on PED's or else if this lifestyle is important to you then you need to try and work this out.

This is really reasonable. These things need to be discussed, and explained. Who knows, maybe if you explained her beforehand, and shown all of the benefits, she would see the situation differently. However, now she is not so much against AAS, and she is rather against them because you did not tell her. There should be no secrets in a marriage, especially in things affecting both of you.

 

[ill gotten gains]

Once a woman feels like she has been deceived, it's hard to reason with her. Women are emotional and matters of the heart trump rational thinking. You lied and that was what set her off. You're going to have to be a good boy and stop for now. Let it blow over then try to rationalize it when she is on a better state of mind.

 

[muskate]

Hiding stuff from your significant other is never a good idea. The truth always comes out. This is what I would do in your situation:

Sit your wife down and apologize to her about hiding it from her. Explain how much your training means to you and why you wanted to supplement them with AAS. Tell her that in order to be healthy you need to run a proper PCT protocol after your cycle to restore HPTA function.

Stop your cycle and run the perfect PCT protocol: http://www.evolutionary.org/the-perfect-post-cycle-therapy-pct/
The inclusion of the SARMS in the protocol will extend your cycle and help prevent any muscle loss coming off of the steroids you were using. I see this as your best option. You still get to use the SARMS this way.

After the perfect PCT protocol, talk with her again about starting a cycle. Be completely upfront with her on it. I suspect that if you are honest with her and ask for her permission before starting, she will be okay with it.

 

[jackedtothemax]

Had this happen to me a few months ago. I had hid my AAS usage for over a year. And my wife wasn't happy when she found out about it. We had a big blow out. She was more upset about the lying and hiding than the AAS. We had a long talk about it and as long as I keep her in the loop she doesn't mind. She would rather I not use gear, but she also doesn't mind getting plowed multiple times a night either. Like I read in a previous post, I'm a grown as man. And I'm going to do what ever the hell I want. Finish off your cycle, bro. Just be up front about everything. We are even closer now than we have ever been.

Your experience sounds promising. Thank you for sharing.

We talked yesterday for about 3-4 hrs. Mostly her calling me names and expressing anger. I deserve it b/c I hid it from her, but I didn't tell her that I was going to stop. I tried to explain the danger of stopping a cycle abruptly and she was completely confused when I told her about the HPTA.

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Hiding stuff from your significant other is never a good idea. The truth always comes out. This is what I would do in your situation:

Sit your wife down and apologize to her about hiding it from her. Explain how much your training means to you and why you wanted to supplement them with AAS. Tell her that in order to be healthy you need to run a proper PCT protocol after your cycle to restore HPTA function.

Stop your cycle and run the perfect PCT protocol: http://www.evolutionary.org/the-perfect-post-cycle-therapy-pct/
The inclusion of the SARMS in the protocol will extend your cycle and help prevent any muscle loss coming off of the steroids you were using. I see this as your best option. You still get to use the SARMS this way.

After the perfect PCT protocol, talk with her again about starting a cycle. Be completely upfront with her on it. I suspect that if you are honest with her and ask for her permission before starting, she will be okay with it.

^^ This sounds reasonable. Thank you.

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Once a woman feels like she has been deceived, it's hard to reason with her. Women are emotional and matters of the heart trump rational thinking. You lied and that was what set her off. You're going to have to be a good boy and stop for now. Let it blow over then try to rationalize it when she is on a better state of mind.

You are right Bro, I am going to have to spend a great deal of time to regain some trust (doubt that I'll regain all trust within the next 10 yrs).

She sounded less irritated today, but that is what concerns me... what is she cooking up? We talked about separating, but decided against that... at least as of 1am last night that was the decision...

Thank you for your input.

 

[Bad Juju]

she talked about separating because of you using gear?!?!? now thats a little over dramatic on her side. The hiding it i can understand her being pissed but its not like you were cheating on her with another woman. I had a client go through this with his wife. he just told her that he promises to be safe, get doctor check ups, and keep his moods in check. He stated he won't stop using gear as he is old enough to make his own decisions. and again he wasn't cheating on her either so theres is no need to go about talking divorce

 

[underweight]

She is just seeing how far she can push you because you are on the defensive. Bravo for not agreeing to stop because if you do it will be double hard to start another cycle and have her agree with you. You admitted fault on hiding info and you have to take your lumps on that. If you start asking permission you will start having to on everything. Just chill and let her fuss and you better hide your stash for now so she doesnt get irrational and throw it away.

 

[MacMatrix]

Good luck bro. I hope I never end up in your shoes but I could. Im a recovering addict so Im afraid my ole lady would go bat shit crazy if I told her I was on gear. Just keeping it on the low. Helps keep me clean though so I aint stopping.

 

[channah06]

ya bro her even thinking of separating over AAS is redonkulous!! ive been married 5 years and about to start my first cycle, and wife is cool with it. she knows ive done all my research and she understands it is not as big of a deal as society like to make us think. Dr's prescribe it all the time so common sense would dictate that its just a negative stigma we have in regards to recreational use. mind you thats not the best argument because dr's prescribe shit all the time that hurts our bodies, but just for a point of reference. honestly me and my wife watched " bigger, stronger, faster" and it made her look a lot differently at it. its on netflix still i think you should watch it with her. its just pure ignorance in regards to her thinking its like meth and coke, which is not her fault, i dont she had any interest in actually researching about AAS. this should be a very small hurdle you guys should be able to get over in regards to your marriage. if she absolutely insists you to never do it again, then for the sake of the marriage i wouldnt do it, but as a man and husband she should respect your decision to continue in the future if you decide. reassure her that you have done all the research you need, your in contact with a big community here with people that have been doing it for years, and that honestly its really not that big of a deal as long as you do it right.

mind you im speaking from a wife who is very lax about things and gives me the respect as a man to make my own decisions and not be over bearing. she knows that is a big thing for me and i think more men need to step it up and take back control of their marriages. i could talk forever about this but ill stop lol good luck brother

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and another thing lol while yes you did hide this from her, this is not a huge breach in trust, dont let her hang this over your head for years and use it as a scape goat like many women like to do. idk your marriage but maybe she is just using this as an excuse for a bigger issue in hand?

 

[R3M2306]

Don't be a pussy and tell her you are using gear. Then educate her on what steroids are really about.

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[Bad Juju]

education is the key

 

[nvus]

Great thread!!

LET EM HATE... THEY JUST NV US

 

[Bad Juju]

I'm waiting for all the tren users to come on here and talk about not educating but disciplining the wives lol

 

[Monsterpickle]

Man the fuck up and tell her about your lifestyle.
Don't hide shit from her tell her how it is going to be and let her decide to take it of leave it.
I have this theory that most of modern day life is designed to lower your natural test. Many dudes walk around all day suppressing there natural thoughts and this is just bitch training.Then when you are on a cycle you just don't know what the fuck to do because the hormones break through the social conditioning.Eat sleap lift fuck!

 

[jon38]

Gear is not proprely hideable i have a sharps container and too boxes of pins in one droor and a droor full of pharm ancillarys and research chems and support supps on top my blood pressure moniter and little bag with my alcohol prep pads guys i know that hide it end up pinning in there car keeping gear in un steral places reusing needles too be set up for saftey and sterility theres just no way too hide it and if your gear is good and your diet and training is how it should be your going too be making unrealistic gains how do you hide that . My wife knows everthing and its just easier like that .

 

[Bad Juju]

Man the fuck up and tell her about your lifestyle.
Don't hide shit from her tell her how it is going to be and let her decide to take it of leave it.
I have this theory that most of modern day life is designed to lower your natural test. Many dudes walk around all day suppressing there natural thoughts and this is just bitch training.Then when you are on a cycle you just don't know what the fuck to do because the hormones break through the social conditioning.Eat sleap lift fuck!

I like your train of thought. i agree that in our day and age everything is working against keeping us healthy. lower test is definitely a byproduct of all the foods, lotions, soap, eye that we use in our daily life

 

[MikeSnow]

I agree it has to be talked about beforehand.. Just say it's something you like to do, it makes you happy and shit... Anyone who cares should be able to accept that..

 

[stevesmi]

I like your train of thought. i agree that in our day and age everything is working against keeping us healthy. lower test is definitely a byproduct of all the foods, lotions, soap, eye that we use in our daily life

and the fact that we didn't evolve sitting in an office staring at a computer screen all day

its fucked up what we are doing to our bodies I today's world but it is what it is. those of you on here who do blue collar jobs are going to automatically be much healthier then those of us with white collar sit on our ass all day jobs.

I would love to live as an American Indian pre-settler days in north America and live off the land peacefully and do nothing but hunt, fuck, sleep and eat .. that's what we should be doing but today its more like work 12 hours, watch tv, sleep 5 hours, wake up and repeat.. the only 'hunting' for food people do is picking up their iphone and ordering a pizza or Chinese food through the app

 

[Bad Juju]

you should get a book called "the story of B' its a little more spiritual than i usually like but it talks about how we came from hunters and gatherers. way better way of life. It explains how modernization has actually crippled us as a society.

case in point if you know einsteins sayings. he talks about a technological advancement that will actually cause us to regress as a people. i call it the iPhone

 

[brapbrap07]

let her know your dosages are not crazy high and all the side effects rarely happen with Proper nutrition and SERMS...
Let her know the basics of what steroids do with RBC and transportation efficiency etc.
and let her know that the whole "crazy" part of steroids is from taking too much or not properly regulating your estrogen and/or not keeping stable levels...

Also let her know your dick is only going to get harder and thicker and you will be able to have a lot more sex.
let her know how good it makes you feel and how its actually a positive thing for your body.


if she still doesnt get it BE A FUCKING MAN and keep doing it but dont hide it from her. Women test you, be who you say you are and she will respect you and get over it. Now make sure you dont lose your cool either just be a positive smiling person.. she will come around eventually.

 

[Ruger72]

Get bloods, show an issue such as low T, start TRT. This breaks the ice on having vials and syringes in the house. Then up the doses and compounds later, if you ever reduced them... Once the see a TRT regimen approved by a doc, they don't push any more.

 

[boybravo]

My GF is a R.N and always worried about me harming myself, told her the Test was Dr prescribed and I needed it.....

The winny, Dbol & Var tabs were simply to control estrogen....

My size was only because of me changing my diet and training routine..

It worked for me, she eventually shut the F up about it.....

The only thing that was impossible to lie about was Tren, I'd be in the bathroom coughing my lungs out and about to puke.....Waking up in the A.M with the sheets soaked, etc....

 

[rREN]

Come clean and tell her. She might take a bit to come around because you were hiding it. But tell her why you did and tell her why you want to use them.
Before I started my cycle I told my wife straight up. Everything. She was concerned about legalities, side effects, expenses, etc. I educated her on her concerns and she got better. She's not totally cool with the pinning, but she is liking the good results.
Honesty is definitely best. Educating her will help her understand. I'm in my mid thirties though, so I don't have time to hide shit, too much work! But there are always risk!

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[Bad Juju]

Ill be the first funny guy. well the second i guess. Just beat the sense into her lol

 

[mustang_00]

you should have broke down on the spot and looked her in the eye and said "I've been trying to tell you!" make her think she's not communicating. tell her you feel like a 50's house wife. like your dreams don't matter.

 

[Ahmad90]

you should get a book called "the story of B' its a little more spiritual than i usually like but it talks about how we came from hunters and gatherers. way better way of life. It explains how modernization has actually crippled us as a society.

case in point if you know einsteins sayings. he talks about a technological advancement that will actually cause us to regress as a people. i call it the iPhone

One word. Feminism. One of the most disgusting ideologies ever created that broke up the idea of having a good family. Too bad most people think feminism means equality for women lol, when in reality it basically tells women to go against their nature as a mother/wife....Now for most its job/money first, then family and enjoying life...I could never bare the idea of a boring ass desk job, sitting for 8 hours a day, and getting yelled at by some asshole. I could see how this cripples society. Lots of people are almost "enslaved to their jobs." The amount of stress that trying to balance college, religion, work, and bodybuilding caused me was insane. Those 2 years of college gave me horrible depression, anxiety, and lots of stress. I cant imagine how people go for 8-12 years. My parents are still are against me not going back to become an engineer or doctor...I was basically oppressed mentally that if i dont go to college, i will be a failure and not good enough. Idk many people arent allowed to do what they want that may be good for them, but instead are pushed into something that will ruin their life with stress. This is why pro bodybuilding/running my own business is my interest. It lets me live life the way i want. And i have no idea how we went from talking about this guys wife problem to modernization being a threat to society lol.


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[12Rossja]

My long time girlfriend knows I've used Aas in the past, knows about all my sarms etc. She doesn't care, She just figures that whatever I get myself into, I can get myself out of. Then one day when im like 45 years old and BLAM TRT.

 

[vladithor24]

Women are suppose to be submissive to their husbands and support them even if they think he is wrong not try to control him or take his place as head of the relationship so do what you want and she needs to deal with it.


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[bodean30]

you should have broke down on the spot and looked her in the eye and said "I've been trying to tell you!" make her think she's not communicating. tell her you feel like a 50's house wife. like your dreams don't matter.

You're a genius! Lol

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[leostern]

Try hitting her.


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This made me laugh! Blame the roid rage too...............

 

[stevesmi]

my lord what am I reading on this last page? sheesh that's some of the most insecure and beta shit I have ever read

look guys.. I didn't get laid much either in high school but fuck I didn't spend the rest of my life hating women for it

I guarantee with that attitude you won't get any pussy ever .. at the very least keep your thoughts to yourselves cause if you say that sort of thing you are writing to a chick on a first date you aren't getting a 2nd one I can assure you!

a SECURE and confident man doesn't have to go around with his chest puffed out claiming how superior he is. don't believe me? then just ask aggirl or some of our other female members how much of a turn off that nonsense is

 

[Ahmad90]

Women are suppose to be submissive to their husbands and support them even if they think he is wrong not try to control him or take his place as head of the relationship so do what you want and she needs to deal with it.


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LOL. Chill. His wife clearly doesnt have any idea what AAS is. Average person probably thinks steroids will kill you in a month. She obviously just cares about his health. He just needs to show her the truth thats it. And doing whatever he wants is a bad idea lol. No man should abuse his power to the point that they do whatever they want and make their wives suffer.


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[vladithor24]

Women out number men in America so there will be another one waiting if you can't do what you want


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[stevesmi]

Women out number men in America so there will be another one waiting if you can't do what you want


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SINGLE women do not out number men until over 40... then the tables turn

but by then chicks are either divorced, have kids, etc.

 

[Ahmad90]

Women out number men in America so there will be another one waiting if you can't do what you want


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Dude. Are you seriously advising this guy to leave her? Youd make a shitty marriage counselor.


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[stevesmi]

http://jonathansoma.com/singles/

check that out guys.. it gives you the ratio's per age group

 

[Ahmad90]

Thats because many guys just sleep around and call themselves single when they are young. I dont get what this chart proves besides the fact that a bunch of old guys are either dying or divorcing their wives because they either dont get along anymore or they are dating younger chicks. Sucks. This society is messed up in so many ways.


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[vladithor24]

Thats because many guys just sleep around and call themselves single when they are young. I dont get what this chart proves besides the fact that a bunch of old guys are either dying or divorcing their wives because they either dont get along anymore or they are dating younger chicks. Sucks. This society is messed up in so many ways.


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As messed up as it may seem this era is the best of all of history people have it made today


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[boybravo]

LOL. Chill. His wife clearly doesnt have any idea what AAS is. Average person probably thinks steroids will kill you in a month. She obviously just cares about his health. He just needs to show her the truth thats it. And doing whatever he wants is a bad idea lol. No man should abuse his power to the point that they do whatever they want and make their wives suffer.


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Man I've tried having this, steroids are safe talk with my GF, doesn't realy work......Her brother had a heart attack and a died at 33.....He didn't drink,smoke or do drugs, but his room was full of gear when they found him.......And her Gfs 18 year old brother was juicing already, he fell asleep and his sister could hear him making strange noises in his sleep.....Next morning found him dead in bed......DAMN.....So I just go with the "this is Dr prescibed shit" line......and She's a nurse, so she's seen it all, it's hard to get her on my side of spectrum

 

[Williammunny]

I wouldn't know where to begin focussing it openly. I can't imagine it going well. Good luck.

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discussing^ it openly

 

[Ahmad90]

Man I've tried having this, steroids are safe talk with my GF, doesn't realy work......Her brother had a heart attack and a died at 33.....He didn't drink,smoke or do drugs, but his room was full of gear when they found him.......And her Gfs 18 year old brother was juicing already, he fell asleep and his sister could hear him making strange noises in his sleep.....Next morning found him dead in bed......DAMN.....So I just go with the "this is Dr prescibed shit" line......and She's a nurse, so she's seen it all, it's hard to get her on my side of spectrum

Holy crap that would be a bad situation to be in if you told her you were on AAS.


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[Beastly]

Ironically, she is having some weight control issues and I was hoping to find a way to help her shape up (I bought her some Ephedra and Anavar), in addition to reaching my goals, but it is clear now that she does not approve of AAS.

That right there is why she is pissed...she is insecure because she knows you taking AAS is going to get you jacked and bring attention from other women, many of whom will be in better shape than her. She is worried you are going to cheat on her with a hotter, in shape woman. That's where my money is.

 

[Ahmad90]

As messed up as it may seem this era is the best of all of history people have it made today


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Best? This is the worst morals wise lol.


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[Beastly]

Best? This is the worst morals wise lol.


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Morals are subjective based on your conditioning and upbringing. What one society considers "moral" another one might not. What is considered "moral" in one era is considered immoral in another.

Perhaps the bigger problem is the emasculating of men and having feminist BS shoved down everyone's throats and having their agenda pushed along by these beta bitch ass dudes who want to act like White Knights.

 

[Typhon]

Be straight forward with her now. No more lies, nothing to hide now. Honesty will be your best friend. Whatever you decide to do good luck. Personally I would explain to her that you have to finish this cycle. No other option and you can't just quit.

 

[Ahmad90]

Lol you forgot to tell us how it went jacked. You got about 40 of the same answers which is just like every other post in this forum lol.


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[macdaddy]

One other thing I'd like to point out after reading all of your responses is that I'm getting the feeling that she has some deep seeded insecurity issues. I think that in her head she thinks that you are going to get into really good shape and will no longer want anything to do with her. So she wants to keep you down on her level so that doesn't happen.

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Well said brotha

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[jackedtothemax]

Lol you forgot to tell us how it went jacked. You got about 40 of the same answers which is just like every other post in this forum lol.


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Bro, I'm pretty sure that she has been reading this thread, but to put it briefly she is still pissed. We are trying to work things out so that we don't have to get a divorce.

One notable thing is that she feels like my past use is the source of my anger and frustration (I've always just thought that I was pissed at the stupid things that I see in my day-to-day life) that causes us to fight and to not like being around each other. I explained that its the estrogen rebound and that this time I'm prepared to counteract the estrogen with Aromasin and PCT.

 

[gearhead]

Bro, I'm pretty sure that she has been reading this thread, but to put it briefly she is still pissed. We are trying to work things out so that we don't have to get a divorce.

One notable thing is that she feels like my past use is the source of my anger and frustration (I've always just thought that I was pissed at the stupid things that I see in my day-to-day life) that causes us to fight and to not like being around each other. I explained that its the estrogen rebound and that this time I'm prepared to counteract the estrogen with Aromasin and PCT.

if your girl reading this...sister, let our evo brother live his life the way he wants...this way he'll be more fit and happy with his life, which means your relationship will be better...if you force him to stop, he'll only resent you for it and try to hide it from you....our lifestyle is our life

 

[Ahmad90]

Bro, I'm pretty sure that she has been reading this thread, but to put it briefly she is still pissed. We are trying to work things out so that we don't have to get a divorce.

One notable thing is that she feels like my past use is the source of my anger and frustration (I've always just thought that I was pissed at the stupid things that I see in my day-to-day life) that causes us to fight and to not like being around each other. I explained that its the estrogen rebound and that this time I'm prepared to counteract the estrogen with Aromasin and PCT.

Lol shes on these forums? And what about her being on her period one week every month?? Thats hell for us guys lol. Thats every month!!! Your estrogen rebound is once during the PCT phase or post PCT and can be controlled. You can correct yourself by being more patient. Easiest way is to just be more patient, just done let anything get to you thats the key. Once you let it get to you its over, and all the built up anger will release, try releasing more anger in your workouts. Also, DIVORCE ISNT AN OPTION. Not at all, dont even mention the word, pretend it doesnt even exist. You should use "taking a break from each other" as a last resort, basically just dont talk for a while but still be together, or have her live with her parents for a bit or something. No splitting up, just ignore her anytime its an argument or if you know your rage is building. Ignoring is the best thing you can do in an argument. And there are times when its okay to be angry and its sometimes a good thing to get mad at BS. My wife accused me of roid rage the other day, but the reality is that id still be pissed at what happened if i wasnt on roids...


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[Ahmad90]

Bro, I'm pretty sure that she has been reading this thread, but to put it briefly she is still pissed. We are trying to work things out so that we don't have to get a divorce.

One notable thing is that she feels like my past use is the source of my anger and frustration (I've always just thought that I was pissed at the stupid things that I see in my day-to-day life) that causes us to fight and to not like being around each other. I explained that its the estrogen rebound and that this time I'm prepared to counteract the estrogen with Aromasin and PCT.

Lol shes on these forums? And what about her being on her period one week every month?? Thats hell for us guys lol. Thats every month!!! Your estrogen rebound is once during the PCT phase or post PCT and can be controlled. You can correct yourself by being more patient. Easiest way is to just be more patient, just done let anything get to you thats the key. Once you let it get to you its over, and all the built up anger will release, try releasing more anger in your workouts. Also, DIVORCE ISNT AN OPTION. Not at all, dont even mention the word, pretend it doesnt even exist. You should use "taking a break from each other" as a last resort, basically just dont talk for a while but still be together, or have her live with her parents for a bit or something. No splitting up, just ignore her anytime its an argument or if you know your rage is building. Ignoring is the best thing you can do in an argument. And there are times when its okay to be angry and its sometimes a good thing to get mad at BS. My wife accused me of roid rage the other day, but the reality is that id still be pissed at what happened if i wasnt on roids...


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[underweight]

Jacked it still sounds like your making exuses and reasoning with her out of fear. You need to be having a discussion like you are talking to a friend. She will try to steer the mood away from that. Its not roid rage. You just put up with less bs. Im more straightfoward. Hanging divorce over your head is far worse than bumping what you already produce naturally. If she takes birth control bet she didnt think twice bout taking them hormones and didnt do any reasearch but blindly took the advice of a person cause they had md at the end of their name.

 

[stevesmi]

Best? This is the worst morals wise lol.


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hmmmm... so the time when the Romans captured cities and made children slaves, when Vikings raped and pillaged, when so called advanced nations had it legal to own slaves, the time where people overran Europe and put people they hated in concentration camps and gassed them to death, or the time when they would burn redheads at the stake alive is better than today? you are way too cynical for a 20 year old.

yes humans are a flawed species but the morals of today believe it or not are getting better.

and I do not see how steroid use is morally wrong unless you play a sport where the majority of others are not on anything. then that would be using an unfair advantage/cheating

now 'lying' to your spouse I find morally wrong, but I bet the majority of people on their moral high horse have done it plenty of times

 

[stevesmi]

Bro, I'm pretty sure that she has been reading this thread, but to put it briefly she is still pissed. We are trying to work things out so that we don't have to get a divorce.

One notable thing is that she feels like my past use is the source of my anger and frustration (I've always just thought that I was pissed at the stupid things that I see in my day-to-day life) that causes us to fight and to not like being around each other. I explained that its the estrogen rebound and that this time I'm prepared to counteract the estrogen with Aromasin and PCT.

well if she is reading this I can say to her that she shouldn't listen to any of us knuckleheads on this subject to try to convince her of anything.. the only person she should listen to is YOU to be convinced. and you start by proving to her you are educated on the subject of AAS use and are using it safely and conservatively to reach your personal fitness goals. this means you are properly cycling, donating blood, getting blood work, testing your lipids frequently, eating right, training right, and all that good stuff

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That right there is why she is pissed...she is insecure because she knows you taking AAS is going to get you jacked and bring attention from other women, many of whom will be in better shape than her. She is worried you are going to cheat on her with a hotter, in shape woman. That's where my money is.

I don't think she is ignorant enough to believe that steroids magically make a person jacked

 

[aaronjwh250]

Bro, just find out which one of those compounds made your cum taste weird and cut that one out. Then you can keep cycling and lying to her. I'd say it's probably the proviron, or maybe even the GW (just guessing).

Nah in all seriousness bro there is NOTHING you can do or say now (if you continue to cycle with her watching) except suck that shit up, love her and you cannot get pissed or angry at ANYTHING, she will immediately blame it on the gear. If you change your attitude, stop all fighting completely (I know impossible), and make her feel brand new all over again.

If you can do all that with you still on gear then she wont bother, she won't be able yo blame anything on the gear if nothing goes wrong.

I told my wife about gear 6 months ago, she was upset and she tried to blame my anger and our fights on it. I humbled myself real low to her, watched my stress and anger real closely and treated her just like when we were first started dating. She tried to find things to blame on gear but she literally could not. I even got bloodwork a few weeks later to prove I was healthy to her, showed her the bw and all. After that it was never even a topic of discussion. She even helps me pin every blue moon.

Just last week she caught me cheating too, I did the exact same thing. I cheated for a lot of reasons and I think AAS played a small roll too. But even after that she was devastated, I did the same thing I did when I told her about the AAS.

10 days later and our relationship is stronger than ever. Humble yourself, show your love every minute of the day you can, and most of all, do not get angry. Depending on what type of woman you got, crying might help too. Unless your already really sensitive and she knows it.

 

[bodean30]

Bro, just find out which one of those compounds made your cum taste weird and cut that one out. Then you can keep cycling and lying to her. I'd say it's probably the proviron, or maybe even the GW (just guessing).

I don't even want to know how you would figure that out. Lol

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[aaronjwh250]

Maybe he has a dog?

 

[Ahmad90]

hmmmm... so the time when the Romans captured cities and made children slaves, when Vikings raped and pillaged, when so called advanced nations had it legal to own slaves, the time where people overran Europe and put people they hated in concentration camps and gassed them to death, or the time when they would burn redheads at the stake alive is better than today? you are way too cynical for a 20 year old.

yes humans are a flawed species but the morals of today believe it or not are getting better.

and I do not see how steroid use is morally wrong unless you play a sport where the majority of others are not on anything. then that would be using an unfair advantage/cheating

now 'lying' to your spouse I find morally wrong, but I bet the majority of people on their moral high horse have done it plenty of times

Huh? They still kill rape and pillage cities. 1,000,000 died in Iraq. And now people look back and say oops looks like saddam didnt have nuclear weapons...There are still people who think there was nothing wrong with the war in Iraq. Back then certain civilizations were still pretty screwed up, people were getting murdered brutally just because of their race, i personally hate the torturing methods theyd use on innocent people back in the day. Rome was a veryyyyyy long time ago, a time when many people were dumbasses. What i meant is in the recent 50-90 years there has been a severe shift in morals and you cant disagree with that. The amount the world has changed in the past century is much more than it has in the 300 years before. This is probably because of technology idk. The feminist ideology was almost non existent a few hundred years ago and life was balanced, now the family life is being torn apart. And advanced nations do have slaves...The millions of chinese kids in China working for 5 cents an hour isnt slavery? Go google how the city of Dubai was made. Slavery exists still, whether its mental or physical. And too cyanical for a 20 year old? How?


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[MacMatrix]

Ok followed this thread and decided to tell my old lady I was on gear. She did not take to it the way I hoped. She swears up and down that I am on "drugs" and just trippin on me. My advice is dont tell your old lady shit if she is like mine. Let here live in here dream world. My wife wont do proper research. Wont even listen to me. Causing alot of issues between us now. Self inflicted. Damn

 

[stretch512]

If this is a deal breaker than what other things would be a deal breaker. I mean when you say your down with someone for life - is there a qualifier that comes next with a list of exceptions. If I say "I DO" that means down for life. We will work through any shit whether it be drugs, finances, drinking, bad habits, cheating I mean you name it. Your suppose to stand by your people. I hope the Jackedtothemax lady is reading this thread. We have guys on here that are ready to give good healthy advice at any moments notice - and the fact that Jacked came in here asking how to do things right shows he cares about his health and isn't just abusing things to take a shortcut. Health and fitness is a huge part of these peoples lives here. We can all admit that we are obsessed with health and fitness. I can think of so many other things I wouldn't want a spouse to be obsessed with like: cheating, over eating, abusing prescription drugs, slothfulness, wastefulness, hoarding. I mean really the guys sounds like a stand up dood and when everything went down he even came back to the boards to reason about it and express himself. Sounds like things just need to get worked out - "IF" - you are both still in love. Love is the key - if you are not in love then the issue runs much much deeper. Love conquers all and they say time heals.

 

[thechemicals]

Oops

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[Ahmad90]

I don't even want to know how you would figure that out. Lol

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Hahahahaha


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[stevesmi]

And too cyanical for a 20 year old? How?


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I think because guys on here who are married or who have experience with women don't want a lecture on what a 20 year old thinks, especially on morals.

you have had hair on your balls for like 2 or 3 years now and you want to teach us about that sort of thing? that's all it is..

when I was your age I didn't pretend to know shit about women, but you really believe you know a lot. personally I think your posts are funny, but other guys get upset at your persistence