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Australian Steroid Source Talk - PART 76

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Contopaxi said:
It’s a weird injury and really frustrating!
Some movements I’m fine but more everyday things are affected for me.. can’t carry all the groceries into the house in one trip now ;)


I’m on some heavy anti inflammatory tablets for a few weeks and if they don’t do the trick I’ll probably look into BPC 157 again.
Loved it when I had shoulder issues and apparently for the tendons etc it’s the peptide to use.

Flirted with the idea of some Tb500 but it’s a lot more expensive and seems to be geared towards wound / bone healing more so


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Have you looked into PRP?

I have never had it for tennis elbow but have had it for other tendon issues and it worked well, I know some people that it has worked for tennis elbow with as well.
 
Has anyone used PPL domestic oils?

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Contopaxi said:
It’s a weird injury and really frustrating!
Some movements I’m fine but more everyday things are affected for me.. can’t carry all the groceries into the house in one trip now ;)


I’m on some heavy anti inflammatory tablets for a few weeks and if they don’t do the trick I’ll probably look into BPC 157 again.
Loved it when I had shoulder issues and apparently for the tendons etc it’s the peptide to use.

Flirted with the idea of some Tb500 but it’s a lot more expensive and seems to be geared towards wound / bone healing more so


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Have you tried PRP?

I havent used it for tennis elbow but had good results for other tendon issues, I Know people that have had good results with tennis elbow as well.
 
ironlift said:
What's your wickr again mate? Lost all my contacts during update.
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sent you a PM bud

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WogBoy said:
Yeah I got a bit of a Hercules stash, goes bit better than alright that's for sure
Test Running omnia atm
I'm a bit of a gear whore , I've run quite a few labs , some great , some terrible.
Used to like arl a while back, until I got a batch with this hell crippling pip , how's arl been lately, anyone know?
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It's floating about... Havent heard much for a while!
 
Kal-el said:
Who doesnt, but the thought of my own personal choc top just isnt appealing.
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I feel sorry for all these lowies you disregard for not taking advantage of their other orifices.
They all know the term "ATM", I personally call them then "clean up crew" for a good reason.

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sssxc said:
I feel sorry for all these lowies you disregard for not taking advantage of their other orifices.
They all know the term "ATM", I personally call them then "clean up crew" for a good reason.

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They just need to prepare properly with a douche.
I love going from ass to pussy and back again... Damn.
 
Fellas, in light of my current liver issues I'm going to come off everything whether it has anything to do with liver or not, to give my body a rest for a month or two. So will have some MA labs somatozine mk677 available and some test e and eq available for pretty cheap. Wickr notsure007 if interested.
 
ozevo7 said:
Fellas, in light of my current liver issues I'm going to come off everything whether it has anything to do with liver or not, to give my body a rest for a month or two. So will have some MA labs somatozine mk677 available and some test e and eq available for pretty cheap. Wickr notsure007 if interested.
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Hope ur liver is ok mate.
 
Green top hgh 10iu vial for 50 aus at purple panda domestic.
20 weeks at 2 iu day x 5 days a week would be about 1k.
Would that dose do fuck all of anything?
Or double?
 
harrywho said:
Green top hgh 10iu vial for 50 aus at purple panda domestic.
20 weeks at 2 iu day x 5 days a week would be about 1k.
Would that dose do fuck all of anything?
Or double?
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Have you heard any feedback about the green tops from purple panda?

I heard that whatever batch they got that was from the same factory as godtropin, was all over the place.
 
harrywho said:
Green top hgh 10iu vial for 50 aus at purple panda domestic.
20 weeks at 2 iu day x 5 days a week would be about 1k.
Would that dose do fuck all of anything?
Or double?
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That would do fuck all for your age.
If you were 40 it would have benefits.

Generics dont come close to human grade.
15iu of generics to be equivalent to 4-5iu of phama
 
zeeibi said:
Anyone running Goldrush test e and run bloods? Or just rate it in general.. smoothness, pip?
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Gold rush is smooth AF with no PIP.
As is literally every UGL now i find, almost like PIP is a thing of the past.

plat said:
That would do fuck all for your age.
If you were 40 it would have benefits.

Generics dont come close to human grade.
15iu of generics to be equivalent to 4-5iu of phama
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so in reality even though you're shelling out more per IU for pharma, it clearly ends up becoming cheaper or somewhat breaking even simply because of the dose youll need.
 
Yeh bud i got bloods done on 125mg a week and test level was 25 so def accurately dosed. Have been using it for about 4 months now i think and no issues
 
Thappy said:
i couldnt even pick up a drink when it was at its worst. Hammer curl movement was agony. Safe to say didnt have a wank in a while.... with out the strap
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Yeah I put a strap around my neck to when I wank.

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harrywho said:
Hope u get paid double /tripple or even quad In the rain... Wait, guess it's only raining in brisbane lol. I'm working tomorrow better still be raining... Tripple time!
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Fuck all that, pure hourly rate.

Splita the men from the mice.

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ozevo7 said:
Fellas, in light of my current liver issues I'm going to come off everything whether it has anything to do with liver or not, to give my body a rest for a month or two. So will have some MA labs somatozine mk677 available and some test e and eq available for pretty cheap. Wickr notsure007 if interested.
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fk mate hope your okay keep us posted
Contopaxi said:
It’s a weird injury and really frustrating!
Some movements I’m fine but more everyday things are affected for me.. can’t carry all the groceries into the house in one trip now ;)


I’m on some heavy anti inflammatory tablets for a few weeks and if they don’t do the trick I’ll probably look into BPC 157 again.
Loved it when I had shoulder issues and apparently for the tendons etc it’s the peptide to use.

Flirted with the idea of some Tb500 but it’s a lot more expensive and seems to be geared towards wound / bone healing more so


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hey bud long time no speak ...ive touched on this before as I had it in both arms...could be due to the long black dick who knows ;) PRP is def the way to go Ive had it a few times and it def worked not that expensive here in Australia either. I ended up having my ulnar nerve 'transposed' as that was the cause (and weights) and even the surgeon said that the PRP made the tendon look like brand new. Now I do light eccentric curls biceps, hammers etc to keep things right but still occasionally get a flare up. Currently dealing with brachialis muscle pain and going light. Just dont overtrain it whatever you do, its a bitch but it will go away. Have you seen the theraband flexbar? if not google it. Ive got a few to send u one good for rehabbing it

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10029185j said:
fk mate hope your okay keep us postedhey bud long time no speak ...ive touched on this before as I had it in both arms...could be due to the long black dick who knows ;) PRP is def the way to go Ive had it a few times and it def worked not that expensive here in Australia either. I ended up having my ulnar nerve 'transposed' as that was the cause (and weights) and even the surgeon said that the PRP made the tendon look like brand new. Now I do light eccentric curls biceps, hammers etc to keep things right but still occasionally get a flare up. Currently dealing with brachialis muscle pain and going light. Just dont overtrain it whatever you do, its a bitch but it will go away. Have you seen the theraband flexbar? if not google it. Ive got a few to send u one good for rehabbing it

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Hey Man I have the blue bar and have been using that but I probably should have gotten a lighter resistance one.

I’ll look into PRP if the problem persists after the BPC run.
I’ve stopped doing direct bicep work until it goes away and some pulling exercises I’ve had to stop but it shouldn’t inhibit my training too much.

What else sucks is that I can’t do DB bench pressing because grabbing the dumbbells and putting them up from my knees hurts but the actual pressing is fine and I feel like a tool asking someone to pass me dumbbells


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Contopaxi said:
Hey Man I have the blue bar and have been using that but I probably should have gotten a lighter resistance one.

I’ll look into PRP if the problem persists after the BPC run.
I’ve stopped doing direct bicep work until it goes away and some pulling exercises I’ve had to stop but it shouldn’t inhibit my training too much.

What else sucks is that I can’t do DB bench pressing because grabbing the dumbbells and putting them up from my knees hurts but the actual pressing is fine and I feel like a tool asking someone to pass me dumbbells


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Get a gym buddy, must still lift.

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Verses said:
Get a gym buddy, must still lift.

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I train at the weirdest times and all over the place so it’s shit to rely on others.
Plus no fun unracking plates for my weak bitch friends


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Ey boys,

Looking to use mt2, will be my first time. I got nice olive skin when i go in the sun so not pasty white or anything - but work for the last 3-4 years has me covered head to toe so i dont see much sun. What are your protocols / how do i use it??
 
DEEZNUTS999 said:
Ey boys,

Looking to use mt2, will be my first time. I got nice olive skin when i go in the sun so not pasty white or anything - but work for the last 3-4 years has me covered head to toe so i dont see much sun. What are your protocols / how do i use it??
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Draw a typical insulin pin full with bac water,
Reconstitute the powder, and swirl it in your hand NOT SHAKE
draw to the 5th line on the insulin needle should be about 5mm (half a center meter)
Pull the little fat with in 1 inch or your belly button, swab with alcohol
At 45 degrees, put needle in and push.
Hold for 5, then pull out.

Make sure you do It right before you go to sleep. Or you will feel a little blahhh

Now, its your first, so after about a week. Increase to 10. That is about 10mm, or 1cm of the slin pin.

I can talk ui, but it confuses people. I hope I made this idiot proof.

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Just wandering if some of you older guys over the years as you get older your dick gets smaller? Was unfortunatly having sex Wyeth my missus tonight and she asked why my dick isn't as big as it used to be.I tried to tell her it was only coz she doesn't make me fully hard coz of how fat she is etc but i think she is right coz 6 years ago when i met her my dick was 8 inches and now its 7,so ive lost an inch somewhere.and when i used to fuck her years ago she would moan and make noise but now she just closes her eyes and turns her head and nearly falls asleep she is that quite so im quessing she can't feel much anymore.so any you guys lost dick size over the years?
 
ironlift said:
Just wandering if some of you older guys over the years as you get older your dick gets smaller? Was unfortunatly having sex Wyeth my missus tonight and she asked why my dick isn't as big as it used to be.I tried to tell her it was only coz she doesn't make me fully hard coz of how fat she is etc but i think she is right coz 6 years ago when i met her my dick was 8 inches and now its 7,so ive lost an inch somewhere.and when i used to fuck her years ago she would moan and make noise but now she just closes her eyes and turns her head and nearly falls asleep she is that quite so im quessing she can't feel much anymore.so any you guys lost dick size over the years?
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It's down the back of the sofa.
 
ironlift said:
Just wandering if some of you older guys over the years as you get older your dick gets smaller? Was unfortunatly having sex Wyeth my missus tonight and she asked why my dick isn't as big as it used to be.I tried to tell her it was only coz she doesn't make me fully hard coz of how fat she is etc but i think she is right coz 6 years ago when i met her my dick was 8 inches and now its 7,so ive lost an inch somewhere.and when i used to fuck her years ago she would moan and make noise but now she just closes her eyes and turns her head and nearly falls asleep she is that quite so im quessing she can't feel much anymore.so any you guys lost dick size over the years?
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Yeah bro, I'm nearly down to me last 2 inches, and what really sux is my balls are sagging like fuck now too . when I sit down to take a shit , my balls splash in the water,
 
DEEZNUTS999 said:
I just wanted to know how many mcg i should be using and how many days per week haha, that just made it complicated 😂
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Type 3 here, 250mcg twice a week till it kicks in and then 250mcg once a week to maintain. To reconstitute 10mg push 4ml bac water into vial, 1iu = 250mcg.
 
I have been running MT2 for years

1mg front loaded for 7 days and I’ll have my color and then 750 mg every 4 days for a couple weeks and then 750 mg once per week.

I get tanned really quick when doing higher doses like that.

If you want to be brown in 1.5 weeks

Run that protocol and see the sun 5 hours out of the week


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Oppositeofnatty said:
I have been running MT2 for years

1mg front loaded for 7 days and I’ll have my color and then 750 mg every 4 days for a couple weeks and then 750 mg once per week.

I get tanned really quick when doing higher doses like that.

If you want to be brown in 1.5 weeks

Run that protocol and see the sun 5 hours out of the week


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Takes me like 2 weeks to get to 750mcg with out feeling like im going to chuck. Im albino as fuck. But does give me nice color
 
plat said:
That would do fuck all for your age.
If you were 40 it would have benefits.

Generics dont come close to human grade.
15iu of generics to be equivalent to 4-5iu of phama
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Well nuts to that than...

Also fuck I wish I invested in bitcoin... Fuck, fuck!
 
ironlift said:
Just wandering if some of you older guys over the years as you get older your dick gets smaller? Was unfortunatly having sex Wyeth my missus tonight and she asked why my dick isn't as big as it used to be.I tried to tell her it was only coz she doesn't make me fully hard coz of how fat she is etc but i think she is right coz 6 years ago when i met her my dick was 8 inches and now its 7,so ive lost an inch somewhere.and when i used to fuck her years ago she would moan and make noise but now she just closes her eyes and turns her head and nearly falls asleep she is that quite so im quessing she can't feel much anymore.so any you guys lost dick size over the years?
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I would think no.

I would say ur estrogen is either hi or low. It can make ur dick not as big and not as hard. When estrogen is on point it's maximum size and hardness... Plus use Viagra.

Also fuck the bitch find some new young sluts to fuck.

Came home from work last night and took extra half arimdex and was in a bad mood cause now my estro was too low. And was tired after 2 weeks nightshift. I wanted to batt off before bed but couldn't be bothered to fuck her, or if I ask her to suck my dick somtimes she does is begrudgingly... So I batt off down stairs and she's like what are you doing... I'm like playing with my dick... Shes like you want me to suck im like nope... She wasn't happy. But fucks sake my exs used to suck my dick and not make such a fuss stupid bitch. Just suck it like a good girl and at least pretend to like it bitch. She's too spoilt needs to be brought down some notches.
And if she doesn't suck it, I'll tell her I'll get another girl to do it.

As soon as I'm not sexually attracted to her like when she's old I see no point in being with the girl.
 
Looking at getting back onto some SARMs after my last PCT.

Was on Transformix, which seemed ok. I know I was shut down by my bloods after doing one of their multi-blends, and gains were 'ok' but looking at trying another source for reference.

Anyone used some of these local guys that are out now? in particular Maxx Sarms?
 
Fiver said:
Looking at getting back onto some SARMs after my last PCT.

Was on Transformix, which seemed ok. I know I was shut down by my bloods after doing one of their multi-blends, and gains were 'ok' but looking at trying another source for reference.

Anyone used some of these local guys that are out now? in particular Maxx Sarms?
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a guy i know used elite sarms LGD and has gotten in quite good shape. its so exxy though
 
just got blood and saliva T/E2 experiment results back. Did bloods and saliva at exactly the same time. One on a male and the other on a female. Male on Sups, female on Dr prescribed HRT.
The reference ranges don't match up between bloods and saliva but will show the numbers.
Male:
bloods: TT 81 (ref 10-32). Free T 3100 (ref 150-620). E2 56 (ref 40-160)
Saliva: T 2162 (ref 207-1173). E2 24.1 (ref 2.2-11.3)
E2 was double the norm in saliva test, half the normal range in bloods. Total Testosterone almost triple in bloods but double in saliva. Free T was 5 x normal.

Female;
Bloods: TT 9.4 (ref <2). Free T 98 (ref <30). E2 918 (ref 77-1145)
Saliva: T 202.7 (ref 25-473). E2 13.7 (ref 4.7-23.1)
So saliva showed T as half the normal range, while bloods showed triple the normal range. Totally out.

http://imedical.com.au/order/blood-tests/hormones-general
 
Contopaxi said:
Hey Man I have the blue bar and have been using that but I probably should have gotten a lighter resistance one.

I’ll look into PRP if the problem persists after the BPC run.
I’ve stopped doing direct bicep work until it goes away and some pulling exercises I’ve had to stop but it shouldn’t inhibit my training too much.

What else sucks is that I can’t do DB bench pressing because grabbing the dumbbells and putting them up from my knees hurts but the actual pressing is fine and I feel like a tool asking someone to pass me dumbbells


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Got the blue as well...they are pretry good. Also try the reverse tyler twist. BPC will fo some good if its not a nerve problem

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bros whats your sweet spot estrogen level....bloods show estrogen at normal anything lower then 150...whats the best range for you?

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10029185j said:
Got the blue as well...they are pretry good. Also try the reverse tyler twist. BPC will fo some good if its not a nerve problem

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So your constant tendonitis was caused by ulnar entrapment?

Do you think the surgery was worth it?
 
Kal-el said:
So your constant tendonitis was caused by ulnar entrapment?

Do you think the surgery was worth it?
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Partly. Not entrapment but it was loose so it flicked in and out of the groove. You could hear and feel it. Was not painful but aggravates the medial epicondyle as it brushes it everytime. Surgery was def worth it..at the same time had the medial epicondyle debrided to remove bad tissue etc but since the nerve has moved no problems at all. Still have to do the other arm though and it takes about 4 months to rehab.

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Deca has been tested and good to go for the deca only cycle.
Since dropping test my resting BPM has dropped 20. Bloods were all good on test so that's interesting.
Wish me luck
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Speaking of cabergoline... How often do you guys use it?
Iv been off it about 6 weeks and u know i love the stuff. I feel better, sex is better... More kinky/perverted etc... Can't wait to get back on it.
 
harrywho said:
Speaking of cabergoline... How often do you guys use it?
Iv been off it about 6 weeks and u know i love the stuff. I feel better, sex is better... More kinky/perverted etc... Can't wait to get back on it.
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I wouldnt use it more than 2 weeks at .25mg .5mg. Gets everything back in check.

I only need to use it like that and have a lot better results and feel a lot more in control.

I use it maybe once every 8 weeks and only usually a week
 
Thappy said:
I wouldnt use it more than 2 weeks at .25mg .5mg. Gets everything back in check.

I only need to use it like that and have a lot better results and feel a lot more in control.

I use it maybe once every 8 weeks and only usually a week
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Is there anything you don't cycle mate ha ha. Literally a walking talking science experiment! Are you using it for a particular hormone? Im guessing one week will be insufficient on a deca only cycle.

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rockdog79 said:
Is there anything you don't cycle mate ha ha. Literally a walking talking science experiment! Are you using it for a particular hormone? Im guessing one week will be insufficient on a deca only cycle.

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When you have done it for many years you try most things. And mess up a lot of things...

But I don't know why anyone would do a deca only cycle. But seeing as estrogen would be at a minimum so would prolactin/progesterone so shouldn't need a dopamine antagonist.
 
rockdog79 said:
Is there anything you don't cycle mate ha ha. Literally a walking talking science experiment! Are you using it for a particular hormone? Im guessing one week will be insufficient on a deca only cycle.

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Only use it with tren if I need and tren and npp.
 
Thappy said:
I wouldnt use it more than 2 weeks at .25mg .5mg. Gets everything back in check.

I only need to use it like that and have a lot better results and feel a lot more in control.

I use it maybe once every 8 weeks and only usually a week
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That's a very wise way to use it.
I'll follow somthing like this for a good while before running it straight again.
 
The two worst sides iv felt from steroids are 1 - low or hi estrogen. 2- hi prolactin.

If prolactin is lowered and estrogen is in control, than the only other real side is like insomnia from tren... Acne...

Hi prolactin makes you paranoid and jealous..

Low estrogen makes you anxious and depressed and down on urself.

Hi estrogen makes you insecure like a bitch and anxious.

Out of whack hormones give the worst sides.
So caber is important to use
 
rockdog79 said:
Hope it goes well mate. You running anything to keep your dick working?

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Deca converts to estrogen too so no.
Getting morning woods now, havnt bad that since I was a teenager

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diragz said:
Deca converts to estrogen too so no.
Getting morning woods now, havnt bad that since I was a teenager

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Deca will have your total test near on 0 and not sure what it would do to free test when not running test with it(usually give a really high false reading)
 
harrywho said:
Speaking of cabergoline... How often do you guys use it?
Iv been off it about 6 weeks and u know i love the stuff. I feel better, sex is better... More kinky/perverted etc... Can't wait to get back on it.
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I didn’t know cabergoline is good for sex.. i take 0.25mg 2 times a week. I thought only test make you horny..
how about proviron ?? Does same job as caber ?


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zirapb47 said:
I didn’t know cabergoline is good for sex.. i take 0.25mg 2 times a week. I thought only test make you horny..
how about proviron ?? Does same job as caber ?


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It increases dopamine which increases libido and makes you more perverted. Increased dopamine lowers prolactin which can reduce your refractory period.

Proviron makes more free test. Proviron gives you great confidence and sense of well being, and is great for libido.
Test, tren, caber and proviron would make u horny as fuck. If it doesn't than ur estrogen is way out of range.
 
harrywho said:
It increases dopamine which increases libido and makes you more perverted. Increased dopamine lowers prolactin which can reduce your refractory period.

Proviron makes more free test. Proviron gives you great confidence and sense of well being, and is great for libido.
Test, tren, caber and proviron would make u horny as fuck. If it doesn't than ur estrogen is way out of range.
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Ye bro i did my cycle with test deca eq caber adex and proviron. So good. Week 5 to week 14 so horny.. smashed chick 2 times a day atleast lol and sometime mestrubate too lol..
i like that horny feeling, wish i can stay on test for whole life lol..
next cycle will be with tren and i’ll do caber and proviron again.


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"i like that horny feeling, wish i can stay on test for whole life lol"

I'm sure a few blokes on here will back that quote.. Who are living it!

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zirapb47 said:
Ye bro i did my cycle with test deca eq caber adex and proviron. So good. Week 5 to week 14 so horny.. smashed chick 2 times a day atleast lol and sometime mestrubate too lol..
i like that horny feeling, wish i can stay on test for whole life lol..
next cycle will be with tren and i’ll do caber and proviron again.


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You can stay on ur whole life lol.

Proviron is the shit...my misses really gets off by being fucked like a slut and slapped etc, but to have that kind of sexual aggression you need the right steroids and great estrogen levels. Iv been playing around with it and it's estrogen lowering properties. It works OK as an ai but if you miss one or two days of proviron estrogen will shoot right up way hi.
If you used proviron as an ai during cycle you would need to transition over to aromasin when the cycle ends or the rise in estrogen would be huge, possible gyno and acne flare up.

So you either need a low dose of aromasin than normal like quarter eod and then proviron on top to lower additional estrogen.
Orrr just use a higher dose of proviron but be extremely aware that stopping proviron within a day estrogen will go sky hi. This is my experience to date...

I wrote this out before but better and it all deleted itself fuck my life!
 
rockdog79 said:
Yeah right that seems bizarre. Keep us posted.

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Why is science bizzare? Might be broscience you're basing your knowledge off. Half the stuff I read on here is redicioulos. Let's add 100 different ancillaries to control the affects test gives you. Yoyo mood swings, shit skin, shit digestion, water retention.



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diragz said:
Why is science bizzare? Might be broscience you're basing your knowledge off. Half the stuff I read on here is redicioulos. Let's add 100 different ancillaries to control the affects test gives you. Yoyo mood swings, shit skin, shit digestion, water retention.



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Mostly here.
https://www.anabolics.com/pages/Side-Effects-of-Deca

I dont get bad sides from test at 500mg a week. Only ancilliaries are aromasin.

No offence intended, good luck with it.


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zeeibi said:
how longs it last if u make ur own batch and keep in fridge?
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30 days they recommend from the time the seal is pierced. Could be wrong. Water can be really bad health wise. In saying that before i knew i used stuff that was a year old
 
Thappy said:
30 days they recommend from the time the seal is pierced. Could be wrong. Water can be really bad health wise. In saying that before i knew i used stuff that was a year old
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even just the bac water itself? not once mixed with hcg..
 
zeeibi said:
even just the bac water itself? not once mixed with hcg..
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That was my understanding but as i said not 100% i have used it way past that and its been fine. Some bac water you buy has an expiry from memory. Im sure someone else will chime in
 
harrywho said:
You can stay on ur whole life lol.

Proviron is the shit...my misses really gets off by being fucked like a slut and slapped etc, but to have that kind of sexual aggression you need the right steroids and great estrogen levels. Iv been playing around with it and it's estrogen lowering properties. It works OK as an ai but if you miss one or two days of proviron estrogen will shoot right up way hi.
If you used proviron as an ai during cycle you would need to transition over to aromasin when the cycle ends or the rise in estrogen would be huge, possible gyno and acne flare up.

So you either need a low dose of aromasin than normal like quarter eod and then proviron on top to lower additional estrogen.
Orrr just use a higher dose of proviron but be extremely aware that stopping proviron within a day estrogen will go sky hi. This is my experience to date...

I wrote this out before but better and it all deleted itself fuck my life!
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I have that kind of sexual aggression naturally, maybe I shouldnt be using test....
 
Kal-el said:
I have that kind of sexual aggression naturally, maybe I shouldnt be using test....
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Nothing compares with the sexual aggression when ur on test, tren, dbol, caber maybe even masteron.
Even just tren n test.
No matter how great ur natty is. At least from my perception.
 
So iv come to realise you really do have to be careful with ur cabergoline use. Annnd you really can't run it year round.

You can get dopamine receptor down regulation, so slowly ur dopamine reduces. And when you go off caber it can be low for a while or you can get DAWS. dopamine agonist withdrawal syndrome.

Also I think maybe that's what triggered a lot of my anxiety and somehow fucked with my serotonin also. Leading to needing antidepressants.

I'm off anti d and caber now. Nurturing my dopamine with natural supplements. Without caber now I felt a little restless leg syndrome which is indicative of low dopamine. Ur legs move uncontrabblh when ur tired.

It pays to run caber in bursts. And have significant time off.
Not 6 plus month runs at .5 e3d with about 3 or 4 weeks off and reapeat for 3 years... So iv learned a lesson.
In future after a long break, it will be short bursts towards the end of tren runs.
 
harrywho said:
So iv come to realise you really do have to be careful with ur cabergoline use. Annnd you really can't run it year round.

You can get dopamine receptor down regulation, so slowly ur dopamine reduces. And when you go off caber it can be low for a while or you can get DAWS. dopamine agonist withdrawal syndrome.

Also I think maybe that's what triggered a lot of my anxiety and somehow fucked with my serotonin also. Leading to needing antidepressants.

I'm off anti d and caber now. Nurturing my dopamine with natural supplements. Without caber now I felt a little restless leg syndrome which is indicative of low dopamine. Ur legs move uncontrabblh when ur tired.

It pays to run caber in bursts. And have significant time off.
Not 6 plus month runs at .5 e3d with about 3 or 4 weeks off and reapeat for 3 years... So iv learned a lesson.
In future after a long break, it will be short bursts towards the end of tren runs.
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Credit where credit is due.

I'm glad you have grown and learned from your own personal experience

I can respect that you have acknowledged this
 
harrywho said:
So iv come to realise you really do have to be careful with ur cabergoline use. Annnd you really can't run it year round.

You can get dopamine receptor down regulation, so slowly ur dopamine reduces. And when you go off caber it can be low for a while or you can get DAWS. dopamine agonist withdrawal syndrome.

Also I think maybe that's what triggered a lot of my anxiety and somehow fucked with my serotonin also. Leading to needing antidepressants.

I'm off anti d and caber now. Nurturing my dopamine with natural supplements. Without caber now I felt a little restless leg syndrome which is indicative of low dopamine. Ur legs move uncontrabblh when ur tired.

It pays to run caber in bursts. And have significant time off.
Not 6 plus month runs at .5 e3d with about 3 or 4 weeks off and reapeat for 3 years... So iv learned a lesson.
In future after a long break, it will be short bursts towards the end of tren runs.
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What plat said.

I know what its like and im one of those people that has to trial waters, Been through seritonin issues as well and not fun at all.

But glad you finally realized.
 
Thappy said:
What plat said.

I know what its like and im one of those people that has to trial waters, Been through seritonin issues as well and not fun at all.

But glad you finally realized.
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It took a little while for harry to come round to the idea that the caber long term wasn't a great idea, but glad to see hes turned the corner. I honestly thought the turning point would have been a while back with the story about him and another bloke in a gay club on the dance floor but alas, here we are...

I always viewed caber as a have on hand but only use it when needed sort of thing, not a run as a prophylactic in conjunction with 19-nors.
 
harrywho said:
So iv come to realise you really do have to be careful with ur cabergoline use. Annnd you really can't run it year round.

You can get dopamine receptor down regulation, so slowly ur dopamine reduces. And when you go off caber it can be low for a while or you can get DAWS. dopamine agonist withdrawal syndrome.

Also I think maybe that's what triggered a lot of my anxiety and somehow fucked with my serotonin also. Leading to needing antidepressants.

I'm off anti d and caber now. Nurturing my dopamine with natural supplements. Without caber now I felt a little restless leg syndrome which is indicative of low dopamine. Ur legs move uncontrabblh when ur tired.

It pays to run caber in bursts. And have significant time off.
Not 6 plus month runs at .5 e3d with about 3 or 4 weeks off and reapeat for 3 years... So iv learned a lesson.
In future after a long break, it will be short bursts towards the end of tren runs.
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I don't want to do an "I told you so", but I will add (like I do every time that caber is brought up) that long tem cable use is detrimental to heart health, even though doses for prolactin control are lower than prescriptions for Parkinson's where the heart effects are most pronounced (1-6g a day).
Keeping in mind that we already take drugs that place stress on our cardiovascular system, some more so with other rec drugs, it really is worth keeping in mind.

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I mean 1-6mg a day not gram.
 
BjornB said:
I don't want to do an "I told you so", but I will add (like I do every time that caber is brought up) that long tem cable use is detrimental to heart health, even though doses for prolactin control are lower than prescriptions for Parkinson's where the heart effects are most pronounced (1-6g a day).
Keeping in mind that we already take drugs that place stress on our cardiovascular system, some more so with other rec drugs, it really is worth keeping in mind.

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I mean 1-6mg a day not gram.
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As most know i have huge cholesterol issues and my dr said my previous long term caber use could have had an impact
 
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