GW , T3 , you.

[22years]

Hy. I use T3 and i lost 5 puonds in a week at 25x3 50x3. I saw those days GW by Gemelli ,and i just wondering if this is not an other online scam,with all my respect for his hard word. My questions : Wich one is better for loosing pure bodyfat and in the same time safer & what experience do you have with any of those too?




Add pics if you do. Haven t see anything,anywhere with 501516 ,only.



103kg,22 years,180cm,10 years of lifting stuff EOD,male,white&proud.

 

[muskate]

Cardarine GW is much safer then T3 and you don't run the risk of loosing muscle mass when using it. The problem with T3 is that it simply increases metabolism. It does not differentiate between fat or muscle. The weight you loose will be a combination of muscle and fat.

Cardarine GW on the other hand is not a hormone or a stimulant and will not cause any muscle loss. Any weight lost from cardarine supplementation will be purely fat loss. It is a better option all around.

Sarms1.com carries a good product. 20mg/day is a good dosage.

 

[22years]

Cardarine GW is much safer then T3 and you don't run the risk of loosing muscle mass when using it. The problem with T3 is that it simply increases metabolism. It does not differentiate between fat or muscle. The weight you loose will be a combination of muscle and fat.

Cardarine GW on the other hand is not a hormone or a stimulant and will not cause any muscle loss. Any weight lost from cardarine supplementation will be purely fat loss. It is a better option all around.

Sarms1.com carries a good product. 20mg/day is a good dosage.

Well,could you explain me the risks engaged to the T3 using & what if someone would stack that powerfull hormone with Clenbuterol? Some say that may gives you pumps and muscle waiste is down to nill. Is that true?


But , what if you stack those two together?( t3&GW)

 

[delhibelly]

Well,could you explain me the risks engaged to the T3 using & what if someone would stack that powerfull hormone with Clenbuterol? Some say that may gives you pumps and muscle waiste is down to nill. Is that true?


But , what if you stack those two together?( t3&GW)

I've used clenbuterol. It works using your thyroid hormone. The risk is very blunt, if it permanently affects the thyroid, you'll either be very thin or very fat all your life OR on permanent medication!

Use a caffeine based supplement to cut off your fat. They are much safer to use.


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[Masonic Bodybuilder]

Cardarine is better for pure fat loss. The other stuff like T3 and Clen will burn muscle as well. Cardarine will only help you to burn fat while preserving muscle.

 

[Jay Scott]

Well,could you explain me the risks engaged to the T3 using & what if someone would stack that powerfull hormone with Clenbuterol? Some say that may gives you pumps and muscle waiste is down to nill. Is that true?


But , what if you stack those two together?( t3&GW)

T3 is risky due to 2 reasons - it can 'eat up' a lot of muscle, and it might mess up your thyroid so when you discontinue the use of it, you might get thyroid problems and start storing a lot of fat. However, its quite powerful. Only 'safe way' to use it is during AS cycle and with very careful dieting.

As for clen - I would avoid it as devil fears the christian cross. Too many sides for so little benefit. It messes up blood pressure, heart rate, shaking hands, cramps, headaches. And all that it does is increases metabolism. It works, yes, but the sides are awful.

If I were to choose on leaning out, I would go for cardarine. If I had to step on stage, I would do T3 with AS and cardarine. And no clen. Ever.

 

[delhibelly]

T3 is risky due to 2 reasons - it can 'eat up' a lot of muscle, and it might mess up your thyroid so when you discontinue the use of it, you might get thyroid problems and start storing a lot of fat. However, its quite powerful. Only 'safe way' to use it is during AS cycle and with very careful dieting.

As for clen - I would avoid it as devil fears the christian cross. Too many sides for so little benefit. It messes up blood pressure, heart rate, shaking hands, cramps, headaches. And all that it does is increases metabolism. It works, yes, but the sides are awful.

If I were to choose on leaning out, I would go for cardarine. If I had to step on stage, I would do T3 with AS and cardarine. And no clen. Ever.

Second that buddy! The thyroid is quite a hormone to be messing around with.


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[muskate]

Well,could you explain me the risks engaged to the T3 using & what if someone would stack that powerfull hormone with Clenbuterol? Some say that may gives you pumps and muscle waiste is down to nill. Is that true?


But , what if you stack those two together?( t3&GW)

I don't have much more to say ontop of what hasn't already been posted.

I highly recommend reading this article I wrote on the alternatives to clenbuterol/t3

http://www.evolutionary.org/forums/...buterol-muskate-(trevor-kouritzin)-41188.html

 

[22years]

clen works by using the thyroid ?


t3 with clen ,anyone?

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why everyone is blaming t3? overdoing something is bad,doesn t matter what it is. for t3 i use 25x2 a day with 40x2 clen. one month. Now t3 eats glyco,co would be a good thing to have carbs with fats,and protein on extra mode.


pics with Gw ,before and after,anyone?


I heard DNP is the best out there,but Lord.

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why everyone is blaming t3? overdoing something is bad,doesn t matter what it is. for t3 i use 25x2 a day with 40x2 clen. one month. Now t3 eats glyco,co would be a good thing to have carbs with fats,and protein on extra mode.


pics with Gw ,before and after,anyone?


I heard DNP is the best out there,but Lord.

 

[LevButlerov]

clen works by using the thyroid ?


t3 with clen ,anyone?

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why everyone is blaming t3? overdoing something is bad,doesn t matter what it is. for t3 i use 25x2 a day with 40x2 clen. one month. Now t3 eats glyco,co would be a good thing to have carbs with fats,and protein on extra mode.


pics with Gw ,before and after,anyone?


I heard DNP is the best out there,but Lord.

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why everyone is blaming t3? overdoing something is bad,doesn t matter what it is. for t3 i use 25x2 a day with 40x2 clen. one month. Now t3 eats glyco,co would be a good thing to have carbs with fats,and protein on extra mode.


pics with Gw ,before and after,anyone?


I heard DNP is the best out there,but Lord.

You can ask any doctor - thyroid drugs are some of the few drugs you should never ever use withtout a doctor prescription. It is a very crucial gland, and imbalances in this hormone can lead to very serious consequences. Don't play with it. As for the DNP - it is literally a deadly thing to use, so better stay away from it. It will get you lean, but you may end up lean and dead...

 

[delhibelly]

You can ask any doctor - thyroid drugs are some of the few drugs you should never ever use withtout a doctor prescription. It is a very crucial gland, and imbalances in this hormone can lead to very serious consequences. Don't play with it. As for the DNP - it is literally a deadly thing to use, so better stay away from it. It will get you lean, but you may end up lean and dead...

X2


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[muskate]

DNP is a horrible idea. The lethal and effective dosage are very similar. It is not worth the potential side effects.

Remember your health. Caradarine and N2slin are much safer alternatives all around.

 

[Masonic Bodybuilder]

When someone talks about all these dangerous compounds I find the best thing they can do is use none. It tells me they are looking for a quick fix and not already putting in the necessary work in on diet and training. I would focus on the basics first and then start looking for safe and effective alternatives such as N2Slin and Cardarine.

 

[22years]

At least works. Not everybody is talking that much about n2 and gw. But they all know T3 and Clen. I think everything is good in the right moderation. Not the minimum dose, just a bit above. I just wrote a book,anyone want some?

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Any doctor don t allow you anything illegal.

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offtopic. I wanted to become a freelancer,sorry freemason and they couldn t take my invitation as yes becouse i don t have a stabile job.

 

[Jay Scott]

T3 really works, but without using gear and onpoint dieting - it will start 'eating up' your muscle. As for clen, it boosts metabolism a little bit, but has nasty sides and it can really mess up your blood pressure

 

[22years]

i take about 80 clen with 25 t3,later on 40clen and 25 t3. i have 60tbs of clen and 30 of t3. By far i lost 2 kg in less than 9 days. I heard that clen is anticatabolic so it would help my little mucles that i have, and can do that even by reducing the cals with 40 something %. There is no such thing as diet. Only cals in vs out. I lost 20 kg by eating just fastfood. Can you inject Ghg in penis ?

 

[delhibelly]

i take about 80 clen with 25 t3,later on 40clen and 25 t3. i have 60tbs of clen and 30 of t3. By far i lost 2 kg in less than 9 days. I heard that clen is anticatabolic so it would help my little mucles that i have, and can do that even by reducing the cals with 40 something %. There is no such thing as diet. Only cals in vs out. I lost 20 kg by eating just fastfood. Can you inject Ghg in penis ?

If incoherence had an explanation..
No. No inject HGH in penis. Ever. At all.


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[22years]

why not?? what can you inject in the penis?

 

[delhibelly]

why not?? what can you inject in the penis?

You inject the penis into a vagina and that's all there is to it


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[22years]

if i would take Jintropin 2UI ED,with t3 ,that would be a good dill?

 

[delhibelly]

if i would take Jintropin 2UI ED,with t3 ,that would be a good dill?

Jintropin is usually fake so you need to take at least 3-5iu a day. T3 I can't recommend as its harsh on your thyroid hormone and can lead to permanent damage.

Try Testosterone instead


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[22years]

T3 is the safest products,becouse it is so complicated,with other words.

 

[22years]

Off topic question, to not start an other thread: What brand of ANavar do you rec?

 

[Iceman8400]

Bro, dont be afraid of using T3 some people are overdoing the sides of it.

Science shows if you stop taking T3 your Thyroid function is really fast back to normal.

Stay at 40mcgs of T3 daily and adding some Test and Masteron if your goal is cutting.

Every orals are bullshit no matter if Winstrol, Dianabol or whatsoever in modern bodybuilding stay away from that crap since it damages your gastrointestinals and liver. Everybody has a different sight on things personally I also dont go with Trenbolone it is just not necessary to deal with such compounds.

If you want to speed up your fat loss you can take Cardarine GW1516 at 20mg a day. Clenbuterol is not necessary and if you take it instead 40mcgs a day do the job. Better go with some Ephedrine HCL as it reduces appetite during your cut.

If you take T3 then go for 8 weeks and give your body a break for the same time. And dont forget you should not go over 40mcgs a day. This is a safe dosage to shed some fat and not to lose your hard earned muscle. And dont forget to take some Test or so to reduce overall catabolic situations.

 

[gearhead]

Bro, dont be afraid of using T3 some people are overdoing the sides of it.

Science shows if you stop taking T3 your Thyroid function is really fast back to normal.

Stay at 40mcgs of T3 daily and adding some Test and Masteron if your goal is cutting.

Every orals are bullshit no matter if Winstrol, Dianabol or whatsoever in modern bodybuilding stay away from that crap since it damages your gastrointestinals and liver. Everybody has a different sight on things personally I also dont go with Trenbolone it is just not necessary to deal with such compounds.

If you want to speed up your fat loss you can take Cardarine GW1516 at 20mg a day. Clenbuterol is not necessary and if you take it instead 40mcgs a day do the job. Better go with some Ephedrine HCL as it reduces appetite during your cut.

If you take T3 then go for 8 weeks and give your body a break for the same time. And dont forget you should not go over 40mcgs a day. This is a safe dosage to shed some fat and not to lose your hard earned muscle. And dont forget to take some Test or so to reduce overall catabolic situations.

bro good points...i think brothers be hating on T3 because it's too catabolic, doesnt mean it's true

 

[dylangemelli]

what exactly is the point in talking to someone that posted this thread 2 years ago? im guess hes NOT hearing it now

 

[Mobster]

T3 is the safest products,becouse it is so complicated,with other words.

You lost me in translation.

 

[stevesmi]

T3-PCT from n2bm is something you want to use while recovering from a T3 cycle

 

[dylangemelli]

You lost me in translation.

LOLLL seriously

 

[Masonic Bodybuilder]

Things like T3, clen, DNP tell me that someone is lazy and wants a magic drug to get rid of fat. Just work harder. Eat less and/or move more. Simple as that. You just have to be consistent. Why risk fucking up your thyroid when it is completely unnecessary?

 

[muskate]

Bro, dont be afraid of using T3 some people are overdoing the sides of it.

Science shows if you stop taking T3 your Thyroid function is really fast back to normal.

Stay at 40mcgs of T3 daily and adding some Test and Masteron if your goal is cutting.

Every orals are bullshit no matter if Winstrol, Dianabol or whatsoever in modern bodybuilding stay away from that crap since it damages your gastrointestinals and liver. Everybody has a different sight on things personally I also dont go with Trenbolone it is just not necessary to deal with such compounds.

If you want to speed up your fat loss you can take Cardarine GW1516 at 20mg a day. Clenbuterol is not necessary and if you take it instead 40mcgs a day do the job. Better go with some Ephedrine HCL as it reduces appetite during your cut.

If you take T3 then go for 8 weeks and give your body a break for the same time. And dont forget you should not go over 40mcgs a day. This is a safe dosage to shed some fat and not to lose your hard earned muscle. And dont forget to take some Test or so to reduce overall catabolic situations.

The problem with T3 is that it does not differentiate between muscle and fat. It simply increases metabolism. Unless you are running a hefty dosage of anabolics, you will loose a combination of both muscle and fat when running it.

Cardarine is a much safer option. It's also not catabolic so there is no risk of muscle loss.

 

[Iceman8400]

Me personally think a person using T3, Clen etc... isnt lazy at all that person is just smart if he/she can handle it carefully and within a reasonable range. Same goes with steroids and ALL performance enhancing compounds. What is the point for me to do as much exercise possible? I dont want to get my body exhausted or my joints. I think to much exercise is also not healthy but as I said everybody has a different sight on things, right.


Of course if you are not carefully in using T3 it can rip of your muscle thats why take it easy 25mcgs - 40mcs is more than enough for enhancing fat loss. Support it with some Testo and Masteron and you should be fine.

In addition you have to eat a Protein rich diet. Cardarine is awesome if you get some legit stuff, really.

 

[Mobster]

Me personally think a person using T3, Clen etc... isnt lazy at all that person is just smart if he/she can handle it carefully and within a reasonable range. Same goes with steroids and ALL performance enhancing compounds. What is the point for me to do as much exercise possible? I dont want to get my body exhausted or my joints. I think to much exercise is also not healthy but as I said everybody has a different sight on things, right.


Of course if you are not carefully in using T3 it can rip of your muscle thats why take it easy 25mcgs - 40mcs is more than enough for enhancing fat loss. Support it with some Testo and Masteron and you should be fine.

In addition you have to eat a Protein rich diet. Cardarine is awesome if you get some legit stuff, really.

It's absolutely the worst kind of attitude that gives PED's such a bad rep. What a lazy ass.

 

[Iceman8400]

I have waited with bated breath for such an inappropriated reaction. Please act your age!

 

[stevesmi]

my workouts are quick, fast, and intense, focusing on 1 muscle group per session.. I am in and out of the gym in probably 35 minutes.. and that includes 10 minutes of post workout stretching

you don't need to spend 90 minutes at the gym.. anyone who does that is either socializing, playing with phone, or one of those guys who takes 8 minutes between sets.

i think that consolidating your workouts make a lot of sense

 

[Iceman8400]

I am following a ketogenic diet my workout is a whole body every day 1 exercise for every muscle group and 3 sets per exercise. I am doing so since sience has shown that such workouts can maximize fat loss because of the lymp sytem is working perfectly.

Duration of workout is approx. 45 minutes each seassion. All other things will be optimized with a proper diet.

Wild caught Salmon and Sardines (can) is for good Omega 3 support and both has shown to have minimal toxins. It is very important to keep your body as much toxin free as possible since it has to work perfectly. Canned Sardines are good, why?? If you take them canned it will be oil in there.....the oil takes the toxins out of the fish....just take it out of the can and wash it with water to get away the oil and always use pink Himalaya salt.

Then Eggs but good ones biologically!

MCT oil with fresh salad, apple cider.

Avocado meshed with juice of a half lime or citrus, then add salt, pepper and a bit onions and garlic. ( Taste sooo good ) Dip your Fish or eggs with it.

 

[muskate]

I am following a ketogenic diet my workout is a whole body every day 1 exercise for every muscle group and 3 sets per exercise. I am doing so since sience has shown that such workouts can maximize fat loss because of the lymp sytem is working perfectly.

Duration of workout is approx. 45 minutes each seassion. All other things will be optimized with a proper diet.

Wild caught Salmon and Sardines (can) is for good Omega 3 support and both has shown to have minimal toxins. It is very important to keep your body as much toxin free as possible since it has to work perfectly. Canned Sardines are good, why?? If you take them canned it will be oil in there.....the oil takes the toxins out of the fish....just take it out of the can and wash it with water to get away the oil and always use pink Himalaya salt.

Then Eggs but good ones biologically!

MCT oil with fresh salad, apple cider.

Avocado meshed with juice of a half lime or citrus, then add salt, pepper and a bit onions and garlic. ( Taste sooo good ) Dip your Fish or eggs with it.

Everything you are doing is really well thought out and science based. I am impressed man. Good job.

Also look into canned mackerel. Very high in omega 3s and low in mercury. Similar to sardines. You can buy smoked mackerel tins. Tastes awesome. Very similar to smoked salmon.

 

[Masonic Bodybuilder]

Avocado and whole eggs are my favourite fat sources. I definitely do not eat enough fish. Tough living with kids though since they are not keen on the smell. I always supplement with fish oil.