Approved Log 50yo Body Recomp - Testosterone Equipoise Primobolan cycle - R&Dpharma and Liquid Gold Labs

[Jeez3000]

Hi all,
I have decided to start that log more for my own accountability than anything, but if my experience can help anyone, or any advices can be given to me, that'd be awesome!

About me:
50 yo this year, been training for 35 years, non stop.
Did 1 comp, the first Men's Physique comp in Australia with IFBB in 2013. Absolutely 100% natural. Experienced the strictest diet in my life and finally realised the flower of food my Physique... It just took me 20 years to realise... me here at 92kg for 186cm, 12 years ago. Told by a judge I was too lean for Physique, and too small for Bbuilding... lol, well, thanks.

Few weeks out I decided to try my first cycle and went for 12 weeks on Test (500mg) + Equ (350mg), stopped for 6 months then back again on Test (500mg) + Tren (300mg)...
I ended up gaining 10kg and topped at 105kg, good strength gains... I tested many different diets: Cyclic Keto for 12 months, intermittent fasting, high carbs, low carbs carnivore... And now I know my body need high meat, medium carbs, low fats to work at its best...

Losing my businesses during Covid (fitness industry), I got into some dark places and decided to try a proper TRT to get some drive back... Cruising with 145mg/week of Test 2 and 3mg Arimidex/week for 3 years: I would keep my Fat% under 12% year round, trained well, and felt good, weight sitting around 95kg ...

After 3 years off anything, I m now at 98kg with a 15% bf, and a drive not so driven... Strength is still here, but strength resistance has declined a but and my joints are killing me.

So this week I have started a new boost cycle with the following plan:

With gear sourced with @R&Dpharma :
Test E 200mg X 4 weeks
Test E 400mg + Equip 300mg X 10 weeks
Then
With gear sourced with @Liquid Gold Labs :
Test E 250mg + Primo 200mg X 12 weeks

Then repeat this once, and then go on 200mg Test E only for years.

Arimidex will be added according to blood work results.

Calories intake: TD 2900 calories
NTD: 2400 Calories
3 meals with 2 different meats, 2 snacks (protein powder, dairy).

Let's where it takes me...

 

[Pigsy]

Welcome to Logging fellow Aussie 50+ bodybuilder

 

[Capsule Corp Rep]

Brother amazing log so far welcome to the evo family. Myself, @Liquid Gold Labs and the team welcome you.
You have an impressive physique already. Cant wait to see how this log progresses

 

[LevButlerov]

Hi all,
I have decided to start that log more for my own accountability than anything, but if my experience can help anyone, or any advices can be given to me, that'd be awesome!

About me:
50 yo this year, been training for 35 years, non stop.
Did 1 comp, the first Men's Physique comp in Australia with IFBB in 2013. Absolutely 100% natural. Experienced the strictest diet in my life and finally realised the flower of food my Physique... It just took me 20 years to realise... me here at 92kg for 186cm, 12 years ago. Told by a judge I was too lean for Physique, and too small for Bbuilding... lol, well, thanks.
View attachment 103366View attachment 103370

Few weeks out I decided to try my first cycle and went for 12 weeks on Test (500mg) + Equ (350mg), stopped for 6 months then back again on Test (500mg) + Tren (300mg)...
I ended up gaining 10kg and topped at 105kg, good strength gains... I tested many different diets: Cyclic Keto for 12 months, intermittent fasting, high carbs, low carbs carnivore... And now I know my body need high meat, medium carbs, low fats to work at its best...
View attachment 103367

Losing my businesses during Covid (fitness industry), I got into some dark places and decided to try a proper TRT to get some drive back... Cruising with 145mg/week of Test 2 and 3mg Arimidex/week for 3 years: I would keep my Fat% under 12% year round, trained well, and felt good, weight sitting around 95kg ...
View attachment 103368
After 3 years off anything, I m now at 98kg with a 15% bf, and a drive not so driven... Strength is still here, but strength resistance has declined a but and my joints are killing me.
View attachment 103369

So this week I have started a new boost cycle with the following plan:

With gear sourced with @R&Dpharma :
Test E 200mg X 4 weeks
Test E 400mg + Equip 300mg X 10 weeks
Then
With gear sourced with @Liquid Gold Labs :
Test E 250mg + Primo 200mg X 12 weeks

Then repeat this once, and then go on 200mg Test E only for years.

Arimidex will be added according to blood work results.

Calories intake: TD 2900 calories
NTD: 2400 Calories
3 meals with 2 different meats, 2 snacks (protein powder, dairy).

Let's where it takes me...

@Jeez3000 welcome to the EVO family another oldschool brother is in the house. You are smart to work with @R&Dpharma and @Liquid Gold Labs really top teams in the EVO family here. And I respect you for trying to change your life at 50, not easy but you're doing it.

Do you have a coach for this cycle?

Please share more day to day information with us.

Diet, Training, Cardio
Diet, please share foods and meals and when you eat them, macros would be good
Training, please share actual exercises reps sets and weights, as you go especially get stronger
cardio how much do you do? when etc
If you don't log what you eat or train now, open NOTES on phone and start recording it there and paste here. Very easy.

supplements
what digestive supps you use?
digestive enzymes?
multis?
probiotics?
psyllium husk?

pictures
please share pictures of you face blurred (every 1-2 weeks)
pics of your meals as you go
pics of your training as you go
pics of your supps
pics of your gear

eBooks
download our eBooks and learn more about cycling:
https://irongorillas.com

Podcast
are you listening to our podcast? if not, you should:
https://www.evolutionary.org/podcasts/
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/evolutionary-bodybuilding-radio/id1798623410
https://open.spotify.com/show/53q1RFTgG4h6TQHsJ4xY6Z

thank you and share more

 

[stevesmi]

this is awesome man. you had an amazing journey. all this stuff you been through is an experience that made you who you are today! love this ! @Jeez3000

 

[Mobster]

We ALL should hold ourselves accountable as a means of getting the best from ourselves

 

[ceo]

Hi all,
I have decided to start that log more for my own accountability than anything, but if my experience can help anyone, or any advices can be given to me, that'd be awesome!

About me:
50 yo this year, been training for 35 years, non stop.
Did 1 comp, the first Men's Physique comp in Australia with IFBB in 2013. Absolutely 100% natural. Experienced the strictest diet in my life and finally realised the flower of food my Physique... It just took me 20 years to realise... me here at 92kg for 186cm, 12 years ago. Told by a judge I was too lean for Physique, and too small for Bbuilding... lol, well, thanks.
View attachment 103366View attachment 103370

Few weeks out I decided to try my first cycle and went for 12 weeks on Test (500mg) + Equ (350mg), stopped for 6 months then back again on Test (500mg) + Tren (300mg)...
I ended up gaining 10kg and topped at 105kg, good strength gains... I tested many different diets: Cyclic Keto for 12 months, intermittent fasting, high carbs, low carbs carnivore... And now I know my body need high meat, medium carbs, low fats to work at its best...
View attachment 103367

Losing my businesses during Covid (fitness industry), I got into some dark places and decided to try a proper TRT to get some drive back... Cruising with 145mg/week of Test 2 and 3mg Arimidex/week for 3 years: I would keep my Fat% under 12% year round, trained well, and felt good, weight sitting around 95kg ...
View attachment 103368
After 3 years off anything, I m now at 98kg with a 15% bf, and a drive not so driven... Strength is still here, but strength resistance has declined a but and my joints are killing me.
View attachment 103369

So this week I have started a new boost cycle with the following plan:

With gear sourced with @R&Dpharma :
Test E 200mg X 4 weeks
Test E 400mg + Equip 300mg X 10 weeks
Then
With gear sourced with @Liquid Gold Labs :
Test E 250mg + Primo 200mg X 12 weeks

Then repeat this once, and then go on 200mg Test E only for years.

Arimidex will be added according to blood work results.

Calories intake: TD 2900 calories
NTD: 2400 Calories
3 meals with 2 different meats, 2 snacks (protein powder, dairy).

Let's where it takes me...

@Jeez3000 bros this one looks good! i like the test and EQ option then switching to primo. gonna be a fun one to follow

 

[ROIDDERS]

Hi all,
I have decided to start that log more for my own accountability than anything, but if my experience can help anyone, or any advices can be given to me, that'd be awesome!

About me:
50 yo this year, been training for 35 years, non stop.
Did 1 comp, the first Men's Physique comp in Australia with IFBB in 2013. Absolutely 100% natural. Experienced the strictest diet in my life and finally realised the flower of food my Physique... It just took me 20 years to realise... me here at 92kg for 186cm, 12 years ago. Told by a judge I was too lean for Physique, and too small for Bbuilding... lol, well, thanks.
View attachment 103366View attachment 103370

Few weeks out I decided to try my first cycle and went for 12 weeks on Test (500mg) + Equ (350mg), stopped for 6 months then back again on Test (500mg) + Tren (300mg)...
I ended up gaining 10kg and topped at 105kg, good strength gains... I tested many different diets: Cyclic Keto for 12 months, intermittent fasting, high carbs, low carbs carnivore... And now I know my body need high meat, medium carbs, low fats to work at its best...
View attachment 103367

Losing my businesses during Covid (fitness industry), I got into some dark places and decided to try a proper TRT to get some drive back... Cruising with 145mg/week of Test 2 and 3mg Arimidex/week for 3 years: I would keep my Fat% under 12% year round, trained well, and felt good, weight sitting around 95kg ...
View attachment 103368
After 3 years off anything, I m now at 98kg with a 15% bf, and a drive not so driven... Strength is still here, but strength resistance has declined a but and my joints are killing me.
View attachment 103369

So this week I have started a new boost cycle with the following plan:

With gear sourced with @R&Dpharma :
Test E 200mg X 4 weeks
Test E 400mg + Equip 300mg X 10 weeks
Then
With gear sourced with @Liquid Gold Labs :
Test E 250mg + Primo 200mg X 12 weeks

Then repeat this once, and then go on 200mg Test E only for years.

Arimidex will be added according to blood work results.

Calories intake: TD 2900 calories
NTD: 2400 Calories
3 meals with 2 different meats, 2 snacks (protein powder, dairy).

Let's where it takes me...

@Jeez3000 you look very well rounded man. good handle on your fitness. pushing some good size and strength i love this !

 

[BodyMonster34]

Hi all,
I have decided to start that log more for my own accountability than anything, but if my experience can help anyone, or any advices can be given to me, that'd be awesome!

About me:
50 yo this year, been training for 35 years, non stop.
Did 1 comp, the first Men's Physique comp in Australia with IFBB in 2013. Absolutely 100% natural. Experienced the strictest diet in my life and finally realised the flower of food my Physique... It just took me 20 years to realise... me here at 92kg for 186cm, 12 years ago. Told by a judge I was too lean for Physique, and too small for Bbuilding... lol, well, thanks.
View attachment 103366View attachment 103370

Few weeks out I decided to try my first cycle and went for 12 weeks on Test (500mg) + Equ (350mg), stopped for 6 months then back again on Test (500mg) + Tren (300mg)...
I ended up gaining 10kg and topped at 105kg, good strength gains... I tested many different diets: Cyclic Keto for 12 months, intermittent fasting, high carbs, low carbs carnivore... And now I know my body need high meat, medium carbs, low fats to work at its best...
View attachment 103367

Losing my businesses during Covid (fitness industry), I got into some dark places and decided to try a proper TRT to get some drive back... Cruising with 145mg/week of Test 2 and 3mg Arimidex/week for 3 years: I would keep my Fat% under 12% year round, trained well, and felt good, weight sitting around 95kg ...
View attachment 103368
After 3 years off anything, I m now at 98kg with a 15% bf, and a drive not so driven... Strength is still here, but strength resistance has declined a but and my joints are killing me.
View attachment 103369

So this week I have started a new boost cycle with the following plan:

With gear sourced with @R&Dpharma :
Test E 200mg X 4 weeks
Test E 400mg + Equip 300mg X 10 weeks
Then
With gear sourced with @Liquid Gold Labs :
Test E 250mg + Primo 200mg X 12 weeks

Then repeat this once, and then go on 200mg Test E only for years.

Arimidex will be added according to blood work results.

Calories intake: TD 2900 calories
NTD: 2400 Calories
3 meals with 2 different meats, 2 snacks (protein powder, dairy).

Let's where it takes me...

@Jeez3000

bro you look like a texas stud if you ask me. i like it. question is why not tren? don't tell me primo it sucks

 

[2Thick]

Hi all,
I have decided to start that log more for my own accountability than anything, but if my experience can help anyone, or any advices can be given to me, that'd be awesome!

About me:
50 yo this year, been training for 35 years, non stop.
Did 1 comp, the first Men's Physique comp in Australia with IFBB in 2013. Absolutely 100% natural. Experienced the strictest diet in my life and finally realised the flower of food my Physique... It just took me 20 years to realise... me here at 92kg for 186cm, 12 years ago. Told by a judge I was too lean for Physique, and too small for Bbuilding... lol, well, thanks.
View attachment 103366View attachment 103370

Few weeks out I decided to try my first cycle and went for 12 weeks on Test (500mg) + Equ (350mg), stopped for 6 months then back again on Test (500mg) + Tren (300mg)...
I ended up gaining 10kg and topped at 105kg, good strength gains... I tested many different diets: Cyclic Keto for 12 months, intermittent fasting, high carbs, low carbs carnivore... And now I know my body need high meat, medium carbs, low fats to work at its best...
View attachment 103367

Losing my businesses during Covid (fitness industry), I got into some dark places and decided to try a proper TRT to get some drive back... Cruising with 145mg/week of Test 2 and 3mg Arimidex/week for 3 years: I would keep my Fat% under 12% year round, trained well, and felt good, weight sitting around 95kg ...
View attachment 103368
After 3 years off anything, I m now at 98kg with a 15% bf, and a drive not so driven... Strength is still here, but strength resistance has declined a but and my joints are killing me.
View attachment 103369

So this week I have started a new boost cycle with the following plan:

With gear sourced with @R&Dpharma :
Test E 200mg X 4 weeks
Test E 400mg + Equip 300mg X 10 weeks
Then
With gear sourced with @Liquid Gold Labs :
Test E 250mg + Primo 200mg X 12 weeks

Then repeat this once, and then go on 200mg Test E only for years.

Arimidex will be added according to blood work results.

Calories intake: TD 2900 calories
NTD: 2400 Calories
3 meals with 2 different meats, 2 snacks (protein powder, dairy).

Let's where it takes me...

200mgs a week of test E is a high dose for trt. you need to be aware of that. don't push your luck too much @Jeez3000

 

[Ulter]

Hi all,
I have decided to start that log more for my own accountability than anything, but if my experience can help anyone, or any advices can be given to me, that'd be awesome!

About me:
50 yo this year, been training for 35 years, non stop.
Did 1 comp, the first Men's Physique comp in Australia with IFBB in 2013. Absolutely 100% natural. Experienced the strictest diet in my life and finally realised the flower of food my Physique... It just took me 20 years to realise... me here at 92kg for 186cm, 12 years ago. Told by a judge I was too lean for Physique, and too small for Bbuilding... lol, well, thanks.
View attachment 103366View attachment 103370

Few weeks out I decided to try my first cycle and went for 12 weeks on Test (500mg) + Equ (350mg), stopped for 6 months then back again on Test (500mg) + Tren (300mg)...
I ended up gaining 10kg and topped at 105kg, good strength gains... I tested many different diets: Cyclic Keto for 12 months, intermittent fasting, high carbs, low carbs carnivore... And now I know my body need high meat, medium carbs, low fats to work at its best...
View attachment 103367

Losing my businesses during Covid (fitness industry), I got into some dark places and decided to try a proper TRT to get some drive back... Cruising with 145mg/week of Test 2 and 3mg Arimidex/week for 3 years: I would keep my Fat% under 12% year round, trained well, and felt good, weight sitting around 95kg ...
View attachment 103368
After 3 years off anything, I m now at 98kg with a 15% bf, and a drive not so driven... Strength is still here, but strength resistance has declined a but and my joints are killing me.
View attachment 103369

So this week I have started a new boost cycle with the following plan:

With gear sourced with @R&Dpharma :
Test E 200mg X 4 weeks
Test E 400mg + Equip 300mg X 10 weeks
Then
With gear sourced with @Liquid Gold Labs :
Test E 250mg + Primo 200mg X 12 weeks

Then repeat this once, and then go on 200mg Test E only for years.

Arimidex will be added according to blood work results.

Calories intake: TD 2900 calories
NTD: 2400 Calories
3 meals with 2 different meats, 2 snacks (protein powder, dairy).

Let's where it takes me...

@Jeez3000 yet another amazing job on this man! proud of you as always. i ove the setup with test and EQ and test primo. should get some moderate gains

 

[Jeez3000]

Thanks guys, appreciate the supportive and positive comments.

Regarding Tren, I did a cycle and wasn't really enjoying it. Very subjective but I felt it was very draining my metabolism and a bit toxic. EQ and Primo are much better tolerated and my goal is not Bbuilding comp size and conditioning, but a bit more shoulders and arms volume, better overall definition, and increased strenght. I do a few other sports where gaining over 100kg becomes a pain in the ass... Aiming for a strong athletic ohysique, and sustainable.

Regarding TRT, I was on 145mg/week for years, followed by a gp and was very well tolerated, my bloods were super healthy. Except creatinine, always been very high, on or off gear. I said 200mg but will certainly lower.
I have a condition that is minimised if I can stay over 700 free test, so I ll adapt the TRT dosage to stay around 800/900. My TRT was done with pharmaceutical test e, so I will see how ugl test potency compares...

 

[RoySimpson]

Hi all,
I have decided to start that log more for my own accountability than anything, but if my experience can help anyone, or any advices can be given to me, that'd be awesome!

About me:
50 yo this year, been training for 35 years, non stop.
Did 1 comp, the first Men's Physique comp in Australia with IFBB in 2013. Absolutely 100% natural. Experienced the strictest diet in my life and finally realised the flower of food my Physique... It just took me 20 years to realise... me here at 92kg for 186cm, 12 years ago. Told by a judge I was too lean for Physique, and too small for Bbuilding... lol, well, thanks.
View attachment 103366View attachment 103370

Few weeks out I decided to try my first cycle and went for 12 weeks on Test (500mg) + Equ (350mg), stopped for 6 months then back again on Test (500mg) + Tren (300mg)...
I ended up gaining 10kg and topped at 105kg, good strength gains... I tested many different diets: Cyclic Keto for 12 months, intermittent fasting, high carbs, low carbs carnivore... And now I know my body need high meat, medium carbs, low fats to work at its best...
View attachment 103367

Losing my businesses during Covid (fitness industry), I got into some dark places and decided to try a proper TRT to get some drive back... Cruising with 145mg/week of Test 2 and 3mg Arimidex/week for 3 years: I would keep my Fat% under 12% year round, trained well, and felt good, weight sitting around 95kg ...
View attachment 103368
After 3 years off anything, I m now at 98kg with a 15% bf, and a drive not so driven... Strength is still here, but strength resistance has declined a but and my joints are killing me.
View attachment 103369

So this week I have started a new boost cycle with the following plan:

With gear sourced with @R&Dpharma :
Test E 200mg X 4 weeks
Test E 400mg + Equip 300mg X 10 weeks
Then
With gear sourced with @Liquid Gold Labs :
Test E 250mg + Primo 200mg X 12 weeks

Then repeat this once, and then go on 200mg Test E only for years.

Arimidex will be added according to blood work results.

Calories intake: TD 2900 calories
NTD: 2400 Calories
3 meals with 2 different meats, 2 snacks (protein powder, dairy).

Let's where it takes me...

@Jeez3000 looking great bro will be good to follow the journey!

 

[Npcclassicphysique champ]

Thanks guys, appreciate the supportive and positive comments.

Regarding Tren, I did a cycle and wasn't really enjoying it. Very subjective but I felt it was very draining my metabolism and a bit toxic. EQ and Primo are much better tolerated and my goal is not Bbuilding comp size and conditioning, but a bit more shoulders and arms volume, better overall definition, and increased strenght. I do a few other sports where gaining over 100kg becomes a pain in the ass... Aiming for a strong athletic ohysique, and sustainable.

Regarding TRT, I was on 145mg/week for years, followed by a gp and was very well tolerated, my bloods were super healthy. Except creatinine, always been very high, on or off gear. I said 200mg but will certainly lower.
I have a condition that is minimised if I can stay over 700 free test, so I ll adapt the TRT dosage to stay around 800/900. My TRT was done with pharmaceutical test e, so I will see how ugl test potency compares...

i dont think you ever need tren, stick to whats working

 

[ballin2504]

Hi all,
I have decided to start that log more for my own accountability than anything, but if my experience can help anyone, or any advices can be given to me, that'd be awesome!

About me:
50 yo this year, been training for 35 years, non stop.
Did 1 comp, the first Men's Physique comp in Australia with IFBB in 2013. Absolutely 100% natural. Experienced the strictest diet in my life and finally realised the flower of food my Physique... It just took me 20 years to realise... me here at 92kg for 186cm, 12 years ago. Told by a judge I was too lean for Physique, and too small for Bbuilding... lol, well, thanks.
View attachment 103366View attachment 103370

Few weeks out I decided to try my first cycle and went for 12 weeks on Test (500mg) + Equ (350mg), stopped for 6 months then back again on Test (500mg) + Tren (300mg)...
I ended up gaining 10kg and topped at 105kg, good strength gains... I tested many different diets: Cyclic Keto for 12 months, intermittent fasting, high carbs, low carbs carnivore... And now I know my body need high meat, medium carbs, low fats to work at its best...
View attachment 103367

Losing my businesses during Covid (fitness industry), I got into some dark places and decided to try a proper TRT to get some drive back... Cruising with 145mg/week of Test 2 and 3mg Arimidex/week for 3 years: I would keep my Fat% under 12% year round, trained well, and felt good, weight sitting around 95kg ...
View attachment 103368
After 3 years off anything, I m now at 98kg with a 15% bf, and a drive not so driven... Strength is still here, but strength resistance has declined a but and my joints are killing me.
View attachment 103369

So this week I have started a new boost cycle with the following plan:

With gear sourced with @R&Dpharma :
Test E 200mg X 4 weeks
Test E 400mg + Equip 300mg X 10 weeks
Then
With gear sourced with @Liquid Gold Labs :
Test E 250mg + Primo 200mg X 12 weeks

Then repeat this once, and then go on 200mg Test E only for years.

Arimidex will be added according to blood work results.

Calories intake: TD 2900 calories
NTD: 2400 Calories
3 meals with 2 different meats, 2 snacks (protein powder, dairy).

Let's where it takes me...

@Jeez3000 nice start to the log man. Really like your history and you have a great physique.

 

[Jeez3000]

Adding my supps: on a daily basis:

Morning on empty stomach:
Glutathione (500mg)
Fish oil (3000mg)
VitD (5000 ui)
NAC (3g)
Bcaa (10g)
Milk Thistle
WPI (40g)

Mid day or post workout:
WPI (40g)

Bed time:
ZMA

I have just done my first 2 pins. Being Test E I didn't expect much change week#1, but placebo being what it is, my training were feeling very very good ;-).

Only bad experience is the 2nd pin gave me a solid PIP I had never experienced before :-/
Will try to warm a bit more the vial before pining tomorrow.

 

[Tiger Salman Khan]

Adding my supps: on a daily basis:

Morning on empty stomach:
Glutathione (500mg)
Fish oil (3000mg)
VitD (5000 ui)
NAC (3g)
Bcaa (10g)
Milk Thistle
WPI (40g)

Mid day or post workout:
WPI (40g)

Bed time:
ZMA

I have just done my first 2 pins. Being Test E I didn't expect much change week#1, but placebo being what it is, my training were feeling very very good ;-).

Only bad experience is the 2nd pin gave me a solid PIP I had never experienced before :-/
Will try to warm a bit more the vial before pining tomorrow.

@Jeez3000 Great updates bro........

 

[Pigsy]

Adding my supps: on a daily basis:

Morning on empty stomach:
Glutathione (500mg)
Fish oil (3000mg)
VitD (5000 ui)
NAC (3g)
Bcaa (10g)
Milk Thistle
WPI (40g)

Mid day or post workout:
WPI (40g)

Bed time:
ZMA

I have just done my first 2 pins. Being Test E I didn't expect much change week#1, but placebo being what it is, my training were feeling very very good ;-).

Only bad experience is the 2nd pin gave me a solid PIP I had never experienced before :-/
Will try to warm a bit more the vial before pining tomorrow.

I always warm mine up with a hair-dryer. Makes things so much smoother

 

[LevButlerov]

Adding my supps: on a daily basis:

Morning on empty stomach:
Glutathione (500mg)
Fish oil (3000mg)
VitD (5000 ui)
NAC (3g)
Bcaa (10g)
Milk Thistle
WPI (40g)

Mid day or post workout:
WPI (40g)

Bed time:
ZMA

I have just done my first 2 pins. Being Test E I didn't expect much change week#1, but placebo being what it is, my training were feeling very very good ;-).

Only bad experience is the 2nd pin gave me a solid PIP I had never experienced before :-/
Will try to warm a bit more the vial before pining tomorrow.

the pip you have swelling? @Jeez3000

 

[Jeez3000]

Yep, did a nice bump on my butt cheek... still there 3 days later...

 

[Jeez3000]

the pip you have swelling? @Jeez3000

Did you experience the same?

 

[LevButlerov]

Did you experience the same?

I followed up on your PIP question here today @Jeez3000 check
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/r-d-pharma.103543/post-1788650

@Jeez3000 whether it's from @R&Dpharma or any other supplier, T400 is going to have PIP, no matter what they do. It's a fact of having such a high concentration per mg. The best way to get around the pip is to micro dose 0.1ml to 0.2ml and heat up the vial before use.

 

[Jeez3000]

Thanks mate. Makes sense, I never had Test over 300mg before... @R&Dpharma recommended to mix with Eq and I will do that a bit earlier than planned. If I still have pip then I ll move to the @Liquid Gold Labs Test e 250, I have both in stock.

 

[LevButlerov]

Thanks mate. Makes sense, I never had Test over 300mg before... @R&Dpharma recommended to mix with Eq and I will do that a bit earlier than planned. If I still have pip then I ll move to the @Liquid Gold Labs Test e 250, I have both in stock.

EQ is always a good add.

 

[25homes]

Lookin solid Bru

 

[Jeez3000]

Well, thanks guys... I added my Eq a bit earlier and 0.25 T400 + 0.25 Eq300 went smooth as and no pip...

 

[Npcclassicphysique champ]

Well, thanks guys... I added my Eq a bit earlier and 0.25 T400 + 0.25 Eq300 went smooth as and no pip...

no pip is perfect broly @Jeez3000 didnt you post about this in another thread too? on AU sub