Approved Log My Testosterone Retatrutide cutting Log with UGL OZ

[Flyingandrei]

update us @Flyingandrei

Will do. Had last night off and i will tonight also and fast with water only so i can do bloodwork tomorrow. Remember last time Lev and i did hardcore workouts before my bloods and they came back off .

Ive dropped another half a kg+ i was going to post it but thought id wait till it drops further.

 

[LevButlerov]

Will do. Had last night off and i will tonight also and fast with water only so i can do bloodwork tomorrow. Remember last time Lev and i did hardcore workouts before my bloods and they came back off .

Ive dropped another half a kg+ i was going to post it but thought id wait till it drops further.

good you're dropping EVO family here for you @Flyingandrei

 

[Flyingandrei]

good you're dropping EVO family here for you @Flyingandrei

Calorie deficit. Not dropping, not in a calorie deficit and metabolisms adjusted. Simple.

Im gona start adding 30mins fasted cardio next week i forgot ive got a walking pad at home

 

[R.AP]

Cheers! Ive only ever had 2mg-2.5mg never needed more. I coach my mate on it and hes on 4mg. Hes lost over 10kg in the last few weeks. No cardio or nothing.

Mate that's awesome, I never went above 3.3mg and it was awesome but I know some who get smashed with digestive issues, pain, bloating and nausea with as little as 0.5mg

 

[Flyingandrei]

Mate that's awesome, I never went above 3.3mg and it was awesome but I know some who get smashed with digestive issues, pain, bloating and nausea with as little as 0.5mg

Thats hectic hey! The only thing i get is it dosent make me crave any food and i get full quicky

 

[LevButlerov]

Calorie deficit. Not dropping, not in a calorie deficit and metabolisms adjusted. Simple.

Im gona start adding 30mins fasted cardio next week i forgot ive got a walking pad at home

good add some fasted cardio, lets do this @Flyingandrei

 

[Flyingandrei]

good add some fasted cardio, lets do this @Flyingandrei

Bloods done. Just waiting for results via email

 

[LevButlerov]

Bloods done. Just waiting for results via email

waiting

 

[Flyingandrei]

waiting

I reckon estrogen maybe high. Ive got zero symptoms of gyno throughout my test cycles. No itchy or sore nip. Nothing.

 

[LevButlerov]

I reckon estrogen maybe high. Ive got zero symptoms of gyno throughout my test cycles. No itchy or sore nip. Nothing.

lets not guess

 

[Flyingandrei]

lets not guess

Ill be going back through my in depth bloodwork lectures from my courses this weekend so can interpret it better and faster lol.

 

[LevButlerov]

Ill be going back through my in depth bloodwork lectures from my courses this weekend so can interpret it better and faster lol.

we are going to open a blood work sub on EVO soon @Flyingandrei it will be easier than inside logs because I see even I miss bloods
i feel bad someone posts bloods and they get lost in training talk and I miss it

@BeMe

 

[Flyingandrei]

Weight update

Fasted

104.2kg

 

[LevButlerov]

Weight update

Fasted

104.2kg

104 good weight

 

[Flyingandrei]

104 good weight

Still early days better than this. I felt too skinny as a natural like this

 

[Flyingandrei]

I want this but less bodyfat. Going to take some serious effort

 

[LevButlerov]

Still early days better than this. I felt too skinny as a natural like this

I want this but less bodyfat. Going to take some serious effort

You will get there 1 step at a time

 

[Flyingandrei]

If anyones interested this is the official bloodwork lecture. From John Jewett J3 University course.

LAB WORK



Every 3 months BLOODWORK.

PRE BLAST and POST BLAST.
8 - 10 hour fast.
No exercise 48 hours prior to testing.
Get hydration 40 - 60oz fluid prior to test.

Lab work to Assess

Comprehensive Metabolic Panel (CMP)

(electrolytes, BUN, creatinine, Glucose, albumin, total protein and bilirubin, ALT, AST, ALP, Calcium).


Complete Blood Count (CBC)

(hemoglobin, RBC, Hematocrit, WBC and differential, Platelet Count)



Lipid Profile:

(LDL, HDL, total cholesterol, Triglycerides) Thyroid Panel: TSH, FT4, FT3, Reverse T3



Hormone Panel:

Testosterone total, Estradiol, SHBG Female: DHEA-S, Progesterone


Additional Add on:

Serum 25 OH Vitamin D Fasting Serum Insulin Hemoglobin A1C C-Reactive Protein

GGT
Cystatin-C
Prostate Specific Antigen


Cardiovascular Testing


Cardiac CT Calcium Score

X ray of chest to determine level of calcified plaque in coronary arteries

Calcium score is generated and is prognostic tool for cardiovascular event risk

Benefit: convenient and noninvasive evaluation of heart attack risk Young individuals might still be at risk even with a low calcium score


Echocardiogram

Ultrasound to map shape and function of heart

Can check cardiac size, wall thickness, pumping ability, proper valve function.

Noninvasive

Blood Pressure Self Monitoring


High blood pressure is a silent killer for bodybuilders.


High body weights and increased PED usage drive up blood pressure


Increased risk of Heart attack/stoke, heart failure, kidney failure


Normal Blood Pressure: below 120/80mmHg

Elevated Blood Pressure: systolic 120 to 129mmHg, diastolic <80mmHg

Stage 1 Hypertension: systolic 130-139 mmHg, diastolic 80-89 mmHg Stage 2 Hypertension: systolic >140mmHg, diastolic >90mmHg

Monitor every other week

LifeSource Upper Arm Blood Pressure Monitor with Extra Large Cuff

Blood Glucose Self Monitoring

Natural athletes monitor glucose and A1c on lab work 1-2 per year


Might be useful if suspect of adrenal issues


Enhanced athletes using HGH and insulin need to monitor weekly


Chronically elevated blood glucose can lead to insulin resistance and Diabetes.


Blood glucose trending upward leads to inflammation, poor gut health and nutrient uptake, increased visceral fat gain, poor nutrient partitioning.


Fasting Blood Glucose

Taken first thing AM after 20-30oz water, ensure good sleep prior Normal: 70-99mg/dl
Diabetes: >126mg/dl
Optimal: <90mg/dl

Glucometer and testing strips available at any pharmacy

Resources

Llewellyn W. Anabolics. Jupiter, FL: Molecular Nutrition LLC; 2017.

Mastenbjork M., Meloni S. Lab Values 2nd edition. David Anderson; 2018.

 

[LevButlerov]

If anyones interested this is the official bloodwork lecture. From John Jewett J3 University course.

LAB WORK



Every 3 months BLOODWORK.

PRE BLAST and POST BLAST.
8 - 10 hour fast.
No exercise 48 hours prior to testing.
Get hydration 40 - 60oz fluid prior to test.

Lab work to Assess

Comprehensive Metabolic Panel (CMP)

(electrolytes, BUN, creatinine, Glucose, albumin, total protein and bilirubin, ALT, AST, ALP, Calcium).


Complete Blood Count (CBC)

(hemoglobin, RBC, Hematocrit, WBC and differential, Platelet Count)



Lipid Profile:

(LDL, HDL, total cholesterol, Triglycerides) Thyroid Panel: TSH, FT4, FT3, Reverse T3



Hormone Panel:

Testosterone total, Estradiol, SHBG Female: DHEA-S, Progesterone


Additional Add on:

Serum 25 OH Vitamin D Fasting Serum Insulin Hemoglobin A1C C-Reactive Protein

GGT
Cystatin-C
Prostate Specific Antigen


Cardiovascular Testing


Cardiac CT Calcium Score

X ray of chest to determine level of calcified plaque in coronary arteries

Calcium score is generated and is prognostic tool for cardiovascular event risk

Benefit: convenient and noninvasive evaluation of heart attack risk Young individuals might still be at risk even with a low calcium score


Echocardiogram

Ultrasound to map shape and function of heart

Can check cardiac size, wall thickness, pumping ability, proper valve function.

Noninvasive

Blood Pressure Self Monitoring


High blood pressure is a silent killer for bodybuilders.


High body weights and increased PED usage drive up blood pressure


Increased risk of Heart attack/stoke, heart failure, kidney failure


Normal Blood Pressure: below 120/80mmHg

Elevated Blood Pressure: systolic 120 to 129mmHg, diastolic <80mmHg

Stage 1 Hypertension: systolic 130-139 mmHg, diastolic 80-89 mmHg Stage 2 Hypertension: systolic >140mmHg, diastolic >90mmHg

Monitor every other week

LifeSource Upper Arm Blood Pressure Monitor with Extra Large Cuff

Blood Glucose Self Monitoring

Natural athletes monitor glucose and A1c on lab work 1-2 per year


Might be useful if suspect of adrenal issues


Enhanced athletes using HGH and insulin need to monitor weekly


Chronically elevated blood glucose can lead to insulin resistance and Diabetes.


Blood glucose trending upward leads to inflammation, poor gut health and nutrient uptake, increased visceral fat gain, poor nutrient partitioning.


Fasting Blood Glucose

Taken first thing AM after 20-30oz water, ensure good sleep prior Normal: 70-99mg/dl
Diabetes: >126mg/dl
Optimal: <90mg/dl

Glucometer and testing strips available at any pharmacy

Resources

Llewellyn W. Anabolics. Jupiter, FL: Molecular Nutrition LLC; 2017.

Mastenbjork M., Meloni S. Lab Values 2nd edition. David Anderson; 2018.

can you post the actual results with ranges? @Flyingandrei

 

[Flyingandrei]

can you post the actual results with ranges? @Flyingandrei

What results. Thats a lecture of what bloods are about from my course lol. I literally got bloodwork emailed in.

Posting the results next 30mins. Ill collage and show the last bloods vs new bloods after for each test.

 

[LevButlerov]

What results. Thats a lecture of what bloods are about from my course lol. I literally got bloodwork emailed in.

Posting the results next 30mins. Ill collage and show the last bloods vs new bloods after for each test.

Yes the one you just got mailed in

 

[Flyingandrei]

Yes the one you just got mailed in

Like i told ya E2 is sky high

 

[Flyingandrei]

Yes the one you just got mailed in

Bloods are decent but E2 is high 400+. I have no symptoms of gyno. No sore nipples nothing. I feel better than last time.

 

[LevButlerov]

Bloods are decent but E2 is high 400+. I have no symptoms of gyno. No sore nipples nothing. I feel better than last time.

ignoring the other parts of the bloods, the e2 level is VERY high! @Flyingandrei
restate your cycle please all of it everything you too last 2 weeks before the test

 

[Flyingandrei]

ignoring the other parts of the bloods, the e2 level is VERY high! @Flyingandrei
restate your cycle please all of it everything you too last 2 weeks before the test

It was still high on 250mg

 

[Flyingandrei]

ignoring the other parts of the bloods, the e2 level is VERY high! @Flyingandrei
restate your cycle please all of it everything you too last 2 weeks before the test

Aromasin?

 

[Flyingandrei]

ignoring the other parts of the bloods, the e2 level is VERY high! @Flyingandrei
restate your cycle please all of it everything you too last 2 weeks before the test

Why not add Eq?

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[LevButlerov]

Why not add Eq?

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we dont have ig here it's blocked
and right now you need direct e2 intervention not playing with estrogen control with EQ
ai would hit the e2 number right away without messing with other numbers @Flyingandrei

 

[Flyingandrei]

we dont have ig here it's blocked
and right now you need direct e2 intervention not playing with estrogen control with EQ
ai would hit the e2 number right away without messing with other numbers @Flyingandrei

How much aromasin to start on?

 

[LevButlerov]

Aromasin?

yes aromasin

 

[LevButlerov]

It was still high on 250mg

Yes I understand

 

[Flyingandrei]

yes aromasin

What dose ? I seen people saying 25mg or 12.5 Also watched this was great.

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[Flyingandrei]

Thanks @dylangemelli

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[LevButlerov]

What dose ? I seen people saying 25mg or 12.5 Also watched this was great.

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I can't comment on others because so much info on and off @Flyingandrei
but factually start aromasin 12.5mgs EOD now dont wait

 

[Flyingandrei]

I can't comment on others because so much info on and off @Flyingandrei
but factually start aromasin 12.5mgs EOD now dont wait

Its ok i do see why and learned Its because theres no straight answer as everyone's different. Definitely not doing 25mg im not crashing my estrogen. 12.5 it is.

Can you answer this. Why is mostly all the néw bodybuilder influences saying no to a.i and beggining to use Eq?

 

[LevButlerov]

Its ok i do see why and learned Its because theres no straight answer as everyone's different. Definitely not doing 25mg im not crashing my estrogen. 12.5 it is.

Can you answer this. Why is mostly all the néw bodybuilder influences saying no to a.i and beggining to use Eq?

I cant comment on why they give misinformation lol @Flyingandrei
an Ai is better than eq for managing e2 because eq does not lower estradiol and the idea that it somehow “balances” hormones is wrong.
Eq takes months to build in the blood and needs constant hematocrit checks while a small ai dose fixes high e2 within days/weeks and is predictable.

 

[CypherOCE]

I cant comment on why they give misinformation lol @Flyingandrei
an Ai is better than eq for managing e2 because eq does not lower estradiol and the idea that it somehow “balances” hormones is wrong.
Eq takes months to build in the blood and needs constant hematocrit checks while a small ai dose fixes high e2 within days/weeks and is predictable.

Normally I’d tend to agree with you, however, in this case I wouldn’t

We have plenty of evidence in logs that EQ does manage e2 and those effects on blood thickness are overstated.

Also, EQ is roughly 4-6 weeks kick in not “months” would an AI be handy? sure. But it has no anabolix properties whereas EQ does this making it the superior choice IMO

 

[Flyingandrei]

Normally I’d tend to agree with you, however, in this case I wouldn’t

We have plenty of evidence in logs that EQ does manage e2 and those effects on blood thickness are overstated.

Also, EQ is roughly 4-6 weeks kick in not “months” would an AI be handy? sure. But it has no anabolix properties whereas EQ does this making it the superior choice IMO

This is what i was talking about and all the latest videos since mast and primo raws aren't available as frequently as they were.

The coaches are now Saying why use an a.i when its not anabolic. Just throwing it out there. If anyone wants to chime in. Chime away and educate us.

 

[LevButlerov]

Normally I’d tend to agree with you, however, in this case I wouldn’t

We have plenty of evidence in logs that EQ does manage e2 and those effects on blood thickness are overstated.

Also, EQ is roughly 4-6 weeks kick in not “months” would an AI be handy? sure. But it has no anabolix properties whereas EQ does this making it the superior choice IMO

In high e2 situations you want fast control and that is always better with an AI because it drops estrogen within days while EQ takes weeks before any effect shows. EQ might have some mild impact later but it is not reliable for short term management so an AI is the safer choice until levels settle. @CypherOCE
generally speaking I do agree with you on EQ but for @Flyingandrei specific case he needs an ai

This is what i was talking about and all the latest videos since mast and primo raws aren't available as frequently as they were.

The coaches are now Saying why use an a.i when its not anabolic. Just throwing it out there. If anyone wants to chime in. Chime away and educate us.

 

[Flyingandrei]

In high e2 situations you want fast control and that is always better with an AI because it drops estrogen within days while EQ takes weeks before any effect shows. EQ might have some mild impact later but it is not reliable for short term management so an AI is the safer choice until levels settle. @CypherOCE
generally speaking I do agree with you on EQ but for @Flyingandrei specific case he needs an ai

Makes sense. I wana take eq next when its lower. I started half a tab today which is 12.5 as its 25mg pill.

Im going to keep the 300 dose and get bloods in 2 - 3 weeks as when i was on 250 it was almost just as high anyway.

 

[LevButlerov]

Makes sense. I wana take eq next when its lower. I started half a tab today which is 12.5 as its 25mg pill.

Im going to keep the 300 dose and get bloods in 2 - 3 weeks as when i was on 250 it was almost just as high anyway.

lets do it

 

[Flyingandrei]

Lol just arrived @HarleyGuy

 

[HarleyGuy]

Lol just arrived @HarleyGuy

Fuck ya it’s party time! In two weeks you’ll be busting loads like a porn star!

 

[LevButlerov]

Lol just arrived @HarleyGuy

HCGenerate touchdown look amazing @Flyingandrei

@BeMe @HarleyGuy @vanlife_gymbum @s.gentz
@Allupfromhere @Pigsy @Dreamer @Freki @R.AP

 

[Dreamer]

Lol just arrived @HarleyGuy

Nice touchdown man, youll have your balls back

 

[Allupfromhere]

Lol just arrived @HarleyGuy

Was the total expensive to get it over here brother? Nice touchdown too! N2BM making its way to Aus

 

[Flyingandrei]

Was the total expensive to get it over here brother? Nice touchdown too! N2BM making its way to Aus

Yeah bro it was pretty expensive lol. Took a couple weeks.

$198 Aud

 

[Flyingandrei]

Was the total expensive to get it over here brother? Nice touchdown too! N2BM making its way to Aus

I will test it and say how it goes lol. I never paid for it my mate did for me helping him do his tax

 

[HarleyGuy]

Yeah bro it was pretty expensive lol. Took a couple weeks.

$198 Aud

For me it's just north of $200 CDN as well but well worth it. Think of what we spend on gear and supps and red meat these days, so to me this is a no-brainer.

 

[Flyingandrei]

For me it's just north of $200 CDN as well but well worth it. Think of what we spend on gear and supps and red meat these days, so to me this is a no-brainer.

Yeah ill log how it goes for sure. If its trash I'll definitely be saying

 

[HarleyGuy]

Yeah ill log how it goes for sure. If its trash I'll definitely be saying

Oh I know you will LOL!

If it's any reassurance I noticed after a few weeks my balls were huge (comparatively) and, literally, my loads were twice the size!

 

[R.AP]

Hey Evo fams i thought I'd start a seperate log for my reta use.

Start date 23/07/25.
2.5ml Bac water
5mg Reta

Week 1 dose 1mg.

I was advised to take 2mg but my body is usually very sensitive to things. I went with my instinct and sure enough...

After injecting a had a few hours nap and woke up super dehydrated. I don't feel as hungry lol. I will be doing occasional fasts on my reta cycle too. And upping the dossages dependant on the feedback i am getting.

Total gear
250mg test @UGL OZ
Retatrutide from @ZenithHealth

My scales have gone flat so I need to get a battery asap and update scale weight. Last time i checked i was around 21% bodyfat.
Goal is 12% as I want to add more test and possibly masteron / tren and shred up for summer.

Latest picture.

Kicking off at 1mg was a smart move bro - Reta is brilliant but has trashed a few peoples digestion and given some I know a really hard time. How's it feeling so far?

 

[Flyingandrei]

Kicking off at 1mg was a smart move bro - Reta is brilliant but has trashed a few peoples digestion and given some I know a really hard time. How's it feeling so far?

Yeah bro im more of a start low and see how the body reacts type of perosn. Im on 2ish mg now.

It just pretty much makes cutting easy. Like i dont crave any food. On 2300 at 104kgs Is pretty easy. I reckon natty id be starving lol and craving.

I've had no other side affects

 

[Flyingandrei]

Update

 

[LevButlerov]

Update

Good weight but dont worry about weight worry about how you feel @Flyingandrei

 

[Flyingandrei]

Good weight but dont worry about weight worry about how you feel @Flyingandrei

I've told you before bro. Remember i have gone through my own studies lol. All that matters is a calorie deficit at this point.

Worrying about how i feel isn't going to strip bodyfat lol. Its not even that complicated most make it out to be

 

[LevButlerov]

I've told you before bro. Remember i have gone through my own studies lol. All that matters is a calorie deficit at this point.

Worrying about how i feel isn't going to strip bodyfat lol. Its not even that complicated most make it out to be

I know you told me but I wanted to tell you what I told you before, weight dont matter its the food and look @Flyingandrei

 

[Flyingandrei]

Good weight but dont worry about weight worry about how you feel @Flyingandrei

One other factor. Body fat percent. No ones looking good and going off feel and look at 30%+ body fat lol. Cant even see jack till sub 15 if that

 

[LevButlerov]

One other factor. Body fat percent. No ones looking good and going off feel and look at 30%+ body fat lol. Cant even see jack till sub 15 if that

You will get shredded dont worry

 

[Flyingandrei]

You will get shredded dont worry

I'm definitely not worried lol

 

[LevButlerov]

I'm definitely not worried lol

good

 

[Flyingandrei]

good

Extra good

 

[LevButlerov]

Extra good

extra + good lol

 

[Flyingandrei]

extra + good lol

extra + good + extra good of extra goodness

 

[LevButlerov]

extra + good + extra good of extra goodness

extra pump

 

[Flyingandrei]

Stock up almost complete. Order come in quick and sharp as usual @UGL OZ Support Rep.

Hoping the raws pickup so i can add some var and mast to this in the future.

 

[LevButlerov]

Stock up almost complete. Order come in quick and sharp as usual @UGL OZ Support Rep.

Hoping the raws pickup so i can add some var and mast to this in the future.

Beautiful TD for Team UGL OZ @Flyingandrei
clean platinum @UGL OZ @UGL OZ Support Rep

 

[hypogaeum]

If you're implying something about his picture, that's inappropriate. @hypogaeum
he's doing best he can @Flyingandrei and we dont judge in the EVO family, we only support
dont post in his log again please, I dont want to be forced to take negative action against your account.

Sorry, I should have been more clear. My concern was relating to what we commonly see as far as higher body fat individuals aromatising more than someone that is lean. So in a lot of cases, it's better to have test at a level where it doesn't put E2 massively out of range, but keeps them at the high end of the reference range (and preserves/ helps build muscle) while they lose body fat.

And looking at the bloodwork, it looks like the E2 is higher than most of us would be comfortable with. I'm very much on board with your suggestion to at least utilise an AI (rather than adding in another compound in the form of EQ to try and manage it), or possibly @Flyingandrei could revisit my poorly presented hint which would be to simply use less test until he is at a body fat that justifies higher dosages.

EQ in theory could work, but it's pretty varied as far as how each user reacts to it, and the bottom line is that there simply isn't a need for more anabolic load at this point. No need to try out-drug side effects/ poor diet/ poor discipline/ poor training (that's a general statement, not aimed at @Flyingandrei) when there isn't a deadline putting massive time pressure on.

 

[LevButlerov]

Sorry, I should have been more clear. My concern was relating to what we commonly see as far as higher body fat individuals aromatising more than someone that is lean. So in a lot of cases, it's better to have test at a level where it doesn't put E2 massively out of range, but keeps them at the high end of the reference range (and preserves/ helps build muscle) while they lose body fat.

And looking at the bloodwork, it looks like the E2 is higher than most of us would be comfortable with. I'm very much on board with your suggestion to at least utilise an AI (rather than adding in another compound in the form of EQ to try and manage it), or possibly @Flyingandrei could revisit my poorly presented hint which would be to simply use less test until he is at a body fat that justifies higher dosages.

EQ in theory could work, but it's pretty varied as far as how each user reacts to it, and the bottom line is that there simply isn't a need for more anabolic load at this point. No need to try out-drug side effects/ poor diet/ poor discipline/ poor training (that's a general statement, not aimed at @Flyingandrei) when there isn't a deadline putting massive time pressure on.

thanks for clarification @hypogaeum
I hope @Flyingandrei updates us more

 

[Flyingandrei]

Sorry, I should have been more clear. My concern was relating to what we commonly see as far as higher body fat individuals aromatising more than someone that is lean. So in a lot of cases, it's better to have test at a level where it doesn't put E2 massively out of range, but keeps them at the high end of the reference range (and preserves/ helps build muscle) while they lose body fat.

And looking at the bloodwork, it looks like the E2 is higher than most of us would be comfortable with. I'm very much on board with your suggestion to at least utilise an AI (rather than adding in another compound in the form of EQ to try and manage it), or possibly @Flyingandrei could revisit my poorly presented hint which would be to simply use less test until he is at a body fat that justifies higher dosages.

EQ in theory could work, but it's pretty varied as far as how each user reacts to it, and the bottom line is that there simply isn't a need for more anabolic load at this point. No need to try out-drug side effects/ poor diet/ poor discipline/ poor training (that's a general statement, not aimed at @Flyingandrei) when there isn't a deadline putting massive time pressure on.

Don't be sorry. Your information is always A1 and within best interests. Honestlyall jokes aside i felt like absolute dogshit on 200-250 i feel way better on 300.

I have brought my body fat down futher and dropped 8kg and cleaned up the diet. I am happy to monitor the side affects i am having and titrate down if need be.

I will get blood work next week to see estrogen levels at 300 test a week and 2x aromasin (1 pill cut in half) and if its good i will stay at this. Yes estrogen was high but i had no gyno symptoms no sore nipples nothing.

Thanks for your input @hypogaeum your advice dosent always go unnoticed and I always appreciate your input.

 

[Flyingandrei]

thanks for clarification @hypogaeum
I hope @Flyingandrei updates us more

This is today @LevButlerov much leaner. Carb cycling.

 

[LevButlerov]

This is today @LevButlerov much leaner. Carb cycling.

Looking really good, leaning out @Flyingandrei stay pumped!


@BeMe @HarleyGuy @vanlife_gymbum @s.gentz
@Allupfromhere @Pigsy @Dreamer @Freki @R.AP
@waggat @Yuri @rizzlekdizzle @Grumpy

@toddthelineman @Madmax46

 

[HarleyGuy]

This is today @LevButlerov much leaner. Carb cycling.

It's the @Flyingandrei flying through and teasing us with his new lean look! Nice bro! Check your DM's LOL.

 

[Dreamer]

This is today @LevButlerov much leaner. Carb cycling.

Looking good mate, well done

 

[Flyingandrei]

Looking good mate, well done

Thanks mate. Early days. Hopefully hit 100kg or less with less body fat % by xmas

 

[Flyingandrei]

It's the @Flyingandrei flying through and teasing us with his new lean look! Nice bro! Check your DM's LOL.

This is just the start

 

[Dreamer]

Thanks mate. Early days. Hopefully hit 100kg or less with less body fat % by xmas

Still a month to go mate, alot can change

 

[Flyingandrei]

Still a month to go mate, alot can change

Definitely

 

[hypogaeum]

Honestlyall jokes aside i felt like absolute dogshit on 200-250 i feel way better on 300.

I'd be drilling in to see what the issues were in the bloodwork or diet or training at the previous dose (before reaching for more gear and an AI), but that's just me. Could be something as simple as poor sleep or food timing/ selection or CNS strain causing you to feel shit, so out drugging an underlying issue could end up causing more problems. I'm guilty of making the same mistakes and it's only since working with a coach and realising that I can feel awesome and make progress on way less gear than I was using previously that I pay a bit more attention to this kind of thing.

 

[Flyingandrei]

I'd be drilling in to see what the issues were in the bloodwork or diet or training at the previous dose (before reaching for more gear and an AI), but that's just me. Could be something as simple as poor sleep or food timing/ selection or CNS strain causing you to feel shit, so out drugging an underlying issue could end up causing more problems. I'm guilty of making the same mistakes and it's only since working with a coach and realising that I can feel awesome and make progress on way less gear than I was using previously that I pay a bit more attention to this kind of thing.

Awesome response mate!!!! A1! Yep i am going to rule it out. Ill get bloods next week to check estrogen. Wanted to wait a few weeks before checking. In the mean time im still losing bodyfat and weight and no symptoms of anything from taking aromasin. Just waitinf for bloods now. If it comes back e2 still high ill drop to 250-200 and test bloods again