Adding dbol

[atc5011]

Hey all. Finished my first cycle few months back and planning my next. I did more of a HRT dosage to see how my body would respond... wow. Test e 250 a week every 3days. Ran it for 12 weeks but should have stopped at 10 as that was def my peak.
Started at 190lbs 16bf and peaked at 208lbs and about 12bf. Felt like a millions bucks

Currently sitting at 198lbs bf around 14 or so.

My plan for 2nd cycle is for 8 weeks, 250mg enth e3d and add dbol 25mg ed

8 weeks puts me at a good time for a summer cycle.

Thoughts?

 

[Mobster]

Hey all. Finished my first cycle few months back and planning my next. I did more of a HRT dosage to see how my body would respond... wow. Test e 250 a week every 3days. Ran it for 12 weeks but should have stopped at 10 as that was def my peak.
Started at 190lbs 16bf and peaked at 208lbs and about 12bf. Felt like a millions bucks

Currently sitting at 198lbs bf around 14 or so.

My plan for 2nd cycle is for 8 weeks, 250mg enth e3d and add dbol 25mg ed

8 weeks puts me at a good time for a summer cycle.

Thoughts?

2-3 lots of 250mg test a week is NO WHERE NEAR HRT or, more accurately, TRT dosing. In fact it's more than I've ever done

 

[stevesmi]

make sure you are fully recovered. 90% of guys DO NOT fully recover between their 1st and 2nd cycles. this is a dangerous pattern

 

[atc5011]

make sure you are fully recovered. 90% of guys DO NOT fully recover between their 1st and 2nd cycles. this is a dangerous pattern

Correct which is why I want to do it right. I started the first week of June 12 weeks on, 3 weeks off, 4 weeks PCT. I have read mixed things of how long to stay off for. Some say length of cycle and PCT. Do I include 3 weeks off also. So 19 weeks off? My main concern is being able to take enough time off from this cycle to start my summer cycle!! LMK your thoughts!

 

[TheChad]

Hey all. Finished my first cycle few months back and planning my next. I did more of a HRT dosage to see how my body would respond... wow. Test e 250 a week every 3days. Ran it for 12 weeks but should have stopped at 10 as that was def my peak.
Started at 190lbs 16bf and peaked at 208lbs and about 12bf. Felt like a millions bucks

Currently sitting at 198lbs bf around 14 or so.

My plan for 2nd cycle is for 8 weeks, 250mg enth e3d and add dbol 25mg ed

8 weeks puts me at a good time for a summer cycle.

Thoughts?

250mg a week is not HRT dose. HRT/TRT is usually in the 150mg dose. I’m not sure by how you worded it if you were taking 250 a week or 250 E3D?

For your planned cycle, 8 weeks is not long enough with Test E. 10 to 12 weeks min with the long ester. If you want to run a short cycle then go with short esters but you will have to inject EOD.


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[dylangemelli]

Time on PLUS PCT time = time off and thats just the minimum time... it doesnt hurt to wait a little longer after that time frame

 

[atc5011]

Time on PLUS PCT time = time off and thats just the minimum time... it doesnt hurt to wait a little longer after that time frame

Might sound dumb. Do I include the 3 weeks before pct?

 

[dylangemelli]

Might sound dumb. Do I include the 3 weeks before pct?

Yes man. Thats time on


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[muskate]

Your plan for a second cycle looks fine but I would run the test e for 10 weeks. Test e has a very long ester attached to it. 10-12 week cycles make the most sense for long esters.

Also make sure to add in an AI like aromasin to keep estrogen levels in the normal range

 

[atc5011]

Your plan for a second cycle looks fine but I would run the test e for 10 weeks. Test e has a very long ester attached to it. 10-12 week cycles make the most sense for long esters.

Also make sure to add in an AI like aromasin to keep estrogen levels in the normal range

Mustake, you made me start to think about this a bit more. What if, to time it better, I ran some short esters for 8 weeks. With short esters I do not need as much time off before PCT as I would with say Cyp or Enth. I was looking into it.
I can get a good blend of Test Prop, Tren Ace, and Mast Prop blend. 75mg of each e3d. Run this for 8 weeks, take the proper time off, and then jump on Test Cyp, DBol and Anavar for the summer.

Thoughts?

 

[atc5011]

EOD not e3d

 

[muskate]

Mustake, you made me start to think about this a bit more. What if, to time it better, I ran some short esters for 8 weeks. With short esters I do not need as much time off before PCT as I would with say Cyp or Enth. I was looking into it.
I can get a good blend of Test Prop, Tren Ace, and Mast Prop blend. 75mg of each e3d. Run this for 8 weeks, take the proper time off, and then jump on Test Cyp, DBol and Anavar for the summer.

Thoughts?

Looks good

 

[Hollywood305]

Mustake, you made me start to think about this a bit more. What if, to time it better, I ran some short esters for 8 weeks. With short esters I do not need as much time off before PCT as I would with say Cyp or Enth. I was looking into it.
I can get a good blend of Test Prop, Tren Ace, and Mast Prop blend. 75mg of each e3d. Run this for 8 weeks, take the proper time off, and then jump on Test Cyp, DBol and Anavar for the summer.

Thoughts?

Why not bridge the summer cycle gap with a run of hgh instead of more gear...u could throw sarms in as well. Less pct and take a pin break too...also not hepotoxic plus less ancilaries ....just an idea

 

[atc5011]

Looks good

Was thinking about test prop - tren - mast blend, which is 225mg. So I'd do 225 mg per week. I've read to make sure the test is higher so I'd add 75mg of prop per week. So per week its be 150mg trst prop 75mg tren 75mg mast

Thoughts?

 

[muskate]

Was thinking about test prop - tren - mast blend, which is 225mg. So I'd do 225 mg per week. I've read to make sure the test is higher so I'd add 75mg of prop per week. So per week its be 150mg trst prop 75mg tren 75mg mast

Thoughts?

I like it. Just remember to add the proper support supplements into your cycle

A test/tren cycle needs 3 main support supplements:
1. An AI like aromasin to keep estrogen in the low-normal range
2. An anti-prolactin drug like cabergoline to keep prolactin in the low-normal range
3. Cardarine to increase fat loss, endurance and prevent tren related side effects like tren cough