I'm saying that I need to order next week, and I do not believe in spamming for post counts. (It's rude, and provides no positive contribution to the community) I have ROBO's info, and if I have not acquired the contact info or list from BW by the time I intend to order I will go with ROBO. Not because I am upset with not having the info, but because they Both have nothing but exceptional reviews, and I have read every thread that I have seen involving both. I am new to the UGL arena. I was fortunate to live overseas and have access to pharma grade gear for my first 4 cycles. I am also a creature of habit, and if I go with ROBO then I will have to break habit and use a different test compound. I gambled with a UGL that had mixed reviews back in Feb. I ordered 100 ML of sust 250 for a friend and myself. I can't say I was "screwed" because I got 100 ml of sust, but it seems under dosed. The point of all of this is both have earned my respect because of what the community has said, but in this community my respect is near meaningless until I have proved my value. I intend on doing so but highly doubt that it will be achieved prior to when I intend on ordering.