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moreReps21 said:
I can do that, but was going to see how these cals effect my weight. Dont want to gain too fast. You think more is needed?
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I don't think you're gonna gain the wrong kinda weight from 50g extra protein. The way you lift and bumping up the T you're gonna need more protein to fuel that new muscle growth bro. You're building now!
 
BeMe said:
Tell me about it. I'm at 4-5k calories and it's damn expensive lol. Especially when everything is free range or organic.
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I think food is probably the second most expense besides housing, especially for people who bodybuild.
You should do some hunting or fishing though that will help.
 
ROIDDERS said:
I think food is probably the second most expense besides housing, especially for people who bodybuild.
You should do some hunting or fishing though that will help.
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Yea no salt water here and I hate fresh water fish. Not too big on killn anything either lol. Kinda a pussy when it comes to animals.
 
Diet and training for today.

3158 kcal
Protein 252
Carbs 304
Fat 92

Cardio - 30min (3.3mph / 12%incline) - after workout
 

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moreReps21 said:
Diet and training for today.

3158 kcal
Protein 252
Carbs 304
Fat 92

Cardio - 30min (3.3mph / 12%incline) - after workout
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carbs up how do you feel? :D
 
moreReps21 said:
Diet and training for today.

3158 kcal
Protein 252
Carbs 304
Fat 92

Cardio - 30min (3.3mph / 12%incline) - after workout
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The new macros are looking really good. Nice steady increase day to day. Time to grow some muscle!
 
moreReps21 said:
Feels good, its nice to feel abit more satisfied after eating. Easier going from meal to meal. Can feel the pumps getting fuller each workout.
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lets get some pump pics up :D
 
moreReps21 said:
@LevButlerov what are your thoughts on a test only cycle of 400mg for 16 or so weeks? Have been reading about how its a good option when getting into your 1st cycle.
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You gotta figure out your e2 situation first tho. It would be good to have Aromasin on hand too if you wanna go that route. Arimidex can be hard to modulate
 
BeMe said:
You gotta figure out your e2 situation first tho. It would be good to have Aromasin on hand too if you wanna go that route. Arimidex can be hard to modulate
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Ya if doing it like that would have each one just to have the extra option. I sense that id need one or the other fairly soon into that cycle... crazy how you see some get away with it and not need ai at all.
 
moreReps21 said:
Ya if doing it like that would have each one just to have the extra option. I sense that id need one or the other fairly soon into that cycle... crazy how you see some get away with it and not need ai at all.
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Ya all out bodies are very different. Some guys have it even worse than you bro.

I'm running test alone right now at about 250/week and still within range on the high end. Think 300 might be tops for me.

I'm pinning EOD which is supposed to help a bit too.
 
BeMe said:
Ya all out bodies are very different. Some guys have it even worse than you bro.

I'm running test alone right now at about 250/week and still within range on the high end. Think 300 might be tops for me.

I'm pinning EOD which is supposed to help a bit too.
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Ya thats another thing i was debating.. 2x, 3x, eod... so many variables with everything. Did you notice your e2 lower when moving from when you used to do 2x?
 
moreReps21 said:
Ya thats another thing i was debating.. 2x, 3x, eod... so many variables with everything. Did you notice your e2 lower when moving from when you used to do 2x?
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It's hard to say cuz dosages are so different and when I was running 300mg/week I had primo in the mix. I'm just going based off what I've read and seen. It doesn't lower e2 per se but it does smooth things out where you won't get really high peaks. That can make a big difference in how much test you can run right
 
moreReps21 said:
@LevButlerov what are your thoughts on a test only cycle of 400mg for 16 or so weeks? Have been reading about how its a good option when getting into your 1st cycle.
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it's a good option @moreReps21 but @BeMe is right the e2 situation needs to be sorted
if we pump in 400mgs we would need to do at least 2 sets of bloods if not 3 can you do that?
 
moreReps21 said:
Diet and training for today.

3044 kcal
Protein 250
Carbs 280
Fat 91

Cardio - 30min (3.3mph / 12%incline) - after workout
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@moreReps21 nice work man. The macros look really good. Keep it up
 
ROIDDERS said:
yeah its tough man. food costs skyrocketing i think cause of all the tariffs from USA
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Actually a lot of our food is domestic. We pay insane prices because there's only really 4 supermarket conglomerates that control all the prices. During covid they jacked up the prices and then when covid ended the prices never came down. There's been accusations from government officials that these guys are price gouging us. It sucks. Then the smaller health food stores mark their prices according to what the big stores are charging, and the small stores always charge more.
 
LevButlerov said:
it's a good option @moreReps21 but @BeMe is right the e2 situation needs to be sorted
if we pump in 400mgs we would need to do at least 2 sets of bloods if not 3 can you do that?
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ya I'm always able to get my bloodwork, no matter how many times I need it. Don't like to play guessing games with my health.
 
moreReps21 said:
ya I'm always able to get my bloodwork, no matter how many times I need it. Don't like to play guessing games with my health.
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Lets plan it out in that case. we can get base again and add the arimidex
 
moreReps21 said:
ya lets do that, i've also got aromasin on the way. Whatever one you think I should utilize I will.
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I think we should do bloods first and then go with the mods imo
 
moreReps21 said:
i just did bloods on the 120 ive been on, tomorrow was planning on starting ~140mg /week pinned every 3 days. should i run this for few weeks then do the bloods?
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Lets do this, try 150/week for 2 week and we do bloods after :D deal?
 
LevButlerov said:
Lets do this, try 150/week for 2 week and we do bloods after :D deal?
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Would e2 rise that quickly? 2 weeks sounds really short. I know 6 weeks is the standard but I get you're hoping to catch a possible problem before it happens @LevButlerov
 
BeMe said:
Would e2 rise that quickly? 2 weeks sounds really short. I know 6 weeks is the standard but I get you're hoping to catch a possible problem before it happens @LevButlerov
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Not always but with @moreReps21 he has an e2 history, we would be doing it about 2.5 weeks technically should past the 3rd shot @BeMe
 
LevButlerov said:
Not always but with @moreReps21 he has an e2 history, we would be doing it about 2.5 weeks technically should past the 3rd shot @BeMe
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So you're thinking is because he has high aromatization he could be affected sooner? Then because of this you're hoping to catch his E2 on the way up before it gets way too high at say 6 weeks right?
 
LevButlerov said:
Not always but with @moreReps21 he has an e2 history, we would be doing it about 2.5 weeks technically should past the 3rd shot @BeMe
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My plan is to pin every 3 days to help with keeping more stable. Going with .64ml per shot, gets me ~149mg /week average with the 100mg/ml im still using.
 
moreReps21 said:
My plan is to pin every 3 days to help with keeping more stable. Going with .64ml per shot, gets me ~149mg /week average.
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So then you'd want to go 3 days after your 5th shot from the sounds of it? I think @LevButlerov might have assumed you pin once a week when he said after the 3rd shot?

Or if he assumed twice a week then I guess you're going after shot 4
 
BeMe said:
So then you'd want to go 3 days after your 5th shot from the sounds of it? I think @LevButlerov might have assumed you pin once a week when he said after the 3rd shot?
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Ya thats why i was mentioning that, incase he was assuming 1x a week. Want to get more frequent. I think i peak really high when going with the 1 big shot.
 
BeMe said:
Actually a lot of our food is domestic. We pay insane prices because there's only really 4 supermarket conglomerates that control all the prices. During covid they jacked up the prices and then when covid ended the prices never came down. There's been accusations from government officials that these guys are price gouging us. It sucks. Then the smaller health food stores mark their prices according to what the big stores are charging, and the small stores always charge more.
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Yeah, I guess that's true. I guess you can blame the farmers for getting greedy. But if prices go up in the US then they're going to go up in Canada. That's just how the market works.
 
ROIDDERS said:
Yeah, I guess that's true. I guess you can blame the farmers for getting greedy. But if prices go up in the US then they're going to go up in Canada. That's just how the market works.
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Yep. Shits way more expensive up here then down there. It's brutal how much we pay for everyday essentials than you guys. The political opposition love to bring up those facts all the time.
 
moreReps21 said:
Diet and training for today.

3140 kcal
Protein 252
Carbs 300
Fat 92

Cardio - 30min (3.3mph / 12%incline) - after workout
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This new carb level looks good, how are you doing overall?
 
moreReps21 said:
My plan is to pin every 3 days to help with keeping more stable. Going with .64ml per shot, gets me ~149mg /week average with the 100mg/ml im still using.
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can you pin EOD? or not possible?
 
BeMe said:
So you're thinking is because he has high aromatization he could be affected sooner? Then because of this you're hoping to catch his E2 on the way up before it gets way too high at say 6 weeks right?
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It's possible, really hard to say many cases. I want to see @moreReps21 pin more frequent like EOD and we likely need an ai in there @BeMe
 
LevButlerov said:
This new carb level looks good, how are you doing overall?
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everything's going fine, still feel as though i can eat everything i see.. and then some.
LevButlerov said:
can you pin EOD? or not possible?
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It's possible, but ive already pinned my dose for starting on every 3 days, i went from 1x a week for like 7 weeks, then recently(only like 2 pins) went tuesday/saturday. Felt that E3D would be a good frequency where its not too much but not too little. What do you think i should do?
 
moreReps21 said:
everything's going fine, still feel as though i can eat everything i see.. and then some.

It's possible, but ive already pinned my dose for starting on every 3 days, i went from 1x a week for like 7 weeks, then recently(only like 2 pins) went tuesday/saturday. Felt that E3D would be a good frequency where its not too much but not too little. What do you think i should do?
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I think for you EOD is the best in pinning if you can handle it, if not e3d is fine. :D
 
moreReps21 said:
everything's going fine, still feel as though i can eat everything i see.. and then some.

It's possible, but ive already pinned my dose for starting on every 3 days, i went from 1x a week for like 7 weeks, then recently(only like 2 pins) went tuesday/saturday. Felt that E3D would be a good frequency where its not too much but not too little. What do you think i should do?
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How many injection sites are you using right now bro? You're still using the 1" harpoons too right?
 
moreReps21 said:
ya I've got the 25g 1" still, also have a box of unused 27g 5/8 inch slin pins. So far Delt, VG, and standard glutes. I had someone recommend rear delts but haven't thought about trying it out.
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@BeMe which reminds me I went VG today and with the tips + video you and @waggat let me in on, everything went super easy this time so thanks to the both of you for the info!
 
moreReps21 said:
ya I've got the 25g 1" still, also have a box of unused 27g 5/8 inch slin pins. So far Delt, VG, and standard glutes. I had someone recommend rear delts but haven't thought about trying it out.
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delts, bis, tris, lats, glutes :D
we really need our pins site up soon will get to work on it
 
moreReps21 said:
@BeMe which reminds me I went VG today and with the tips + video you and @waggat let me in on, everything went super easy this time so thanks to the both of you for the info!
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No prob bro. Sounds like you got a good amount of sites to rotate and you got all the info. Now it's all in your hands bro. You got this!

Come a long way in just a couple of months eh lol
 
BeMe said:
No prob bro. Sounds like you got a good amount of sites to rotate and you got all the info. Now it's all in your hands bro. You got this!

Come a long way in just a couple of months eh lol
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lol, ya big thanks to the EVO support and wealth of info throughout the forum and others logs. Feels like I learn something new everyday around here..
 
BeMe said:
Yep. Shits way more expensive up here then down there. It's brutal how much we pay for everyday essentials than you guys. The political opposition love to bring up those facts all the time.
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Well, in fairness, you guys do have to import a lot of stuff. You don't have a lot of natural resources. Plus the weather plays a factor in developing neighborhoods and developing towns.
 
ROIDDERS said:
Well, in fairness, you guys do have to import a lot of stuff. You don't have a lot of natural resources. Plus the weather plays a factor in developing neighborhoods and developing towns.
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It's funny how people think we don't have a lot of natural resources when we are the most resource rich country in the world. Canada has far more natural resources than America. Where do you think you guys get your oil, timber, and potash from. Without Canada you guys can't drive, build, or grow. That's why Trump hit us with so many tariffs because you guys need way more from us then we need from you.

I guess the media down there might be reporting it differently but that's really how it is. That's why Trump didn't tariff the oil we sell you guys and one of Canada's plans to cripple you in return is cut off the potash. Without that you're people will starve, and that's why it's been hinted as a last resort.

Canada has everything it needs, we're a giant country, bigger than America. The problem we have is our government regulates the shit outta everything and that drives up prices. That and the fact that we are a country of oligopolies in every major industry. It's always 4 or 5 companies that dominate and price fix every market. We're a lot like Russia that way lol
 
moreReps21 said:
How would you recommend I continue on with EOD, I just pinned the 0.64mL this morning for the E3D pace. Should I wait until Tuesday(when the E3D pin is due) and start with the 0.43mL EOD frequency?
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I would wait until tue and start with .43 eod, easier to track for us @moreReps21
 
moreReps21 said:
Diet for today, rest day so just some cardio.

2769 kcal
Protein 250
Carbs 206
Fat 94

Cardio - 30min (3.3mph / 12%incline)
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moreReps21 said:
Diet and training for today.

3140 kcal
Protein 252
Carbs 300
Fat 92

Cardio - 30min (3.3mph / 12%incline) - after workout
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rest day I'd like to see you drop carbs to 150 next time and have protein at 200 to see how you feel. @moreReps21
the training day is on point! :D
 
BeMe said:
It's funny how people think we don't have a lot of natural resources when we are the most resource rich country in the world. Canada has far more natural resources than America. Where do you think you guys get your oil, timber, and potash from. Without Canada you guys can't drive, build, or grow. That's why Trump hit us with so many tariffs because you guys need way more from us then we need from you.

I guess the media down there might be reporting it differently but that's really how it is. That's why Trump didn't tariff the oil we sell you guys and one of Canada's plans to cripple you in return is cut off the potash. Without that you're people will starve, and that's why it's been hinted as a last resort.

Canada has everything it needs, we're a giant country, bigger than America. The problem we have is our government regulates the shit outta everything and that drives up prices. That and the fact that we are a country of oligopolies in every major industry. It's always 4 or 5 companies that dominate and price fix every market. We're a lot like Russia that way lol
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That's why Canada is our 52 state soon :P lol @BeMe

@HarleyGuy @Bigswaz @Masonic Bodybuilder @VerticallyChallenged @Farmboy
 
moreReps21 said:
Diet and training for today.

3140 kcal
Protein 252
Carbs 300
Fat 92

Cardio - 30min (3.3mph / 12%incline) - after workout
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Bro! I'm coming into this log as the French would say "en retard" meaning how much of a retard have I been to miss this one! A fellow Canadian with an amazing log and running some tight dosages without overdoing it. Your entire regime looks great.

Happy to see you added in BPC I hope it's helping it works best over long periods so I say run it as long as you can afford and and pin it near any injury that pops up including your back at the moment. You're also a lot like me where you eat the same thing pretty much ED and are diligent with your bloods, perfect!

Your week 6 bloods back at the end of September made me laugh out loud at my computer hahahaha. "Doc was unsure of what's going on". Hahaha ya no shit... I didn't scroll ahead to check your follow up bloods but that was CLEARLY a very funny lab mistake that I would have PAID to see your docs face!

You wanted to be at 10% well you definitely had it pretty close to the beginning of October bro, damn, even your upper and lower pecs are separated.

I can't stress enough how impressed I am that you've resisted any urge to go TRT+ too soon and you're doing this all on TRT until you're really in the kind of shape you want to then hit it hard.

Very grateful to have come across this one. Shoot me a DM and let me know where you're at, I'm in Ontario.
 
moreReps21 said:
Diet and training for today.

3140 kcal
Protein 252
Carbs 300
Fat 92

Cardio - 30min (3.3mph / 12%incline) - after workout
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@moreReps21 30 minutes of cardio is very solid after your workout. The heart is a muscle needs to be worked out to people don't even realize that.
 
moreReps21 said:
Diet for today, rest day so just some cardio.

2769 kcal
Protein 250
Carbs 206
Fat 94

Cardio - 30min (3.3mph / 12%incline)
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looking really good on the cardio! and the macros look solid. i like how you are keeping the protein strong @moreReps21
 
HarleyGuy said:
Bro! I'm coming into this log as the French would say "en retard" meaning how much of a retard have I been to miss this one! A fellow Canadian with an amazing log and running some tight dosages without overdoing it. Your entire regime looks great.

Happy to see you added in BPC I hope it's helping it works best over long periods so I say run it as long as you can afford and and pin it near any injury that pops up including your back at the moment. You're also a lot like me where you eat the same thing pretty much ED and are diligent with your bloods, perfect!

Your week 6 bloods back at the end of September made me laugh out loud at my computer hahahaha. "Doc was unsure of what's going on". Hahaha ya no shit... I didn't scroll ahead to check your follow up bloods but that was CLEARLY a very funny lab mistake that I would have PAID to see your docs face!

You wanted to be at 10% well you definitely had it pretty close to the beginning of October bro, damn, even your upper and lower pecs are separated.

I can't stress enough how impressed I am that you've resisted any urge to go TRT+ too soon and you're doing this all on TRT until you're really in the kind of shape you want to then hit it hard.

Very grateful to have come across this one. Shoot me a DM and let me know where you're at, I'm in Ontario.
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Welcome in! And thanks for this post, I appreciate that.

Haha.. the doc didn't say anything directly, but she had mentioned anabolics and overdosing the prescribed amount. Pretty sure she was assuming I was dabbling in something other than the 120mg. I couldn't help but laugh during the consult which probably didn't help.
 
moreReps21 said:
Welcome in! And thanks for this post, I appreciate that.

Haha.. the doc didn't say anything directly, but she had mentioned anabolics and overdosing the prescribed amount. Pretty sure she was assuming I was dabbling in something other than the 120mg. I couldn't help but laugh during the consult which probably didn't help.
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bros you should be honest with doctor. @moreReps21 this way they know what is going on. you don't want them to get confused with bloods right?
 
BeMe said:
It's funny how people think we don't have a lot of natural resources when we are the most resource rich country in the world. Canada has far more natural resources than America. Where do you think you guys get your oil, timber, and potash from. Without Canada you guys can't drive, build, or grow. That's why Trump hit us with so many tariffs because you guys need way more from us then we need from you.

I guess the media down there might be reporting it differently but that's really how it is. That's why Trump didn't tariff the oil we sell you guys and one of Canada's plans to cripple you in return is cut off the potash. Without that you're people will starve, and that's why it's been hinted as a last resort.

Canada has everything it needs, we're a giant country, bigger than America. The problem we have is our government regulates the shit outta everything and that drives up prices. That and the fact that we are a country of oligopolies in every major industry. It's always 4 or 5 companies that dominate and price fix every market. We're a lot like Russia that way lol
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very true stuff man.
 
moreReps21 said:
Diet and training for today.

3140 kcal
Protein 252
Carbs 300
Fat 92

Cardio - 30min (3.3mph / 12%incline) - after workout
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@moreReps21 looking forward to seeing some nice cardio. the protein and carbs is alright! keep the fats strong if you react well
 
ceo said:
bros you should be honest with doctor. @moreReps21 this way they know what is going on. you don't want them to get confused with bloods right?
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Of course, i have been following everything that was laid out by her. Didnt do anything different. Thats why it was funny to me that it came back all out of whack. I wouldnt lie or hold back, what good would that do.
 
moreReps21 said:
Of course, i have been following everything that was laid out by her. Didnt do anything different. Thats why it was funny to me that it came back all out of whack. I wouldnt lie or hold back, what good would that do.
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bros yeah that smart
 
moreReps21 said:
Of course, i have been following everything that was laid out by her. Didnt do anything different. Thats why it was funny to me that it came back all out of whack. I wouldnt lie or hold back, what good would that do.
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Are you still going to that clinic?
 
moreReps21 said:
150 carbs will do, did you mean 300 protein? Or you want both to be dropped?
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Actually exactly that, 150mgs crabs 200 grams protein 1 rest day lets see if we can modulate your intake :D @moreReps21
 
moreReps21 said:
technically ya I'm still with them, only for the reason of getting another top up of the test. will save that one for if something comes up and need it. once i get it im ending it.
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Yea forget them. Just get your test from @Fusion Canada

It's 30% cheaper than the pharma stuff and just as good. My last bloods came back at almost 1700 free running 250/week of the Nordic fusion test cyp 200
 
BeMe said:
Yea forget them. Just get your test from @Fusion Canada

It's 30% cheaper than the pharma stuff and just as good. My last bloods came back at almost 1700 free running 250/week of the Nordic fusion test cyp 200
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Have already stocked up on some of their stuff. Good to hear its working well. Im due for another top-up before my monthly payment, so might aswell do that. If for some reason they try and hold off till after the payment im going to just end it anyways.
 
moreReps21 said:
Have already stocked up on some of their stuff. Good to hear its working well. Im due for another top-up before my monthly payment, so might aswell do that. If for some reason they try and hold off till after the payment im going to just end it anyways.
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Might as well. You were getting cyp from your clinic right? I remember seeing one person who was getting pharma in Canada. The rest of us have been on the E for a while cuz the cyp disappeared.
 
moreReps21 said:
Diet and training for today.

3138 kcal
Protein 252
Carbs 300
Fat 92

Cardio - 30min (3.3mph / 12%incline) - after workout
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Good day again :D
 
moreReps21 said:
Diet and training for today.

3138 kcal
Protein 252
Carbs 300
Fat 92

Cardio - 30min (3.3mph / 12%incline) - after workout
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You kill it with the consistency. Looking forward to progress shots in a few weeks. Reppn Tdot well bro! We should put you in next game haha
 
moreReps21 said:
Diet and training for today.

3138 kcal
Protein 252
Carbs 300
Fat 92

Cardio - 30min (3.3mph / 12%incline) - after workout
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Good training day and cardio! I like you are keeping carbs 300, can you boost protein to 270 now? @moreReps21
 
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