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good for you man.
when i read you need to take something to approach women i almost spilled my greens powder all over the place. of course it is normal to be anxious approaching women, it takes practice, not a pill to do it! you also need self confidence and need to accept that you will be rejected plenty of times. did michael jordan be afraid to shoot the ball in case he missed? his FG% wasn't 100% last i checked
I use it for anxiety and when I get any pain in my back. It’s not necessarily an “opiate” it mimics an opiate but just because the government has labeled it that way doesn’t make it bad.
Check out a leaf of faith documentary on the subject it’s really eye opening. This is a drug with all the benefits of an opiate and none of the downfalls.
If you are going to use something for anxiety or pain use Kratom, not nsaids, ibuprofen, etc. oh yeah also no liver damage from taking kratom.
Find your dose and use it when you need it, don’t use it just because though, use it if you have some anxiety or pain.
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Spoken like a true addict.
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FYI - Kratom is not an opiod. Kratom acts on some opiod receptors, but it's not at all an opiod. I may not be as well versed on Steroids as you guys, but Kratom....Not much I don't know honestly. Been using it for 8 years. It got me off of opiods.
But yes, very strange to talk about Kratom here, PM me if you want to discuss more.
But yes, very strange to talk about Kratom here, PM me if you want to discuss more.
there are no rules with discussing this stuff man. you are welcome to post
this forum is here to help spread knowledge, no reason to take it to PM's
many on here you are right, dont' know about this stuff. heck many meatheads don't even know about steroids, they just know to shove them up their ass
Only reason I used “opiate” I am a long time advocate of kratom. It also helped my dad with his chronic back pain after a botched surgery so we was finally able to get his PT in and recover properly!
Always nice to meet fellow kratom community members that know what it’s about
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Like Sarms act anabolically but aren't anabolics Kratom isn't an Opoid but acts on the same receptors.
And trust me. NO ONE NEEDS IT.
Plus anxiety, as Steve suggests, is over done. You're MEANT TO BE ANXIOUS in some situations FFS. Taking a drug which gets you high to talk to girls? Give me a break.
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I just ask you to have a bit of an open mind here. Kratom is like Yoga. Widely misunderstood until you've done it, not main-stream, people look down upon it, there are a million different kinds, etc... I say that because between Kratom and Yoga, it helped me get to where I am today. Now I m a Vinyasa teacher and I get defensive when meatheads (using Steve's words) talk shit about yoga when they never even did it. I have seen guys bigger than me, drop in a yoga class cause it was too hard. Kratom is similar for me, I get defensive until someone actually understands it. When the US DEA tried banning it in October of last year, the backlash was insane. They are actually doing some testing on kratom now and the results have been really good. Some say it's addicting some say it's not. It's not for me. I can not do it for 3 days and I don't go through withdrawals or anything. Try not taking a Vicodin for 3 days when you are used to taking 8 to 10 pills a day for years. You can't do it without severe side effects. Kratom has few to no side effects. Depending on the strain it helps with pain relief, boosts metabolism, increases sexual appetite (don't need viagara or other shit that roid users need), improves the immune system, lowers blood pressure, helps with anxiety and stress, helps you sleep, prevents diabetes, can help you shit, and it also helps you with diarrhea. Ok...I have to go, but will chat more later if anyone cares. lol. 
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crap - I had a bunch of stuff I wrote before my first sentence in that paragraph and for some reason didn't post. Sorry if it doesn't make total sense.
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crap - I had a bunch of stuff I wrote before my first sentence in that paragraph and for some reason didn't post. Sorry if it doesn't make total sense.
I just ask you to have a bit of an open mind here. Kratom is like Yoga. Widely misunderstood until you've done it, not main-stream, people look down upon it, there are a million different kinds, etc... I say that because between Kratom and Yoga, it helped me get to where I am today. Now I m a Vinyasa teacher and I get defensive when meatheads (using Steve's words) talk shit about yoga when they never even did it. I have seen guys bigger than me, drop in a yoga class cause it was too hard. Kratom is similar for me, I get defensive until someone actually understands it. When the US DEA tried banning it in October of last year, the backlash was insane. They are actually doing some testing on kratom now and the results have been really good. Some say it's addicting some say it's not. It's not for me. I can not do it for 3 days and I don't go through withdrawals or anything. Try not taking a Vicodin for 3 days when you are used to taking 8 to 10 pills a day for years. You can't do it without severe side effects. Kratom has few to no side effects. Depending on the strain it helps with pain relief, boosts metabolism, increases sexual appetite (don't need viagara or other shit that roid users need), improves the immune system, lowers blood pressure, helps with anxiety and stress, helps you sleep, prevents diabetes, can help you shit, and it also helps you with diarrhea. Ok...I have to go, but will chat more later if anyone cares. lol.
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crap - I had a bunch of stuff I wrote before my first sentence in that paragraph and for some reason didn't post. Sorry if it doesn't make total sense.
Amen!
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I need to post the first part of that if I can remember it all.
I am a disabled Marine Corps Veteran. The VA (Veteran's Administration for all the non-US based people) got me addicted to painkillers. I was on high doses of Vicodin and Percocet for years. I found Kratom and was able to get off it and stay relatively pain free. Kratom may have literally saved my life.
I am a disabled Marine Corps Veteran. The VA (Veteran's Administration for all the non-US based people) got me addicted to painkillers. I was on high doses of Vicodin and Percocet for years. I found Kratom and was able to get off it and stay relatively pain free. Kratom may have literally saved my life.
Thanks Steve. I appreciate that. Spock87 - ask away then, happy to talk publicly.
And Steve - maybe I'm taking my gear the wrong way? So I shove it up my ass? Interesting.LOL I'll try taking my prop rectally next time.....lmao
So long as there's no photos... oof!
Preach on it!
Anyone that instantly posts hate on kratom is really showing a bit of ignorance. It doesn’t take much research to see the benefits
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Most people go out to the nightclub and take alcohol to relax. Everyone knows alcohol is trash. It trashes your testosterone levels too.
its nothing i have ever used, no
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Muskate - no it's not illegal in the US. It's illegal in 2 states and the feds tried in October and the backlash was insane. Anyone that says it's addictive clearly has listened to the propaganda and never tried it themselves. It's not addictive in the least.
Let me ask you this: would you rather someone shoot up heroin or take deadly doses of narcotics or take a spoonful of natural leaves? Frankly, steroids are more dangerous than kratom. Kratom doesn't fuck up your liver in any dose. You don't need to detox from kratom. you don't need to get your bloodwork done on kratom. there are few to any negative drawbacks other than the media BS. As Tcurnette said, anyone that hates on kratom really doesn't know kratom. People also said weed was addictive and dangerous. Clearly we all know that's not true. Like I said, kratom may have saved my life.
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haha! Mobster.... in some sick way, I would love to see some moron take steroids rectally. lmao. j/k. Last thing I want to see.
Let me ask you this: would you rather someone shoot up heroin or take deadly doses of narcotics or take a spoonful of natural leaves? Frankly, steroids are more dangerous than kratom. Kratom doesn't fuck up your liver in any dose. You don't need to detox from kratom. you don't need to get your bloodwork done on kratom. there are few to any negative drawbacks other than the media BS. As Tcurnette said, anyone that hates on kratom really doesn't know kratom. People also said weed was addictive and dangerous. Clearly we all know that's not true. Like I said, kratom may have saved my life.
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haha! Mobster.... in some sick way, I would love to see some moron take steroids rectally. lmao. j/k. Last thing I want to see.
It isn't something I would ever use because there is no benefit for me.
I had no idea that we were so close that I'm ok with being called a Nazi... hang on... we're not. So wind that in. Plus we're not in the Oz forum. Remember you have to play nice OUTSIDE. Think of me as an older stern uncle. Strangely enough with an idea of looking after you. Don't do drugs kids. I'm of that age when people I know are dead (heck family members) from drug use. And show me an addict who doesn't come up with great sounding reasons for drug use.
I also addressed the same comment about it acting on the Opioid receptors earlier.
Here's hows pedantry works in this example. A chemist says Kratom isn't an opiate. A biochemist points out that, as we agree, that it works on the same receptors. So, pedantry set aside, it works like something that gets you high without being H, or Coke. Whoopy do. Sugar does this and it's not exactly good for you either (eat clean... me??)
Now unless you've a great excuse to use it like 'I was in Kuwait and a bomb went off and killed 4 buddies' etc etc and you are (an rightly so) stressed like a mofo then I can't see what the benefits are other than getting high. It can't be 'I get anxious'.
Now we're on a forum where some drink AND do PED's and yes some PED's, if abused, can also have long term affects. If you're silly enough to blast and cruise year round and your blast are kinda high AND you also use recreational drugs like Kratom with zero medical need... c'mon.
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Well said Mobster. In that guy's defense you did come across a little harsh about it I like the fact you are blunt and honest. I think that's a good thing here. And your point is well taken and very logical now. I do agree with you if some moron is going to take kratom just to take kratom then yeah....it's kind of like the fat guy taking Testosterone. Doesn't do him much good, just a fat guy on testosterone. But in my case, your scenario isn't too far off except mine isn't anxiety it's pain.
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Dude - you jump on and asked a question and all of us were discussing and poof you disappeared.
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Dude - you jump on and asked a question and all of us were discussing and poof you disappeared.
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Weed, tobacco are natural leaves, as well as heroin and coke come from natural sources..
Not saying I'm against any of them, each to their own.
I'm not using anything other than roids and occasional alcoholic beverage but I do think many of the drugs need to be legalized and regulated rather than banned.
the reason this won't happen in the US anytime soon is simple.
1. prisons make a shit ton of $$$ keeping people in prison
2. politicians are happier having certain people in prison (nixon had a chance to legalize pot but didn't want blacks and hippies to be able to vote against him)
3. there is zero profit in rehabilitation vs just tossing them in jail and charging taxpayers while charging the prisoners for extra food or cable tv
it's the same reason western medicine treats ailments, they don't cure them. hell no do they want to cure cancer or diabetes.
