Growth Hormone Blood Anomolies

[Peshay]

First time using GH. Baseline (no Exogenous GH) GH blood result:

Three weeks 1iu per day pre sleep for 3 weeks 2iu pre sleep for 4 days. Morning of blood Test 2iu, bloods drawn 2.5 hrs later fasted.

Would appear from results GH subcutaneous injection is increasing GH levels. Great.

But don’t IGF results look a bit strange? The baseline (shown first) is higher than after inclusion of GH?

Any idea/suggestions on why IGF hasn’t increased from addition of GH?

 

[LevButlerov]

First time using GH. Baseline (no Exogenous GH) GH blood result:
View attachment 173719

Three weeks 1iu per day pre sleep for 3 weeks 2iu pre sleep for 4 days. Morning of blood Test 2iu, bloods drawn 2.5 hrs later fasted.

View attachment 173720
Would appear from results GH subcutaneous injection is increasing GH levels. Great.

But don’t IGF results look a bit strange? The baseline (shown first) is higher than after inclusion of GH?

View attachment 173721



View attachment 173723

Any idea/suggestions on why IGF hasn’t increased from addition of GH?

We have had discussions before @Peshay about your starting a log. You do realize its near impossible to really give you a good answer without having your baseline down? I do see your gh levels are high but why your igf levels are like that hard to say without a log.
We have no context here at all so interpreting GH and IGF numbers in isolation is guessing, levels swing based on sleep, calories, training stress, timing, and injection schedule.
Get a proper log up with daily food, training, sleep, GH timing and dose, and bodyweight so the EVO family can see patterns and explain why IGF looks off instead of guessing from screenshots. 15min of your time to help change your life.

HOW-TO LOG?

Why is a Log Journal important?

• Doing a log will actually help you way more than just dropping random updates. When you lay it all out week by week you start to see patterns in your body that you won’t catch otherwise.
• Other guys here run logs all the time and there’s no privacy issue, nobody is asking for your name or anything personal, it is just training, diet, and how the compound feels.
• The feedback you get is also way better because people can follow along and spot things you might miss. It also helps the next guy who is thinking about running the same compound so you are giving back while you learn.
• Even if you think you might not stick with it, just starting the log makes it easier to come back and add quick notes. That way you get more out of what you are running instead of keeping it all in your head.

To really guide you we need more info from you:

• Please share your diet, training, cardio, sleep, supplements etc log with us in a NEW thread, full log journal so our guidance is based on facts you provide.
• It will take 15-20 minutes max.
• We have 100s of years of experience between us, so you need to post a LOG Journal with your stats (weight,height,age, years training, cycle history) diet, training, cardio, supplement, sleep details. If you don't log what you eat or train now, open NOTES on phone and start recording it there and paste here. Very easy.
• Please post a Log Journal asap for us

Please click the anabolic forum
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/forums/anabolic-steroids-and-peds.2/
top RIGHT, you see: +POST THREAD
click that

in Title: write your cycle name, like> My _____ Cycle Log
___ = the name of your log
example: My HGH cycle Training Log
in body: write your planned cycle or cycle you doing now, your diet, training and we will help you along on your cycle

here are examples of LOG Journals
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/first-testosterone-cycle-log.104133/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/sustanon-trenomast-deca-dbol-cycle-journal.105881/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/s-gentz-2025-26-growth-phase-log-with-psl.106514/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...var-bpc157-beligas-pharmaqo-cycle-log.104843/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...g-log-sponsored-by-purity-source-labs.103669/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...erone-cycle-and-beginner-training-log.106310/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/average-trt-back-to-savage-cycle-journal.106252
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...-testosterone-masteron-primobolan-deca.105348
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...odybuilding-log-masters-55-competitor.102611/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...ron-npp-tren-anadrol-log-to-stage-2025.102590

 

[Dreamer]

Quite a few things can influence the IGF1, e2 level, liver function, time, diet etc.
What you can be sure of though is your GH is real, something downstream is stopping your conversion, I would take @LevButlerov advice for a log

 

[stevesmi]

First time using GH. Baseline (no Exogenous GH) GH blood result:
View attachment 173719

Three weeks 1iu per day pre sleep for 3 weeks 2iu pre sleep for 4 days. Morning of blood Test 2iu, bloods drawn 2.5 hrs later fasted.

View attachment 173720
Would appear from results GH subcutaneous injection is increasing GH levels. Great.

But don’t IGF results look a bit strange? The baseline (shown first) is higher than after inclusion of GH?

View attachment 173721



View attachment 173723

Any idea/suggestions on why IGF hasn’t increased from addition of GH?

its very hard to get a 100% accurate # on bloodwork for hgh. Your best bet is to send it off to be tested and stick to approved sources that you know are legit. Napsgear actually has testing done on their products, both by users and by the brands themselves that you can look on the website for.

 

[Peshay]

stick to approved sources

Thanks for your input guys. It is a board source, and I believe GH blood levels indicate it is legit. Just thought i could get some generic suggestions as to why it doesn’t seem to be converting to IGF without starting a log. Unfortunately I t have the time/commitment to run a log.

 

[Peshay]

It is a board source

Am a little reluctant to mention who the board source is till I understand the IGF1 anomaly. Dont want to malign the source particularly when the actual GH result is pretty impressive.

 

[Mobster]

Lev is correct and even in your later replies you're not including any extra info

 

[Peshay]

I understand, hope the following helps:

Bloods from Dec while running 225mg TestE a week.

Since then I’ve added an extra 210mg of Test P per week. 100mg of Masteron, 0.5mg of Arrimidex and last couple of weeks 20mg Turinabol. And as mentioned 1-2 iu of GH per day for last 25 days.

Current blood results apart from GH and IGf 1

 

[stevesmi]

Thanks for your input guys. It is a board source, and I believe GH blood levels indicate it is legit. Just thought i could get some generic suggestions as to why it doesn’t seem to be converting to IGF without starting a log. Unfortunately I t have the time/commitment to run a log.

Growth hormone levels are notoriously tough to test
Hence, why it’s just about impossible to bust someone for taking it
I like that you’re playing around with testing it

 

[Peshay]

Additions

Clearly E2 is a little high atm will adjust AI accordingly.

Diet is very clean - at least 180gms of protein a day - eggs chicken beef pork WPI Greek Yoghurt. Moderate Carbs - whole meal bread, steel cut oats fresh fruit vegetables. low Fat - PB, Nuts Avocado Seeds.

Training- 2 Upper Body, 2 Lower Body, 2-3 hours cardio.

Sleep is good, GH has helped.

Low stress life, Not working.

Moderate Alcohol, pre sleep weed

Prozac, Almodopine/Valsatran, Rosavastatin, Dutasteride, oral Minoxidil NAC, Milk Thistle, Vitamin B3, Vitamin D.

Blood Pressure 120/70 Fasting BG 5.

Only thing that jumps out at me is highish E2, would that cause GH not being

 

[ceo]

Am a little reluctant to mention who the board source is till I understand the IGF1 anomaly. Dont want to malign the source particularly when the actual GH result is pretty impressive.

Bros, nothing to be scared of. We are open and honest on here, no matter what source you use.

 

[Ulter]

Additions

Clearly E2 is a little high atm will adjust AI accordingly.

Diet is very clean - at least 180gms of protein a day - eggs chicken beef pork WPI Greek Yoghurt. Moderate Carbs - whole meal bread, steel cut oats fresh fruit vegetables. low Fat - PB, Nuts Avocado Seeds.

Training- 2 Upper Body, 2 Lower Body, 2-3 hours cardio.

Sleep is good, GH has helped.

Low stress life, Not working.

Moderate Alcohol, pre sleep weed

Prozac, Almodopine/Valsatran, Rosavastatin, Dutasteride, oral Minoxidil NAC, Milk Thistle, Vitamin B3, Vitamin D.

Blood Pressure 120/70 Fasting BG 5.

Only thing that jumps out at me is highish E2, would that cause GH not being

that's great that you have a low-stress life. That's very good but you really got to get off the alcohol. Alcohol has no benefits only detriments.

 

[2Thick]

First time using GH. Baseline (no Exogenous GH) GH blood result:
View attachment 173719

Three weeks 1iu per day pre sleep for 3 weeks 2iu pre sleep for 4 days. Morning of blood Test 2iu, bloods drawn 2.5 hrs later fasted.

View attachment 173720
Would appear from results GH subcutaneous injection is increasing GH levels. Great.

But don’t IGF results look a bit strange? The baseline (shown first) is higher than after inclusion of GH?

View attachment 173721



View attachment 173723

Any idea/suggestions on why IGF hasn’t increased from addition of GH?

The simple suggestion is these numbers are very volatile. Literally if you test five or ten minutes too late or too early, you can get a completely different number.

 

[ROIDDERS]

We have had discussions before @Peshay about your starting a log. You do realize its near impossible to really give you a good answer without having your baseline down? I do see your gh levels are high but why your igf levels are like that hard to say without a log.
We have no context here at all so interpreting GH and IGF numbers in isolation is guessing, levels swing based on sleep, calories, training stress, timing, and injection schedule.
Get a proper log up with daily food, training, sleep, GH timing and dose, and bodyweight so the EVO family can see patterns and explain why IGF looks off instead of guessing from screenshots. 15min of your time to help change your life.

HOW-TO LOG?

Why is a Log Journal important?

• Doing a log will actually help you way more than just dropping random updates. When you lay it all out week by week you start to see patterns in your body that you won’t catch otherwise.
• Other guys here run logs all the time and there’s no privacy issue, nobody is asking for your name or anything personal, it is just training, diet, and how the compound feels.
• The feedback you get is also way better because people can follow along and spot things you might miss. It also helps the next guy who is thinking about running the same compound so you are giving back while you learn.
• Even if you think you might not stick with it, just starting the log makes it easier to come back and add quick notes. That way you get more out of what you are running instead of keeping it all in your head.

To really guide you we need more info from you:

• Please share your diet, training, cardio, sleep, supplements etc log with us in a NEW thread, full log journal so our guidance is based on facts you provide.
• It will take 15-20 minutes max.
• We have 100s of years of experience between us, so you need to post a LOG Journal with your stats (weight,height,age, years training, cycle history) diet, training, cardio, supplement, sleep details. If you don't log what you eat or train now, open NOTES on phone and start recording it there and paste here. Very easy.
• Please post a Log Journal asap for us

Please click the anabolic forum
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/forums/anabolic-steroids-and-peds.2/
top RIGHT, you see: +POST THREAD
click that

in Title: write your cycle name, like> My _____ Cycle Log
___ = the name of your log
example: My HGH cycle Training Log
in body: write your planned cycle or cycle you doing now, your diet, training and we will help you along on your cycle

here are examples of LOG Journals
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/first-testosterone-cycle-log.104133/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/sustanon-trenomast-deca-dbol-cycle-journal.105881/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/s-gentz-2025-26-growth-phase-log-with-psl.106514/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...var-bpc157-beligas-pharmaqo-cycle-log.104843/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...g-log-sponsored-by-purity-source-labs.103669/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...erone-cycle-and-beginner-training-log.106310/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/average-trt-back-to-savage-cycle-journal.106252
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...-testosterone-masteron-primobolan-deca.105348
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...odybuilding-log-masters-55-competitor.102611/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...ron-npp-tren-anadrol-log-to-stage-2025.102590

I agree with what anyone, everyone above has said and I definitely agree. You need to start your own log
this way you can get the most out of your HGH.

 

[ballin2504]

I’m with the guys a log would be the best bet