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Now that I'm in my 40's my libido is not what it used to be. I've been on TRT for several years which has helped, but it seems that my body and gotten used to the test and libido has been steadily declining. I recently added proviron, which has helped as well, but I'm always looking for ways to keep libido up. I've been reading about Caber, but it seems most guys take it with deca or tren so they can avoid deca dick. the question I have is do you think Caber will help with libido issues? do you suggest I try it even if I'm not currently using tren or deca? Is Caber something you can take indefinately or do you need to take breaks like you do with Proviron? much respect.
Gruntwerkz
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Okay so let’s just correct one thing so there’s so misinformation.
Deca dick is not caused by increased prolactin, it’s because deca is a progesterone steroid that binds to the DHT receptor. The way to fix this is by using proviron well on deca, also keep in mind deca does not directly raise prolactin but can raise progesterone - controlling e2 is your first line of defense.
Tren can raise prolactin directly in large doses, but again controlling e2 is necessary as well.
Anyway if your prolactin levels are within a healthy range then that shouldn’t be causing you libido issues, but since prolactin isn’t necessary for men you can try running caber just for fun and see if it helps. For me I do experience a more intense orgasm on it but it doesn’t raise my libido much.
Also keep in mind you can’t just keep adding drugs to raise libido, like proviron - this drug shouldn’t be ran permanently with TRT it should be cycled.
Maybe you need to change your sex life around or something, this may help indirectly increase libido as you can’t keep searching for more drugs.
gashred777
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Nismo99
Active member
Gruntwerks is on a roll with some solid advice. Cheers!
No. That's perfectly natural and normal. What you had when you're 21 isn't what you have when you're 40, 60 or 80.
Very well stated and 100% factual, Gruntwerkz.
It should also be noted, as Grunt alluded to, that cabergoline does not address libido per se. What it does do is that it counters the effect of the naturally-occuring chemical in our bodies known as prolactin. Prolactin is that which temporarily inhibits a man's ability to gain another erection in the immediate aftermath of an orgasm; a relatively brief period of time known as "the refractory period." So think of prolactin as nature's population inhibitor without which men would be eternally horny and the earth's human population would quickly breed itself out of existence.
Cabergoline serves to greatly reduce the length of the refractory period, thereby allowing a man to gain another erection much sooner than he would have without the benefit of cabergoline. This is the reason why cabergoline is gaining increasing popularity within the porn' industry as well as within the general population as a recreational sex aide.
Gruntwerkz has already covered the way in which cabergoline benefits bodybuilders with respect to bodybuilding.
you just saved all of us time from responding... this answer covers it all
Gruntwerkz
New member
Thanks fellas! Let’s just hope he comes back and follows up on his questions, answers and research.
@stevesmi I agree, evo does have a good information base and many informative members willing to share. There is a plethora of information here, shared lab work and all.
That is always the hope...…...that the OP actually comes back, reads, and follows up. Thanks for helping dudes out Grunt. You are a core member of the forum.
Gruntwerkz
New member
Appreciate the kind words brother, I do my best to help whenever people have a question. I try to only speak on what I know, what’s facts and what I’ve learned in my own experience versus just repeating things I’ve read.
Even if the OP never comes back google will end up pulling this thread some day when someone searches, and this is how misinformation spreads.
The whole deca dick and prolactin is no different, someone many years ago just randomly wrote its due to increased prolactin because that’s what they thought. It some how got continually repeated until it became a bro science fact.
More people need to read the basics of Pharmacology and how these drugs work a little more and not on a bodybuilding site.
Something I've said when an OP doesn't get the answer they want but have been told the truth is to point out that other non-posting members will benefit from truthful replies.
Very good point. All we can do is to continue to help people and stop as much of the common misinformation as possible.
I also think that doing whatever we are able to do as individuals to urge the repeal of the Steroid Control Act of 2004 would go along way towards countering the misinformation that is the inevitable result of the bro "science" we are often compelled to rely upon precisely because of this wholly illogical prohibition. Repealing the Steroid Control Act of 2004 would serve the purpose of reinserting healthcare professionals into the lives of AAS users, thereby removing much of the guesswork surrounding these compounds.
