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bigred411 said:
Has anyone used the forte bull test e from bull pharma, I got it through naps.

"Shipping was dog shit terrible 3 weeks"

It looks like water to me doesn't seem like a thick oil at all.

Is it GTG?
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please post a picture of the bull pharma you have @bigred411
 
Not strange at all. A photo will prove nothing. Google Jano tests on the brand and you’ll find several of their products tested oil only 8-12 months ago. And yes, purchased through naps
I had their test cyp batch that was garbage.
 
bigred411 said:
Has anyone used the forte bull test e from bull pharma, I got it through naps.

"Shipping was dog shit terrible 3 weeks"

It looks like water to me doesn't seem like a thick oil at all.

Is it GTG?
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I've never tried Bull Pharma, but if Napsgear is selling it, then it's legit. I would recommend several of the other brands we talk about on the podcast as my top choices.
 
bigred411 said:
Has anyone used the forte bull test e from bull pharma, I got it through naps.

"Shipping was dog shit terrible 3 weeks"

It looks like water to me doesn't seem like a thick oil at all.

Is it GTG?
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Bros, I seen some discounts from bull pharma being put out by Napsgear on the sale so of course they are a legit brand.
 
bigred411 said:
Has anyone used the forte bull test e from bull pharma, I got it through naps.

"Shipping was dog shit terrible 3 weeks"

It looks like water to me doesn't seem like a thick oil at all.

Is it GTG?
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Never seen any complaints on them, man, but you might want to reach out to a rep if you're concerned.
 
Idefineme said:
Not strange at all. A photo will prove nothing. Google Jano tests on the brand and you’ll find several of their products tested oil only 8-12 months ago. And yes, purchased through naps
I had their test cyp batch that was garbage.
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you have bull pharma pics? post them up please @Idefineme
 
bigred411 said:
Has anyone used the forte bull test e from bull pharma, I got it through naps.

"Shipping was dog shit terrible 3 weeks"

It looks like water to me doesn't seem like a thick oil at all.

Is it GTG?
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Post up a photo. Let's take a look. How the gear looks doesn't really mean much.
 
Idefineme said:
Not strange at all. A photo will prove nothing. Google Jano tests on the brand and you’ll find several of their products tested oil only 8-12 months ago. And yes, purchased through naps
I had their test cyp batch that was garbage.
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Post lab test links
 
bigred411 said:
Has anyone used the forte bull test e from bull pharma, I got it through naps.

"Shipping was dog shit terrible 3 weeks"

It looks like water to me doesn't seem like a thick oil at all.

Is it GTG?
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No but I got a bottle of superbull 500 that is completly bunk. I got it off naps aswell. After taking the the superbull my total T was only 639ng my normal range is 629ng. BULLSHIT PHARMA IS BUNK. To the dude that says if naps sell it it gott be good. I CALL BULLSHIT ON THAT. Naps has gotten tons of complaints and even proven janosk test proving that the bullpharma products are trash yet naps continues to support them and sell them to people. As a matter of fact Bullpharma, Omega, and XT labs have all recently been tested and proven bunk. All 3 of these ugls Naps sells. So no DO NOT TRUST NAPS THEY ARE JUST AS GUILY AS THE UGL'S
 
Counterfeit Detective said:
No but I got a bottle of superbull 500 that is completly bunk. I got it off naps aswell. After taking the the superbull my total T was only 639ng my normal range is 629ng. BULLSHIT PHARMA IS BUNK. To the dude that says if naps sell it it gott be good. I CALL BULLSHIT ON THAT. Naps has gotten tons of complaints and even proven janosk test proving that the bullpharma products are trash yet naps continues to support them and sell them to people. As a matter of fact Bullpharma, Omega, and XT labs have all recently been tested and proven bunk. All 3 of these ugls Naps sells. So no DO NOT TRUST NAPS THEY ARE JUST AS GUILY AS THE UGL'S
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Not only does naps know about the problem. Instead of facing the music and offering replacements for any recent purchases from bull pharma. They wait to see if the customer notices. I asked for a replacement or store credit for my purchase they said no. I told them I could show them my bloodwork to show their aint shit in the product. They said 3rd party test only. Anyways I stopped taking the superbull 500 and threw it in the trash. Im lucky im still alive god only knows what the fuck was it their from Mexico. I was a long time repeat customer of naps but that shit pissed me off. I NO LONGER WILL SEND MY MONEY TO A SOURCE THAT DOESNT TAKE PROVEN FAKE UGLs off their shelves.I dont care if its a one time thing or its only one of their products. One fake test they should be taken down. Because it only takes 1 time to kill someone
 
Counterfeit Detective said:
No but I got a bottle of superbull 500 that is completly bunk. I got it off naps aswell. After taking the the superbull my total T was only 639ng my normal range is 629ng. BULLSHIT PHARMA IS BUNK. To the dude that says if naps sell it it gott be good. I CALL BULLSHIT ON THAT. Naps has gotten tons of complaints and even proven janosk test proving that the bullpharma products are trash yet naps continues to support them and sell them to people. As a matter of fact Bullpharma, Omega, and XT labs have all recently been tested and proven bunk. All 3 of these ugls Naps sells. So no DO NOT TRUST NAPS THEY ARE JUST AS GUILY AS THE UGL'S
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Counterfeit Detective said:
Not only does naps know about the problem. Instead of facing the music and offering replacements for any recent purchases from bull pharma. They wait to see if the customer notices. I asked for a replacement or store credit for my purchase they said no. I told them I could show them my bloodwork to show their aint shit in the product. They said 3rd party test only. Anyways I stopped taking the superbull 500 and threw it in the trash. Im lucky im still alive god only knows what the fuck was it their from Mexico. I was a long time repeat customer of naps but that shit pissed me off. I NO LONGER WILL SEND MY MONEY TO A SOURCE THAT DOESNT TAKE PROVEN FAKE UGLs off their shelves.I dont care if its a one time thing or its only one of their products. One fake test they should be taken down. Because it only takes 1 time to kill someone
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I just responded to you here @Counterfeit Detective
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...hat-sell-proven-bunk-gear.111085/post-2074661
LevButlerov said:
I think in situations like this everything is subjective @Counterfeit Detective to start you should post 2 things to prove your case and help EVO family help you, post your bloods you have blur out personal info and post gear pics of the gear.

To add to this, remember napsgear doesnt make the gear, they have labs who they sell and test, you can see this can go wrong at times for sure.

lets tag @jasonhill800 here
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Its fake...what happened to naps gear why would they allow this type of shit to keep happening over and over again? Hopefully they do the right thing and send good quality replacements, will keep everyone posted.
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LevButlerov said:
this is bloods after ? how about before?
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Yes this is blood work after pinning! Why the fuck would I post blood work before pinning. If u have any idea how steriods or testosterone affects actually works. You would clearly understand the shit is fake. WTF is wrong with people have u been on a even cycle before?
 
Funny thing is if you message Bullpharma Thailand they will tell you they have no affiliation with the Mexican Bullpharma. Yet all the Mexican packaging says made in Thailand. They copied every single thing from the Thailand UGL in order to pass themselves off as being the same company. COUNTERFIT DETECTIVE CRACKS ANOTHER ONE
 
I have been buying from NAPS for over 15 years. U figure they would just apologize & give me credits...like WTF But I have over 800k followers on tiktok. Im gonna let people know about this....try to save someone els from being scammed.
 
bigred411 said:
Yes this is blood work after pinning! Why the fuck would I post blood work before pinning. If u have any idea how steriods or testosterone affects actually works. You would clearly understand the shit is fake. WTF is wrong with people have u been on a even cycle before?
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First calm down and stop swearing, getting angry wouldn't fix anything here.

bigred411 said:
I posted my blood work that's not enough??? WTF fuck naps gear!
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no its not enough @bigred411
you need bloods before and at least pics of your gear you are using opened
bigred411 said:
I have been buying from NAPS for over 15 years. U figure they would just apologize & give me credits...like WTF But I have over 800k followers on tiktok. Im gonna let people know about this....try to save someone els from being scammed.
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I dont know your situation with napsgear but they dont respond to just bloods. You know how many customers of theirs scam just like this? say here is my bloods give me refund to get free gear and the bloods are fake or they didnt pin anything at all, MANY! I've talked to @jasonhill800 about it before.

If you have many tiktok followers good for you, you should let them know why not? post your bloods too
bigred411 said:
I will give @jasonhill800 1 more day to do the right thing. Because he has just heard about this issue today. Hopefully they do the honest thing. Let's see.
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Counterfeit Detective said:
Funny thing is if you message Bullpharma Thailand they will tell you they have no affiliation with the Mexican Bullpharma. Yet all the Mexican packaging says made in Thailand. They copied every single thing from the Thailand UGL in order to pass themselves off as being the same company. COUNTERFIT DETECTIVE CRACKS ANOTHER ONE
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I dont know about this dont know who is who tbh
Counterfeit Detective said:
Yep they wouldn't even give me a chance to send my bloods to them. They said it has to be 3rd party. A blood test is a sure thing tells all-out need to know about the product.
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They only accept product tests not bloods. Has to be 3rd party product test. see below
LevButlerov said:
I dont know your situation with napsgear but they dont respond to just bloods. You know how many customers of theirs scam just like this? say here is my bloods give me refund to get free gear and the bloods are fake or they didnt pin anything at all, MANY! I've talked to @jasonhill800 about it before.
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LevButlerov said:
First calm down and stop swearing, getting angry wouldn't fix anything here.


no its not enough @bigred411
you need bloods before and at least pics of your gear you are using opened

I dont know your situation with napsgear but they dont respond to just bloods. You know how many customers of theirs scam just like this? say here is my bloods give me refund to get free gear and the bloods are fake or they didnt pin anything at all, MANY! I've talked to @jasonhill800 about it before.

If you have many tiktok followers good for you, you should let them know why not? post your bloods too
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Are you retarded?
There at least 30 god dam post here about bull pharma being fake!
Wake up pull ur head out ur ass!
 
bigred411 said:
Are you retarded?
There at least 30 god dam post here about bull pharma being fake!
Wake up pull ur head out ur ass!
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Your last warning about calling names before ban.
and show me the 30 threads im waiting
 
Just fucking ban me! u already stole my money! Lol loser
Im terrified I cant see ur promotions for bunk gear anymore lol hahahah
They silence the truth! No different from eroids
@LevButlerov
 
We understand that without a 3rd party lab test we are not getting replacements or a refund which is crazy to me seeing just how many bunk bullpharma cases their are. Really at this point you shouldn't be asking for any lab test. You have already been shown 2 or 3 bunk ones just on this forum. Naps should be willing to replace any bought bullpharma for the past month or 2. Thats what good sources are supposed to do. Here is another question @jasonhill800. How many more orders of these Mexican labs are you guys gonna fulfill until you take them off your site. If you are at all.
 
bigred411 said:
Just fucking ban me! u already stole my money! Lol loser
Im terrified I cant see ur promotions for bunk gear anymore lol hahahah
They silence the truth! No different from eroids
@LevButlerov
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I'm surprised you're this immature, you know if you want results from napsgear you need to get proper product testing I dont understand why you behave like this.

and I'm a mod I dont work for napsgear, @jasonhill800 is their rep here
 
Counterfeit Detective said:
We understand that without a 3rd party lab test we are not getting replacements or a refund which is crazy to me seeing just how many bunk bullpharma cases their are. Really at this point you shouldn't be asking for any lab test. You have already been shown 2 or 3 bunk ones just on this forum. Naps should be willing to replace any bought bullpharma for the past month or 2. Thats what good sources are supposed to do. Here is another question @jasonhill800. How many more orders of these Mexican labs are you guys gonna fulfill until you take them off your site. If you are at all.
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I dont know bull pharma well tbh do you have janoshik independent done on them?
 
Dude stop being an idiot!
I spent $300 on the gear.
$200 on the blood work.
Im not spending another $200 on lab tests for fake gear. So I can piss away another $200 dollars. When we Clearly know that naps won't do shit anyway!
 
Counterfeit Detective said:
Funny thing is if you message Bullpharma Thailand they will tell you they have no affiliation with the Mexican Bullpharma. Yet all the Mexican packaging says made in Thailand. They copied every single thing from the Thailand UGL in order to pass themselves off as being the same company. COUNTERFIT DETECTIVE CRACKS ANOTHER ONE
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Oh no!! Labs copying other labs... if only it had never happened before... (see 3 versions of BD at one point) what's that? It has! Tomorrow I'm gonna invent the wheel lol

Even if it's a copy... what matters is what's inside. Establish that
 
bigred411 said:
Just fucking ban me! u already stole my money! Lol loser
Im terrified I cant see ur promotions for bunk gear anymore lol hahahah
They silence the truth! No different from eroids
@LevButlerov
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No one here stole f'all from you. And statements like that made in that way do NOT help you at all. And you do realize if we wanted to silence you you'd be banned now

Plus where's my cut
 
bigred411 said:
Dude stop being an idiot!
I spent $300 on the gear.
$200 on the blood work.
Im not spending another $200 on lab tests for fake gear. So I can piss away another $200 dollars. When we Clearly know that naps won't do shit anyway!
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You have not proved the bloods are yours, you haven't shown you used the gear, lets face it your claims are just like you, bullshit @bigred411 and now you're gone! suspended
 
bigred411 said:
Dude stop being an idiot!
I spent $300 on the gear.
$200 on the blood work.
Im not spending another $200 on lab tests for fake gear. So I can piss away another $200 dollars. When we Clearly know that naps won't do shit anyway!
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For the product quality issue we need gear testing report from the reputed lab.

We don't consider blood work report as gears may react differently with each individual depending upon their body condition.

If you think there is any issue with the gears they you need to provide the lab test result from the any reputed lab.

In that case if the gears are bunk then you'll get the compensation for the gears as well as the compensation for the lab test.

Thanks
Jason
 
jasonhill800 said:
For the product quality issue we need gear testing report from the reputed lab.

We don't consider blood work report as gears may react differently with each individual depending upon their body condition.

If you think there is any issue with the gears they you need to provide the lab test result from the any reputed lab.

In that case if the gears are bunk then you'll get the compensation for the gears as well as the compensation for the lab test.

Thanks
Jason
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But the problem is naps isn't going to give me my cash back if the test comes back as fake. Your gonna give me store credit. So we are losing another $200. Now obviously since their are so many unhappy customers with this product. Why does the customer have to do the testing? Again this is showing just how dedicated Naps is on protecting their customers. Naps should be doing the testing on all 3 of their Mexican ugl's. Naps is really showing their true colors with this problem. Yall are about to lose tons of buisness if you dont handle this the right way
 
I also have fake gear from naps! Bull pharma!

They sent out a "promotion" to promote bunk gear. The whole thing is a scam. You would figure all these people says it's fake.

They would start to listen or give a fuck?
They dont because they knowing sell fake gear!
For anyone reading this do dont buy from naps gear!
 
Counterfeit Detective said:
But the problem is naps isn't going to give me my cash back if the test comes back as fake. Your gonna give me store credit. So we are losing another $200. Now obviously since their are so many unhappy customers with this product. Why does the customer have to do the testing? Again this is showing just how dedicated Naps is on protecting their customers. Naps should be doing the testing on all 3 of their Mexican ugl's. Naps is really showing their true colors with this problem. Yall are about to lose tons of buisness if you dont handle this the right way
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I think if the testing shows fake they do give a refund tbh :D
 
gains4you said:
I also have fake gear from naps! Bull pharma!

They sent out a "promotion" to promote bunk gear. The whole thing is a scam. You would figure all these people says it's fake.

They would start to listen or give a fuck?
They dont because they knowing sell fake gear!
For anyone reading this do dont buy from naps gear!
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can you prove what you have is fake please? :D lets be honest here there is no evidence @gains4you
 
So u will pay for the lab testing and the gear?

If my gear was $500 and I sent every single bottle for testing at $200 a test $200 x 6 for testing plus the cost of the gear?
 
gains4you said:
So u will pay for the lab testing and the gear?

If my gear was $500 and I sent every single bottle for testing at $200 a test $200 x 6 for testing plus the cost of the gear?
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I think you're being a bit harsh here, I'm a mod here I'm not here to pay for you, lets be honest the situation is not good for anyone I see your side too @gains4you you would need to do the testing yourself and get refund from napsgear after
 
Yea they need to reimburse us for the testing. We already know the shit is fake. We already spent 200 on blood work now go spend another 250 on lab testing. Than we spent more on blood and test than the gear cost. U understand that ridiculous
 
LevButlerov said:
I think you're being a bit harsh here, I'm a mod here I'm not here to pay for you, lets be honest the situation is not good for anyone I see your side too @gains4you you would need to do the testing yourself and get refund from napsgear after
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Making the customers pay for testing is ridiculous because you have more than just 1 person claiming this. Their are dozens. Naps needs to quit bullshitting and test the products they sell themselves. Then post the results so all of us can verify. Naps will find that every bottle being sold is complete trash. Then make it up to your customers with a good replacement. Like I said this ain't just one individual we are talking about. NAP'S KNOWS ALL ABOUT THIS PROBLEM THEY HAVE BEEN OVERUN WITH SUPPORT TICKETS ON THE TOPIC. They need to test this stuff and atleast take it off the website for the time being. BUT IM WILLING TO BET THEY DO NIETHER
 
At this point I believe every mod on here is mentally retarded & being paid to support fake gear!

Like naps advertising and promoting fake gear. "Buy 3 get 1 free" we know it's fake but we don't care wink wink
 
In the mean time all of us that have gotten ripped off are going to bash and voice our problems in every forum that we can about naps not handling this issue correctly. Like I said naps needs to correct this problem accordingly because their financial future will definitely be effected if they sweep this problem under the rug
 
gains4you said:
Bro they knowing sold fake gear, they are thieves. & the mods are paid thieves!
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Im beginning to think the same thing. Kind of convenient that all their stock is out on every other ugl but the 3 Mexican labs they sell. Also the promotions they run along side it. You could be right they just might be in on it. Maybe that's why their most recent bullpharma test is from 2024. Prob cause after that everything they sold contained no gear
 
It's 100% what's going on! Than then paid mods are here defending it. They running a scam just like Indian phone scammers.

Hopefully we can save over people from being scammed & stolen from.
 
gains4you said:
I also have fake gear from naps! Bull pharma!

They sent out a "promotion" to promote bunk gear. The whole thing is a scam. You would figure all these people says it's fake.

They would start to listen or give a fuck?
They dont because they knowing sell fake gear!
For anyone reading this do dont buy from naps gear!
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You'll be ready to post proof right?
 
Check this out. These are the lab tests for the bullpharma posted on napsgear. If you take one add it to AI and ask it if the document is authentic this is the answer you get
 

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So that shows, in Mexican, that they were slightly under-dosed. 247.5 vs 250mg

You used AI cos god forbid you look at stuff and use your own judgement and you don't trust a test done by a lab at a university? Yes the preferred standard is jano.

That's it right?

It DOES need to be more up to date than Feb 24 @jasonhill800
 
gains4you said:
It's 100% what's going on! Than then paid mods are here defending it. They running a scam just like Indian phone scammers.

Hopefully we can save over people from being scammed & stolen from.
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How dare you!! I'm gonna need you to send me $1000 in Amazon vouchers via our 0800 number via my Indian office ;)
 
Counterfeit Detective said:
Im beginning to think the same thing. Kind of convenient that all their stock is out on every other ugl but the 3 Mexican labs they sell. Also the promotions they run along side it. You could be right they just might be in on it. Maybe that's why their most recent bullpharma test is from 2024. Prob cause after that everything they sold contained no gear
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Or... just don't buy it.
 
They simply copied the university logo and made their own document dude. WtF. If you dont see after what I just posted then yall are either retarded democrats or your in on it.
 
Counterfeit Detective said:
Read the damn post it says the frigging documents are fake in 4 different ways. Are you fuggin blind
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Nope. It says 'several' (not 4) then gives ONE example (Universtity lab named).

And you'll get better replies and more support if you avoid stuff like 'fuggin blind'
 
Im blasting this news allover the place now. NAPS ARE THEIVES AND THE MODS ARE IN ON IT ON THESE FORUMS. its not rocket science. If yall continue to push naps as a verified source yall are just as guilty
 
Counterfeit Detective said:
Thats because my screenshot didn't shoot the whole screen AI the pictures yourself you dumb fuck. You will see it says several ways its fake
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Oh now I'm a dumb fuck cos YOUR screenshot doesn't show all the image

Explain how YOU not providing the whole image lowers MY IQ?

Remember what I said about support...and you double down by insulting me for YOUR mistake
 
Mobster said:
Oh now I'm a dumb fuck cos YOUR screenshot doesn't show all the image

Explain how YOU not providing the whole image lowers MY IQ?

Remember what I said about support...and you double down by insulting me for YOUR mistake
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Lmao cause my phone only shoots the screen dumb ass. I would have to scroll down and take another screenshot. Your dumb as hell buddy need anything else explained
 
No but for real. I AM A REAL DETECTIVE. I HAVE KEPT ALL OF YOU ONLINE LONG ENOUGH TO GET THE IP ADDRESS FROM EVERYONE WHO PARTICIPATED. YOU WILL BE HEARING FROM US SHORTLY. THANKYOU AND HAVE GOOD DAY AT THE GYM
 
Counterfeit Detective said:
No but for real. I AM A REAL DETECTIVE. I HAVE KEPT ALL OF YOU ONLINE LONG ENOUGH TO GET THE IP ADDRESS FROM EVERYONE WHO PARTICIPATED. YOU WILL BE HEARING FROM US SHORTLY. THANKYOU AND HAVE GOOD DAY AT THE GYM
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@jasonhill800 you are first on my list we need to talk about your friends. I WILL HAVE SOMEONE COME TO YOU TOMARROW.
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you should talk to napsgear directly try to get this resolved with them, they do NOT own bull pharma they just resell it
doing testing and showing them its fake is the best idea
@jasonhill800 check
 
Counterfeit Detective said:
But the problem is naps isn't going to give me my cash back if the test comes back as fake. Your gonna give me store credit. So we are losing another $200. Now obviously since their are so many unhappy customers with this product. Why does the customer have to do the testing? Again this is showing just how dedicated Naps is on protecting their customers. Naps should be doing the testing on all 3 of their Mexican ugl's. Naps is really showing their true colors with this problem. Yall are about to lose tons of buisness if you dont handle this the right way
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You’ve been posting the same thing here for the last 3–4 days but still haven’t shared any order number or ticket ID.

Without any order details, how is anyone supposed to know if your claims are legit or if you’re just creating noise along with a few others?

Just share your order ID or ticket number first, then we can actually look into it. Until then, I’d ask everyone not to take these repeated posts seriously.
 
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