Low E2

[Tankie]

Figured there’s a lot of good people out here that may not be following my log who could offer their advice. Both good and bad it’s all good!

E2 is smashed down to 5 pg/ml. I would have never known had it not been for the bloodwork. Couple of questions and yes everyone reacts differently:

What kind of turnaround time am I looking at?
Anything to assist raising E2?
What adjustment to dosage do you suggest?

Lesson learned: stick to 2:1 ratio and then adjust post bloodwork. Currently in the middle of week 10. Took bloods middle of week 8. Weeks 4-9 where I wasn’t 2:1 listed below. No longer on Tren.

Week 4-6
Test Cyp 400
Tren Ace 160
EQ 240
NPP 210

Week 7-8
Test Cyp 500
EQ 360
Tren 200
NPP 300

Week 9
Tren 250
Test 625
EQ 450

Shoot from the hip guess:
Test 600
NPP 400
EQ 300

 

[toddthelineman]

Hcg would do it, test no ester. Or a big shot of test with no more eq, I suppose, if you don’t want to buy anything. I have never had to deal with low e2, so a more experienced response is sure to come soon. I do know what raises it though hahaha

 

[Tankie]

Hcg would do it, test no ester. Or a big shot of test with no more eq, I suppose, if you don’t want to buy anything. I have never had to deal with low e2, so a more experienced response is sure to come soon. I do know what raises it though hahaha

Appreciate the feedback. Trying to get a feel of what others have to say until the Professor @LevButlerov sees my log.

When I dropped to 19 on a Primo and test cycle I knew something was off. This time nothing.
In my case, EQ smashes E2 much more than Primo.

 

[BritishCanadian]

Appreciate the feedback. Trying to get a feel of what others have to say until the Professor @LevButlerov sees my log.

When I dropped to 19 on a Primo and test cycle I knew something was off. This time nothing.
In my case, EQ smashes E2 much more than Primo.

If i recall correctly @Dreamer had similar issues, and used test prop to resolve it, if you check out his latest log its discussed there.

 

[Tankie]

I did read that in his log but didn’t see that he used test prop. Genius idea! He was down to 14 per the conversion.

Good stuff brother I appreciate that.

I’m curious how long it took him to balance it back out. You tagged him so maybe he’ll chime in when available.

 

[Demon_throne]

Eq is a great steroid but it's also like dropping a nuke on your e2. For a lot of people.

Everyone is different but it is a lot harder to dial in then something like primo or an ai.

A lot of people also skip over doing a sensitive e2 test because your standard one dose not differentiate between e1 and e2

 

[Tankie]

Eq is a great steroid but it's also like dropping a nuke on your e2. For a lot of people.

Everyone is different but it is a lot harder to dial in then something like primo or an ai.

A lot of people also skip over doing a sensitive e2 test because your standard one dose not differentiate between e1 and e2

My apologies… Why skip over doing a sensitive e2 test if a standard doesn’t differentiate. Mine was a sensitive

 

[Tankie]

If i recall correctly @Dreamer had similar issues, and used test prop to resolve it, if you check out his latest log its discussed there.

Forgot to hit reply button. Thanks for the feedback

 

[Demon_throne]

My apologies… Why skip over doing a sensitive e2 test if a standard doesn’t differentiate. Mine was a sensitive

It was more a general statement bro, I've had friends that are on eq come back and say their e2 was 200, and they were on 600 test and 400 eq.

I then told them to go get an LCMS and it came back as

For me personally it was about a 3:1 ratio but I was a lot fatter at the time no idea what it's going to be like next time I run eq

 

[Tankie]

It was more a general statement bro, I've had friends that are on eq come back and say their e2 was 200, and they were on 600 test and 400 eq.

I then told them to go get an LCMS and it came back as View attachment 200106


For me personally it was about a 3:1 ratio but I was a lot fatter at the time no idea what it's going to be like next time I run eq

I get it now lol! Im probably around 15% body fat. I definitely should have started off 2:1 but it is what it is.
3:1 damn I’m trying to not stay under 300 EQ but definitely don’t want 900 test

 

[Demon_throne]

I get it now lol! Im probably around 15% body fat. I definitely should have started off 2:1 but it is what it is.
3:1 damn I’m trying to not stay under 300 EQ but definitely don’t want 900 test

750:250? Just remember adjustments down or up coming from eq are slow

Another one of my mates were running

900 t 350 eq 200npp and had very similar sensitive e2 to the one I posted above as well I think his came back at 80.

I'm no expert at blood work but my mates come to me when they have issues and I try to help trouble shoot.

All depends on how you aromatise I guess

I think swcc is running 20:1 ratio

 

[Tankie]

I think swcc is running 20:1 ratio

It was more a general statement bro, I've had friends that are on eq come back and say their e2 was 200, and they were on 600 test and 400 eq.

I then told them to go get an LCMS and it came back as View attachment 200106


For me personally it was about a 3:1 ratio but I was a lot fatter at the time no idea what it's going to be like next time I run eq

That’s a little better but not passing. That conversion to how mine is measured comes up 16. My measurement is in pg

 

[Tankie]

900 t 350 eq 200npp and had very similar sensitive e2 to the one I posted above as well I think his came back at 80.

I would feel much better with this number. Conversion is 21.
Lower test and EQ a little and double the NPP and it’s on lol!

 

[Tankie]

If i recall correctly @Dreamer had similar issues, and used test prop to resolve it, if you check out his latest log its discussed there.

Just ordered some test prop brother. Might be a couple days but that’s alright. Thanks again!!!

 

[Demon_throne]

I would feel much better with this number. Conversion is 21.
Lower test and EQ a little and double the NPP and it’s on lol!

That mates coach had him on 1:1 test to eq at 500:500,

He was complaining about sore still joints no drive not feeling like he can recover, I gave him a bottle of test p and said go jam 2ml in your ass he then reached out to his coach and they adjusted to the test to eq that I started above. Where he has been feeling rather good ahah felt even better once they added the npp

 

[Coolguy]

Everyone's different to be fair.
Hcg or test prop should help

 

[Tankie]

That mates coach had him on 1:1 test to eq at 500:500,

He was complaining about sore still joints no drive not feeling like he can recover, I gave him a bottle of test p and said go jam 2ml in your ass he then reached out to his coach and they adjusted to the test to eq that I started above. Where he has been feeling rather good ahah felt even better once they added the npp

This is why this site is so great. Communication and people wanting to help others.

I know we’re all different but talking like this is at least giving me somewhere to start vs throwing shit on a wall and hoping it sticks.

Appreciate you brother. A big thank you!

 

[Tankie]

Everyone's different to be fair.
Hcg or test prop should help

I agree totally. I think if I was ready to quit the cycle I would have entertained the HCG. I did nail down some test prop.
I don’t feel the side effects but I would like to get back to normal sooner than later lol.

 

[Demon_throne]

This is why this site is so great. Communication and people wanting to help others.

I know we’re all different but talking like this is at least giving me somewhere to start vs throwing shit on a wall and hoping it sticks.

Appreciate you brother. A big thank you!

Just remember when you are ready to come off eq keep your test higher for a few weeks(I typically suggest 4 weeks at the same dosage test) then lower it, don't slash and drop it down too fast just because of the super long half life of eq last thing you want is to be coming off cycle and that's when you fully crash your e2

 

[Tankie]

Just remember when you are ready to come off eq keep your test higher for a few weeks(I typically suggest 4 weeks at the same dosage test) then lower it, don't slash and drop it down too fast just because of the super long half life of eq last thing you want is to be coming off cycle and that's when you fully crash your e2

More words of wisdom! It’s like a 14 day half life I think I heard on one of the podcast. Coming off in May sometime so that’s like all summer lol

 

[Pigsy]

Appreciate the feedback. Trying to get a feel of what others have to say until the Professor @LevButlerov sees my log.

When I dropped to 19 on a Primo and test cycle I knew something was off. This time nothing.
In my case, EQ smashes E2 much more than Primo.

In Australia, we see this all the time with eq smashing E2. Hcg will help raise it, test no ester/test p. To raise it.

 

[Tankie]

In Australia, we see this all the time with eq smashing E2. Hcg will help raise it, test no ester/test p. To raise it.

Thank you sir! Test P on order. What’s your thoughts on bumping up NPP?

 

[Pigsy]

Thank you sir! Test P on order. What’s your thoughts on bumping up NPP?

Personally I use 200 to 300mg npp in all my cycles. Works a treat for myself

 

[Allupfromhere]

Figured there’s a lot of good people out here that may not be following my log who could offer their advice. Both good and bad it’s all good!

E2 is smashed down to 5 pg/ml. I would have never known had it not been for the bloodwork. Couple of questions and yes everyone reacts differently:

What kind of turnaround time am I looking at?
Anything to assist raising E2?
What adjustment to dosage do you suggest?

Lesson learned: stick to 2:1 ratio and then adjust post bloodwork. Currently in the middle of week 10. Took bloods middle of week 8. Weeks 4-9 where I wasn’t 2:1 listed below. No longer on Tren.

Week 4-6
Test Cyp 400
Tren Ace 160
EQ 240
NPP 210

Week 7-8
Test Cyp 500
EQ 360
Tren 200
NPP 300

Week 9
Tren 250
Test 625
EQ 450

Shoot from the hip guess:
Test 600
NPP 400
EQ 300

EQ smashes E2 much more than Primo.

Significantly.

I get it now lol! Im probably around 15% body fat. I definitely should have started off 2:1 but it is what it is.
3:1 damn I’m trying to not stay under 300 EQ but definitely don’t want 900 test

Use something else as the main anabolic driver then brother. Get you test dose high enough to optimize e2 and use eq as a lever to do so if high aromatisation is and issue.
Push something like masteron as the additional anabolic load as it doesnt convert to e2. If high dht is a problem for you then something like npp can be useful if you arent over sensitive to progestenic compounds.

A major thing so many people miss here with using eq is 1, its much easier to lower e2 then it is to bring it up.

Leveraging a low dose ai while we adjust levels is less hostile then over shooting eq and nuking estrogen.

Something that is always missed also is there is no set ratio for an individual even when you have found a ratio that works at a particular dose.

I'll explain,

Eq isn’t just sitting there neatly balancing out your estrogen based on a fixed ratio. It might feel like that at a certain dose, but once you start pushing things up or down, the whole dynamic changes.

Aromatisation from testosterone isn’t a straight line. It’s more like a curve. You might handle 300 test sweet, bump to 500 and suddenly estrogen climbs way harder than expected. That doesn’t mean the compound changed… it means you’ve hit a different part of your aromatisation curve.

So if you were running, say, a 2:1 test:eq ratio and it felt perfect at one dose, that same ratio at a higher/lower dose can feel completely different. Estrogen might run away, or in some cases you might even feel too dry depending on how everything interacts in your system.

That’s why relying on ratios is a bit of a trap.
What actually matters is understanding your response across multiple doses:

Where you feel stable
Where estrogen starts climbing faster
Where sides kick in

Because there’s usually a point where things shift quickly rather than gradually.

So instead of chasing a perfect ratio, you’re better off learning your own aromatisation curve and adjusting based on how you respond at each level.

 

[Tankie]

Personally I use 200 to 300mg npp in all my cycles. Works a treat for myself

I enjoy it also. Might give it just a time y bump for the time being. Thank you again!

 

[Coolguy]

Personally I use 200 to 300mg npp in all my cycles. Works a treat for myself

I'm the same love npp

 

[Tankie]

Significantly.

Use something else as the main anabolic driver then brother. Get you test dose high enough to optimize e2 and use eq as a lever to do so if high aromatisation is and issue.
Push something like masteron as the additional anabolic load as it doesnt convert to e2. If high dht is a problem for you then something like npp can be useful if you arent over sensitive to progestenic compounds.

A major thing so many people miss here with using eq is 1, its much easier to lower e2 then it is to bring it up.

Leveraging a low dose ai while we adjust levels is less hostile then over shooting eq and nuking estrogen.

Something that is always missed also is there is no set ratio for an individual even when you have found a ratio that works at a particular dose.

I'll explain,

Eq isn’t just sitting there neatly balancing out your estrogen based on a fixed ratio. It might feel like that at a certain dose, but once you start pushing things up or down, the whole dynamic changes.

Aromatisation from testosterone isn’t a straight line. It’s more like a curve. You might handle 300 test sweet, bump to 500 and suddenly estrogen climbs way harder than expected. That doesn’t mean the compound changed… it means you’ve hit a different part of your aromatisation curve.

So if you were running, say, a 2:1 test:eq ratio and it felt perfect at one dose, that same ratio at a higher/lower dose can feel completely different. Estrogen might run away, or in some cases you might even feel too dry depending on how everything interacts in your system.

That’s why relying on ratios is a bit of a trap.
What actually matters is understanding your response across multiple doses:

Where you feel stable
Where estrogen starts climbing faster
Where sides kick in

Because there’s usually a point where things shift quickly rather than gradually.

So instead of chasing a perfect ratio, you’re better off learning your own aromatisation curve and adjusting based on how you respond at each level.

That was real right there and I appreciate everything you said. There’s nothing I didn’t comprehend.
First run with EQ and I do like it, it’s mild, but it smoked my E2.
I’m keeping a really good log so I will have something to reference when I travel down this road again.
Seems like everyone that talks EQ dose it’s a ratio and that’s obviously not the case at all.

Thank you again for taking the time to write that up. Very much appreciated!

 

[Nasser1997o2]

That’s why you ignore the gear boomers telling you to run eq super high or saying “eq only works at 600mg”

Eq is my favourite secondary compound, but it’s hard to dial in.

You could smash some dbol if you have any on hand. That might work

 

[jerseyshoremuscles]

Dbol is the best way to increase estrogen. Discontinue all the gear expect testosterone.
All the compounds interfere the way testosterone converts to estrogen.

 

[Tankie]

That’s why you ignore the gear boomers telling you to run eq super high or saying “eq only works at 600mg”

That’s kinda who is in my head but saying anything under 300 is pointless. I don’t want to climb to 500 but not really in for 200 either. Just need to get it dialed in. Part of learning

You could smash some dbol if you have any on hand. That might work

I’m not the smartest guy but when I bought test p today I grabbed some dbol thinking that exact thing. Nothing crazy but wouldn’t hurt you know.

 

[Tankie]

Dbol is the best way to increase estrogen. Discontinue all the gear expect testosterone.
All the compounds interfere the way testosterone converts to estrogen.

I was thinking the same thing. Grabbed some with my order today.
For my Fall bulk I was gonna steer away from it for that exact reason but actually may have a need for it now.

 

[LevButlerov]

Figured there’s a lot of good people out here that may not be following my log who could offer their advice. Both good and bad it’s all good!

E2 is smashed down to 5 pg/ml. I would have never known had it not been for the bloodwork. Couple of questions and yes everyone reacts differently:

What kind of turnaround time am I looking at?
Anything to assist raising E2?
What adjustment to dosage do you suggest?

Lesson learned: stick to 2:1 ratio and then adjust post bloodwork. Currently in the middle of week 10. Took bloods middle of week 8. Weeks 4-9 where I wasn’t 2:1 listed below. No longer on Tren.

Week 4-6
Test Cyp 400
Tren Ace 160
EQ 240
NPP 210

Week 7-8
Test Cyp 500
EQ 360
Tren 200
NPP 300

Week 9
Tren 250
Test 625
EQ 450

Shoot from the hip guess:
Test 600
NPP 400
EQ 300

it really depends in this situation this is low e2 for sure @Tankie but i remember we were not clear if you are dosing it right
can you post pics of the eq and test vials please as well

It was more a general statement bro, I've had friends that are on eq come back and say their e2 was 200, and they were on 600 test and 400 eq.

I then told them to go get an LCMS and it came back as View attachment 200106


For me personally it was about a 3:1 ratio but I was a lot fatter at the time no idea what it's going to be like next time I run eq

 

[Tankie]

it really depends in this situation this is low e2 for sure @Tankie but i remember we were not clear if you are dosing it right
can you post pics of the eq and test vials please as well

I’ll have to in the morning.
Test Cyp dragon pharma 250mg/ml
Boldo para pharma 300mg/ml
Both from UGFREAK

 

[Tankie]

i remember we were not clear if you are dosing it right

I’m definitely not dosing it right lol. Little more test little less EQ and then maybe I would be.

 

[LevButlerov]

I’m definitely not dosing it right lol. Little more test little less EQ and then maybe I would be.

i mean can you pull it into the syringe and show us the dose maybe you drawing wrong you wouldn't be the 1st person to do so @Tankie

 

[LevButlerov]

I’ll have to in the morning.
Test Cyp dragon pharma 250mg/ml
Boldo para pharma 300mg/ml
Both from UGFREAK

UGFreak has good gear but para pharma strong! @ugfreak @Tankie
you post pics of it?

 

[Mobster]

I get it now lol! Im probably around 15% body fat. I definitely should have started off 2:1 but it is what it is.
3:1 damn I’m trying to not stay under 300 EQ but definitely don’t want 900 test

Typically the higher the fat the higher the E2

 

[stevesmi]

Figured there’s a lot of good people out here that may not be following my log who could offer their advice. Both good and bad it’s all good!

E2 is smashed down to 5 pg/ml. I would have never known had it not been for the bloodwork. Couple of questions and yes everyone reacts differently:

What kind of turnaround time am I looking at?
Anything to assist raising E2?
What adjustment to dosage do you suggest?

Lesson learned: stick to 2:1 ratio and then adjust post bloodwork. Currently in the middle of week 10. Took bloods middle of week 8. Weeks 4-9 where I wasn’t 2:1 listed below. No longer on Tren.

Week 4-6
Test Cyp 400
Tren Ace 160
EQ 240
NPP 210

Week 7-8
Test Cyp 500
EQ 360
Tren 200
NPP 300

Week 9
Tren 250
Test 625
EQ 450

Shoot from the hip guess:
Test 600
NPP 400
EQ 300

@Tankie Looking really good on this boss. I like the test and Tren together and I like how you throw in the NPP. If done correctly it can be a really good stack.

 

[ceo]

Figured there’s a lot of good people out here that may not be following my log who could offer their advice. Both good and bad it’s all good!

E2 is smashed down to 5 pg/ml. I would have never known had it not been for the bloodwork. Couple of questions and yes everyone reacts differently:

What kind of turnaround time am I looking at?
Anything to assist raising E2?
What adjustment to dosage do you suggest?

Lesson learned: stick to 2:1 ratio and then adjust post bloodwork. Currently in the middle of week 10. Took bloods middle of week 8. Weeks 4-9 where I wasn’t 2:1 listed below. No longer on Tren.

Week 4-6
Test Cyp 400
Tren Ace 160
EQ 240
NPP 210

Week 7-8
Test Cyp 500
EQ 360
Tren 200
NPP 300

Week 9
Tren 250
Test 625
EQ 450

Shoot from the hip guess:
Test 600
NPP 400
EQ 300

Bros, I think everybody gonna be a little different. Estrogen, one of those things, some dudes, they can run tons of testosterone and no AI and have no problems, and other dudes can't even run TRT without estrogen problems.

 

[Tankie]

Bros, I think everybody gonna be a little different. Estrogen, one of those things, some dudes, they can run tons of testosterone and no AI and have no problems, and other dudes can't even run TRT without estrogen problems.

I agree. I’m gonna start a thread to help share my experience. With the support of the EVO family it didn’t take me long to find a corrective action.
It would have been nice if I was better prepared but all is good.
Maybe I can help the next guy cause we all know I ain’t gonna be the last one with a smashed e2 because of EQ lol.

 

[Tankie]

@Tankie Looking really good on this boss. I like the test and Tren together and I like how you throw in the NPP. If done correctly it can be a really good stack.

Thank you sir! It’s been a blast literally. Something’s I need to sharpen up on as far as health but I’m learning with the help of the EVO community!

 

[ROIDDERS]

Figured there’s a lot of good people out here that may not be following my log who could offer their advice. Both good and bad it’s all good!

E2 is smashed down to 5 pg/ml. I would have never known had it not been for the bloodwork. Couple of questions and yes everyone reacts differently:

What kind of turnaround time am I looking at?
Anything to assist raising E2?
What adjustment to dosage do you suggest?

Lesson learned: stick to 2:1 ratio and then adjust post bloodwork. Currently in the middle of week 10. Took bloods middle of week 8. Weeks 4-9 where I wasn’t 2:1 listed below. No longer on Tren.

Week 4-6
Test Cyp 400
Tren Ace 160
EQ 240
NPP 210

Week 7-8
Test Cyp 500
EQ 360
Tren 200
NPP 300

Week 9
Tren 250
Test 625
EQ 450

Shoot from the hip guess:
Test 600
NPP 400
EQ 300

You can raise estrogen by simply not using anything that drops your estrogen down and sticking with testosterone or maybe take some dianabol.

 

[Tankie]

You can raise estrogen by simply not using anything that drops your estrogen down and sticking with testosterone or maybe take some dianabol.

I like the EQ but didn’t approach it the correct way. I know now and will be better setup in the future. Lesson learned!
I grabbed someone Test P yesterday and thought the same thing about dbol so I grabbed it too. For all the reasons I wasn’t gonna use dbol in my upcoming bulk I could use it now lol.

 

[Ulter]

Figured there’s a lot of good people out here that may not be following my log who could offer their advice. Both good and bad it’s all good!

E2 is smashed down to 5 pg/ml. I would have never known had it not been for the bloodwork. Couple of questions and yes everyone reacts differently:

What kind of turnaround time am I looking at?
Anything to assist raising E2?
What adjustment to dosage do you suggest?

Lesson learned: stick to 2:1 ratio and then adjust post bloodwork. Currently in the middle of week 10. Took bloods middle of week 8. Weeks 4-9 where I wasn’t 2:1 listed below. No longer on Tren.

Week 4-6
Test Cyp 400
Tren Ace 160
EQ 240
NPP 210

Week 7-8
Test Cyp 500
EQ 360
Tren 200
NPP 300

Week 9
Tren 250
Test 625
EQ 450

Shoot from the hip guess:
Test 600
NPP 400
EQ 300

Low estrogen is definitely a problem for a lot of guys, but some guys have an issue with high estrogen, so everybody's going to be a little different. At the end of the day, definitely get the blood work done and see where you're at and we'll help you adjust things as you go.

 

[2Thick]

Figured there’s a lot of good people out here that may not be following my log who could offer their advice. Both good and bad it’s all good!

E2 is smashed down to 5 pg/ml. I would have never known had it not been for the bloodwork. Couple of questions and yes everyone reacts differently:

What kind of turnaround time am I looking at?
Anything to assist raising E2?
What adjustment to dosage do you suggest?

Lesson learned: stick to 2:1 ratio and then adjust post bloodwork. Currently in the middle of week 10. Took bloods middle of week 8. Weeks 4-9 where I wasn’t 2:1 listed below. No longer on Tren.

Week 4-6
Test Cyp 400
Tren Ace 160
EQ 240
NPP 210

Week 7-8
Test Cyp 500
EQ 360
Tren 200
NPP 300

Week 9
Tren 250
Test 625
EQ 450

Shoot from the hip guess:
Test 600
NPP 400
EQ 300

Lesson learned for sure, and that's how we learn in life. If your E2 is getting smashed, you got to switch some things up to get things where he should be.

 

[Tankie]

Low estrogen is definitely a problem for a lot of guys, but some guys have an issue with high estrogen, so everybody's going to be a little different. At the end of the day, definitely get the blood work done and see where you're at and we'll help you adjust things as you go.

To do it all over again based on the way it hit me, I would get at least E2 checked every 4 weeks.
I dont know the long term results but if I had to choose, give me low E2. In this situation I look and felt fine. High E2 I look like a water buffalo, pudgy cheeks and flabby boobs. I’m too manly for that shit, hear me!

 

[stevesmi]

Thank you sir! It’s been a blast literally. Something’s I need to sharpen up on as far as health but I’m learning with the help of the EVO community!

it never ends

 

[Ulter]

To do it all over again based on the way it hit me, I would get at least E2 checked every 4 weeks.
I dont know the long term results but if I had to choose, give me low E2. In this situation I look and felt fine. High E2 I look like a water buffalo, pudgy cheeks and flabby boobs. I’m too manly for that shit, hear me!

You live and learn for sure and everybody's gonna be different.

 

[ceo]

I agree. I’m gonna start a thread to help share my experience. With the support of the EVO family it didn’t take me long to find a corrective action.
It would have been nice if I was better prepared but all is good.
Maybe I can help the next guy cause we all know I ain’t gonna be the last one with a smashed e2 because of EQ lol.

Bros, that's good that you have some humility.

 

[ROIDDERS]

I like the EQ but didn’t approach it the correct way. I know now and will be better setup in the future. Lesson learned!
I grabbed someone Test P yesterday and thought the same thing about dbol so I grabbed it too. For all the reasons I wasn’t gonna use dbol in my upcoming bulk I could use it now lol.

EQ is one of those that's so versatile, I don't think there's any wrong way to use it.

 

[ballin2504]

Looks like the vets got ya covered