Cycle advice

[HumbleBeast]

5' 8" (ish)
39 yo
240 lbs

Just started running a cycle of 400 Deca / 550 test E. About to add Anadrol for about 4 weeks.

At about 8 weeks I plan to switch to Tren. Either:

300 Tren Ace , 600 EQ , 600-750 Test E

OR

600 Tren E with 750 to 900 Test E

Just trying to make sure that's sufficient for the goal of lean muscle building because I've seen far higher numbers but have only been at 500 to 750 Test and 400 Deca, 600 EQ, or 4 to 500 tren.

Honestly don't think I like EQ but didn't want to stack Deca with Tren A.



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[Mobster]

Don't worry about higher numbers - if low works, use low. What's your bodyfat level?

 

[stevesmi]

how experienced are you with using these compounds?

that is A LOT of gear man. you are talking 2g of gear a week!! i've never taken that much gear, it simply is not necessary unless you want to be a pro bodybuilder

 

[HumbleBeast]

Don't worry about higher numbers - if low works, use low. What's your bodyfat level?

Body fat is currently higher than I'd like. I'm usually a natural 10-12% but noticed coming off a cycle my Body fat increases to 13-15%.

I'm probably around 12/13% right now.

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[KLAB55]

5 ft 8 240 lbs at 12% bf........ id sure like to see pics of that build

 

[HumbleBeast]

how experienced are you with using these compounds?

that is A LOT of gear man. you are talking 2g of gear a week!! i've never taken that much gear, it simply is not necessary unless you want to be a pro bodybuilder

Never ran a FULL cycle but have used all of these compounds at some point...and let's just say I want to be a top tier pro bodybuilder. Experience is novice because I've had success naturally.

Usually run test at 5 and place other compounds around that...but need to take it up safely OR just put the right combo together and continue the work around it.


I have an understanding of all compounds just still gaining experience with use and putting them together in a cycle with MAX results.

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[Kyle Dreher]

I am currently running adromix with Winston tabs, dropping bf like crazy and strength and libido through the roof thanks to Napsgear! They never dissapoint!

 

[RoySimpson]

Any AI or PCT in your cycle plans?

 

[Masonic Bodybuilder]

5 ft 8 240 lbs at 12% bf........ id sure like to see pics of that build

Absolutely. I am 5'7" and if I was that big with that body fat I would look like a cartoon.

 

[HumbleBeast]

Absolutely. I am 5'7" and if I was that big with that body fat I would look like a cartoon.

Sitting in the 230s right now but trying to grow lean and get back up to around 250/260. If not I'll compete 212.

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[abominable swoleman]

5' 8" (ish)
39 yo
240 lbs

Just started running a cycle of 400 Deca / 550 test E. About to add Anadrol for about 4 weeks.

At about 8 weeks I plan to switch to Tren. Either:

300 Tren Ace , 600 EQ , 600-750 Test E

OR

600 Tren E with 750 to 900 Test E

Just trying to make sure that's sufficient for the goal of lean muscle building because I've seen far higher numbers but have only been at 500 to 750 Test and 400 Deca, 600 EQ, or 4 to 500 tren.

Honestly don't think I like EQ but didn't want to stack Deca with Tren A.



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whats your bf and 8 weeks of deca isint shit

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nevermind i saw the pic and btw tren e sucks and you can def run tren and deca but i would do it like this
1-18 test 600
1-14 deca 400
1-4 anadrol 100 mg ed
3-9 tren a 50 mg eod
10-15 dbol 30 mg ed

 

[HumbleBeast]

Ran test/eq then test only for a few weeks. Started with extreme low test levels due to previous issue with fake gear. Finally found a decent source apparently.

After about 4 weeks of test e only at trt doses my recent labs show that test is close to 700 (normal) up from about 50 HOWEVER my FSH and LH are .1. Straight shut down. How do I recover?

I have no gyno or anything but fatigue and libido is affected. My body comp also has changed. No problem with ed outside of blood flow. I want to fix this and understand it before increasing ANY AAS compounds. Looking at adding GH and some other compounds to grow and do a total body recomp so I can compete on the pro stage.

Any advice on how to adjust and prevent this in the future?



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[Mobster]

Ran test/eq then test only for a few weeks. Started with extreme low test levels due to previous issue with fake gear. Finally found a decent source apparently.

After about 4 weeks of test e only at trt doses my recent labs show that test is close to 700 (normal) up from about 50 HOWEVER my FSH and LH are .1. Straight shut down. How do I recover?

I have no gyno or anything but fatigue and libido is affected. My body comp also has changed. No problem with ed outside of blood flow. I want to fix this and understand it before increasing ANY AAS compounds. Looking at adding GH and some other compounds to grow and do a total body recomp so I can compete on the pro stage.

Any advice on how to adjust and prevent this in the future?



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What was your PCT?

 

[stevesmi]

Ran test/eq then test only for a few weeks. Started with extreme low test levels due to previous issue with fake gear. Finally found a decent source apparently.

After about 4 weeks of test e only at trt doses my recent labs show that test is close to 700 (normal) up from about 50 HOWEVER my FSH and LH are .1. Straight shut down. How do I recover?

I have no gyno or anything but fatigue and libido is affected. My body comp also has changed. No problem with ed outside of blood flow. I want to fix this and understand it before increasing ANY AAS compounds. Looking at adding GH and some other compounds to grow and do a total body recomp so I can compete on the pro stage.

Any advice on how to adjust and prevent this in the future?



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the test is still in your system. it takes 5-6 weeks for it to compeltely clear.

the 700 # is exogenous hormones. the 0 LH is your pits being completely shut down (which is normal)

you better get on PCT ASAP

 

[muskate]

Ran test/eq then test only for a few weeks. Started with extreme low test levels due to previous issue with fake gear. Finally found a decent source apparently.

After about 4 weeks of test e only at trt doses my recent labs show that test is close to 700 (normal) up from about 50 HOWEVER my FSH and LH are .1. Straight shut down. How do I recover?

I have no gyno or anything but fatigue and libido is affected. My body comp also has changed. No problem with ed outside of blood flow. I want to fix this and understand it before increasing ANY AAS compounds. Looking at adding GH and some other compounds to grow and do a total body recomp so I can compete on the pro stage.

Any advice on how to adjust and prevent this in the future?



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Your natural testosterone production is shut down because the steroids are still in your system.

You need to run a PCT to restore natural testosterone production -> https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/anabolic-steroids-peds/perfect-pct-simplified!-49252.html

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[HumbleBeast]

What was your PCT?

Did not do a pct. Started trt doses of test e which increased my hormone levels and balanced my blood work. Doctor said to continue test BUT of course I would need to add other compounds for my goals.

I didn't want to do that without first understanding what these things mean. Doctor said this wasn't a concern but of course the intent is to be healthy before increasing any AAS use.

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[HumbleBeast]

Your natural testosterone production is shut down because the steroids are still in your system.

You need to run a PCT to restore natural testosterone production -> https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/anabolic-steroids-peds/perfect-pct-simplified!-49252.html

If you want HGH - check out the forum sponsor mail order HGH. You can send me a private message, visitor message or email (link in my signature) if you want a code to use on the website

So if I understand you correctly I am fine. As long as I'm still taking steroids (test) then this is normal and there are no concerns. Which is turn means I can begin a lean growth cycle, right?

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[Satan62]

You need to do a PCT and doing all that gear. That's gonna shut you down hard. Some clomid, nolvadex, to start.

 

[muskate]

So if I understand you correctly I am fine. As long as I'm still taking steroids (test) then this is normal and there are no concerns. Which is turn means I can begin a lean growth cycle, right?

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I would run a PCT and restore your HPTA function before doing another cycle man.

The longer you are on steroids, the harder it will be for your natural testosterone production to bounce back. I don't recommend cycles longer then 16 weeks. Recovery really starts to become an issue once you push your cycle lengths past that length.