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Gruntwerkz
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Soooo 500mg twice a week? So a gram a week? That’s way more then enough brother. 500mg a week is plenty, you can even have good results from 350mg a week if your diet and training is good.
nothing will put on size and strength like the old school classic bulking cycle of test + deca + dbol -> http://www.evolutionary.org/testosterone-deca-durabolin-dbol-cycle
Do you care about bodyfat or just mass?
If its mass you could run Test + EQ or Deca like Trevor mentioned. Then stack Dbol or Tbol.
I ran my 500mg/week cycle of Test only and next cycle is going to be 250mg test/week + 500-600mg of primobolan a week. Will likely stack proviron with it the entire cycle.
You could also run Test with HGH as that would give you massive gains too. Could start the HGH for a month then run another 500mg test/week cycle for 10 weeks then run HG through your PCT.
If its mass you could run Test + EQ or Deca like Trevor mentioned. Then stack Dbol or Tbol.
I ran my 500mg/week cycle of Test only and next cycle is going to be 250mg test/week + 500-600mg of primobolan a week. Will likely stack proviron with it the entire cycle.
You could also run Test with HGH as that would give you massive gains too. Could start the HGH for a month then run another 500mg test/week cycle for 10 weeks then run HG through your PCT.
that HGH needs to be every day correct? I was doing that but turns out that the HGH wasnt real. I hated shooting everyday twice a day...
Twice a week for injections is enough.
Not entering any competitions but just want to look as good as I can...LOL
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When you say Test, does it matter which one?
Twice a week for injections is enough.
Not entering any competitions but just want to look as good as I can...LOL
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When you say Test, does it matter which one?
So you can run HGH once a day dosed in the morning on an empty stomach you dont need to split dose.
If you dont want to pin everyday then I get it. I personally would go with EQ or Primobolan added to a Test cycle but thats me.
For test I would run a longer ester like enanthate or cypionate and dose that with EQ or Primo twice a week.
Dosage would be 250mg Test/week and then 500-600mg Primo or EQ/week.
That would be a good stack to build muscle and not just have bulk gains.
Deca works great and is an optio too just more side effects than EQ or Primo.
Given that he is 47-years-old, I'll estimate his percentage of body fat to be somewhere between 25% and 30%, which places him in AAS-induced heart attack or stroke territory.
I'll also venture to guess that he has no idea as to how much fat he's lugging around.
Wait, isn't it better to stack with Dbol or Drol rather than Tbol?
Yes Dbol would be better if just trying to add mass.
Dbol though aromatizes where Tbol doesnt so if gyno is an issue Tbol is better.
I just like Tbol better than Dbol. Dbol will puffy you up since its wet and then stacked with test (a wet compound as well) you will add tons of mass.
Having said that the OP is 5'7" 200 pounds. I just dont see the point of adding test + Deca + dbol when hes already a big guy as its going to be a hell of a lot of water weight.
This is why I would run Test + EQ but thats just me and I like Tbol due to the fewer side effects but correct if mass is the goal then Dbol is better.
Right. I should have been clearer. I meant Anadrol rather than Tbol.
I've tried Tbol, didn't get a lot of size from it, but my strength increased. I'm thinking of trying Drol during my next cycle probably in February or March to put on some size before summer comes.
Oh yea Anadrol is a mass builder too very harsh though on the liver so I wouldnt take much longer than 4-6 weeks with a liver support.
Its super anabolic so yea stacked with Test + Deca/EQ/etc would be a mass builder for sure.
You're good...
The short story...I lost 80lbs of fat. Since then I have been hitting the gym 5 days a week. Weight training and 45min of cardio. i know this inst enough but do understand. Life changes take time.
I am 47 years old. Married, two kids. Not entering any competitions...obviously.
Just trying to be as fit as I can.
I felt great on the sus250. Joints didn't hurt. Recovery time was great. Energy was great. Just looking for some advice to SAFELY add muscle and like stevesmi pointed out trim a little.
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WRONG but thanks for the advice....
The short story...I lost 80lbs of fat. Since then I have been hitting the gym 5 days a week. Weight training and 45min of cardio. i know this inst enough but do understand. Life changes take time.
I am 47 years old. Married, two kids. Not entering any competitions...obviously.
Just trying to be as fit as I can.
I felt great on the sus250. Joints didn't hurt. Recovery time was great. Energy was great. Just looking for some advice to SAFELY add muscle and like stevesmi pointed out trim a little.
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WRONG but thanks for the advice....
Yea so if looking to trim fat with muscle growth and feel good why not just get some Hgh from juvetrope or PSL and run for 4 months?
Daily pinning sucks but once you factor in AAS and all the on cycle and post cycle ancillaries cost is about the same.
I’m a large dude too (6’9” 270+ pounds) and this is why I’m running test with primobolan and most likely proviron. Make strength gains and keep body fat gain minimal.
I also run cardarine almost yea round for its endurance benefits which aids fat loss.
Do you just take 10mg twice a day?
It has a 24 hour half life so I take it justbin the morning the full 20mg
But this is also why I mention HGH as Cardarine from Sarms1 isnt cheap. With the discount code it comes to like $135 per 60 10mg capsules so that is one a 1 month supply.
You can get Somatropin HGH from PSL for under $200 a 100IU kit (its as cheap as $155 per 100IU kit if you buy 10 in bulk) and I think the HGH will do more for you honestly but again need to refridgerate, pin daily, etc.
I love cardarine dont get me wrong but I use it with other compounds.
Another option is CJC w DAC. PSL has it and you can dose once a week and it will also cause a significant rise in IGF levels similar to HGH. If you get 10 vials each vial lasts about a week and comes to $250 so 2.5 months for $250 is a good deal too.
Final option would be nutrabol. Sarms1 has it also a great compound that gives you about 85%+ of what HGH does but its about $180 per 60 25mg capsules and you only need 1 a day so $180 for 2 months and will also give a significant spike in IGF levels.
It all comes down to convenience to be honest and what your ultimate goal is.
Gruntwerkz
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I would second the vote for nutrobal, if you search around a little and do some research it can be found cheap in bulk.
I’ve been on it for 8 weeks now and will continue for another 3-4 months minimum. It’s done wonders with my shoulder and tendons.
Hollywood305
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Do you get crazy dreams on the MK?
Gruntwerkz
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I did the first month or so, they’ve calmed down a little bit now.
It’s really vivid dreams, big time.
Oh by the way I missed all the election shit lol, and you’ll have an email incoming a little later with some info you asked about.
Satan62
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My favorite bulking cycle! Don’t do that too often but I do like to add every once in a while.
47 years old, 5'7", 200lbs......I applaud you sir! That is fantastic.
If test worked well for you in the past why not run the same thing this time? I would go with a much lower dose though. 400-500mg per week is plenty.
If test worked well for you in the past why not run the same thing this time? I would go with a much lower dose though. 400-500mg per week is plenty.
Hollywood305
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Oh ok teddy Broski! Can't wait...good times
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