Bad gear?

[LargePeter]

Hi all

My supplier has been sending me test cyp for ages; last order they sent enanthate from Pyramid Labs - I'd questioned this as last I'd heard from a mate it was severely underdosed. Source assured me this was no longer the case. Stupidly, I got my latest blood work done 6 months after the last time, and my free and total test numbers have cratered big time.

I'd been convinced the test was working as I've been training a Blood and Guts style routine recently and the change is obvious, but I feel like I've been lifting with little or no benefit from the test. Pinning 200mg a week on cruise since November.

I'm no longer prepared to put up with it; likely going to try UGL OZ - I'm assuming their gear is legit? Otherwise is there something I'm missing that could crater levels? Only other marker that's out is haemoglobin but I'm about to start therapeutics phlebotomy for that.

 

[Woodiee]

Never heard of pyramid but rest assured you won't be disappointed with @UGL OZ or any of our trusted vendors. I personally use @Gold Standard Labs. As for the high blood count. Dumping blood is only a temporary fix. Work on hydration and cardio to get that blood flowing!

 

[Demon_throne]

Hi all

My supplier has been sending me test cyp for ages; last order they sent enanthate from Pyramid Labs - I'd questioned this as last I'd heard from a mate it was severely underdosed. Source assured me this was no longer the case. Stupidly, I got my latest blood work done 6 months after the last time, and my free and total test numbers have cratered big time.

I'd been convinced the test was working as I've been training a Blood and Guts style routine recently and the change is obvious, but I feel like I've been lifting with little or no benefit from the test. Pinning 200mg a week on cruise since November.

I'm no longer prepared to put up with it; likely going to try UGL OZ - I'm assuming their gear is legit? Otherwise is there something I'm missing that could crater levels? Only other marker that's out is haemoglobin but I'm about to start therapeutics phlebotomy for that.

Can't go wrong with @UGL OZ

 

[RedNeck]

Strongly suggest hitting up @Raptor Labs for some on point gear brother

 

[bacwater]

Sounds like it’s underdosed bro for sure. Especially if you’ve noticed a drastic change in how you feel in the gym. Ugloz is one of the most reliable and trustworthy sources around! He’ll look after you.

 

[mrsrlkla]

Pyramid have been around for quite a while and have a reputation of having underdosed oils

 

[LargePeter]

Sounds like it’s underdosed bro for sure. Especially if you’ve noticed a drastic change in how you feel in the gym. Ugloz is one of the most reliable and trustworthy sources around! He’ll look after you.

Bloods were the biggest indicator; the cyp had my test numbers above normal range but PED Test when I checked it out said it looked like it could be sustanon?

In any case, it was working but the enanthate seems terrible. Still making gains since I cut volume, increased intensity and rest - but the source seems to have ghosted me.

Everyone seems to be out of test e and c; I'm happy to get onto sustanon to start things up again - just gotta figure out BTC payments

 

[LargePeter]

Pyramid have been around for quite a while and have a reputation of having underdosed oils

Their anavar worked for me in the past and dbol seemed ok; master masteron and primo seem shit. Happy to avoid in future; just got a heap of test e here I got when I was told there was an upcoming shortage

 

[LargePeter]

Never heard of pyramid but rest assured you won't be disappointed with @UGL OZ or any of our trusted vendors. I personally use @Gold Standard Labs. As for the high blood count. Dumping blood is only a temporary fix. Work on hydration and cardio to get that blood flowing!

Yeah, getting back on the cardio bandwagon a couple times a week plus dog walks and have already increased water consumption.

Is there a link here to a Gold Standard store?

 

[LargePeter]

Strongly suggest hitting up @Raptor Labs for some on point gear brother

I'll check it out

 

[LevButlerov]

Hi all

My supplier has been sending me test cyp for ages; last order they sent enanthate from Pyramid Labs - I'd questioned this as last I'd heard from a mate it was severely underdosed. Source assured me this was no longer the case. Stupidly, I got my latest blood work done 6 months after the last time, and my free and total test numbers have cratered big time.

I'd been convinced the test was working as I've been training a Blood and Guts style routine recently and the change is obvious, but I feel like I've been lifting with little or no benefit from the test. Pinning 200mg a week on cruise since November.

I'm no longer prepared to put up with it; likely going to try UGL OZ - I'm assuming their gear is legit? Otherwise is there something I'm missing that could crater levels? Only other marker that's out is haemoglobin but I'm about to start therapeutics phlebotomy for that.

If they are not on EVO approved supplier list I wouldn't use them, period.
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/top-trusted-aussie-vendors-2025-q4.107247/
I don't know the lab tbh but I don't trust non EVO approved suppliers for your safety. @LargePeter

 

[Weir]

Well youve come to the right placce to get the issue resolved. Heaos of reputable sources here.

 

[Trenhead3cc]

I'll check it out

I’m 12 months exclusively on @Raptor Labs and gear is on point. Had bloodwork done aswell. Comprehensive list. Won’t be disappointed

 

[Eveflorence]

Hi all

My supplier has been sending me test cyp for ages; last order they sent enanthate from Pyramid Labs - I'd questioned this as last I'd heard from a mate it was severely underdosed. Source assured me this was no longer the case. Stupidly, I got my latest blood work done 6 months after the last time, and my free and total test numbers have cratered big time.

I'd been convinced the test was working as I've been training a Blood and Guts style routine recently and the change is obvious, but I feel like I've been lifting with little or no benefit from the test. Pinning 200mg a week on cruise since November.

I'm no longer prepared to put up with it; likely going to try UGL OZ - I'm assuming their gear is legit? Otherwise is there something I'm missing that could crater levels? Only other marker that's out is haemoglobin but I'm about to start therapeutics phlebotomy for that.

Another one for @Raptor Labs
Been using his oils and peptides for almost a year, bloods have always been very positive.

Out of curiosity what was your haemoglobin reading? Phlebotomy here and there might bring it down a point or two but as already mentioned, cardio, hydration and supplements such as nattokinase and ip-6 will also help.
Any history of sleep apnoea?

 

[LargePeter]

Another one for @Raptor Labs
Been using his oils and peptides for almost a year, bloods have always been very positive.

Out of curiosity what was your haemoglobin reading? Phlebotomy here and there might bring it down a point or two but as already mentioned, cardio, hydration and supplements such as nattokinase and ip-6 will also help.
Any history of sleep apnoea?

190; it's always been up around 180 even before I started pinning but sleep aponea is absolutely a thing.

More cardio will happen as will more water; I'll try to find the supps too.

 

[Eveflorence]

190; it's always been up around 180 even before I started pinning but sleep aponea is absolutely a thing.

More cardio will happen as will more water; I'll try to find the supps too.

190 is getting up into dangerous territory. And yes sleep apnoea will definitely elevate haemoglobin. Cpap machine will help rectify things more so than any supplementation.

 

[LargePeter]

190 is getting up into dangerous territory. And yes sleep apnoea will definitely elevate haemoglobin. Cpap machine will help rectify things more so than any supplementation.

Yeah, doc has said the same and told me get off the gear - no alternative or help offered. I have access to therapeutic phlebotomy so I'll try that then get bloods done in another two weeks, then readjust lifestyle factors like cardio and increasing hydration, then investigate sleep apnoea mitigation.

Spoken to the Raptor; seems very positive.

 

[RedNeck]

Yeah, doc has said the same and told me get off the gear - no alternative or help offered. I have access to therapeutic phlebotomy so I'll try that then get bloods done in another two weeks, then readjust lifestyle factors like cardio and increasing hydration, then investigate sleep apnoea mitigation.

Spoken to the Raptor; seems very positive.

Hes a straight up gentleman brother. He will certainly look after ya

 

[LargePeter]

Source has finally contacted me; just offered me new stuff to replace old. I'd rather give Raptor a try, so I his find someone locally to offload to. Still got 9 vials left

 

[Eveflorence]

Source has finally contacted me; just offered me new stuff to replace old. I'd rather give Raptor a try, so I his find someone locally to offload to. Still got 9 vials left

Good decision brother you'll be very happy with Raptor

 

[RedNeck]

Can't go wrong with raptor bro. There's blokes even got his logo inked on em

 

[LargePeter]

Evening bros

Raptors gear arrived yesterday; ordered 4x Test C as a test run and put the first pin in tonight (4x a week; 50mg per shot) - excited to see what transpires; going to run another blood test with iMedical EOM and compare numbers - haven't trained the last week, rehabbing another shoulder situation. Early signs of biceps tendinitis at the shoulder insertion on the left shoulder and weak scapular function (??) - need to up my stretching and mobility game.

Raptor was a fucking legend - easy to deal with, sent a copy of the lab analysis and got the order here quick. Odd, his 10mg vials are larger and have more oil in them than the shit I've got here currently

Just started running 300mcg/day (half morning and night) each of ipamorelin and GHRP-2 from a supplier I've used in the past (they seemed to have worked on my last cut - unlogged) in addition - hoping they kick off again to help with this cut.

Plan now is to run a fairly lengthy recomp (July to end of December) and reassess; I'll keep up with regular bloodwork after the test at end of month and adjust test down slightly if necessary and cycle carbs up and down over weekly blocks to keep calories above (roughly +400) or below (as low as -800) maintenance.

I'll grab some Raptor anavar and run that May and first half of June on a consistent, significant weekly deficit - I'm basically there at consistent small deficit now but just finished a 6 week run of Pyramid var (good the last time I used; this time shit ) and want to give my body a break from God knows what I was using for 8 weeks.

 

[R&Dpharma]

Evening bros

Raptors gear arrived yesterday; ordered 4x Test C as a test run and put the first pin in tonight (4x a week; 50mg per shot) - excited to see what transpires; going to run another blood test with iMedical EOM and compare numbers - haven't trained the last week, rehabbing another shoulder situation. Early signs of biceps tendinitis at the shoulder insertion on the left shoulder and weak scapular function (??) - need to up my stretching and mobility game.

Raptor was a fucking legend - easy to deal with, sent a copy of the lab analysis and got the order here quick. Odd, his 10mg vials are larger and have more oil in them than the shit I've got here currently

Just started running 300mcg/day (half morning and night) each of ipamorelin and GHRP-2 from a supplier I've used in the past (they seemed to have worked on my last cut - unlogged) in addition - hoping they kick off again to help with this cut.

Plan now is to run a fairly lengthy recomp (July to end of December) and reassess; I'll keep up with regular bloodwork after the test at end of month and adjust test down slightly if necessary and cycle carbs up and down over weekly blocks to keep calories above (roughly +400) or below (as low as -800) maintenance.

I'll grab some Raptor anavar and run that May and first half of June on a consistent, significant weekly deficit - I'm basically there at consistent small deficit now but just finished a 6 week run of Pyramid var (good the last time I used; this time shit ) and want to give my body a break from God knows what I was using for 8 weeks.

Good choice bruz @Raptor Labs oils will get you back on track, unlike pyramid you will be guaranteed consistent product

 

[Eveflorence]

Evening bros

Raptors gear arrived yesterday; ordered 4x Test C as a test run and put the first pin in tonight (4x a week; 50mg per shot) - excited to see what transpires; going to run another blood test with iMedical EOM and compare numbers - haven't trained the last week, rehabbing another shoulder situation. Early signs of biceps tendinitis at the shoulder insertion on the left shoulder and weak scapular function (??) - need to up my stretching and mobility game.

Raptor was a fucking legend - easy to deal with, sent a copy of the lab analysis and got the order here quick. Odd, his 10mg vials are larger and have more oil in them than the shit I've got here currently

Just started running 300mcg/day (half morning and night) each of ipamorelin and GHRP-2 from a supplier I've used in the past (they seemed to have worked on my last cut - unlogged) in addition - hoping they kick off again to help with this cut.

Plan now is to run a fairly lengthy recomp (July to end of December) and reassess; I'll keep up with regular bloodwork after the test at end of month and adjust test down slightly if necessary and cycle carbs up and down over weekly blocks to keep calories above (roughly +400) or below (as low as -800) maintenance.

I'll grab some Raptor anavar and run that May and first half of June on a consistent, significant weekly deficit - I'm basically there at consistent small deficit now but just finished a 6 week run of Pyramid var (good the last time I used; this time shit ) and want to give my body a break from God knows what I was using for 8 weeks.

Thanks for the update brother and yeah you'll always be looked after by @Raptor Labs

 

[LevButlerov]

Evening bros

Raptors gear arrived yesterday; ordered 4x Test C as a test run and put the first pin in tonight (4x a week; 50mg per shot) - excited to see what transpires; going to run another blood test with iMedical EOM and compare numbers - haven't trained the last week, rehabbing another shoulder situation. Early signs of biceps tendinitis at the shoulder insertion on the left shoulder and weak scapular function (??) - need to up my stretching and mobility game.

Raptor was a fucking legend - easy to deal with, sent a copy of the lab analysis and got the order here quick. Odd, his 10mg vials are larger and have more oil in them than the shit I've got here currently

Just started running 300mcg/day (half morning and night) each of ipamorelin and GHRP-2 from a supplier I've used in the past (they seemed to have worked on my last cut - unlogged) in addition - hoping they kick off again to help with this cut.

Plan now is to run a fairly lengthy recomp (July to end of December) and reassess; I'll keep up with regular bloodwork after the test at end of month and adjust test down slightly if necessary and cycle carbs up and down over weekly blocks to keep calories above (roughly +400) or below (as low as -800) maintenance.

I'll grab some Raptor anavar and run that May and first half of June on a consistent, significant weekly deficit - I'm basically there at consistent small deficit now but just finished a 6 week run of Pyramid var (good the last time I used; this time shit ) and want to give my body a break from God knows what I was using for 8 weeks.

You should do some TD pics for Team Raptor @Raptor Labs @Raptor Rep @LargePeter

 

[LargePeter]

You should do some TD pics for Team Raptor @Raptor Labs @Raptor Rep @LargePeter

I'm gonna snap a few pics shortly; want to get to the end of this month and back to regular training before potenyially posting anything up. The shit gear and lack of work due to the shoulder issues hasn't made for a great photo opp yet - also training out of my garage and GF has ordered mirrors for the walls for my side and hers for her pole fitness work - they'll be here shortly and far better mirrors than anything we currently have after moving house where the built in wardrobes had full mirror doors. Only downside to having a walk in robe - also makes it hard to check your form during certain activities

 

[Eveflorence]

I'm gonna snap a few pics shortly; want to get to the end of this month and back to regular training before potenyially posting anything up. The shit gear and lack of work due to the shoulder issues hasn't made for a great photo opp yet - also training out of my garage and GF has ordered mirrors for the walls for my side and hers for her pole fitness work - they'll be here shortly and far better mirrors than anything we currently have after moving house where the built in wardrobes had full mirror doors. Only downside to having a walk in robe - also makes it hard to check your form during certain activities

Nah @LevButlerov is talking about taking pics of the gear you got from Raptor. TD means touchdown, it's slang for when people receive an order.

 

[LargePeter]

Nah @LevButlerov is talking about taking pics of the gear you got from Raptor. TD means touchdown, it's slang for when people receive an order.

Shit, whoops