Question

[mahammed12]

I wanted to do a short cycle after months of searching finally found some product. I donno how much this stuff is suppose to cost really but it was pretty expensive. Since i was going for a short cycle I wanted to do a test prop only cycle but the guy gave me 2 test props and 1 stanabol 50 , I was wondering if this was enough, Was gonna use 1 test for bulk then test and stanabol for shred. Thats what the guy said anyways.

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Also have clomid for pct, Sorry if this seems lazy. Made another thread about a month or 2 ago and had a bunch of people really help.

 

[Tadeas]

What's your test prop dose per ml? and stanabol is 10mgs winstrol/tab?

 

[mahammed12]

They are both 10ml if that helps should i open. Would it be on the label on the vial?

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Says 10ml multidose vial,

 

[PTPT]

You have enough prop for about 5 weeks if you shoot 1 ml eod. As for the winny, don't waste your time. You don't have even close to enough

 

[mahammed12]

So use the two test props ? 1 ml every other day for 5 weeks? then pct? How much more winny will i need?

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If i go for 5 weeks i'll need more pct stuff ay? I was just gonna go use one test for 2 weeks then test and winny after pct was done then another pct?

 

[poonplatoon]

I think you need a lot more planning. There is no point in doing pct and then another bottle of test right after. I've never used short esters maybe someone who has can chime in and give you some direction.

 

[stevesmi]

you haven't even listed your ancillaries, supps, and pct. please plan this out better.

 

[mahammed12]

Narh i haven't tbh. I have Clomid as my pct, Was gonna about 2 weeks if i did it every other day or mon wed friday and go for a week longer. Then the guy said to use the test p and stan 1 mil each every other day. Diet and work out is going good. Just wanted to try this and see how it went?

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Just wanted to try a short cycle i know it doesn't look well planned out. But didn't seem like it was a big thing since i wasn't gonna use for long.

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So right now I have 2 10 ml test props and 1 stanabol 10 ml and clomid

 

[mahammed12]

Im about 5 10 , 91 kilos and i don't know what my bf is but i ain't fat.

 

[stevesmi]

^^^ back in the day guys would have no clue how to run cycles cause info was no where to be found. you had to rely on word of mouth.. now with forums like this and the incredible amount of info there is NO EXCUSE for not having everything planned.

just clomid isn't enough ancillaries. you need aromasin, support supps, a complete pct, and you need the right amount of gear before starting. read the stickies and read the articles on these compounds before running.

you need to do your homework here, this shit is no joke. been plenty of guys fuck up their HPTA for life or get gyno cause they didn't know what they were doing or listened to their friend. they learned the hard way

 

[aggirl]

You are asking for problems with your cycle and pct. You have to do more research. There are many knowledgeable people on this forum...but they are not going to spoon feed you.

You must educate yourself. ..afterall it is your body.

 

[jp4355]

I have to agree with Stevesmi.
This Cycle has No Structure that you've shared in this Post.
Doesn't sound like you did enough Research into this.
Never Ever listen to any Seller as to what should be done for a Cycle or PCT.
I've read too many Sites where the Sellers don't have a Clue.

Not to put Too Fine a Point on this.
But this is Your Body you're talking about, you just don't go Messing around with your Hormone Levels Haphazardly............................... JP
P.S.
And Nowhere have I even seen you mention an AI for Estrogen Management.
Cause if this Guy told you the Winstrol will do it.
He's 100% Incorrect.

 

[mahammed12]

Aiight so what should i fix up and i'll look into it?

 

[mahammed12]

I just didn't think i would need much for a short cycle or so he said thats why i came here. Appreciate the help just need to be pointed in the right direction and i'll be off and researching whatever you's think i need or are the weak points.

 

[LevButlerov]

There is no such thing as a short cycle being simple. You still need all the ancillaries and supporing agents, as well as PCT. Here's what you got to do in the following order:

1. Find out what is the concentration of your test. On the vials it should say how many mgs per ml there are.

2. Get yourself some Aromasin, which you should be using 10 mgs every other day.

3. Read about the perfect PCT and get what you can for it - http://www.evolutionary.org/the-perfect-post-cycle-therapy-pct/ Remember, PCT is just as important as the cycle itself, since it will allow you to keep the gains and recover faster.

 

[jp4355]

Aiight so what should i fix up and i'll look into it?

You could start by giving me your Current Stats.
Age/Weight/Height/BF% or best approx./Years Training and Type of Training.

Then just out of Curiosity, what Brand is this Test and Winny.
You already posted that the Prop is a 10 Ml Vial, but there should also be the Concentration in Mg/Ml, maybe 100 Mg/Ml is most common.
Do you see that on the Vial, if not, contact your Supplier and ask............................. JP

 

[mahammed12]

Thanks will do all those and i'll be back.

 

[muskate]

Mahammed12, using testosterone propionate for your first cycle isn't the best idea because it requires every other day injections. I would get either testosterone cypionate or testosterone enanthate. With either of those, you will only need to inject twice per week. Most Test E and Test C is 250mg/mL so you would dose 1mL twice per week.

A simple testosterone cycle of 10-12 weeks at 400-500mg/week is your best option for a first cycle. Being new to steroids, your body will hyper respond and you don't need a very aggressive cycle.

This sport is all about progression. It's a marathon. You want to start slowly and work your way up. For a second cycle you can do testosterone + an oral as a kick start. For a third cycle you can do testosterone + an anabolic + an oral as a kick start, etc. If you start with a very aggressive cycle right off the bat, where will you go from there when you plateau? By starting slow you leave 'all your aces in the hole' and will be able to make progressive gains for a long time.

Here's what I recommend:

Weeks 1 - 10
testosterone 500mg/week
aromasin 12.5mg every other day

After your cycle run the perfect PCT protocol: http://www.evolutionary.org/the-perfect-post-cycle-therapy-pct/

You can order everything you need for the cycle and the PCT protocol from ag-guys.com, n2bm.com and sarms1.com.

 

[MikeSnow]

You have enough prop for about 5 weeks if you shoot 1 ml eod. As for the winny, don't waste your time. You don't have even close to enough

This, and have a proper and full PCT in hand before your cycle starts