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Welcome to EVO bro.
Doubtful anyone has used it but we won’t know until we have the brand and you post a close up pic.
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welcome to the EVO family
@DapperDan Pakistan gear is often faked and counterfeit at least 80-90% of the market is no good. Please share pics of your gear for us front and back so we can see it.
@zucchini had some gear from Pakistan he can chime in please
It's not like the old days where the Pakistani gear was some of the best. I would not trust anything unless it was approved today.
I see. I was hoping to source some bayer test, but it seems to be dry here.
Why don't you use one of our approved sources on here? This way you know you're not wasting your money and time.
Fair. I dont care about the money i used to purchase those. But the main reason is im in vietnam.
I'm sure our sources shipped to Vietnam. You should ask one of their reps. Maybe trying napsgear.
I had a source lined up, that was recommended by some westerners here. But they seem to be down now. No one else seems to know. I was hoping to find something in country as im cautious shipping into the country.
Otherwise it seems I'll have to live with androgel until Im back home. A cycle would be nice because all I have is time and relaxation right now, but more importantly is some test in my body lol.
Don't worry man, I'm sure if you ask some of the reps you'll get some answers.
Thanks man. I'll look around to see if someone has actually shipped into Vietnam. Customs can be very strange here. Bribery is big here, but they will also just stop a package from coming through with no monetary value.
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Pakistan gear is often faked and counterfeit at least 80-90% of the market is no good. Please share pics of your gear for us front and back so we can see it.
@zucchini had some gear from Pakistan he can chime in please
Welcome brother!
From the vials and packaging, that's legit
it's like $1.3 for 3x1ml vials there right now.
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Not that im aware of. Im currently in a small city so my resources are limited until i travel outside this city
Thanks brother. I saw your name mentioned above about gear from Pakistan. I could not find it at that price point though. But still quite happy at the price I paid if you're saying its legit pharma.Welcome brother!
From the vials and packaging, that's legit
Out of curiosity for myself, and for anyone else who happens to search for this brand. What gives it away for you to be legit? Any information about the oil used?
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can you please post pictures of what you have? take a pic with your phone and post the pics here as reply we cant tell you otherwise no pic @DapperDan
A few things actually:
The quality of the paper the fine print is on.
The style and typing on the vials
The packaging style
The name of the company and and their address and their public info of their oil used in this product.
Its typical of all the pharma companies there.
Theres organon and obs (obs bought out bayer pharma in pakistan a few years ago)
I got obs test with me as well. I'll post a picture tomorrow of the packaging n paper n vials, you'll see what i mean by it being typical of all licensed pharmaceuticals there.
Theres four pictures above on two different replies.
Thanks again brother. I'd love to compare what you've got too. Are you in Vietnam too? You mentioned the prices on your last reply.
I didn't notice the oil type though.
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sorry about that they didnt load for me only the posts loaded @DapperDan
looking at these pictures it looks like counterfeits, very typical. I've seen these before.
No worries.
What makes you say that? This is the internet so I'll say im not arguing. Just curious like i asked about @zucchini response.
Bros, test E is a good one. I'm sure if you ask around you'll find where to get it from in your country.
I mean at the end of the day you can try the gear.
@DapperDan End of the day bro you'll have to run the gear and get bloodwork. Pakistan isn't what it used to be.
We don't have too many guys on here from Pakistan. I think we have a couple of guys from India but at the end of the day I'm not sure how it works over there. Check what the source is on here, message their reps, message them on there, and see if they ship to you.
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This is what I have:
This is from OBS, the company that bought out Bayer in Pakistan, a few years ago, everything was the same with this the only difference would be it would say "Bayer" where it now says "OBS" EXAMPLE OF OLD PACKING BELOW:
What you have, from what I see, is another company called Geofman, which is a legit company and makes a ton of products, including test. The packaging, vials and the fineprint all looks like what a Pakistani company would make.
Ofcourse everyone has their opinion but If I was you I wouldn't worry too much and try it like @HarleyGuy said and get bloodwork done to see. I am 99.9% sure it's legit what you have as I have seen these in pharmacies back home along with OBS/Bayer.
This is what I have:
This is from OBS, the company that bought out Bayer in Pakistan, a few years ago, everything was the same with this the only difference would be it would say "Bayer" where it now says "OBS" EXAMPLE OF OLD PACKING BELOW:
What you have, from what I see, is another company called Geofman, which is a legit company and makes a ton of products, including test. The packaging, vials and the fineprint all looks like what a Pakistani company would make.
Ofcourse everyone has their opinion but If I was you I wouldn't worry too much and try it like @HarleyGuy said and get bloodwork done to see. I am 99.9% sure it's legit what you have as I have seen these in pharmacies back home along with OBS/Bayer.
This was a great informative post @zucchini thanks for the good research (and with pics) for EVO!
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Here is what makes me say it, simple, I've seen the actual amps you posted that were counterfeit, so basically fakes, blanks inside or bad quality oil high PIP @DapperDan I've been doing this over 30 years, so I can tell you I've seen it all.
Your situation is NOT unique this happens all the time, fakes come from Thailand, Pakistan, Cambodia, Egypt a LOT like 90%+ of the market.
The real question is what were you going to cycle here?
Solid information man, thanks so much. Even if what i have turns out to be fake, your information is so valuable. That being said, I can see the comparisons you make to the product i have. Very similar to the OBS you have.
Considering I purchased this at an actual pharmacy in Vietnam, and not some gym bro, Im gonna say its legit. Pharmacies do sometimes get caught selling fake products here, but there have been a lot of crackdowns recently, so I'm leaning towards this being legit.
It is what it is man. You got to navigate your situation.
While I can certainly appreciate someone who has long term experience, in my industry I can see something is wrong because I've done it so long, while others might not see it. However, @zucchini posted much more valuable information relating to products from Pakistan. In this situation, I appreciate all opinions though because Im used to buying gear from a trusted source back home.
Absolutely, I agree. Which is why I came here hoping to gain some knowledge, which I did.
This is the place for it. Make sure you check out the podcasts and the articles as well.
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I'm just being open with you about this
sharing @DapperDan and I trust @zucchini he's legit I called him into the thread due to his experience, but even for him it's limited to the gear he used and saw.I'm telling you I saw the exact amps you have fakes, so that's what I'm saying if you follow the flow here
are you going to use them?
For sure. I didnt just come here to ask my question and then split. Haha.
I understand man. Two different opinions. You said you've seen the exact ampules and they're fake. @zucchini seems to think they're legit.I'm just being open with you about this
I'm telling you I saw the exact amps you have fakes, so that's what I'm saying if you follow the flow here
are you going to use them?
I'm going to wait to pin them until I can see if I can find someone whos purchased from the same pharmacy. Impossible to know for sure unless I pin them and hope nothing bad happens.
That's definitely a good idea to stick around.
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why dont you just get new gear from a local Canadian source? @DapperDan you're in Canada right?
Ah because im not in Canada currently. Canada is no problem finding good gear. Haha
There's plenty of approved sources here for different countries. You should check em out.
Which country are you based in?
I'm currently in Vietnam, i had a source lined up, but a couple weeks before my arrival, it disappeared. It was popular here, im not the only one struggling now because of its disappearance.
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you're in Vietnam or Canada?
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you now they are real? awesome please post pictures of the true bayer amps @DapperDan
