2nd Cycle - Test & Tren

[alphaaj]

Hey guys,

This is going to be my second cycle. My first cycle was test only, I started at test e 500/wk then went down to 250/wk.

I wanted to do the same 250/wk test E cycle but however I wanted to mix some tren in there now as well. What is a good low dosage to still be effective and what is your recommendation of the cycle log. Thanks!

 

[Fella Finn]

This is just my opinion but I would not run tren on your 2nd cycle. The fact being you are still fairly new when it comes to chemical enhancement.
Also I would like to have a little bit more information about you first. Stats, age, goals etc.

 

[stevesmi]

for a first tren run just do 200mgs a week solo

that is plenty

 

[Hollywood305]

for a first tren run just do 200mgs a week solo

that is plenty

Its only his 2nd cycle tho

 

[alphaaj]

So what would u suggest to do for my 2nd cycle then? I want to go light on the gear. Can you guys recommend a good 2nd cycle for me?

6'0, 187lbs, 24% BF

305 Bench
250 Squat (I need to work on my legs more, having joint problems so stray away from squats I need a good joint supp. I think)
XXX Military - haven't checked recently

 

[rihanetazi]

So what would u suggest to do for my 2nd cycle then? I want to go light on the gear. Can you guys recommend a good 2nd cycle for me?

6'0, 187lbs, 24% BF

305 Bench
250 Squat (I need to work on my legs more, having joint problems so stray away from squats I need a good joint supp. I think)
XXX Military - haven't checked recently

You still weak to hop on tren. And bf pretty high. I used deca as 2nd cycle. Shit was amazing, no sides. I'm considering on hoppin on 200mg tren next cycle, but i bench 365, squat 405, military 245 @ 12%

 

[Hollywood305]

So what would u suggest to do for my 2nd cycle then? I want to go light on the gear. Can you guys recommend a good 2nd cycle for me?

6'0, 187lbs, 24% BF

305 Bench
250 Squat (I need to work on my legs more, having joint problems so stray away from squats I need a good joint supp. I think)
XXX Military - haven't checked recently

You need to lose a minimum of 10% of your current bodyfat before taking ANY aas...your at least a year away...id spend the time and money on food and training and educating yourself on side effects and mitigating risk

 

[rihanetazi]

You need to lose a minimum of 10% of your current bodyfat before taking ANY aas...your at least a year away...id spend the time and money on food and training and educating yourself on side effects and mitigating risk

His stats don't seem right 187 lbs, 24% at 6 foot. Do a dexa scan or use fat caliper, none of that electronic scale bullshit

 

[Hollywood305]

His stats don't seem right 187 lbs, 24% at 6 foot. Do a dexa scan or use fat caliper, none of that electronic scale bullshit

Hes prob skinny fat or just started lifting

 

[alphaaj]

Yea I used an electronic scale I need to do a dexa scan lol.

Kind of shitty pictures but attached is how I look currently, I have to go get a dexa scan I know the electronic scale could be way off. I want to pretty much get shredded - I do have a belly and my pecs do sag in certain postures. - https://imgur.com/a/7z0tTVq

 

[Hollywood305]

Yea I used an electronic scale I need to do a dexa scan lol.

Kind of shitty pictures but attached is how I look currently, I have to go get a dexa scan I know the electronic scale could be way off. I want to pretty much get shredded - I do have a belly and my pecs do sag in certain postures. - https://imgur.com/a/7z0tTVq

Cant really see shit from these pics...re-take maybe?
You def dont need gear...just diet for 20 weeks, hard...no bs cheat days, meals...just hit the diet hard for 20 weeks and train like a beast and re-take the pics

 

[rihanetazi]

Yea I used an electronic scale I need to do a dexa scan lol.

Kind of shitty pictures but attached is how I look currently, I have to go get a dexa scan I know the electronic scale could be way off. I want to pretty much get shredded - I do have a belly and my pecs do sag in certain postures. - https://imgur.com/a/7z0tTVq

Lol that's fuckin far from 24%. 12-16% imo.

 

[alphaaj]

Okay then I gotta get an actual Dexa soon just to verify. However, what do you think I should do then for the 2nd cycle? Ditch the tren and hit Deca? Let me know best route here guys

 

[Hollywood305]

Okay then I gotta get an actual Dexa soon just to verify. However, what do you think I should do then for the 2nd cycle? Ditch the tren and hit Deca? Let me know best route here guys

How old r u?

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Lol that's fuckin far from 24%. 12-16% imo.

12%?
R u kidding...

 

[WillYam]

Dude stay away from Tren on your second cycle, I ran it on my 4th cycle (3 years after my first) and it kicked my ass lol

Second cycle maybe throw in an Oral along with your test (Winny/Dbol/Var/Tbol/Anadrol)

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If you really want to use another injectable try a Rip Blend or something

 

[rihanetazi]

How old r u?

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12%?
R u kidding...

That's just a range.. U looking for a precise number?

 

[Mobster]

So what would u suggest to do for my 2nd cycle then? I want to go light on the gear. Can you guys recommend a good 2nd cycle for me?

6'0, 187lbs, 24% BF

305 Bench
250 Squat (I need to work on my legs more, having joint problems so stray away from squats I need a good joint supp. I think)
XXX Military - haven't checked recently

So too fat to be using roids. Age?

 

[Hollywood305]

That's just a range.. U looking for a precise number?

No...im leaner than him and im at 16-17%...
Rule of thumb if u cant see abs ur at least 20%
Plus he said sometimes his pecs sag...
Hes not 24% tho id say 19-20

 

[stevesmi]

Its only his 2nd cycle tho

i agree, i would wait a while before tren because once you do the tren thing, you won't want to go back to EQ or primo, etc.

 

[cbbram]

I'd wait a little bit longer before you run Tren. I think I waited until my 8th cycle.

 

[dylangemelli]

this is not good at all... your body fat is far too high to be using steroids as it is and tren on a second cycle is a terrible idea... even if your body fat was better, tren this early is just not a good idea whatsoever

 

[P0N]

Not trying to pile on, but tren is a beast, and definitely not the right thing for a 2nd cycle in my opinion. Personally, I liked deca as the first new compound for a second cycle, but as others have said, your body fat is a bit up their to be running any AAS. It would be preferable to get it down closer to 15% to mitigate a lot of the side effects.

 

[Hollywood305]

i agree, i would wait a while before tren because once you do the tren thing, you won't want to go back to EQ or primo, etc.

Which is why gradually increasing usage and slowly adding compounds is heavily recommended

 

[RickRock]

You're not in the right shape for steroids, let alone tren

 

[alphaaj]

I've decided to take Test + Anavar as my 2nd cycle and not go near Tren until I'm far deeper / more cycles. I still haven't done a dexa but I can believe I'm around 17-18% BF.

Where can I get legit Anavar? I tried PSL for Test it was not bad, but I don't know about their var. Also, do you suggest this as my second cycle bro?

 

[Gearhead13#2]

Deca won't help your b/f% stay away from tren for now, maybe like Steve said some eq or throw in a mild oral like anavar it may help too lean you out. Also I'm no sarms expert but maybe look in too adding a sarm and doing low test on a cut for 12 weeks.