anything to stack with GW for endurance?

[SoccerLife]

are there any good supplements to stack with gw for endurance?

running Gw 151650 and wantr to know if anything can boost its effects even further like a stim or supplement or prohormone or something. Thank you.

 

[kullwarrior]

GW501516 was a former investigated drug, it was discontinued because of cancer risk. This drug will never be approved for human simply because of its side effect. I strongly discourage anyone from using it. People often suggest big pharma doesn't care about you and only interested in making money, if GSK discontinue research into a drug with such promise it should be a big warning.

 

[Starhopper]

GW501516 was a former investigated drug, it was discontinued because of cancer risk. This drug will never be approved for human simply because of its side effect. I strongly discourage anyone from using it. People often suggest big pharma doesn't care about you and only interested in making money, if GSK discontinue research into a drug with such promise it should be a big warning.

I suggest you do a little more research and learning about GW and it's cancer risks before you start posting things you have no clue on. Start here for one. http://www.evolutionary.org/gw-501516-cardarine-cancer The cancer risk was debunked a long time ago. And, how it was started, they were giving HUGE amounts to rats.

 

[Starhopper]

As for your question SoccerLife, I'm not sure what to stack with it. I run the triple stack and get great endurance from it. I will let others post on any other products.

 

[kullwarrior]

I suggest you do a little more research and learning about GW and it's cancer risks before you start posting things you have no clue on. Start here for one. http://www.evolutionary.org/gw-501516-cardarine-cancer The cancer risk was debunked a long time ago. And, how it was started, they were giving HUGE amounts to rats.

Are you suggesting GSK decided to discontinue investigation based on flawed research? A quick search on scientific papers related to GW501516 within last five years does not look positive. I personally think if GSK chose to abandon a drug with such strong promise, there are very good reasons for it.

 

[MikeSnow]

Depends on what type of endurance you are talking about and looking for, Test+EQ+GW would be a beast endurance run but like I said it depends on the type because steroids are anabolic, GW isn't really

 

[kullwarrior]

I suggest you do a little more research and learning about GW and it's cancer risks before you start posting things you have no clue on. Start here for one. http://www.evolutionary.org/gw-501516-cardarine-cancer The cancer risk was debunked a long time ago. And, how it was started, they were giving HUGE amounts to rats.

Are you suggesting GSK decided to discontinue investigation based on flawed research? A quick search on scientific papers related to GW501516 within last five years does not look positive. I personally think if GSK chose to abandon a drug with such strong promise, there are very good reasons for it.

 

[Starhopper]

Are you suggesting GSK decided to discontinue investigation based on flawed research? A quick search on scientific papers related to GW501516 within last five years does not look positive. I personally think if GSK chose to abandon a drug with such strong promise, there are very good reasons for it.

Nope, not suggesting that at all. Just saying read up on it and not to buy into all the big pharma bullshit. Was GSK looking for a specific outcome? Do you know exactly what they were looking for? We can take this discussion to another thread as to not take away from SoccerLife and his question.

 

[RickRock]

There really isn't a lot of things you can do to increase the endurance aspect further unless you add some EQ. However, you can increase energy by adding Somethng like Yohimflame to it, which will also aid fat loss

 

[stevesmi]

When I used to compete in ironman's in my 20's I asked a 40 year old vet how I could shave time off my runs which I was struggling with. his answer? RUN MORE

people on forums say I'm a smart ass when I tell lifters to LIFT MORE if they want to get stronger, but its true. that's the only way you will get stronger, I don't care how much steroids you inject into your ass. same with endurance. want to be a better swimmer? swim more... want to be a better dancer? dance more

 

[stevesmi]

Are you suggesting GSK decided to discontinue investigation based on flawed research? A quick search on scientific papers related to GW501516 within last five years does not look positive. I personally think if GSK chose to abandon a drug with such strong promise, there are very good reasons for it.

the GW/cancer debate has been discussed on here in dozens of threads. the rats were given a ridiculous dosage over the course of a long time, what would equate to 1000mg a day for humans for like 6 months straight.

and a study in Australia they did in actual humans showed that GW did NOT cause cancer.. it actually prevented it. they gave men 20mg a day for 3 months straight. none got cancer and cancer cells actually shrunk in their bodies with those that had them

 

[JackSteel]

GW501516 was a former investigated drug, it was discontinued because of cancer risk. This drug will never be approved for human simply because of its side effect. I strongly discourage anyone from using it. People often suggest big pharma doesn't care about you and only interested in making money, if GSK discontinue research into a drug with such promise it should be a big warning.

The studies that showed cancer were about 100x what any person would take. The rats were given the equivalent of what would be for us about 2-5 full bottles every day for long periods of time. If you drink too much tap water you'll have the same effects.

GW in other studies has been shown to decrease tumor size as well. You have to look at these studies with a grain of salt unless they're replicated by several if not hundreds of other independant studies.


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[JackSteel]

That being said, Ostarine also helps endurance and will be synergistically


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[25homes]

Maybe dspark and i like s4 with gw

 

[MikeSnow]

Maybe dspark and i like s4 with gw

For sure S4 and GW is a mini cycle in itself.. I love S4

 

[hurricane]

are there any good supplements to stack with gw for endurance?

running Gw 151650 and wantr to know if anything can boost its effects even further like a stim or supplement or prohormone or something. Thank you.

if you are on a steriod cycle stack it with eq.