Approved Log 2025 Cycle Log - Body Recomp Journal

[texas.redneck]

Listen can you stop giving me chatgpt copy and paste, that's an ai it's not a person. It doesn't have any steroid experience, @texas.redneck its just a computer.
And its all wrong on the advice and dangerous.
You don't need key ingredients, you need total of the 40 ingredients to get to where you want to go.

Oh it’s 100% accurate on that. I’ve been loading it with my supplements for about a year now. It helps me keep track of them and make my schedule for when I take them - morning, breakfast, dinner, and before bed.
It’s not hard to just screenshot n2guard ingredients and have ChatGPT compare. Sorry I’m just not into the n2guard, but you keep wanting to push it on me for some reason. I think it’s a rip off. These anabolic forums have been pushing n2guard on us for years. I get that they are probably a sponsor but I am tired of hearing about N2guard.

Edit: Explain why I need 40 ingredients?

 

[25homes]

Good progress

 

[LevButlerov]

Oh it’s 100% accurate on that. I’ve been loading it with my supplements for about a year now. It helps me keep track of them and make my schedule for when I take them - morning, breakfast, dinner, and before bed.
It’s not hard to just screenshot n2guard ingredients and have ChatGPT compare. Sorry I’m just not into the n2guard, but you keep wanting to push it on me for some reason. I think it’s a rip off. These anabolic forums have been pushing n2guard on us for years. I get that they are probably a sponsor but I am tired of hearing about N2guard.

Edit: Explain why I need 40 ingredients?

Listen you can do what you wish, but getting ai advice is not good, ai is just reading other peoples info and telling you their views. You know how many badly educated views on the market?
You know how many people in the hospital because they listened to chatgpt? a LOT! @texas.redneck
here is an example
https://www.ndtv.com/feature/60-yea...following-chatgpt-generated-diet-plan-9067151

You're saying ai knows more than guys that actually injected steroids, trainers with 20-30-40 years of experience and stage work, come on.

 

[LevButlerov]

It’s because that’s the longest I’m comfortable with! I’m not on TRT and I don’t plan to ever be, so 12 weeks is the longest I want to surpress my natural testosterone before bringing it back. 12 weeks once a year and I’m good. I just like to have my fun. Why is this so unusual now a days? 12 weeks used to be fairly standard I thought. Maybe things have changed.

Again that's fine, but where did you get the 12 week number? I'm not sure where this info comes from. Is this chatgpt again?

 

[texas.redneck]

Listen you can do what you wish, but getting ai advice is not good, ai is just reading other peoples info and telling you their views. You know how many badly educated views on the market?
You know how many people in the hospital because they listened to chatgpt? a LOT! @texas.redneck
here is an example
https://www.ndtv.com/feature/60-yea...following-chatgpt-generated-diet-plan-9067151

You're saying ai knows more than guys that actually injected steroids, trainers with 20-30-40 years of experience and stage work, come on.

N2gaurd:
All I’m saying is we can agree to disagree on N2Guard. I think the micro-dosing of stuff like apple pectin, evening primrose, hawthorn fruit, garlic bulb, dandelion, yerba mate leaf, etc. is just fluff. And Fish oil powder? LOL

To me, N2Guard tries to do too much and doesn’t really do any one thing well, except maybe their liver support mix of TUDCA, milk thistle and NAC. I would rather buy those three supplements separately and know I'm getting high quality and good dose of each instead of taking 7 capsules a day diluted with ingredients like Astragalus root and arjuna bark. And I can have a high quality multivitamin, fish oil that's actually an oil, some vitamin D drops, etc.

Also, is N2guard third party tested? Maybe, but I didn’t see anything on their site. The supplement market is mostly BS anyway, which is why guys like us are on Evo talking about real anabolic "supplements" that actually do something.

ChatGPT and use of AI:
Now, on ChatGPT—that’s been part of my log from the start. If it’s not your thing, no worries, you don’t have to follow. I mentioned in my first post that I’ve been using AI to help program my workouts, supplements, and other stuff. It’s just meant to spark some fun discussion around how AI fits into this.

Obviously, I’m not letting it tell me what to pin. I’d still bring my plan here to get feedback from the Evo bros before doing anything.

That said, the chats are only as good as what I feed them. I already know how to build training programs pretty well, so I’ve trained a chat that gives me solid feedback when I'm tweaking things. Same with supplements. It's exported out my programs into training logs in Excel.

It’s also been helpful summarizing my weekly updates for this log.

 

[texas.redneck]

This is my current supplement/vitamin stack and planned liver support. I added my notes in [brackets]. If anyone reads all this, there's a real treat in one of my notes down there. . LOL

AM – Empty Stomach​

• NAC – 600 mg [in my Persona vitamin pack, see note below]

• Lysine – 1,000 mg

• Inner-Eco Probiotic – serving per label

• Nitric Oxide capsules – 2 caps [using these up until the 120 cap bottle is gone, I am just going to do the powder preworkout]

AM – With Breakfast​

• Multivitamin – half daily dose [This comes in one of those customizable Persona vitamin pack that's $50/month and includes a couple items below]

• Vitamin C – 1,000 mg [in my Persona vitamin pack]

• Omega-3 – 1 softgel [in my Persona vitamin pack]

• CoQ10 – 100 mg [in my Persona vitamin pack]

• Vitamin D – per label [one of those dropper things that's lasted me like two years of a drop every morning]

• Zinc – 30 mg

• Pygeum – 25 mg (split dose) [So about the Pygeum and Sunflower lecithin...i wanted to increase semen volume. . I don't plan to re-up these when they run out]

• Sunflower Lecithin – per label (split dose) [So about the Pygeum and Sunflower lecithin...i wanted to increase semen volume.. I don't plan to re-up these when they run out]

• Creatine – 5 g (either here or in post-workout protein shake)

• Collagen Peptides – serving per label [my wife got some she's not using and I don't do a great job of remembering to take this. probably won't buy more unless their is a compelling argument]

• TUDCA – split dose per label [I planned to start with Anavar and it will probably last me through PCT and I won't buy more]

• Milk Thistle – split dose per label [I planned to start with Anavar and it will probably last me through PCT and I won't buy more]

PM – With Dinner​

• Multivitamin – other half daily dose

• Pygeum – 25 mg [note above]

• Sunflower Lecithin – per label [note above]

• TUDCA – split dose per label [note above]

• Milk Thistle – split dose per label [note above]

• Boron – per label [I bought this before my cycle to help promote natural testosterone. I'll finish it after PCT but don't plan to buy more because I think its BS]

• Tongkat Ali – per label [I bought this before my cycle to help promote natural testosterone. I'll finish it after PCT but don't plan to buy more because I think its BS]

PM – 30–60 Minutes Before Bed​

• Magnesium – per label

• L-Theanine – 200 mg [I think BS probably won't buy more]

• Ashwagandha – per label [comes in that persona pack for $50/month but i'm going to take it out because I think BS]

 

[LevButlerov]

N2gaurd:
All I’m saying is we can agree to disagree on N2Guard. I think the micro-dosing of stuff like apple pectin, evening primrose, hawthorn fruit, garlic bulb, dandelion, yerba mate leaf, etc. is just fluff. And Fish oil powder? LOL

To me, N2Guard tries to do too much and doesn’t really do any one thing well, except maybe their liver support mix of TUDCA, milk thistle and NAC. I would rather buy those three supplements separately and know I'm getting high quality and good dose of each instead of taking 7 capsules a day diluted with ingredients like Astragalus root and arjuna bark. And I can have a high quality multivitamin, fish oil that's actually an oil, some vitamin D drops, etc.

Also, is N2guard third party tested? Maybe, but I didn’t see anything on their site. The supplement market is mostly BS anyway, which is why guys like us are on Evo talking about real anabolic "supplements" that actually do something.

ChatGPT and use of AI:
Now, on ChatGPT—that’s been part of my log from the start. If it’s not your thing, no worries, you don’t have to follow. I mentioned in my first post that I’ve been using AI to help program my workouts, supplements, and other stuff. It’s just meant to spark some fun discussion around how AI fits into this.

Obviously, I’m not letting it tell me what to pin. I’d still bring my plan here to get feedback from the Evo bros before doing anything.

That said, the chats are only as good as what I feed them. I already know how to build training programs pretty well, so I’ve trained a chat that gives me solid feedback when I'm tweaking things. Same with supplements. It's exported out my programs into training logs in Excel.

It’s also been helpful summarizing my weekly updates for this log.

sorry I can't talk to chatgpt, this is Ai text. Please start writing this yourself and we can talk.

 

[LevButlerov]

Listen you can do what you wish, but getting ai advice is not good, ai is just reading other peoples info and telling you their views. You know how many badly educated views on the market?
You know how many people in the hospital because they listened to chatgpt? a LOT! @texas.redneck
here is an example
https://www.ndtv.com/feature/60-yea...following-chatgpt-generated-diet-plan-9067151

You're saying ai knows more than guys that actually injected steroids, trainers with 20-30-40 years of experience and stage work, come on.

here is a person in hospital using chatgpt FACT

 

[LevButlerov]

This is my current supplement/vitamin stack and planned liver support. I added my notes in [brackets]. If anyone reads all this, there's a real treat in one of my notes down there. . LOL

AM – Empty Stomach​

• NAC – 600 mg [in my Persona vitamin pack, see note below]

• Lysine – 1,000 mg

• Inner-Eco Probiotic – serving per label

• Nitric Oxide capsules – 2 caps [using these up until the 120 cap bottle is gone, I am just going to do the powder preworkout]

AM – With Breakfast​

• Multivitamin – half daily dose [This comes in one of those customizable Persona vitamin pack that's $50/month and includes a couple items below]

• Vitamin C – 1,000 mg [in my Persona vitamin pack]

• Omega-3 – 1 softgel [in my Persona vitamin pack]

• CoQ10 – 100 mg [in my Persona vitamin pack]

• Vitamin D – per label [one of those dropper things that's lasted me like two years of a drop every morning]

• Zinc – 30 mg

• Pygeum – 25 mg (split dose) [So about the Pygeum and Sunflower lecithin...i wanted to increase semen volume. . I don't plan to re-up these when they run out]

• Sunflower Lecithin – per label (split dose) [So about the Pygeum and Sunflower lecithin...i wanted to increase semen volume.. I don't plan to re-up these when they run out]

• Creatine – 5 g (either here or in post-workout protein shake)

• Collagen Peptides – serving per label [my wife got some she's not using and I don't do a great job of remembering to take this. probably won't buy more unless their is a compelling argument]

• TUDCA – split dose per label [I planned to start with Anavar and it will probably last me through PCT and I won't buy more]

• Milk Thistle – split dose per label [I planned to start with Anavar and it will probably last me through PCT and I won't buy more]

PM – With Dinner​

• Multivitamin – other half daily dose

• Pygeum – 25 mg [note above]

• Sunflower Lecithin – per label [note above]

• TUDCA – split dose per label [note above]

• Milk Thistle – split dose per label [note above]

• Boron – per label [I bought this before my cycle to help promote natural testosterone. I'll finish it after PCT but don't plan to buy more because I think its BS]

• Tongkat Ali – per label [I bought this before my cycle to help promote natural testosterone. I'll finish it after PCT but don't plan to buy more because I think its BS]

PM – 30–60 Minutes Before Bed​

• Magnesium – per label

• L-Theanine – 200 mg [I think BS probably won't buy more]

• Ashwagandha – per label [comes in that persona pack for $50/month but i'm going to take it out because I think BS]

ok goods share

 

[texas.redneck]

Again that's fine, but where did you get the 12 week number? I'm not sure where this info comes from. Is this chatgpt again?

What if I just wanted to design an 8-10 week cycle? What would you suggest?

It seems like every time I do a cycle I’m pretty happy with results 6-8 weeks into it. I’ve even started a couple cycles that I intended to be 12 weeks but stopped around 10 weeks. I’m in decent shape going into them. I just need a little juice to get me back to repping 225 on bench again and I’m happy. At my age I’m not greedy.

 

[LevButlerov]

What if I just wanted to design an 8-10 week cycle? What would you suggest?

It seems like every time I do a cycle I’m pretty happy with results 6-8 weeks into it. I’ve even started a couple cycles that I intended to be 12 weeks but stopped around 10 weeks. I’m in decent shape going into them. I just need a little juice to get me back to repping 225 on bench again and I’m happy. At my age I’m not greedy.

I would not suggest an 8-10 week cycle. Stick to 12-20 weeks, and if you want 12 no issues, but anything under is too short. 120 days actually optimal for most cycles. @texas.redneck

 

[texas.redneck]

I would not suggest an 8-10 week cycle. Stick to 12-20 weeks, and if you want 12 no issues, but anything under is too short. 120 days actually optimal for most cycles. @texas.redneck

Is it because the longer i am on cycle the more solidified the changes in my body become and then stick with me after?

So when I’m only 6-8 weeks in, although I’m feeling great and strong again, if I stop at that point it’s not really going to stick as well.

 

[LevButlerov]

Is it because the longer i am on cycle the more solidified the changes in my body become and then stick with me after?

Yes and half lives of the gear as well.

So when I’m only 6-8 weeks in, although I’m feeling great and strong again, if I stop at that point it’s not really going to stick as well.

You wont get any results just jack up your hormones and hPTA.

 

[texas.redneck]

Cycle Redo

Week 1-2
testosterone cypionate 200mgs/week split dose 2
equipoise 200mgs/week split dose 2
aromasin 5mgs/week anti e
n2guard 7caps ed organ liver cycle support

week 3-4
testosterone cypionate 200mgs/week split dose 2
equipoise 300mgs/week split dose 2
aromasin 5mgs/week anti e
n2guard 7caps ed organ liver cycle support

week 4-8
testosterone cypionate 300mgs/week split dose 2
equipoise 400mgs/week split dose 2
aromasin 5mgs/2 x week anti e
n2guard 7caps ed organ liver cycle support
cardarine gw (cardio fat loss) 10mgs ed

week 9-16
testosterone cypionate 400mgs/week split dose 2
equipoise 400mgs/week split dose 2
aromasin 5mgs/mon/wed/fri anti e
n2guard 7caps ed organ liver cycle support
cardarine gw (cardio fat loss) 10mgs ed

Lev, I was about to save this down for future reference but had a couple questions.

*You said to make it the 12 weeks like I wanted to just cut the last phase down to week 9-12. Roger that.

*I also don't like too aggressive. There's a reason I am not doing Test E/Cyp at 400-500mg/week again. So what if I just did cyp 200mg/week and EQ 300mg week from weeks 3-12, would be enough to have fun?

*So I know you aren't a fan of the front loading but why do you like stepping up like that instead of just starting flat straight across (e.g., just 300mg straight across weeks 1 to 12)? Is it to manage estrogen?

*When you say "aromasin 5mgs/week anti e", are you taking one 25mg tablet and breaking it into tiny pieces or how do you do this? later on in weeks 4 to 8 you clarify 2x week or mon/wed/fri. At the beginninig weeks 1-4 do you literally just take it once a week?

*I assume I can add in HCG 500iu week split dose?

*You never said when to start PCT. And would it just be the Clomid/Nolvadex combo?

Thanks,

 

[LevButlerov]

thanks for talking to me like a person not just doing chatgpt @texas.redneck
I really do appreciate it.

*You said to make it the 12 weeks like I wanted to just cut the last phase down to week 9-12. Roger that.

Not really, you said 6-8 weeks and I said thats not going to work. Optimal cycle is 16 weeks seriously.

*I also don't like too aggressive. There's a reason I am not doing Test E/Cyp at 400-500mg/week again. So what if I just did cyp 200mg/week and EQ 300mg week from weeks 3-12, would be enough to have fun?

I'm not sure, you are saying you have fun on steroids LOL ok make it 16 weeks fun at 500mgs of test but start 2 weeks with 300mgs load and 100-300mgs eq.

*So I know you aren't a fan of the front loading but why do you like stepping up like that instead of just starting flat straight across (e.g., just 300mg straight across weeks 1 to 12)? Is it to manage estrogen?

Front loading doesnt work, just puts pressure on organs.
EQ good estrogen management and add aromasin 2x/week.

*I assume I can add in HCG 500iu week split dose?

HCG is highly estrogenic and dangerous. I would only use it 1st week pct. Even then supplements better.
https://www.evolutionary.org/hcg-dangers-exposed
https://www.evolutionary.org/hcg-is-dangerous-part-2

*You never said when to start PCT. And would it just be the Clomid/Nolvadex combo?

I would start PCT 3 weeks post cycle but depends on what cycle ends up being.

 

[texas.redneck]

Not really, you said 6-8 weeks and I said thats not going to work. Optimal cycle is 16 weeks seriously.

'm not sure, you are saying you have fun on steroids LOL ok make it 16 weeks fun at 500mgs of test but start 2 weeks with 300mgs load and 100-300mgs eq.

I think you misunderstood. I’m asking if I can do this:

Week 1-2
testosterone cypionate 200mgs/week split dose 2
equipoise 200mgs/week split dose 2
aromasin 5mgs/week anti e
n2guard 7caps ed organ liver cycle support

week 3-12
testosterone cypionate 200mgs/week split dose 2
equipoise 300mgs/week split dose 2
aromasin 5mgs/week anti e
n2guard 7caps ed organ liver cycle support

Start PCT 3 weeks after last injection. Standard Clomid/nolvadex stack.

Does HCG go in week 14 or concurrent with start of Clomid and Nolvadex?

 

[LevButlerov]

I think you misunderstood. I’m asking if I can do this:

Week 1-2
testosterone cypionate 200mgs/week split dose 2
equipoise 200mgs/week split dose 2
aromasin 5mgs/week anti e
n2guard 7caps ed organ liver cycle support

week 3-12
testosterone cypionate 200mgs/week split dose 2
equipoise 300mgs/week split dose 2
aromasin 5mgs/week anti e
n2guard 7caps ed organ liver cycle support

Oh I did misunderstand @texas.redneck I think you can do this but I would up the test to 300mgs 3-12 for sure.

Start PCT 3 weeks after last injection. Standard Clomid/nolvadex stack.

Yes standard but add a fadogia based test booster like hcgenerate for 4 weeks.

Does HCG go in week 14 or concurrent with start of Clomid and Nolvadex?

week 1 of PCT 500 IUs of HCG EOD, basically 5 shots.

 

[texas.redneck]

week 1 of PCT 500 IUs of HCG EOD, basically 5 shots.

Got it. So 5x 100 IU shots of HCG the first week of PCT when I start Clomid and Nolvadex.

I think we may have just planned out my spring 2026 cycle. I obviously have to sleep on it for several months. LOL. But I'll save our work down to my notes.

thanks for talking to me like a person not just doing chatgpt @texas.redneck

Yeah, because we are just talking right now. I'm not drafting out a well thought out post then using chatGPT to help me do some wordsmithing and tighten up the flow. For example, when I wanted to clearly articulate why I prefer to manage my own supplement stack instead of using N2Guard, I sat down and drafted up my post, ran it through a utility chat I have that helps me clean up emails and such. It helped me move around some sentences and articulate some things I wanted to say but didn't quite know how to say it.

 

[texas.redneck]

Hey Everyone,
So good news, I got out of that TRT clinic three month commitment. Turns out there was a limit to what she could prescribe me and that was that my Total T can't exceed 1200. She ran her in house labs today and I was 1400. So she said she could refund me and literally told me just go online and buy it that it will be cheaper. LOL. So I'll be managing everything myself from here on out with ya'lls help. I've got all the supplies already so nothing is changing from my original plan. [EDIT: Even though she told me just go buy online and that 300mg/week wasn't crazy and all that she did try to freak me out that i'll have a stroke and that's why she can't let me go above 1200].

Is there a place you all in the US like to order labs from? I usually go to healthlabs.com, but mostly for STD tests when I am paranoid after hooking up with some girl. They have this testosterone therapy/maintenance panel that I believe covers everything I need - https://www.healthlabs.com/testosterone-maintenance-therapy-level-testing.

Thanks

 

[LevButlerov]

Got it. So 5x 100 IU shots of HCG the first week of PCT when I start Clomid and Nolvadex.

I think we may have just planned out my spring 2026 cycle. I obviously have to sleep on it for several months. LOL. But I'll save our work down to my notes.

That on top of a test booster I suggested.

Yeah, because we are just talking right now. I'm not drafting out a well thought out post then using chatGPT to help me do some wordsmithing

Any time I talk to a person talking thru an ai it pisses me off lol because I like talking to people, I sit here writing all this out just to talk to a bot. @texas.redneck its a steroid forum, you can write anyway you want dont need grammar.

 

[LevButlerov]

Hey Everyone,
So good news, I got out of that TRT clinic three month commitment. Turns out there was a limit to what she could prescribe me and that was that my Total T can't exceed 1200. She ran her in house labs today and I was 1400. So she said she could refund me and literally told me just go online and buy it that it will be cheaper. LOL. So I'll be managing everything myself from here on out with ya'lls help. I've got all the supplies already so nothing is changing from my original plan. [EDIT: Even though she told me just go buy online and that 300mg/week wasn't crazy and all that she did try to freak me out that i'll have a stroke and that's why she can't let me go above 1200].

Is there a place you all in the US like to order labs from? I usually go to healthlabs.com, but mostly for STD tests when I am paranoid after hooking up with some girl. They have this testosterone therapy/maintenance panel that I believe covers everything I need - https://www.healthlabs.com/testosterone-maintenance-therapy-level-testing.

Thanks

@texas.redneck anytime we recommend something to you, you go get your own thing, you sure you want us to suggest a labs place?
or should we say DONT go to this place ___? and you'll do it. lol

and TRT clinics total newbie rip off place.

 

[texas.redneck]

@texas.redneck anytime we recommend something to you, you go get your own thing, you sure you want us to suggest a labs place?
or should we say DONT go to this place ___? and you'll do it. lol

and TRT clinics total newbie rip off place.

I mean I liked your EQ cycle you helped me build. I just wanted to tailor it some for what I wanted and get your blessing.

 

[texas.redneck]

@texas.redneck anytime we recommend something to you, you go get your own thing, you sure you want us to suggest a labs place?
or should we say DONT go to this place ___? and you'll do it. lol

and TRT clinics total newbie rip off place.

P.S., I’m more open when you recommend me things that save me money . So yeah if you have a place I can order labs cheaper than this, most likely go with that.

Edit: Or like telling me not to waste money on Hcg.

 

[LevButlerov]

P.S., I’m more open when you recommend me things that save me money . So yeah if you have a place I can order labs cheaper than this, most likely go with that.

this isn't a save money kind of situation lol

 

[LevButlerov]

I mean I liked your EQ cycle you helped me build. I just wanted to tailor it some for what I wanted and get your blessing.

I was just kidding with you @texas.redneck everyone got their own way I understand you.

I would say +HCG but still add the test booster fagodia based. If you do listen to me use HCGenerate or just "build your own" lol

 

[texas.redneck]

I was just kidding with you @texas.redneck everyone got their own way I understand you.

I would say +HCG but still add the test booster fagodia based. If you do listen to me use HCGenerate or just "build your own" lol

For PCT I might actually try that HCgenerate. That would replace my Tongkat Ali and boron right?

 

[LevButlerov]

For PCT I might actually try that HCgenerate. That would replace my Tongkat Ali and boron right?

Actually more than just tongkat ali and boron, 3-4 div and fadogia and fenugreek @texas.redneck
check
https://www.hcgenerate.com
https://www.needtobuildmuscle.com/pct/hcgenerate-n2generate

 

[texas.redneck]

@texas.redneck anytime we recommend something to you, you go get your own thing, you sure you want us to suggest a labs place?
or should we say DONT go to this place ___? and you'll do it. lol

and TRT clinics total newbie rip off place.

Actually, the more I think about, it let’s see, last week I bought the MK677 you suggested from umbrella labs and went ahead and got more GW from umbrella labs since you pooped all over SARMS research and said it should go into the trash.

Basically the only advice I haven’t taken was that I took shots at the precious N2guard and now I’ve got the label of I don’t take advice.

 

[LevButlerov]

Actually, the more I think about, it let’s see, last week I bought the MK677 you suggested from umbrella labs and went ahead and got more GW from umbrella labs since you pooped all over SARMS research and said it should go into the trash.

Basically the only advice I haven’t taken was that I took shots at the precious N2guard and now I’ve got the label of I don’t take advice.

sarms research dump is the best way, smart move
And we all have our roads, EVO family here for you either way. @texas.redneck

 

[texas.redneck]

Question –
Should I get an estradiol test this week? Week 4 starts tomorrow. I want to get the full metabolic panel including estrogen, but I really wanted to wait until week 5 or 6. So I’d prefer to save my money and get all at once unless you all think I’m at some risk here.

I’m not on AI and not having any high estrogen symptoms. (no mood swings, libido fine, good erectile function). I had a brief scare with sensitive nipples earlier this week. Realized it was chaffed nipples because I put my weighted vest on over my cycling jersey to walk my dog and cycling jersey material is somewhat abrasive to nipples when you have a 20lb plate weighted vest on it. Nipple chafing went away, so false alarm. I also wanted to cry yesterday but I believe that was because my bathroom flooded and I had to pay $2,500 to the restoration people to dry out my carpets and walls. I don’t think I wanted to cry because of high estrogen.


Cycle Log – Current (Testosterone Cypionate base)
Start Date: 7/28/2025
Compound: Testosterone Cypionate
Dose:
Week 1: 200mg/week
Weeks 2-13: 300 mg/week, 150 mg 2x/week
Planned Anavar (Oxandrolone): 40 mg/day, final 6 weeks (likely weeks 7–12 w/optional 13 week)

Cycle support:
Gonadorelin - The TRT clinic was giving me this in lieu of HCG. It’s a sublingual tablet. I plan to stop taking Gonadorelin and use in week 1 of PCT to kickstart my pituitary gland. I did some research and Gonadorelin actually stimulates the pituitary to make my own LH versus HCG that just “mimics” LH or something like that (someone smarter than me can correct my accuracy). So this Gonadorelin sounds good for week 1 of PCT to kickstart my pituitary. Let me know otherwise.

MK-677: 12.5 mg before bed – I started this last night per @LevButlerov instructions.

Labs
Baseline (7/25/25 and 7/28/25, pre-cycle)
Total T: 358 ng/dL
Free T: (not tested here)
PSA: 0.55 ng/mL
HGB/HCT: not run
Free T: 10.1 pg/mL (low-mid ref range: 6.8–21.5)
Hematocrit (C): 48.5%

Mid-Cycle (~2.5 weeks in, 8/14/25)
Total T: 1424 ng/dL (clinic cutoff 1200, you’re running “cycle” levels)
HGB: 14.7 g/dL
Hematocrit (C): 43.2%
(both HGB and Hematocrit actually lower than baseline)

Weight Tracking

7/16/25 (Pre-creatine): 193.8 lbs
7/28/25 (on Creatine >1 week, before Testosterone): 197.6
8/4/2025: (1 week on Testosterone): 199.8
8/11/25 (2 weeks on): 204.0 lbs
8/16/25 (3 weeks on): 203.6 lbs

Training (Week 2 to Week 3 comparison)

Saturday (8/9/25) – Combined my upper A and Lower A days
Sunday – moved my son to a different dorm and won $150 at blackjack
Monday – 1 hour trainer ride, sweet spot training
Tuesday – upper B day
Wednesday – ~30-40 minute swim sprints
Thursday – Lower B day
Friday – Rest
Saturday (Today) – aerobic bike ride 90 minutes had to change a flat. Going to do Upper A day in a few hours.

Training note - So last memorial day I destroyed my bicep because I decided to do a Murph workout after not doing one for 3 years or so and really not training. I still finished it within 5 minutes of the one I did 3 years ago, but in so doing the 100 kipping pullups absolutely wrecked my biceps. I’m still rehabbing them so thrown a wrench in my training because I can’t really do rows and curls right now.

Some analysis:

Big picture:

• Bench and leg press both saw clear progression.
• RDLs and split squats moved up in weight.
• Rear delt fly had a nice rep jump.
• Some accessories (lateral raise, crunch, lunges, calves) got dropped in Week 3 since you condensed Upper A + Lower A.

Warmup/Prehab – I do about 10-15 minutes of a low back rehab routine to start every workout. Started adding in a bicep rehab routine at end.

Upper A / Lower A (combined days this week)

• Barbell Bench Press – Week 2: 160×10 (4 sets w/10 reps across) → Week 3: 165×10, 165×12, 165×9 (added weight, more top-end reps).
• Cable Lateral Raise – Week 2: 7.5×15 (2 sets) → Week 3: skipped.
• Kneeling Cable Crunch (Rope) – Week 2: 52.5×12 (2 sets) → Week 3: skipped.
• Leg Press – Week 2: 270×12 (3 sets) → Week 3: 270x12, 320×12, 320x12 — solid jump. This is that pivot not rail style leg press. So harder to load up than the rail one.
• Romanian Deadlift – Week 2: 65/12, 75×12, 85×12 → Week 3: 85x12, 95×12 (steady progression).
• Walking Lunge – Week 2: 45×16 → Week 3: skipped.
• Standing Calf Raise – Week 2: 90×16 (2 sets) → Week 3: skipped.
• Ab Rollout – Week 2: BW×9, BW×8 → Week 3: BW×10 (2 sets, more reps).

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​

Upper B

• High-Incline DB Press – Week 2: 50x10, 60x10, 60×10 → Week 3: 60x10, 60x9, 60×9 (2 sets, slight drop in reps).
• Cable Rear Delt Fly – Week 2: 7.5×11, 7.5×10 → Week 3: 7.5×15, 7.5×12 (big rep increase).
• Straight arm pull downs,
• overhead cable triceps extension

---

​

Lower B

• Bulgarian Split Squat – Week 2: 35×10 (3 sets) → Week 3: 35x10, 40×8, 40x8 (heavier load).
• Seated Hamstring Curl – Week 2: 60×15 (3 sets) → Week 3: 70×12 (3 sets, weight up, reps adjusted).
• Feet elevated glute bridge
• finished with core and ab work

---

​

 

[texas.redneck]

got my mk677 and some supplements to add in when I start on Anavar. See my earlier supplement stack post if you want my whole list with explanatory comments. Either no one read that post or no one thought that me taking Sunflower Lecythin and Pygeum to increase semen volume was funny.

Here's some pics. I'm not sure if the N2Guard is legit. The other stuff I got from umbrella labs and Amazon. Also pictured is a fairly new Springfield Hellcat Pro comp w/apex trigger and Defender CCW red dot. The Springfield has recently replaced my Sig P365X as my every day carry because I just can't deal with Sig anymore. Further in background is just a plain P365 I carry a lot in the summer because it's easier to conceal.

 

[Npcclassicphysique champ]

got my mk677 and some supplements to add in when I start on Anavar. See my earlier supplement stack post if you want my whole list with explanatory comments. Either no one read that post or no one thought that me taking Sunflower Lecythin and Pygeum to increase semen volume was funny.

Here's some pics. I'm not sure if the N2Guard is legit. The other stuff I got from umbrella labs and Amazon. Also pictured is a fairly new Springfield Hellcat Pro comp w/apex trigger and Defender CCW red dot. The Springfield has recently replaced my Sig P365X as my every day carry because I just can't deal with Sig anymore. Further in background is just a plain P365 I carry a lot in the summer because it's easier to conceal.
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lOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! you did a hand painted n2guard label you didnt even write it nicely! you a beast lol
but love the Umbrella labs touchdown thats real USA make mk677 super high quality use umbrella myself brother @texas.redneck

how you doin on food and trianing today?

 

[texas.redneck]

how you doin on food and trianing today?

Good on both today.

Half cliff bar

1:20 light aerobic bike ride to start day. Got flat and had to change.

Breakfast - out to eat with wife and MIL. omelette, sausage, hash browns, biscuits, sausage gravy, fruit.

Nap.

Lunch with son - he asked if I wanted to go to lunch because he wanted money. We had steak and chicken fajitas.

Lift - upper A day lift. It’s too easy at this point. Testosterone is like gym cheat code. Spent over hour at gym

Dinner - sausage, sauerkraut and potatoes

Snack - protein shake and banana

 

[texas.redneck]

lOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! you did a hand painted n2guard label you didnt even write it nicely!

Inside joke.

 

[Npcclassicphysique champ]

Good on both today.

Half cliff bar

1:20 light aerobic bike ride to start day. Got flat and had to change.

Breakfast - out to eat with wife and MIL. omelette, sausage, hash browns, biscuits, sausage gravy, fruit.

Nap.

Lunch with son - he asked if I wanted to go to lunch because he wanted money. We had steak and chicken fajitas.

Lift - upper A day lift. It’s too easy at this point. Testosterone is like gym cheat code. Spent over hour at gym

Dinner - sausage, sauerkraut and potatoes

Snack - protein shake and banana

you got no meal pics for the fam? come on
seems like a real clean day brother

 

[stevesmi]

got my mk677 and some supplements to add in when I start on Anavar. See my earlier supplement stack post if you want my whole list with explanatory comments. Either no one read that post or no one thought that me taking Sunflower Lecythin and Pygeum to increase semen volume was funny.

Here's some pics. I'm not sure if the N2Guard is legit. The other stuff I got from umbrella labs and Amazon. Also pictured is a fairly new Springfield Hellcat Pro comp w/apex trigger and Defender CCW red dot. The Springfield has recently replaced my Sig P365X as my every day carry because I just can't deal with Sig anymore. Further in background is just a plain P365 I carry a lot in the summer because it's easier to conceal.
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i get the inside joke on the n2guard. that is a good one man. @texas.redneck

 

[BodyMonster34]

Good on both today.

Half cliff bar

1:20 light aerobic bike ride to start day. Got flat and had to change.

Breakfast - out to eat with wife and MIL. omelette, sausage, hash browns, biscuits, sausage gravy, fruit.

Nap.

Lunch with son - he asked if I wanted to go to lunch because he wanted money. We had steak and chicken fajitas.

Lift - upper A day lift. It’s too easy at this point. Testosterone is like gym cheat code. Spent over hour at gym

Dinner - sausage, sauerkraut and potatoes

Snack - protein shake and banana

bro steak fajitas sounds tex-mex for sure. hope you went to a legit messican restaurant. not fake ass shit like taco hell @texas.redneck

 

[texas.redneck]

not fake ass shit like taco hell

Taco Bell is not cheap anymore. I spent like $14 last time I went on a quesadilla, chalupa supreme and crispy soft taco.

 

[2Thick]

Taco Bell is not cheap anymore. I spent like $14 last time I went on a quesadilla, chalupa supreme and crispy soft taco.

taco hell gives me the runs lol. i think the food is super low quality. but also they got a lot of bad hygiene in those places @texas.redneck

 

[ceo]

got my mk677 and some supplements to add in when I start on Anavar. See my earlier supplement stack post if you want my whole list with explanatory comments. Either no one read that post or no one thought that me taking Sunflower Lecythin and Pygeum to increase semen volume was funny.

Here's some pics. I'm not sure if the N2Guard is legit. The other stuff I got from umbrella labs and Amazon. Also pictured is a fairly new Springfield Hellcat Pro comp w/apex trigger and Defender CCW red dot. The Springfield has recently replaced my Sig P365X as my every day carry because I just can't deal with Sig anymore. Further in background is just a plain P365 I carry a lot in the summer because it's easier to conceal.
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bros tudca is one of my favorites. and that n2guard funny. you should start your own supp company and hand write the names on the labels ha! @texas.redneck

 

[Mobster]

That label FFS lol

 

[ROIDDERS]

got my mk677 and some supplements to add in when I start on Anavar. See my earlier supplement stack post if you want my whole list with explanatory comments. Either no one read that post or no one thought that me taking Sunflower Lecythin and Pygeum to increase semen volume was funny.

Here's some pics. I'm not sure if the N2Guard is legit. The other stuff I got from umbrella labs and Amazon. Also pictured is a fairly new Springfield Hellcat Pro comp w/apex trigger and Defender CCW red dot. The Springfield has recently replaced my Sig P365X as my every day carry because I just can't deal with Sig anymore. Further in background is just a plain P365 I carry a lot in the summer because it's easier to conceal.
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your handwriting is pretty good lol. but your r looks like a v. i'm going to launch my own supplement brand and hand write the labels you gave me a money making idea now @texas.redneck

 

[Ulter]

got my mk677 and some supplements to add in when I start on Anavar. See my earlier supplement stack post if you want my whole list with explanatory comments. Either no one read that post or no one thought that me taking Sunflower Lecythin and Pygeum to increase semen volume was funny.

Here's some pics. I'm not sure if the N2Guard is legit. The other stuff I got from umbrella labs and Amazon. Also pictured is a fairly new Springfield Hellcat Pro comp w/apex trigger and Defender CCW red dot. The Springfield has recently replaced my Sig P365X as my every day carry because I just can't deal with Sig anymore. Further in background is just a plain P365 I carry a lot in the summer because it's easier to conceal.
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a trick with mk677

take in the morning if you want crazy appetite
take before bed if you want more recovery/sleep

take both if you want both

 

[BodyMonster34]

Taco Bell is not cheap anymore. I spent like $14 last time I went on a quesadilla, chalupa supreme and crispy soft taco.

bro my son eat that stuff. he call it taco hell lol

 

[Noah Wixx]

Inside joke.

Thats some shit u would see a Indian scam company do that label kills me lol

 

[RoySimpson]

got my mk677 and some supplements to add in when I start on Anavar. See my earlier supplement stack post if you want my whole list with explanatory comments. Either no one read that post or no one thought that me taking Sunflower Lecythin and Pygeum to increase semen volume was funny.

Here's some pics. I'm not sure if the N2Guard is legit. The other stuff I got from umbrella labs and Amazon. Also pictured is a fairly new Springfield Hellcat Pro comp w/apex trigger and Defender CCW red dot. The Springfield has recently replaced my Sig P365X as my every day carry because I just can't deal with Sig anymore. Further in background is just a plain P365 I carry a lot in the summer because it's easier to conceal.
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@texas.redneck i think thats n2guard from china not USA!

 

[Tiger Salman Khan]

got my mk677 and some supplements to add in when I start on Anavar. See my earlier supplement stack post if you want my whole list with explanatory comments. Either no one read that post or no one thought that me taking Sunflower Lecythin and Pygeum to increase semen volume was funny.

Here's some pics. I'm not sure if the N2Guard is legit. The other stuff I got from umbrella labs and Amazon. Also pictured is a fairly new Springfield Hellcat Pro comp w/apex trigger and Defender CCW red dot. The Springfield has recently replaced my Sig P365X as my every day carry because I just can't deal with Sig anymore. Further in background is just a plain P365 I carry a lot in the summer because it's easier to conceal.
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@texas.redneck Umbrella labs stuff is legit.........

 

[texas.redneck]

Does MK677 cause pretty significant water retention and bloating? I blew up pretty good with water weight almost as soon as I started it and jumped up 3-4lbs. For the first two days, I had that filled up stomach feeling like when I overdo it on electrolytes and feel bloated. that went away and I just feel it in my hands now like rings are a little tighter than usual. I just want to be sure it's the MK677 and I didn't just get blasted with some high estrogen bloating.

 

[LevButlerov]

Does MK677 cause pretty significant water retention and bloating? I blew up pretty good with water weight almost as soon as I started it and jumped up 3-4lbs. For the first two days, I had that filled up stomach feeling like when I overdo it on electrolytes and feel bloated. that went away and I just feel it in my hands now like rings are a little tighter than usual. I just want to be sure it's the MK677 and I didn't just get blasted with some high estrogen bloating.

@texas.redneck Yeah MK677 is known for that early water retention and bloating look so what you felt lines up. Most guys see the scale jump a few pounds quick because of increased ghrelin and sodium balance shifts. That tight hand feeling with rings is a classic sign too (think high HGH). Usually it levels out after the first week or two as your body adjusts. High estrogen bloat usually comes with puffier face or chest and more overall soft look, not just hands and stomach fullness. Sounds like what you’re describing is pretty standard nutrobal MK677 water weight.

Question –
Should I get an estradiol test this week? Week 4 starts tomorrow. I want to get the full metabolic panel including estrogen, but I really wanted to wait until week 5 or 6. So I’d prefer to save my money and get all at once unless you all think I’m at some risk here.

Yes you should do it, i missed this sorry.

I’m not on AI and not having any high estrogen symptoms. (no mood swings, libido fine, good erectile function). I had a brief scare with sensitive nipples earlier this week. Realized it was chaffed nipples because I put my weighted vest on over my cycling jersey to walk my dog and cycling jersey material is somewhat abrasive to nipples when you have a 20lb plate weighted vest on it. Nipple chafing went away, so false alarm. I also wanted to cry yesterday but I believe that was because my bathroom flooded and I had to pay $2,500 to the restoration people to dry out my carpets and walls. I don’t think I wanted to cry because of high estrogen.

you should still do the test even at your dose today.

Cycle Log – Current (Testosterone Cypionate base)
Start Date: 7/28/2025
Compound: Testosterone Cypionate
Dose:
Week 1: 200mg/week
Weeks 2-13: 300 mg/week, 150 mg 2x/week
Planned Anavar (Oxandrolone): 40 mg/day, final 6 weeks (likely weeks 7–12 w/optional 13 week)

Cycle support:
Gonadorelin - The TRT clinic was giving me this in lieu of HCG. It’s a sublingual tablet. I plan to stop taking Gonadorelin and use in week 1 of PCT to kickstart my pituitary gland. I did some research and Gonadorelin actually stimulates the pituitary to make my own LH versus HCG that just “mimics” LH or something like that (someone smarter than me can correct my accuracy). So this Gonadorelin sounds good for week 1 of PCT to kickstart my pituitary. Let me know otherwise.

MK-677: 12.5 mg before bed – I started this last night per @LevButlerov instructions.

Labs
Baseline (7/25/25 and 7/28/25, pre-cycle)
Total T: 358 ng/dL
Free T: (not tested here)
PSA: 0.55 ng/mL
HGB/HCT: not run
Free T: 10.1 pg/mL (low-mid ref range: 6.8–21.5)
Hematocrit (C): 48.5%

Mid-Cycle (~2.5 weeks in, 8/14/25)
Total T: 1424 ng/dL (clinic cutoff 1200, you’re running “cycle” levels)
HGB: 14.7 g/dL
Hematocrit (C): 43.2%
(both HGB and Hematocrit actually lower than baseline)

Weight Tracking

7/16/25 (Pre-creatine): 193.8 lbs
7/28/25 (on Creatine >1 week, before Testosterone): 197.6
8/4/2025: (1 week on Testosterone): 199.8
8/11/25 (2 weeks on): 204.0 lbs
8/16/25 (3 weeks on): 203.6 lbs

Training (Week 2 to Week 3 comparison)

Saturday (8/9/25) – Combined my upper A and Lower A days
Sunday – moved my son to a different dorm and won $150 at blackjack
Monday – 1 hour trainer ride, sweet spot training
Tuesday – upper B day
Wednesday – ~30-40 minute swim sprints
Thursday – Lower B day
Friday – Rest
Saturday (Today) – aerobic bike ride 90 minutes had to change a flat. Going to do Upper A day in a few hours.

Training note - So last memorial day I destroyed my bicep because I decided to do a Murph workout after not doing one for 3 years or so and really not training. I still finished it within 5 minutes of the one I did 3 years ago, but in so doing the 100 kipping pullups absolutely wrecked my biceps. I’m still rehabbing them so thrown a wrench in my training because I can’t really do rows and curls right now.

Some analysis:

Big picture:

• Bench and leg press both saw clear progression.
• RDLs and split squats moved up in weight.
• Rear delt fly had a nice rep jump.
• Some accessories (lateral raise, crunch, lunges, calves) got dropped in Week 3 since you condensed Upper A + Lower A.

Warmup/Prehab – I do about 10-15 minutes of a low back rehab routine to start every workout. Started adding in a bicep rehab routine at end.

Upper A / Lower A (combined days this week)

• Barbell Bench Press – Week 2: 160×10 (4 sets w/10 reps across) → Week 3: 165×10, 165×12, 165×9 (added weight, more top-end reps).
• Cable Lateral Raise – Week 2: 7.5×15 (2 sets) → Week 3: skipped.
• Kneeling Cable Crunch (Rope) – Week 2: 52.5×12 (2 sets) → Week 3: skipped.
• Leg Press – Week 2: 270×12 (3 sets) → Week 3: 270x12, 320×12, 320x12 — solid jump. This is that pivot not rail style leg press. So harder to load up than the rail one.
• Romanian Deadlift – Week 2: 65/12, 75×12, 85×12 → Week 3: 85x12, 95×12 (steady progression).
• Walking Lunge – Week 2: 45×16 → Week 3: skipped.
• Standing Calf Raise – Week 2: 90×16 (2 sets) → Week 3: skipped.
• Ab Rollout – Week 2: BW×9, BW×8 → Week 3: BW×10 (2 sets, more reps).

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[/]Upper B

• High-Incline DB Press – Week 2: 50x10, 60x10, 60×10 → Week 3: 60x10, 60x9, 60×9 (2 sets, slight drop in reps).
• Cable Rear Delt Fly – Week 2: 7.5×11, 7.5×10 → Week 3: 7.5×15, 7.5×12 (big rep increase).
• Straight arm pull downs,
• overhead cable triceps extension

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[/]Lower B

• Bulgarian Split Squat – Week 2: 35×10 (3 sets) → Week 3: 35x10, 40×8, 40x8 (heavier load).
• Seated Hamstring Curl – Week 2: 60×15 (3 sets) → Week 3: 70×12 (3 sets, weight up, reps adjusted).
• Feet elevated glute bridge
• finished with core and ab work

You dont need to use Gonadorelin, its unnecessary and really not going to help you on cycle.
On the training, I don't understand which days you trained what?
And your blood work really shows nothing, do you have complete panels?

 

[ballin2504]

got my mk677 and some supplements to add in when I start on Anavar. See my earlier supplement stack post if you want my whole list with explanatory comments. Either no one read that post or no one thought that me taking Sunflower Lecythin and Pygeum to increase semen volume was funny.

Here's some pics. I'm not sure if the N2Guard is legit. The other stuff I got from umbrella labs and Amazon. Also pictured is a fairly new Springfield Hellcat Pro comp w/apex trigger and Defender CCW red dot. The Springfield has recently replaced my Sig P365X as my every day carry because I just can't deal with Sig anymore. Further in background is just a plain P365 I carry a lot in the summer because it's easier to conceal.
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Lol that’s some good stuff brother

 

[texas.redneck]

@texas.redneck Yeah MK677 is known for that early water retention and bloating look so what you felt lines up. Most guys see the scale jump a few pounds quick because of increased ghrelin and sodium balance shifts. That tight hand feeling with rings is a classic sign too (think high HGH). Usually it levels out after the first week or two as your body adjusts. High estrogen bloat usually comes with puffier face or chest and more overall soft look, not just hands and stomach fullness. Sounds like what you’re describing is pretty standard nutrobal MK677 water weight.


Yes you should do it, i missed this sorry.

you should still do the test even at your dose today.

You dont need to use Gonadorelin, its unnecessary and really not going to help you on cycle.
On the training, I don't understand which days you trained what?
And your blood work really shows nothing, do you have complete panels?

I got the estradiol, ultrasensitive yesterday. Waiting on results. the MK677 blowing me up kind of freaked me out and I wanted to make sure estrogen still good. the MK677 bloat went down toward end of day yesterday and overnight. I started peeing a lot more again and dropped 2 pounds and don't feel as bloated. It was like my body just expelled the extra water. I never changed the dose. Just stuck at the 12.5mg/night through the symptoms.

I dropped the Gonadorelin. was going to pop a couple week one of PCT to kickstart the pituitary gland unless you feel very strongly against that.

I'll do some screenshots from my training log of my last week of training. KEEP IN MIND that my actual lifting volume might seem low but note the the following and that their is a science to building my program:

(1) it's imbalanced because i've been rehabbing my biceps since memorial day when I thought it would be fun to do a Murph workout that included 100 pullups.* So I'm not doing a lot of curling and rowing at the moment.

(2) if front squats look weak it's because they are. I really don't do any movements with loaded spine (barbell on back) anymore because of degernative disc in low back. This was first time I'd done these in years. My core leg movement is usually Bulgarian split squats. I've worked in leg press weekly and going to try hack squats next week.

(3) Don't forget I'm doing all this and still have 2 swim days and 1 bike ride day.

(4) that back rehab/prehab routine I do at the beginning is like a 15 minute routine just bullet proofing my low back type stuff.

(5) in the next week or 2 once my bicep is really feeling back to 100% I want to switch to a 6 day week push/legs/pull training split and I'm going to drop all the way to just 1 swim day a week and make a good ~5 week pure bodybuilding run for end of my cycle.

pics loaded out of order but I labeled them. some of the columns are cutoff I just noticed but not going to go back and re-do screen shots. The glute bridges are tempo with 5 seconds down. Also looks like I wasn't super complete as I know I did Ab rollouts and the Y raises I had moved to the warmup for shoulder warmup. the cable Y raises were one of the substitutions since I can't curl or row right now.

I think this week I'm going to replace with barbell glute bridge or there may be one of those bridge machines at my gym.

Lower A day last sunday Saturday

Lower B day - Last Thursday

Upper A day - Last Saturday

Upper B day last Tuesday.

 

[texas.redneck]

And your blood work really shows nothing, do you have complete panels?

Are you asking about my original (not on any PED) comprehensive metabolic panel blood work? Yes, I get this done at least once a year at my annual physical, just had it done in January at my annual and the TRT clinic did it a few weeks ago and only thing it shows is i'm high on creatinine. I'm just barely above the standard range they give. In year's past I have been high on blood glucose just because I will eat me a crap ton of deserts but I cut out deserts for like the two months leading up to my CMP and blood glucose checked out that time. I really did it more just to prove to myself I'm not a diabetic. LOL. I've been off deserts a couple months now so pretty good. I replaced the after dinner desert with yogurt parfait with fresh fruit and granola.

 

[texas.redneck]

@LevButlerov
I'm going to do the complete panel with metabolics, test, estrogen, etc. in September. I am waiting until ~week 5-6 of my 300/mg week dosage so I can get a good lab result of my steady state on that dose of test. I just got the estradiol yesterday for peace of mind on the estrogen for now. Not sure if that is what you were asking.

 

[LevButlerov]

Are you asking about my original (not on any PED) comprehensive metabolic panel blood work? Yes, I get this done at least once a year at my annual physical, just had it done in January at my annual and the TRT clinic did it a few weeks ago and only thing it shows is i'm high on creatinine. I'm just barely above the standard range they give. In year's past I have been high on blood glucose just because I will eat me a crap ton of deserts but I cut out deserts for like the two months leading up to my CMP and blood glucose checked out that time. I really did it more just to prove to myself I'm not a diabetic. LOL. I've been off deserts a couple months now so pretty good. I replaced the after dinner desert with yogurt parfait with fresh fruit and granola.

@LevButlerov
I'm going to do the complete panel with metabolics, test, estrogen, etc. in September. I am waiting until ~week 5-6 of my 300/mg week dosage so I can get a good lab result of my steady state on that dose of test. I just got the estradiol yesterday for peace of mind on the estrogen for now. Not sure if that is what you were asking.

@texas.redneck thats fine lets go at week 5 no issues dont wait for 6

 

[LevButlerov]

I got the estradiol, ultrasensitive yesterday. Waiting on results. the MK677 blowing me up kind of freaked me out and I wanted to make sure estrogen still good. the MK677 bloat went down toward end of day yesterday and overnight. I started peeing a lot more again and dropped 2 pounds and don't feel as bloated. It was like my body just expelled the extra water. I never changed the dose. Just stuck at the 12.5mg/night through the symptoms.

I dropped the Gonadorelin. was going to pop a couple week one of PCT to kickstart the pituitary gland unless you feel very strongly against that.

I'll do some screenshots from my training log of my last week of training. KEEP IN MIND that my actual lifting volume might seem low but note the the following and that their is a science to building my program:

(1) it's imbalanced because i've been rehabbing my biceps since memorial day when I thought it would be fun to do a Murph workout that included 100 pullups.* So I'm not doing a lot of curling and rowing at the moment.

(2) if front squats look weak it's because they are. I really don't do any movements with loaded spine (barbell on back) anymore because of degernative disc in low back. This was first time I'd done these in years. My core leg movement is usually Bulgarian split squats. I've worked in leg press weekly and going to try hack squats next week.

(3) Don't forget I'm doing all this and still have 2 swim days and 1 bike ride day.

(4) that back rehab/prehab routine I do at the beginning is like a 15 minute routine just bullet proofing my low back type stuff.

(5) in the next week or 2 once my bicep is really feeling back to 100% I want to switch to a 6 day week push/legs/pull training split and I'm going to drop all the way to just 1 swim day a week and make a good ~5 week pure bodybuilding run for end of my cycle.

pics loaded out of order but I labeled them. some of the columns are cutoff I just noticed but not going to go back and re-do screen shots. The glute bridges are tempo with 5 seconds down. Also looks like I wasn't super complete as I know I did Ab rollouts and the Y raises I had moved to the warmup for shoulder warmup. the cable Y raises were one of the substitutions since I can't curl or row right now.

I think this week I'm going to replace with barbell glute bridge or there may be one of those bridge machines at my gym.

Lower A day last sunday Saturday

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Lower B day - Last Thursday
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Upper A day - Last Saturday
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Upper B day last Tuesday.
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@texas.redneck good call on getting the estradiol checked, that will give you peace of mind. I'm waiting on results.

The water swing you described is classic MK677, nothing to stress on since your weight already corrected itself.

Dropping the Gonadorelin is fine, you really don’t need to force it if your body is already handling recovery, just keep it simple.

Your training setup makes sense with the injuries and extra swim and bike work, you’re still getting plenty of volume overall. Once that bicep is good and you shift to the push/legs/pull with less cardio, you’ll be in a perfect spot to really push the bodybuilding side. Just careful, we can do this long term to get to your goals without more injuries.

 

[texas.redneck]

@texas.redneck thats fine lets go at week 5 no issues dont wait for 6

The only reason I was thinking week 6 for CMP is because my first week was only the 200mg. I started at 200mg from the TRT clinic and then I was like that's dumb to even shut down my whole system for that much. That's when I got back on Evo and jumped up to 300mg week...LOL. Anyways, for that reason I was going to push those labs out to week 6, unless you think it doesn't matter. Here's where I'm at now with actual and planned:

Week 1 started 7/27 - 200mg
Week 2 Started 8/3 - 300mg
Week 3 started 8/10 - 300mg
Week 4 started 8/17 - 320mg (this week and since I'm drawing my own needles now, not getting preloaded syringes from TRT clinic, I'm just pulling to the 0.8 mark instead of guessing what's 0.75 so my weekly dose is creeping up to 160 per shot or 320 per week)
...
Week ~7 or 8 start Anavar 40mg a day
...
Week 13 starting 10/19 - 300mg (last week). I'm running this one out 13 weeks because the timing works well with a vacation I have week 14.

 

[texas.redneck]

@texas.redneck good call on getting the estradiol checked, that will give you peace of mind. I'm waiting on results.

The water swing you described is classic MK677, nothing to stress on since your weight already corrected itself.

Dropping the Gonadorelin is fine, you really don’t need to force it if your body is already handling recovery, just keep it simple.

Your training setup makes sense with the injuries and extra swim and bike work, you’re still getting plenty of volume overall. Once that bicep is good and you shift to the push/legs/pull with less cardio, you’ll be in a perfect spot to really push the bodybuilding side. Just careful, we can do this long term to get to your goals without more injuries.

@LevButlerov Thanks Bro. Good Advice!

I'm super antsy to get back to pullups and rows but I really need to play it slow. What happened was I initially totally wrecked both biceps with doing those 100 pullups kipping style for Murph. (Distal biceps tendinopathy / overuse strain). Like for a week afterwards I could hardly extend my arms fully. So I backed off something like 6 weeks and just did maybe some light lat pull downs. Then I'm feeling like everything is healed, I hop on to do just some dead hang pullups and do like 3 reps and it literally felt like when you stretch out an old dried out rubberband, it felt like my biceps tendon was doing that. And me being a dummy pushed my self through 3 sets. It didn't quite put me back as bad as I was to start with but basically reset the clock on the rehab.

So this time I just stopped everything for straight up 3-4 weeks and i'm easing back in with some rehab exercises like just isometric curl hold at 90 degree with like 8 lbs. some Ecentric lowering, etc.

when I can finally just go full pull days, I'm thinking about just jumping into Jeff Nippards Push/Pull/Leg program https://jeffnippard.com/products/the-pure-bodybuilding-program. And dropping all cardio but my swim technique group class on Wednesday morning (it's like 20 minutes of technique work with 30 minute workout).

 

[LevButlerov]

@LevButlerov Thanks Bro. Good Advice!

I'm super antsy to get back to pullups and rows but I really need to play it slow. What happened was I initially totally wrecked both biceps with doing those 100 pullups kipping style for Murph. (Distal biceps tendinopathy / overuse strain). Like for a week afterwards I could hardly extend my arms fully. So I backed off something like 6 weeks and just did maybe some light lat pull downs. Then I'm feeling like everything is healed, I hop on to do just some dead hang pullups and do like 3 reps and it literally felt like when you stretch out an old dried out rubberband, it felt like my biceps tendon was doing that. And me being a dummy pushed my self through 3 sets. It didn't quite put me back as bad as I was to start with but basically reset the clock on the rehab.

So this time I just stopped everything for straight up 3-4 weeks and i'm easing back in with some rehab exercises like just isometric curl hold at 90 degree with like 8 lbs. some Ecentric lowering, etc.

when I can finally just go full pull days, I'm thinking about just jumping into Jeff Nippards Push/Pull/Leg program https://jeffnippard.com/products/the-pure-bodybuilding-program. And dropping all cardio but my swim technique group class on Wednesday morning (it's like 20 minutes of technique work with 30 minute workout).

@texas.redneck no problem, always here to support you and EVO family here for you

That was smart to shut it all down for a few weeks and actually let the tendon calm down, that’s the only way it really heals. The rubber band feeling you described is classic tendon strain so if you keep it easy with isos and eccentrics you’ll come back solid. Once you’re cleared to go full pull days again, Jeff’s push pull legs program is a good choice because it’s balanced and will build strength without beating up your joints.

Dropping the extra cardio and just keeping the swim class is going to let you recover better and actually put more into your lifts. Just keep ramping slowly and don’t get greedy with pullups early, let the tendon get a few weeks of steady loading before you test it heavy. Though I would keep some cardio pre post training in the game.

 

[texas.redneck]

That was smart to shut it all down for a few weeks and actually let the tendon calm down, that’s the only way it really heals. The rubber band feeling you described is classic tendon strain so if you keep it easy with isos and eccentrics you’ll come back solid. Once you’re cleared to go full pull days again, Jeff’s push pull legs program is a good choice because it’s balanced and will build strength without beating up your joints.

I’m a little worried about getting an injury from being imbalanced since I’m on juice and my program is so heavy on pressing until I can balance it out again. I’m doing rear delt flys, straight arm lat pull downs, band y raises. Basically as much as I can do to hit my upper back without using biceps too much. I’m going to start working in just scapular retractions with straight arms.

 

[LevButlerov]

I’m a little worried about getting an injury from being imbalanced since I’m on juice and my program is so heavy on pressing until I can balance it out again. I’m doing rear delt flys, straight arm lat pull downs, band y raises. Basically as much as I can do to hit my upper back without using biceps too much. I’m going to start working in just scapular retractions with straight arms.

You're right to be worried, always go slow and make sure you really warming up deep. @texas.redneck

 

[texas.redneck]

The water swing you described is classic MK677, nothing to stress on since your weight already corrected itself.

@LevButlerov
I think all those sides subsided. Don’t feel bloated, crazy hunger, etc. it’s been 1 week at 12.5. Should I just hang out at this dose or take it up? Given what you know about me and my cycle.

 

[LevButlerov]

@LevButlerov
I think all those sides subsided. Don’t feel bloated, crazy hunger, etc. it’s been 1 week at 12.5. Should I just hang out at this dose or take it up? Given what you know about me and my cycle.

@texas.redneck if the sides settled down that’s a good sign your body is adjusting. 1 week in there’s no rush to bump the dose, 12.5 already gives you solid benefits over time. Let it ride here for a few more weeks and see how recovery, sleep, and training performance trend. If you’re still making steady progress there’s no reason to push higher yet. Save the increase for when you actually need that extra push later in the cycle.

 

[texas.redneck]

@LevButlerov
Eek. I was not expecting this. See estradiol test below. I'm at 70.1. So I have 4 x 1mg tabs of Anastrozle (Arimidex?) and some Aromasin on order. Should I start with 0.5mg EOD of the Anastrozle? I'd rather have high estrogen than low.

 

[LevButlerov]

@LevButlerov
Eek. I was not expecting this. See estradiol test below. I'm at 70.1. So I have 4 x 1mg tabs of Anastrozle (Arimidex?) and some Aromasin on order. Should I start with 0.5mg EOD of the Anastrozle? I'd rather have high estrogen than low.
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I would start 0.5mgs arimidex EOD for 1 week, when will your aromasin arrive? @texas.redneck

 

[texas.redneck]

I would start 0.5mgs arimidex EOD for 1 week, when will your aromasin arrive? @texas.redneck

After I posted that question, I spent afternoon reading up on it. I'm concerned 0.5mg arimidex EOD might be too much.

I popped a 0.5mg today but I was thinking something like 0.25 E3D or even once a week and see what my next labs show. Do you feel real strongly about me on 0.5 EOD?

I still have PTSD from my first newbie cycle when I just started taking estrogen blockers the first week and tanked my estrogen.

edit: I should have my aromasin by end of next week.

 

[LevButlerov]

After I posted that question, I spent afternoon reading up on it. I'm concerned 0.5mg arimidex EOD might be too much.

I popped a 0.5mg today but I was thinking something like 0.25 E3D or even once a week and see what my next labs show. Do you feel real strongly about me on 0.5 EOD?

0.5mgs eod is fine trust me, it's only for 1 week @texas.redneck

I still have PTSD from my first newbie cycle when I just started taking estrogen blockers the first week and tanked my estrogen.

LOL we all have PTSD from first cycles not just you

edit: I should have my aromasin by end of next week.

Perfect waiting for it.

 

[texas.redneck]

0.5mgs eod is fine trust me, it's only for 1 week @texas.redneck

gotcha. So 1 week 0.5mg EOD to knock my estogen down and then you have some maintenance dose in mind for my aromasin after that?

 

[texas.redneck]

Today 8.23.2025 (end of week 4) @ 205.6 lbs

Start of cycle 7.29.2025 (note my crooked spine) @ 197.4lbs

 

[LevButlerov]

gotcha. So 1 week 0.5mg EOD to knock my estogen down and then you have some maintenance dose in mind for my aromasin after that?

Yes of course after the 1 week we switch to aromasin you have coming and cycle down the dose @texas.redneck

Today 8.23.2025 (end of week 4) @ 205.6 lbs

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Start of cycle 7.29.2025 (note my crooked spine) @ 197.4lbs
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You look good, the recomp is doing well clean
can you throw up more training update please?

 

[stevesmi]

Today 8.23.2025 (end of week 4) @ 205.6 lbs

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Start of cycle 7.29.2025 (note my crooked spine) @ 197.4lbs
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you got a good frame. once you add a few pounds of muscle. and lose a few pounds of fat you will be set @texas.redneck

 

[BodyMonster34]

Today 8.23.2025 (end of week 4) @ 205.6 lbs

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Start of cycle 7.29.2025 (note my crooked spine) @ 197.4lbs
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@texas.redneck bro you need to get on tren. make the man. you supposed to be a true texas redneck like me

 

[2Thick]

Today 8.23.2025 (end of week 4) @ 205.6 lbs

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Start of cycle 7.29.2025 (note my crooked spine) @ 197.4lbs
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good updates man. make sure you set fresh goals going forward. i want to see your abs by winter! @texas.redneck

 

[texas.redneck]

good updates man. make sure you set fresh goals going forward. i want to see your abs by winter! @texas.redneck

Thanks. And we will see about the six pack before winter. Remember I have the half Ironman I signed up for next March. I’ll start the training program for that around thanksgiving and that will lean me out going into spring 2026. So my goal is to reach peak leanness around March 2026 and then coming off that Ironman do another cycle but just stay super lean for that one which will take me into summer 2026.

Edit: so this cycle I guess could be considered bulking for me. And if I did my math right, when this current cycle ends through the Ironman in march is just enough time off cycle to start another one. It will be about as long as this cycle was including the PCT which I believe is the general rule of thumb for time between cycles.

 

[Mobster]

you got a good frame. once you add a few pounds of muscle. and lose a few pounds of fat you will be set @texas.redneck

Absolutely this

 

[ROIDDERS]

Today 8.23.2025 (end of week 4) @ 205.6 lbs

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good picture update man. you stick with us and you take our tips/advice and you will only get bettter. we believe in you! @texas.redneck

 

[ceo]

Today 8.23.2025 (end of week 4) @ 205.6 lbs

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bros this a good base to start i agree. let see how far you can go. i predict some big things @texas.redneck

 

[Ulter]

Today 8.23.2025 (end of week 4) @ 205.6 lbs

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Start of cycle 7.29.2025 (note my crooked spine) @ 197.4lbs
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EVO family is going to get you into the best shape of your life! @texas.redneck let's see how far we can take you. i predict you end up in the best shape of your life

 

[texas.redneck]

I feel my body telling me I need a deload week. I been hitting it really hard for 4 weeks now since I got on testosterone and I went pretty hard the 2-3 weeks before that. So I’m around six to seven weeks. Even though i should start peaking with week 5 of test starting today, I feel that deep down kind of ache in my body after yesterday and today’s lift. That wore out feeling.

I’m thinking I will deload my Upper B day on Tuesday and lower B day on Thursday by cutting sets in half and leaving 3-4 reps in reserve instead of 0-2. I’ll do my Wednesday swim which is technique focused and do a 60 min light cardio cycling on one of the other days. I also think that bicep I have been baby’ing is just about good to go. I pushed it a little more yesterday with lat pull downs and some light eccentric curls.

Then next weekend I’ll start on the Mike Nippard Pull/Push/legs program. Bicep should be good to go, and I can make a Solid 6-7 week run on peak testosterone levels and Anavar.

Any feedback?

 

[LevButlerov]

I feel my body telling me I need a deload week. I been hitting it really hard for 4 weeks now since I got on testosterone and I went pretty hard the 2-3 weeks before that. So I’m around six to seven weeks. Even though i should start peaking with week 5 of test starting today, I feel that deep down kind of ache in my body after yesterday and today’s lift. That wore out feeling.

I’m thinking I will deload my Upper B day on Tuesday and lower B day on Thursday by cutting sets in half and leaving 3-4 reps in reserve instead of 0-2. I’ll do my Wednesday swim which is technique focused and do a 60 min light cardio cycling on one of the other days. I also think that bicep I have been baby’ing is just about good to go. I pushed it a little more yesterday with lat pull downs and some light eccentric curls.

Then next weekend I’ll start on the Mike Nippard Pull/Push/legs program. Bicep should be good to go, and I can make a Solid 6-7 week run on peak testosterone levels and Anavar.

Any feedback?

I think a deload is always good. @texas.redneck I would start with the deload first and go from there.
Feedback? I think you should deload first and we come back to how you feel.

 

[2Thick]

Thanks. And we will see about the six pack before winter. Remember I have the half Ironman I signed up for next March. I’ll start the training program for that around thanksgiving and that will lean me out going into spring 2026. So my goal is to reach peak leanness around March 2026 and then coming off that Ironman do another cycle but just stay super lean for that one which will take me into summer 2026.

Edit: so this cycle I guess could be considered bulking for me. And if I did my math right, when this current cycle ends through the Ironman in march is just enough time off cycle to start another one. It will be about as long as this cycle was including the PCT which I believe is the general rule of thumb for time between cycles.

yeah i guess for that ironman you need a little fat to help your swimming

 

[ballin2504]

Today 8.23.2025 (end of week 4) @ 205.6 lbs

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Start of cycle 7.29.2025 (note my crooked spine) @ 197.4lbs
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@texas.redneck looking really good man. Leaning up nicely

 

[texas.redneck]

yeah i guess for that ironman you need a little fat to help your swimming

I was thinking along the lines of that I need some fat on my bones to burn off so I don't eat into my muscle too much when I turn up the volume of cycling and have to add in two days of running to my training. Also, the race is early in the season, so the swim will be wetsuit legal. Wetsuits really helps buoyancy.

 

[LevButlerov]

I was thinking along the lines of that I need some fat on my bones to burn off so I don't eat into my muscle too much when I turn up the volume of cycling and have to add in two days of running to my training. Also, the race is early in the season, so the swim will be wetsuit legal. Wetsuits really helps buoyancy.

You don't need fat for any swimming or cycling, it's a myth imo

 

[Noah Wixx]

Today 8.23.2025 (end of week 4) @ 205.6 lbs

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Recomp is coming in nicely

 

[2Thick]

I was thinking along the lines of that I need some fat on my bones to burn off so I don't eat into my muscle too much when I turn up the volume of cycling and have to add in two days of running to my training. Also, the race is early in the season, so the swim will be wetsuit legal. Wetsuits really helps buoyancy.

you would have to get super lean to worry about that. like 3%

 

[Tiger Salman Khan]

Today 8.23.2025 (end of week 4) @ 205.6 lbs

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Start of cycle 7.29.2025 (note my crooked spine) @ 197.4lbs
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@texas.redneck looking good man.........

 

[texas.redneck]

Struggling to decide on the right split for the last half of this cycle. I’m going all-in on bodybuilding for the next two months, but I have a few requirements:

1. Wednesday morning swim stays – It’s a technique-focused session: ~20 minutes of drills and ~30 minutes of short sprints. I can drop cycling for now (on a bike not steroids) and catch back up on endurance in November since it doesn’t require the same level of technique.
2. One full rest day each week – Non-negotiable.
3. Saturday and Sunday are always my hardest training days – I don’t have to get up at 5 a.m., and I’m not rushing out early to get to work. I can take my time and hit everything, including calves, abs, whatever. So it doesn’t make much sense for my rest day to land on the weekend.

Originally, I was thinking a 6-day split:
Pull / Push / Legs / Pull / Push / Legs / Rest
But one of those lifting days would have to land on my swim day (Wednesday)—either at lunch or after work. And let’s be honest, whatever body part lands on that day won’t be getting 100% effort after swimming that morning.

After messing around with different ideas, I think one of these two options are going to be best for me:

Option 1 - Synchronous

• Saturday – Upper #1
• Sunday – Lower #1
• Monday – Upper #2
• Tuesday – Lower #2
• Wednesday – Swim
• Thursday – Arms & Weak Points
• Friday – Rest

Option 2 - Asynchronous (this might work well because I will be traveling to watch my son play football on the weekends, so there probably are going to be some saturday or sundays i will just need to make a rest day.

• Saturday – Upper #1
• Sunday – Lower #1
• Monday – Upper #2
• Tuesday – Lower #2
• Wednesday – Swim
• Thursday – Rest
• Friday – Upper #1
• Saturday - Lower #1
• Sunday - Upper #2
• Monday - Lower #2
• Tuesday - rest
• Wednesday - Swim
• Thursday - Upper #1
• ....

 

[LevButlerov]

Originally, I was thinking a 6-day split:
Pull / Push / Legs / Pull / Push / Legs / Rest
But one of those lifting days would have to land on my swim day (Wednesday)—either at lunch or after work. And let’s be honest, whatever body part lands on that day won’t be getting 100% effort after swimming that morning.

Option 2 - Asynchronous (this might work well because I will be traveling to watch my son play football on the weekends, so there probably are going to be some saturday or sundays i will just need to make a rest day.

• Saturday – Upper #1
• Sunday – Lower #1
• Monday – Upper #2
• Tuesday – Lower #2
• Wednesday – Swim
• Thursday – Rest
• Friday – Upper #1
• Saturday - Lower #1
• Sunday - Upper #2
• Monday - Lower #2
• Tuesday - rest
• Wednesday - Swim
• Thursday - Upper #1

Option 2 looks better, you should do bodybuilding but your son and swimming also important

hows your food going?

 

[texas.redneck]

hows your food going?

Food is good. I tightened it up when I started the cycle. For example, Stopped deserts and more diligent about packing my healthy snacks so I don’t raid the junk food in break room at work (healthy snacks = chomps, cheese sticks, protein shake or bar, apples, nuts).

Then for last couple weeks made some small adjustments to dial back my calorie intake, like switched from whole milk to almond milk for my shakes and oatmeal. Eating more oatmeal for breakfast with eggs and sausage instead of bagel or protein waffles, etc. little calorie saving tweaks like that.

Generally speaking, I’m fine with my BF%. My diet is more for recovery and performance. But I am dialing back some calories.

 

[texas.redneck]

Some pics of some more crappy gear I bought before I got back on Evo. I’m using my Pharmaqo Anavar this cycle. I may use this Deus medical Anavar for the next one and the Clomid for PCT. That MK677 will most likely go in the trash. It was before I knew of the greatness of umbrella labs.

 

[LevButlerov]

Food is good. I tightened it up when I started the cycle. For example, Stopped deserts and more diligent about packing my healthy snacks so I don’t raid the junk food in break room at work (healthy snacks = chomps, cheese sticks, protein shake or bar, apples, nuts).

Then for last couple weeks made some small adjustments to dial back my calorie intake, like switched from whole milk to almond milk for my shakes and oatmeal. Eating more oatmeal for breakfast with eggs and sausage instead of bagel or protein waffles, etc. little calorie saving tweaks like that.

Generally speaking, I’m fine with my BF%. My diet is more for recovery and performance. But I am dialing back some calories.

You’re keeping food choices clean and that’s solid, but the issue isn’t really body fat here. What you need is more lean tissue so bumping protein up will make a difference. Right now your calories are dialed back and that’s fine, but you’ve got to make sure recovery is fully supported. Think of it like feeding the muscle, not just cutting calories. If you push protein higher while keeping those smart swaps, you’ll notice better recomp and tighter look over the next few weeks. I do think you have the dedication to even hit the stage one day. @texas.redneck

 

[LevButlerov]

Some pics of some more crappy gear I bought before I got back on Evo. I’m using my Pharmaqo Anavar this cycle. I may use this Deus medical Anavar for the next one and the Clomid for PCT. That MK677 will most likely go in the trash. It was before I knew of the greatness of umbrella labs.

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I see that's mostly Deus Medical gear, I like the fake Chinese boxes though they look good
You should do side by side pics pharmaqo with deus.

 

[texas.redneck]

You’re keeping food choices clean and that’s solid, but the issue isn’t really body fat here. What you need is more lean tissue so bumping protein up will make a difference. Right now your calories are dialed back and that’s fine, but you’ve got to make sure recovery is fully supported. Think of it like feeding the muscle, not just cutting calories. If you push protein higher while keeping those smart swaps, you’ll notice better recomp and tighter look over the next few weeks. I do think you have the dedication to even hit the stage one day. @texas.redneck

Oh yeah I got that. My normal diet is the typical close to 1 gram per bodyweight. 150-200 g for me. And my normal diet I never have a snack or meal without a protein source like I would never just eat an apple without a couple cheese sticks and beef stick or eat a bowl of oatmeal without eggs and protein.

Once I got on cycle, I made a few little tweaks that’s slapping another 50+ grams a day on there like adding an extra egg or sausage link in morning, with a protein shake. Also, working in an extra protein shake during the day and upping protein content on other meals.

 

[LevButlerov]

Oh yeah I got that. My normal diet is the typical close to 1 gram per bodyweight. 150-200 g for me. And my normal diet I never have a snack or meal without a protein source like I would never just eat an apple without a couple cheese sticks and beef stick or eat a bowl of oatmeal without eggs and protein.

Once I got on cycle, I made a few little tweaks that’s slapping another 50+ grams a day on there like adding an extra egg or sausage link in morning, with a protein shake. Also, working in an extra protein shake during the day and upping protein content on other meals.

That’s a solid base and you’re definitely covering the protein side. Since that’s dialed in, I’d look at timing a bit more around training to really push recovery and growth. Try loading a shake or fast protein right after and then a slower digesting source before bed. That way you’re feeding muscle constantly instead of long gaps. Could also play with carb timing to drive those extra grams of protein deeper into recovery. @texas.redneck I think in your situation if you have the time, we should talk carb cycling.

 

[texas.redneck]

I see that's mostly Deus Medical gear, I like the fake Chinese boxes though they look good
You should do side by side pics pharmaqo with deus.

What do you mean about the fake Chinese boxes? I’m pretty sure this is authentic Deus Medical boxes.

Here’s this fwiw:

 

[texas.redneck]

then a slower digesting source before bed.

What do you like for after dinner snack or desert? I’ve been doing some Greek yogurt with berries.

 

[LevButlerov]

What do you mean about the fake Chinese boxes? I’m pretty sure this is authentic Deus Medical boxes.

Here’s this fwiw:
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where did you get the Deus medical? @texas.redneck

 

[LevButlerov]

What do you like for after dinner snack or desert? I’ve been doing some Greek yogurt with berries.

Post dinner, yogurt with berries and walnuts

 

[texas.redneck]

where did you get the Deus medical? @texas.redneck

Just on their website and waited ~3-3.5 weeks for it to get here from some where in Europe. I just got it yesterday and had ordered it prior to any of that other gear I posted pics of on earlier posts.

 

[LevButlerov]

Just on their website and waited ~3-3.5 weeks for it to get here from some where in Europe. I just got it yesterday and had ordered it prior to any of that other gear I posted pics of on earlier posts.

Yes that Deus is shipping by their resellers so counterfeits like like 50/50.