SARM question

[DylK]

I just made an account on this forum because I have a question regarding SARMS.

I am 17 years old, but before you guys hop on the bandwagon with pitchforks because I'm underage, I'm 17, but I'm not stupid. My question has to do with when I am older, I am almost certain I will do a SARM cycle within the next 2 years.

Heres where my question comes in: I want to do a cycle a couple months after I turn 18, not for size, but more for strength. I have been lifting for about 2 years, and although I'm not the most swole guy in the gym, I'm still pretty big, but I am very strong as I revolve my training around powerlifting/Olympic lifts.

I have tried to find a clear answer on whether it is safe or not to do a SARM cycle at 18, but the answers are very diverse and inconsistent.

From what I have picked up, SARMS don't convert estrogen so they will not stunt growth, that's a plus in my situation since I still believe I have an inch or two left.

The real problem is, not many answers were clear on hormonal issues, I know SARMS are VERY VERY small for suppression, but if someone could explain to me how bad a cycle COULD be, that would be very helpful.

Because majority of the answers stated a lot about HTPA, and messing with hormones early, etc. My friend however just ran Ostarine, and though he was suppressed a little, he took it with no PCT and is back to normal Test Levels wise.

Would it be stupid to run a cycle at 18, to get an edge for strength (I play football, run track, and weightlift) using osta or lgd, or is it okay if I am SMART about it.

I have no issue waiting until I am older, but if there isn't an issue with starting at 18, why not?

Thanks for the help guys,
Dylan.

 

[Wilbur858]

They had very very little suppression in the clinical doses. But no one takes clinical doses.



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[Wilbur858]

Secondly, there's no difference between the day before your 18th birthday and the day after. Simply another day you could fuck up your system for life and that goes for the rest of your life, but generally speaking at around 27-30y/o your hormones are going to start declining and that is when I would say the optimal time to start anything that fucks with hormones if there even is an optional time.

But that being said, I started sarms at 18 and 7 weeks before my 20th birthday, I jumped on gear and I've been on since. Bottom line, sarms are a gateway drug and you will progress to harsher things far far earlier than you would have otherwise. So understand that you're starting an unquenchable thirst.

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[muskate]

You seem like a smart kid. SARMS are minimally suppressive of natural testosterone production. Yes, the suppression is only minimal but I really don't feel that messing around with anything hormonal is smart until you are at least 21. Your body is still going through puberty before that time.

If you are adamant on using something then yes, SARMS would be a MUCH smarter option then steroids - but I don't think even SARMS would be smart.

If you want to use something before you are 21, I would use either a:
1. A good natural herbal non-hormonal testosterone booster like HCGenerate from n2bm.com
2. Cardarine GW. Cardarine is sold as a SARM but it is actually non-hormonal. It's awesome for athleticism since it'll give you a huge increase in endurance. It's a favourite among all crossfit athletes.

 

[AddarInc]

You've done your research thats great to see..

Muskate has said it well..

 

[Mobster]

You've done your research thats great to see..

Muskate has said it well..

But that's it. While I'm happy you've no plans to use just yet I still think 19 is still too young. Your test levels will be just as high then as they are now.

 

[stevesmi]

my broscience cliche rule is SARM's at 21 is okay and steroids at 28 are okay

there are other factors at work. if you live in mom's basement and mom still cooks for you then i do not see the purpose in spending money on either until you get your own money and place. it is the same logic as the kid who buys a BMW and still lives with his parents when that money should be spent on his own place. when i hear a kid inheriting 50K and spending that money on a car which will depreciate in value instead of a downpayment on a home for their future i SMH

 

[DylK]

That's also something I thought about, when you start seeing gains from SARMS you want more and more, leading it into AAS early. I guess I'll just stay clear for now.

 

[Mobster]

That's also something I thought about, when you start seeing gains from SARMS you want more and more, leading it into AAS early. I guess I'll just stay clear for now.

Understanding peoples motivation is part of it for sure.

 

[DylK]

Yeah I figured that it wouldn't be the smartest thing to do. And if being adamant means potentially fucking up my body then I can for sure wait.

I've actually heard really good things about HCGenerate I might look into it, the same with GW for track season because I've seen a thread about it being great for conditioning.

Thank you for your help

 

[Mobster]

Pleasure. The key thing here is to maximize what you have naturally first.

 

[LevButlerov]

I just made an account on this forum because I have a question regarding SARMS.

I am 17 years old, but before you guys hop on the bandwagon with pitchforks because I'm underage, I'm 17, but I'm not stupid. My question has to do with when I am older, I am almost certain I will do a SARM cycle within the next 2 years.

Heres where my question comes in: I want to do a cycle a couple months after I turn 18, not for size, but more for strength. I have been lifting for about 2 years, and although I'm not the most swole guy in the gym, I'm still pretty big, but I am very strong as I revolve my training around powerlifting/Olympic lifts.

I have tried to find a clear answer on whether it is safe or not to do a SARM cycle at 18, but the answers are very diverse and inconsistent.

From what I have picked up, SARMS don't convert estrogen so they will not stunt growth, that's a plus in my situation since I still believe I have an inch or two left. The problem about estrogen is not that it will stunt growth, but that it will cause a lot of estrogen related side effects. And you will most probably keep growing for another 4 years. Most guys I know, including myself, kept growing till 21. With time the pace got slower, but there was still growth.

The real problem is, not many answers were clear on hormonal issues, I know SARMS are VERY VERY small for suppression, but if someone could explain to me how bad a cycle COULD be, that would be very helpful. The worst part in taking PED's, even such relatively safe ones as Ostarine at such a young age, is that it is hard to predict the consequences that there will be. This is why it is best to wait till you are fully developed.

Because majority of the answers stated a lot about HTPA, and messing with hormones early, etc. My friend however just ran Ostarine, and though he was suppressed a little, he took it with no PCT and is back to normal Test Levels wise. First of all - did he confirm that with blood work? If not, consider him not-recovered. Secondly, the fact that someone else got away with something risky does not mean you will. Hell, even he might not get away with it if he ran another cycle, since the side effects are unpredictable.

Would it be stupid to run a cycle at 18, to get an edge for strength (I play football, run track, and weightlift) using osta or lgd, or is it okay if I am SMART about it. In the best of the cases - Cardarine GW or SR9009 - these are by far the safest thing I can think of.

I have no issue waiting until I am older, but if there isn't an issue with starting at 18, why not?

Thanks for the help guys,
Dylan.

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[Masonic Bodybuilder]

While SARMs are minimally suppressive I still think it is better to wait. Your testosterone levels are through the roof at your age so if you are eating right and training hard you will make great gains.