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Hello everyone. I really need your help here.

I am a crossfit athlete looking to improve overall performance (increase both endurance and strength)

Age 24
Weight 81kg
Height 1.76 cm

I have been running the following cycle for 6 weeks at the moment and is supposed to last for 16 weeks.
Test e 250mg per week
Eq 600 mg per week
Gw 20 mg every day
Sr 9009 30 mg every day

Over the last few days i have been getting huge pumps on my lower back that begin even from my warm up, leaving my unable even to train at low intensities.

I have used the same sarms before so im sure that the problem comes from the AAS. It is my first injectable cycle. I have used tbol before and gave me the same pumps thats why i stopped it after learning about the back pumps from orals.


So any recommendations?

Should i lower the dosage of test to 150mg and eq at 300-400?

Thank you
 
You do the same thing as you would for any Pumps ~ Orals or Oils.

Taurine @ 3 grams a day to start, some Guys need more.

Magnesium Chelate @ 400 Mg a day.......................................... JP
P.S.
Magnesium is responsible for Proper Muscle Contractions, along with 300 other Enzymatic Functions.
And around 80% of people are Deficient in Magnesium.
 
I have tried taurine even at 15grams with no effect. I am also supplementing with the magnesium.

Therefore something else needs to change i guess
 
anabolichippie said:
Hello everyone. I really need your help here.

I am a crossfit athlete looking to improve overall performance (increase both endurance and strength)

Age 24
Weight 81kg
Height 1.76 cm

I have been running the following cycle for 6 weeks at the moment and is supposed to last for 16 weeks.
Test e 250mg per week
Eq 600 mg per week
Gw 20 mg every day
Sr 9009 30 mg every day

Over the last few days i have been getting huge pumps on my lower back that begin even from my warm up, leaving my unable even to train at low intensities.

I have used the same sarms before so im sure that the problem comes from the AAS. It is my first injectable cycle. I have used tbol before and gave me the same pumps thats why i stopped it after learning about the back pumps from orals.


So any recommendations?

Should i lower the dosage of test to 150mg and eq at 300-400?

Thank you
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My two cents is you are right it is the AAS assuming your sarms are legit. I do crossfit and endurance events along with strength training. AAS will increase your RBC especially EQ at 600. Even with 3G of taurine a day you won't be able to midigate the pumps. You can try and lower your doses but if your goal is to increase your performance doing intense metcons I would get off AAS and run a proper PCT. I would then run a sarms only stack. I ran ostarine, s4, gw, and sr9009 with hcgenerate and had great results
 
Thanks. Do you think 125mg test and 400mg will be good? Or should i stop test completely?

I also have a question abot lgd 4033. It wont cause any back pumps right?

Thank you
 
anabolichippie said:
Thanks. Do you think 125mg test and 400mg will be good? Or should i stop test completely?

I also have a question abot lgd 4033. It wont cause any back pumps right?

Thank you
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I would at least keep your TRT dose of test in there. 400mg of EQ looks good.

LGD should not cause pumps if it is legit LGD.
 
Update: more than 2 weeks have passed since my last injection and absolutely nothing has changed. The pumps are still there and i can't train. I have been also taking taurine, potassium and magnesium daily.

Do you guys recommend anything?
 
anabolichippie said:
Update: more than 2 weeks have passed since my last injection and absolutely nothing has changed. The pumps are still there and i can't train. I have been also taking taurine, potassium and magnesium daily.

Do you guys recommend anything?
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Waiting until it's out of your system.
 
it will take up to 5 weeks to really clear out man

in the future don't listen to cookie cutters online for cycle advice. i've said a million times steroids are not a good idea for those who are in endurance sports, everyone thinks steroids are the answer to everything. SARM's are superior here
 
anabolichippie said:
Update: more than 2 weeks have passed since my last injection and absolutely nothing has changed. The pumps are still there and i can't train. I have been also taking taurine, potassium and magnesium daily.

Do you guys recommend anything?
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Remember that when you stop your cycle - it doesn't stop immediately. It takes weeks for the steroid esters to fully clear out of your body. The pumps should go away in a couple more weeks.

Check out the magnesium supplement I recommended.
 
Also curious if you're using for Crossfit I assume it's because you want to compete? If you make the games via team or individual you will get tested 100%. Regionals are a crap shot but they are testing more and more and to be honest if you look like you're on something the more likely you are to get tested from what I'm seeing. EQ is a terrible choice if you are it's going to stay in your system for likely a year so you can kiss this season goodbye. Also they are testing for SARMS, Ricky Garard tested positive for GW and teselone. Others were busted for Osta. I've never been able to find any clear guidance on how long SARMS are detectable in your system so it's a crap shoot on those but I'd give plenty of time off if you go in that direction.
 
wakeboard said:
Also curious if you're using for Crossfit I assume it's because you want to compete? If you make the games via team or individual you will get tested 100%. Regionals are a crap shot but they are testing more and more and to be honest if you look like you're on something the more likely you are to get tested from what I'm seeing. EQ is a terrible choice if you are it's going to stay in your system for likely a year so you can kiss this season goodbye. Also they are testing for SARMS, Ricky Garard tested positive for GW and teselone. Others were busted for Osta. I've never been able to find any clear guidance on how long SARMS are detectable in your system so it's a crap shoot on those but I'd give plenty of time off if you go in that direction.
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Im not competing this year, I just wanted to boost my performance. Yeah recently the most athletes that get caught are with SARMS.

Therefore from what im assuming the best things to be used for Crossfit are : GW/SR9009, SARMS , EQ up to 300mg (when not competing)

Does test at 100-125 mg needs to be used when EQ dosage is that low throughout the cycle? Or is test still going to produce more negatives than positives?
 
I will not compete this season. I was just doing it for performance enhancement (off season). So to conclude things I have some questions.

So the things that WORK for Crossfit are GW/SR 9009, SARMS, EQ up to 300mg right?

Also when EQ is ran that low does it need test as a base (100-125mg) or still the results from test will be more negative than positive?
 
anabolichippie said:
I will not compete this season. I was just doing it for performance enhancement (off season). So to conclude things I have some questions.

So the things that WORK for Crossfit are GW/SR 9009, SARMS, EQ up to 300mg right?

Also when EQ is ran that low does it need test as a base (100-125mg) or still the results from test will be more negative than positive?
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you can run a test base of a TRT dose. or you can not. everyone is going to tell you that 'you must run a test base or else' yet the funny thing is for 40 years bodybuilders avoided test from the 60s through the 2000's. some guru in the early 2000's posts on a forum to use test as a base and now everyone parrots it.

test will not help you with crossfit, it will hinder you. it is androgenic and it is estrogenic.
 
anabolichippie said:
I will not compete this season. I was just doing it for performance enhancement (off season). So to conclude things I have some questions.

So the things that WORK for Crossfit are GW/SR 9009, SARMS, EQ up to 300mg right?

Also when EQ is ran that low does it need test as a base (100-125mg) or still the results from test will be more negative than positive?
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In a nut shell - yes.

The problem with using steroids like EQ is that they are going to open up a whole bag of worms for you. They will shut down your natural testosterone production hard which will require you to run a full PCT after your cycle (which is very expensive).

Personally - I would just run GW and SR9009. They aren't hormones so no PCT is required. If you want to add other SARMS like S4, ostarine etc. then only a mini PCT with a good natural testosterone booster is needed.

EQ really doesn't do as much for endurance as people think. Plus it has a really long ester attached to it so you need to use it at least 6-7 weeks to even notice a benefit from it.

Check out this video I made on PPAR agonists such as cardarine -> https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...ds/evolutionary-radio-tv-now-live!-55836.html
 
I love eq and I did an eq only cycle at 300 mg a week in preparation for a competition. This was before I knew about sarms. As it's already been covered I don't think eq is worth it for your purposes, it's still an AAS and will shut you down. I would stick with PPAR's like GW and SR9009. With respect to the sr9009 I saw the most benefit with a 20 mg dose preworkout. I liked ostarine the most out of the sarms I've tried. You can throw the eq in there and run hcgenerate es with it. Don't think the pumps will be that bad but they will be more than sarms alone. I don't remember them being an issue at all
 
Al5920 said:
I love eq and I did an eq only cycle at 300 mg a week in preparation for a competition. This was before I knew about sarms. As it's already been covered I don't think eq is worth it for your purposes, it's still an AAS and will shut you down. I would stick with PPAR's like GW and SR9009. With respect to the sr9009 I saw the most benefit with a 20 mg dose preworkout. I liked ostarine the most out of the sarms I've tried. You can throw the eq in there and run hcgenerate es with it. Don't think the pumps will be that bad but they will be more than sarms alone. I don't remember them being an issue at all
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Was the only eq cycle at 300mg worth it? I mean did you notice any gains in endurance and strength? Im pretty sure that sr9009 and gw are far better for endurance but did eq only give you at least some strength?
 
anabolichippie said:
Was the only eq cycle at 300mg worth it? I mean did you notice any gains in endurance and strength? Im pretty sure that sr9009 and gw are far better for endurance but did eq only give you at least some strength?
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Yes I noticed a decent increase in endurance. I think you would be safe with a 300 mg a week dose. Hcgenerate es on cycle should keep you from filling like shit. I personally hate suppressing my HTPA and the sides I get from from nolva and climid during PCT. Namely the clomid. I stick to sarms now for the most part. IMO GW is superior to EQ for endurance but after awhile I gain a tolerance. I like a stack of GW, SR9009, and ostarine. I would say run the eq in addition if your willing to do a full proper PCT afterwards. It would be a hell of an endurance stack but honestly the bulk of your benifits will come from the PPAR's. While I don't do crossfit nearly as much any more I still do several metcons a week along with a compound movement day along with standard strength training. I compete in endurance events regularly and sarms are a perfect match. I would stay away from the test even at trt dose. I love a low test and eq cycle but for what your doing it will only add complications. Just my 2 cents
 
Not trying to offend anybody, but I've tried OL cardar1ne and I didn't get any endurance difference. I do crossfit, swim, soccer and currently Trainning for a triathlon. The only thing I've tried that has worked for me is ephadrine.

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ihatbananas said:
Not trying to offend anybody, but I've tried OL cardar1ne and I didn't get any endurance difference. I do crossfit, swim, soccer and currently Trainning for a triathlon. The only thing I've tried that has worked for me is ephadrine.

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Then you likely took a bunk product. Nothing I've ever taken increases my endurance like GW. Ephedrine is a stim. It may help you breath a little easier but it also increases heart rate and blood pressure. If you are competiting in events such as crossfit and take a bunch of ephedrine you will crash. GW actually lowers my heart rate. My resting heart rate averages about 53 beats per minute. When I'm taking GW it's averages 46 beats per minute. Fact
 
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