Approved Log First Cycle Log from Italy - Testosterone Primobolan

[LevButlerov]

Yes i increased to 20mg yesterday and will do again 20mg on Thursday and assess from there Lev, i will do again bloodwork on Monday ( i receive the results same day so i will be able to assess directly on Monday).

I take it with a fat meal (25 - 30 gr of fat are enough as far as i've read).

My doubt is: if i will be in range, will i need to continue 20mg e3.5 days or i should decrease to 10 eod maybe?

you're doing 20mgs ed? or 20mgs/week? please clarify with the aromasin @Pepty

 

[Pepty]

you're doing 20mgs ed? or 20mgs/week? please clarify with the aromasin @Pepty

I'm doing 20 mgs of Aromasin on Monday and 20mgs on Thursday (when i pin).

I started this dosage this week, before i was doing 10 and 10 (except first 2 dosage 20mgs)

 

[LevButlerov]

I'm doing 20 mgs of Aromasin on Monday and 20mgs on Thursday (when i pin).

I started this dosage this week, before i was doing 10 and 10 (except first 2 dosage 20mgs)

20mgs mon/20mgs thur is a lot but it should help lets try it @Pepty

 

[Pepty]

Yes i'm trying to lower it as soon as possible, today i will take another 20mg then do bloodwork on Monday and move from there, maybe start 10 mgs EOD or E3.5D to keep it in range.. ^^'

 

[Pepty]

Update on my workout plan / weights!

Currently still aroun 3000kcal diet, i will try to push a little bit further next week (adding 70 - 100 gr of carbs).

I'm pushing lot in gym, i'm seeing changes and also people around me.


Weight are going up, this is this week recap (i will update tomorrow as soon as i will finish my 4 workout of this week, Shoulders).

Today DAY 3 (LEG DAY).

DAY 1 – Chest & Triceps
Bench Press – 4×6–8 – 80kg
Incline DB Press – 3×8–10 – 25 kg
DB Chest Fly – 3×12–15 – 12.5 kg
Dips – 2×8–12 – Bodyweight
Tricep Pushdown – 3×10–15 – 17.5kg
Cable overhead Tricep Extension – 2×10–12 – 7.5kg

DAY 2 – Back & Biceps
Pull-Ups – 4×6–8 – BW / 8 8 7 6
Barbell Row – 3×8–10 – 55 kg
Lat Pulldown (wide grip) – 3×10–12 – 50kg
Seated Cable Row – 3×10–12 – 50 kg
Face Pulls – 3×15–20 – 20 kg
Cable Curl – 3×8–10 – 17.5 kg
Hammer Curl – 3×10–12 – 10 kg

DAY 3 – Legs & Abs
Back Squat – 4×6–8 – 80kg
Leg Press – 4×10–12 – 100kg (sadly i don't have the 45° press)
Romanian Deadlift – 3×8–10 – 90kg
Leg Curl – 3×12–15 – 50kg
Standing Calf Raises – 5×12–20 – BW / 20 kg
Hanging Leg Raises – 3×15 (knee actually)
Cable Crunch – 3×15–20 – 12.5 kg
Plank – 3×max

Took 20mg of Aromasin today and will do bloodworks on Monday to check my E2 and move from there.

I will post an update of my physique as soon as possible!

 

[LevButlerov]

Yes i'm trying to lower it as soon as possible, today i will take another 20mg then do bloodwork on Monday and move from there, maybe start 10 mgs EOD or E3.5D to keep it in range.. ^^'

how many weeks you on the higher aromasin? @Pepty

 

[LevButlerov]

Update on my workout plan / weights!

Currently still aroun 3000kcal diet, i will try to push a little bit further next week (adding 70 - 100 gr of carbs).

I'm pushing lot in gym, i'm seeing changes and also people around me.


Weight are going up, this is this week recap (i will update tomorrow as soon as i will finish my 4 workout of this week, Shoulders).

Today DAY 3 (LEG DAY).

DAY 1 – Chest & Triceps
Bench Press – 4×6–8 – 80kg
Incline DB Press – 3×8–10 – 25 kg
DB Chest Fly – 3×12–15 – 12.5 kg
Dips – 2×8–12 – Bodyweight
Tricep Pushdown – 3×10–15 – 17.5kg
Cable overhead Tricep Extension – 2×10–12 – 7.5kg

DAY 2 – Back & Biceps
Pull-Ups – 4×6–8 – BW / 8 8 7 6
Barbell Row – 3×8–10 – 55 kg
Lat Pulldown (wide grip) – 3×10–12 – 50kg
Seated Cable Row – 3×10–12 – 50 kg
Face Pulls – 3×15–20 – 20 kg
Cable Curl – 3×8–10 – 17.5 kg
Hammer Curl – 3×10–12 – 10 kg

DAY 3 – Legs & Abs
Back Squat – 4×6–8 – 80kg
Leg Press – 4×10–12 – 100kg (sadly i don't have the 45° press)
Romanian Deadlift – 3×8–10 – 90kg
Leg Curl – 3×12–15 – 50kg
Standing Calf Raises – 5×12–20 – BW / 20 kg
Hanging Leg Raises – 3×15 (knee actually)
Cable Crunch – 3×15–20 – 12.5 kg
Plank – 3×max

Took 20mg of Aromasin today and will do bloodworks on Monday to check my E2 and move from there.

I will post an update of my physique as soon as possible!

3k calories is good but you doing what macros now? @Pepty

on the training looks good but on legs you doing any drop sets?

 

[Mobster]

I'm pushing lot in gym, i'm seeing changes and also people around me.

Always a good sign

 

[stevesmi]

Update on my workout plan / weights!

Currently still aroun 3000kcal diet, i will try to push a little bit further next week (adding 70 - 100 gr of carbs).

I'm pushing lot in gym, i'm seeing changes and also people around me.


Weight are going up, this is this week recap (i will update tomorrow as soon as i will finish my 4 workout of this week, Shoulders).

Today DAY 3 (LEG DAY).

DAY 1 – Chest & Triceps
Bench Press – 4×6–8 – 80kg
Incline DB Press – 3×8–10 – 25 kg
DB Chest Fly – 3×12–15 – 12.5 kg
Dips – 2×8–12 – Bodyweight
Tricep Pushdown – 3×10–15 – 17.5kg
Cable overhead Tricep Extension – 2×10–12 – 7.5kg

DAY 2 – Back & Biceps
Pull-Ups – 4×6–8 – BW / 8 8 7 6
Barbell Row – 3×8–10 – 55 kg
Lat Pulldown (wide grip) – 3×10–12 – 50kg
Seated Cable Row – 3×10–12 – 50 kg
Face Pulls – 3×15–20 – 20 kg
Cable Curl – 3×8–10 – 17.5 kg
Hammer Curl – 3×10–12 – 10 kg

DAY 3 – Legs & Abs
Back Squat – 4×6–8 – 80kg
Leg Press – 4×10–12 – 100kg (sadly i don't have the 45° press)
Romanian Deadlift – 3×8–10 – 90kg
Leg Curl – 3×12–15 – 50kg
Standing Calf Raises – 5×12–20 – BW / 20 kg
Hanging Leg Raises – 3×15 (knee actually)
Cable Crunch – 3×15–20 – 12.5 kg
Plank – 3×max

Took 20mg of Aromasin today and will do bloodworks on Monday to check my E2 and move from there.

I will post an update of my physique as soon as possible!

@Pepty never gonna be a nice three-day split like this, looking really solid. Maybe the only suggestion I could say is add in some abs on both your day one and day two to finish.

 

[ceo]

Update on my workout plan / weights!

Currently still aroun 3000kcal diet, i will try to push a little bit further next week (adding 70 - 100 gr of carbs).

I'm pushing lot in gym, i'm seeing changes and also people around me.


Weight are going up, this is this week recap (i will update tomorrow as soon as i will finish my 4 workout of this week, Shoulders).

Today DAY 3 (LEG DAY).

DAY 1 – Chest & Triceps
Bench Press – 4×6–8 – 80kg
Incline DB Press – 3×8–10 – 25 kg
DB Chest Fly – 3×12–15 – 12.5 kg
Dips – 2×8–12 – Bodyweight
Tricep Pushdown – 3×10–15 – 17.5kg
Cable overhead Tricep Extension – 2×10–12 – 7.5kg

DAY 2 – Back & Biceps
Pull-Ups – 4×6–8 – BW / 8 8 7 6
Barbell Row – 3×8–10 – 55 kg
Lat Pulldown (wide grip) – 3×10–12 – 50kg
Seated Cable Row – 3×10–12 – 50 kg
Face Pulls – 3×15–20 – 20 kg
Cable Curl – 3×8–10 – 17.5 kg
Hammer Curl – 3×10–12 – 10 kg

DAY 3 – Legs & Abs
Back Squat – 4×6–8 – 80kg
Leg Press – 4×10–12 – 100kg (sadly i don't have the 45° press)
Romanian Deadlift – 3×8–10 – 90kg
Leg Curl – 3×12–15 – 50kg
Standing Calf Raises – 5×12–20 – BW / 20 kg
Hanging Leg Raises – 3×15 (knee actually)
Cable Crunch – 3×15–20 – 12.5 kg
Plank – 3×max

Took 20mg of Aromasin today and will do bloodworks on Monday to check my E2 and move from there.

I will post an update of my physique as soon as possible!

Bros, you're not gonna go wrong on this. The chest and triceps are looking fantastic and I like how you're starting off on the bench press, good old-fashioned training. @Pepty

 

[Pepty]

how many weeks you on the higher aromasin? @Pepty

This is the end of the first one!

3k calories is good but you doing what macros now? @Pepty

on the training looks good but on legs you doing any drop sets?

I do 200 pro, 380 400 carb rest fat !

No drops set, should i add them?

@Pepty never gonna be a nice three-day split like this, looking really solid. Maybe the only suggestion I could say is add in some abs on both your day one and day two to finish.

I will follow your suggestion, worth to add some other abs session!

This is today workout (shoulders):

Military Press – 4×5–6 – 50kg

DB Lateral Raises – 4×12–15 – 7 kg

Rear Delt Fly – 3×12–15 – 7kg

Face Pulls – 3×15–20 – 22.5 kg

Barbell Shrugs – 4×8–10 – 27.5 kg


Today’s condition pre-sauna after workout, starting to see some form

 

[stevesmi]

I will follow your suggestion, worth to add some other abs session!

This is today workout (shoulders):

Military Press – 4×5–6 – 50kg

DB Lateral Raises – 4×12–15 – 7 kg

Rear Delt Fly – 3×12–15 – 7kg

Face Pulls – 3×15–20 – 22.5 kg

Barbell Shrugs – 4×8–10 – 27.5 kg


Today’s condition pre-sauna after workout, starting to see some form

yeah the abs are one of the few muscle groups you can train daily. i do 25 situps every morning myself even on rest days

 

[Ulter]

Update on my workout plan / weights!

Currently still aroun 3000kcal diet, i will try to push a little bit further next week (adding 70 - 100 gr of carbs).

I'm pushing lot in gym, i'm seeing changes and also people around me.


Weight are going up, this is this week recap (i will update tomorrow as soon as i will finish my 4 workout of this week, Shoulders).

Today DAY 3 (LEG DAY).

DAY 1 – Chest & Triceps
Bench Press – 4×6–8 – 80kg
Incline DB Press – 3×8–10 – 25 kg
DB Chest Fly – 3×12–15 – 12.5 kg
Dips – 2×8–12 – Bodyweight
Tricep Pushdown – 3×10–15 – 17.5kg
Cable overhead Tricep Extension – 2×10–12 – 7.5kg

DAY 2 – Back & Biceps
Pull-Ups – 4×6–8 – BW / 8 8 7 6
Barbell Row – 3×8–10 – 55 kg
Lat Pulldown (wide grip) – 3×10–12 – 50kg
Seated Cable Row – 3×10–12 – 50 kg
Face Pulls – 3×15–20 – 20 kg
Cable Curl – 3×8–10 – 17.5 kg
Hammer Curl – 3×10–12 – 10 kg

DAY 3 – Legs & Abs
Back Squat – 4×6–8 – 80kg
Leg Press – 4×10–12 – 100kg (sadly i don't have the 45° press)
Romanian Deadlift – 3×8–10 – 90kg
Leg Curl – 3×12–15 – 50kg
Standing Calf Raises – 5×12–20 – BW / 20 kg
Hanging Leg Raises – 3×15 (knee actually)
Cable Crunch – 3×15–20 – 12.5 kg
Plank – 3×max

Took 20mg of Aromasin today and will do bloodworks on Monday to check my E2 and move from there.

I will post an update of my physique as soon as possible!

Amazing work on the chest and triceps. @Pepty and I love the legs and abs as well. These are some good training sessions.

 

[ROIDDERS]

Update on my workout plan / weights!

Currently still aroun 3000kcal diet, i will try to push a little bit further next week (adding 70 - 100 gr of carbs).

I'm pushing lot in gym, i'm seeing changes and also people around me.


Weight are going up, this is this week recap (i will update tomorrow as soon as i will finish my 4 workout of this week, Shoulders).

Today DAY 3 (LEG DAY).

DAY 1 – Chest & Triceps
Bench Press – 4×6–8 – 80kg
Incline DB Press – 3×8–10 – 25 kg
DB Chest Fly – 3×12–15 – 12.5 kg
Dips – 2×8–12 – Bodyweight
Tricep Pushdown – 3×10–15 – 17.5kg
Cable overhead Tricep Extension – 2×10–12 – 7.5kg

DAY 2 – Back & Biceps
Pull-Ups – 4×6–8 – BW / 8 8 7 6
Barbell Row – 3×8–10 – 55 kg
Lat Pulldown (wide grip) – 3×10–12 – 50kg
Seated Cable Row – 3×10–12 – 50 kg
Face Pulls – 3×15–20 – 20 kg
Cable Curl – 3×8–10 – 17.5 kg
Hammer Curl – 3×10–12 – 10 kg

DAY 3 – Legs & Abs
Back Squat – 4×6–8 – 80kg
Leg Press – 4×10–12 – 100kg (sadly i don't have the 45° press)
Romanian Deadlift – 3×8–10 – 90kg
Leg Curl – 3×12–15 – 50kg
Standing Calf Raises – 5×12–20 – BW / 20 kg
Hanging Leg Raises – 3×15 (knee actually)
Cable Crunch – 3×15–20 – 12.5 kg
Plank – 3×max

Took 20mg of Aromasin today and will do bloodworks on Monday to check my E2 and move from there.

I will post an update of my physique as soon as possible!

@Pepty another excellent job on this. The chest and triceps look terrific and so do the back and biceps. You're never going to go wrong.

 

[2Thick]

This is the end of the first one!

I do 200 pro, 380 400 carb rest fat !

No drops set, should i add them?

I will follow your suggestion, worth to add some other abs session!

This is today workout (shoulders):

Military Press – 4×5–6 – 50kg

DB Lateral Raises – 4×12–15 – 7 kg

Rear Delt Fly – 3×12–15 – 7kg

Face Pulls – 3×15–20 – 22.5 kg

Barbell Shrugs – 4×8–10 – 27.5 kg


Today’s condition pre-sauna after workout, starting to see some form

Nice job on this. I like the different changes to your carbs and I like the simple exercise. Just be careful on shoulders; you don't want to over train them and tear anything. @Pepty

 

[LevButlerov]

This is the end of the first one!

I do 200 pro, 380 400 carb rest fat !

No drops set, should i add them?

I will follow your suggestion, worth to add some other abs session!

This is today workout (shoulders):

Military Press – 4×5–6 – 50kg

DB Lateral Raises – 4×12–15 – 7 kg

Rear Delt Fly – 3×12–15 – 7kg

Face Pulls – 3×15–20 – 22.5 kg

Barbell Shrugs – 4×8–10 – 27.5 kg


Today’s condition pre-sauna after workout, starting to see some form

You're looking amazing lean and tight I love that @Pepty

add drop sets every set to like 30reps low weight in end

on the carbs lets get carbs to 500+ and protein 250

 

[ballin2504]

Update on my workout plan / weights!

Currently still aroun 3000kcal diet, i will try to push a little bit further next week (adding 70 - 100 gr of carbs).

I'm pushing lot in gym, i'm seeing changes and also people around me.


Weight are going up, this is this week recap (i will update tomorrow as soon as i will finish my 4 workout of this week, Shoulders).

Today DAY 3 (LEG DAY).

DAY 1 – Chest & Triceps
Bench Press – 4×6–8 – 80kg
Incline DB Press – 3×8–10 – 25 kg
DB Chest Fly – 3×12–15 – 12.5 kg
Dips – 2×8–12 – Bodyweight
Tricep Pushdown – 3×10–15 – 17.5kg
Cable overhead Tricep Extension – 2×10–12 – 7.5kg

DAY 2 – Back & Biceps
Pull-Ups – 4×6–8 – BW / 8 8 7 6
Barbell Row – 3×8–10 – 55 kg
Lat Pulldown (wide grip) – 3×10–12 – 50kg
Seated Cable Row – 3×10–12 – 50 kg
Face Pulls – 3×15–20 – 20 kg
Cable Curl – 3×8–10 – 17.5 kg
Hammer Curl – 3×10–12 – 10 kg

DAY 3 – Legs & Abs
Back Squat – 4×6–8 – 80kg
Leg Press – 4×10–12 – 100kg (sadly i don't have the 45° press)
Romanian Deadlift – 3×8–10 – 90kg
Leg Curl – 3×12–15 – 50kg
Standing Calf Raises – 5×12–20 – BW / 20 kg
Hanging Leg Raises – 3×15 (knee actually)
Cable Crunch – 3×15–20 – 12.5 kg
Plank – 3×max

Took 20mg of Aromasin today and will do bloodworks on Monday to check my E2 and move from there.

I will post an update of my physique as soon as possible!

@Pepty man looks lien you got some really good training days in. Keep killing this

 

[Pepty]

I’m thinking to stop Reta and/or Cialis, my HR is still high during the night and I’m struggling to recover.
I try to sleep always more than 9 hours (i usually sleep at 10.30 pm to 7.30 - 8 am) but I don’t always feel recovered and I think it’s due to high HR.

I’m also taking Ivabradine 5 mg but not helping so much, maybe I still need to loose water due to high E2?

Anyway tomorrow I will do blood work to check E2 and understand how to move forward.

I will share them with you as soon as I will receive the results.

 

[kamsikazee]

Update on my workout plan / weights!

Currently still aroun 3000kcal diet, i will try to push a little bit further next week (adding 70 - 100 gr of carbs).

I'm pushing lot in gym, i'm seeing changes and also people around me.


Weight are going up, this is this week recap (i will update tomorrow as soon as i will finish my 4 workout of this week, Shoulders).

Today DAY 3 (LEG DAY).

DAY 1 – Chest & Triceps
Bench Press – 4×6–8 – 80kg
Incline DB Press – 3×8–10 – 25 kg
DB Chest Fly – 3×12–15 – 12.5 kg
Dips – 2×8–12 – Bodyweight
Tricep Pushdown – 3×10–15 – 17.5kg
Cable overhead Tricep Extension – 2×10–12 – 7.5kg

DAY 2 – Back & Biceps
Pull-Ups – 4×6–8 – BW / 8 8 7 6
Barbell Row – 3×8–10 – 55 kg
Lat Pulldown (wide grip) – 3×10–12 – 50kg
Seated Cable Row – 3×10–12 – 50 kg
Face Pulls – 3×15–20 – 20 kg
Cable Curl – 3×8–10 – 17.5 kg
Hammer Curl – 3×10–12 – 10 kg

DAY 3 – Legs & Abs
Back Squat – 4×6–8 – 80kg
Leg Press – 4×10–12 – 100kg (sadly i don't have the 45° press)
Romanian Deadlift – 3×8–10 – 90kg
Leg Curl – 3×12–15 – 50kg
Standing Calf Raises – 5×12–20 – BW / 20 kg
Hanging Leg Raises – 3×15 (knee actually)
Cable Crunch – 3×15–20 – 12.5 kg
Plank – 3×max

Took 20mg of Aromasin today and will do bloodworks on Monday to check my E2 and move from there.

I will post an update of my physique as soon as possible!

That's a solid workout routine bro! Smash it

I’m thinking to stop Reta and/or Cialis, my HR is still high during the night and I’m struggling to recover.
I try to sleep always more than 9 hours (i usually sleep at 10.30 pm to 7.30 - 8 am) but I don’t always feel recovered and I think it’s due to high HR.

I’m also taking Ivabradine 5 mg but not helping so much, maybe I still need to loose water due to high E2?

Anyway tomorrow I will do blood work to check E2 and understand how to move forward.

I will share them with you as soon as I will receive the results.

Do you wake up much throughout the middle of the night and need to go to the bathroom?

 

[LevButlerov]

I’m thinking to stop Reta and/or Cialis, my HR is still high during the night and I’m struggling to recover.
I try to sleep always more than 9 hours (i usually sleep at 10.30 pm to 7.30 - 8 am) but I don’t always feel recovered and I think it’s due to high HR.

I’m also taking Ivabradine 5 mg but not helping so much, maybe I still need to loose water due to high E2?

Anyway tomorrow I will do blood work to check E2 and understand how to move forward.

I will share them with you as soon as I will receive the results.

Retatrutide and cialis works but the high e2 can cause the issue we need blood updates on it @Pepty

 

[Pepty]

That's a solid workout routine bro! Smash it

Do you wake up much throughout the middle of the night and need to go to the bathroom?

I do wake up a lot during the night, yes!

Retatrutide and cialis works but the high e2 can cause the issue we need blood updates on it @Pepty

Going now! Will update in some hours

 

[kamsikazee]

I do wake up a lot during the night, yes!

I would recommend you do a sleep study and get tested for sleep apnea brother! Your symptoms tick all the boxes!

 

[Pepty]

I would recommend you do a sleep study and get tested for sleep apnea brother! Your symptoms tick all the boxes!

But i mainly get up to go to bathroom because i'm drinking lot of water, i think
Lately i finish to drink at 6 pm and i wake up maximum 1 time..

I've lot of tools (Oura and HelioStrap Amazfit) and don't have any issue on sleep (they're pretty accurate), the only concern is the HR but i hope to fix it soon!

 

[Pepty]

Starting from today i'll start to pin 3 times a week (Monday morning, Wedsnay evening, Saturday morning) too.

 

[LevButlerov]

Going now! Will update in some hours

awesome

 

[LevButlerov]

Starting from today i'll start to pin 3 times a week (Monday morning, Wedsnay evening, Saturday morning) too.

sure

 

[kamsikazee]

But i mainly get up to go to bathroom because i'm drinking lot of water, i think
Lately i finish to drink at 6 pm and i wake up maximum 1 time..

I've lot of tools (Oura and HelioStrap Amazfit) and don't have any issue on sleep (they're pretty accurate), the only concern is the HR but i hope to fix it soon!

Yeah they maybe accurate but I am not sure how a watch or ring could be more accurate given the procedure for a sleep study, see below example. I was told I have moderate sleep apnea and I use to wake up once a night to go bathroom (referred to as Nocturia). I now use a CPAP machine and never get up to go to the bathroom, and I drink a lot of water, more than I was before being diagnosed and started training.



Not saying that your tools are not accurate, they may quite possible be, but if the problem persists, might be worth checking out.

 

[Pepty]

Yeah they maybe accurate but I am not sure how a watch or ring could be more accurate given the procedure for a sleep study, see below example. I was told I have moderate sleep apnea and I use to wake up once a night to go bathroom (referred to as Nocturia). I now use a CPAP machine and never get up to go to the bathroom, and I drink a lot of water, more than I was before being diagnosed and started training.

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Not saying that your tools are not accurate, they may quite possible be, but if the problem persists, might be worth checking out.

Yes you are right, that's another option that i should check!
Other than that..

I will stop Reta; i will replace it with MOTSC 0.5 ED first 2 weeks then 1 ED.

Today workout is Chest, i think i'm going to hit 100kg soon on benchpress Maybe i could now, i did 4x8 chest press:
8 80kg
8 80kg
5 90kg
6 80kg

Increased also my DB Chest fly from 12.5 to 15kg

I plan to add cardio 20 mins at the end of every workout and 30mins on rest days (as i'm doing now).

I'm still waiting for bloodwork results

P.S Just an info.. how can i change my profile picture?

 

[Pepty]

Something strange.
E2 it’s even higher than last weeks, and last week I took 20mg of Aromasin on Monday and 20 on Thursday.

16 and 20 feb: 10 and 10
23 Monday: E2 107
23 and 26: 20 and 20
02 march: 109 E2

Taking PSL AROMASIN.

Can you help me here?

 

[LevButlerov]

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Something strange.
E2 it’s even higher than last weeks, and last week I took 20mg of Aromasin on Monday and 20 on Thursday.

16 and 20 feb: 10 and 10
23 Monday: E2 107
23 and 26: 20 and 20
02 march: 109 E2

Taking PSL AROMASIN.

Can you help me here?

this is very strange your e2 shouldn't be higher @Pepty

aa few questions, PSL aromasin post pics of it again please and the tabs inside and how you take them

and repost what you injected and how long before the bloods thanks

 

[Pepty]

this is very strange your e2 shouldn't be higher @Pepty

aa few questions, PSL aromasin post pics of it again please and the tabs inside and how you take them

and repost what you injected and how long before the bloods thanks

yes it’s really strange…

I’m on 500 test, so I did 250mg on 23 February and 250 on 26 February, the bloodworks has been done on 02 march.

Thank you.

 

[LevButlerov]

yes it’s really strange…

I’m on 500 test, so I did 250mg on 23 February and 250 on 26 February, the bloodworks has been done on 02 march.

Thank you.

very strange that looks normal.
lets cut test to 150mgs and leave aromasin same and retest week 2 @Pepty

 

[Pepty]

S**t i already pinned 170mg yesterday; i'm doing 500 week now but splitted 3 per week.

@LevButlerov I don't have access to Arimidex right now, i could in next few days if needed; should i try that? Which doses?

I already took 20mg of Aromasin yesterday but maybe it's not working for me?

I'm seeing that 40mg per week is shit ton of AI and it's strange that E2 didn't drop but increased.

 

[LevButlerov]

S**t i already pinned 170mg yesterday; i'm doing 500 week now but splitted 3 per week.

@LevButlerov I don't have access to Arimidex right now, i could in next few days if needed; should i try that? Which doses?

I already took 20mg of Aromasin yesterday but maybe it's not working for me?

I'm seeing that 40mg per week is shit ton of AI and it's strange that E2 didn't drop but increased.

lets stay on aromasin and cut your test dose to see if that helps I think we can do without arimidex right now @Pepty

@~Vision~ @PSL @Phill check his aromasin issue please

 

[~Vision~]

S**t i already pinned 170mg yesterday; i'm doing 500 week now but splitted 3 per week.

@LevButlerov I don't have access to Arimidex right now, i could in next few days if needed; should i try that? Which doses?

I already took 20mg of Aromasin yesterday but maybe it's not working for me?

I'm seeing that 40mg per week is shit ton of AI and it's strange that E2 didn't drop but increased.

Be careful with taking the AIs, they don't work right away, they actually take weeks to work. Because people have to consider that there is still circulating estrogen, by the time the anti-estrogens start binding, the process can take a couple weeks.
You need to remain patient and give this time.
Do not take any more anti-estrogens, drop your aromasin to 10mg EOD..
This does not need to be taken every day, because the mechanisms of action with it are actually prolonged.
Don't worry about the half-life of the drug, because it has continuous properties long after the half life.

 

[LevButlerov]

Be careful with taking the AIs, they don't work right away, they actually take weeks to work. Because people have to consider that there is still circulating estrogen, by the time the anti-estrogens start binding, the process can take a couple weeks.
You need to remain patient and give this time.
Do not take any more anti-estrogens, drop your aromasin to 10mg EOD..
This does not need to be taken every day, because the mechanisms of action with it are actually prolonged.
Don't worry about the half-life of the drug, because it has continuous properties long after the half life.

Well said @~Vision~ but he has double back to back blood work up with more aromasin, have you seen it?

 

[Pepty]

lets stay on aromasin and cut your test dose to see if that helps I think we can do without arimidex right now @Pepty

@~Vision~ @PSL @Phill check his aromasin issue please

Be careful with taking the AIs, they don't work right away, they actually take weeks to work. Because people have to consider that there is still circulating estrogen, by the time the anti-estrogens start binding, the process can take a couple weeks.
You need to remain patient and give this time.
Do not take any more anti-estrogens, drop your aromasin to 10mg EOD..
This does not need to be taken every day, because the mechanisms of action with it are actually prolonged.
Don't worry about the half-life of the drug, because it has continuous properties long after the half life.

Thanks both for your invaluable help.

I also bought Arimidex (before reading your messages but maybe worth to have it), i'll receive it tomorrow.
I bought it from a guy here in my town, so i could have it straight away in case of need and also because there is a minimum buy order on every seller's website and i didn't need anything at the moment (a parte from Anastrozolo).

I've read that it's more common that i thought that some AI (especially Aromasin as far as i've read) doesn't have an high impact on some people.

But i'm not an expert, so...

Thanks for the support.

 

[LevButlerov]

Thanks both for your invaluable help.

I also bought Arimidex (before reading your messages but maybe worth to have it), i'll receive it tomorrow.
I bought it from a guy here in my town, so i could have it straight away in case of need and also because there is a minimum buy order on every seller's website and i didn't need anything at the moment (a parte from Anastrozolo).

I've read that it's more common that i thought that some AI (especially Aromasin as far as i've read) doesn't have an high impact on some people.

But i'm not an expert, so...

Thanks for the support.

I would do this, once you have arimidex lets see the pics post them @Pepty
on the testosterone can you cut dose to 300mgs as we go next week

 

[Pepty]

I would do this, once you have arimidex lets see the pics post them @Pepty
on the testosterone can you cut dose to 300mgs as we go next week

I should receive them today, I think the brand it’s ZPHC.

Yes I can cut, I’m “scared” to change two variables in the same time but I will follow you suggestion

This is today after shoulder day, veins are popping out

 

[LevButlerov]

I should receive them today, I think the brand it’s ZPHC.

Yes I can cut, I’m “scared” to change two variables in the same time but I will follow you suggestion

This is today after shoulder day, veins are popping out

you're looking good today ripped

lets cut test to 300mgs trust me and dont move aromasin up @Pepty

 

[Pepty]

you're looking good today ripped

lets cut test to 300mgs trust me and dont move aromasin up @Pepty

I absolutely will trust you

Today I’ve received Anastrozole.

I would start this, what you think?

Aromasin not working honestly, and sometimes my nipples are particularly sensible.

Thank you

 

[LevButlerov]

I absolutely will trust you

Today I’ve received Anastrozole.

I would start this, what you think?

Aromasin not working honestly, and sometimes my nipples are particularly sensible.

Thank you

Lets cut the aromasin completely and start .5mgs arimidex eod and retest in 2 weeks but keep test at 500mgs I noticed you didnt want to drop it @Pepty

 

[Pepty]

Lets cut the aromasin completely and start .5mgs arimidex eod and retest in 2 weeks but keep test at 500mgs I noticed you didnt want to drop it @Pepty

You’ve read my mind
But in any case I would have follow your suggestion blindly i’ve complete trust
Took 0.5 yesterday night, tomorrow and EOD I will take it.
I will update you!!

Thanks as always.

 

[LevButlerov]

You’ve read my mind
But in any case I would have follow your suggestion blindly i’ve complete trust
Took 0.5 yesterday night, tomorrow and EOD I will take it.
I will update you!!

Thanks as always.

lets keep it updated and get training food updates up too please @Pepty

 

[Pepty]

Good morning!

This is my lunch of today; i won't waste your time putting macros, but just a pic of it.

I usually alternate high quality pasta (remember that i'm italian, i can't survive without it ), rice or bread.

In the gym today i benched 100kgs for 2 times, on the third a friend helped me.. i'm super proud of it.

Didn't expect to do 2 reps!

 

[LevButlerov]

Good morning!

This is my lunch of today; i won't waste your time putting macros, but just a pic of it.

I usually alternate high quality pasta (remember that i'm italian, i can't survive without it ), rice or bread.

In the gym today i benched 100kgs for 2 times, on the third a friend helped me.. i'm super proud of it.

Didn't expect to do 2 reps!

you're not wasting time push in the meal pics we love those @Pepty
100kg on the bench is a win!

@HarleyGuy @Allupfromhere @Pigsy @Dreamer @Freki
@waggat @Trenhead3cc @Kopite67 @codezz @Yuri @MarkNV

 

[MarkNV]

Good morning!

This is my lunch of today; i won't waste your time putting macros, but just a pic of it.

I usually alternate high quality pasta (remember that i'm italian, i can't survive without it ), rice or bread.

In the gym today i benched 100kgs for 2 times, on the third a friend helped me.. i'm super proud of it.

Didn't expect to do 2 reps!

Love the food porn

 

[waggat]

Good morning!

This is my lunch of today; i won't waste your time putting macros, but just a pic of it.

I usually alternate high quality pasta (remember that i'm italian, i can't survive without it ), rice or bread.

In the gym today i benched 100kgs for 2 times, on the third a friend helped me.. i'm super proud of it.

Didn't expect to do 2 reps!

Nice work on the bench press mate. Your lunch looks good.

 

[Pepty]

Good morning guys!
Finally my E2 has back in range; i'm currently taking 0.5 Arimidex EOD:

Yesterday i did 3 rep of 100kg bench press, the 4th was assisted.

Currently weighting 82.8 (i almost got 10kgs, i obviously don't think to keep them all after PCT ^^').

Now i'm struggling with high HR, but let's see how it evolve.

I included more cardio (20 minutes minimum ED at Z2 / Z3).

I think i will remove Telmisartan and keep just Nebivolol; Telmisartan is giving me low pressure and maybe heart try to compensate that increasing HR.

 

[LevButlerov]

Good morning guys!
Finally my E2 has back in range; i'm currently taking 0.5 Arimidex EOD:

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Yesterday i did 3 rep of 100kg bench press, the 4th was assisted.

Currently weighting 82.8 (i almost got 10kgs, i obviously don't think to keep them all after PCT ^^').

Now i'm struggling with high HR, but let's see how it evolve.

I included more cardio (20 minutes minimum ED at Z2 / Z3).

I think i will remove Telmisartan and keep just Nebivolol; Telmisartan is giving me low pressure and maybe heart try to compensate that increasing HR.

perfect so we are back e2 is controlled again @Pepty and up 10kg is a win too!

you want to go into pct or stay on trt?

 

[Pepty]

perfect so we are back e2 is controlled again @Pepty and up 10kg is a win too!

you want to go into pct or stay on trt?

Thanks, yes i'm satisfied but still half cycle is missing!

Well, at the start of the cycle my idea about the PCT was really solid, now it's slowing fading away and I'm not sure what i want to do, i'm honest

 

[LevButlerov]

Thanks, yes i'm satisfied but still half cycle is missing!

Well, at the start of the cycle my idea about the PCT was really solid, now it's slowing fading away and I'm not sure what i want to do, i'm honest

which part is missing? @Pepty

 

[Pepty]

which part is missing? @Pepty

I’m at week 8 of 16, I meant this

 

[LevButlerov]

I’m at week 8 of 16, I meant this

we can keep going as e2 settles

 

[Pepty]

Hey guys,

long time i don't write.

My cycle is finally finished.

I went from 72kg to 82kg.

Everything went smoothly expect those E2 problems during the first phases, but now i understand better my body.

I had the idea to do a PCT but i'm 32 (33 next months) and i think the TRT will be the best option.

I will create a new log soon with all the actual details to log every detail of it.

 

[LevButlerov]

Hey guys,

long time i don't write.

My cycle is finally finished.

I went from 72kg to 82kg.

Everything went smoothly expect those E2 problems during the first phases, but now i understand better my body.

I had the idea to do a PCT but i'm 32 (33 next months) and i think the TRT will be the best option.

I will create a new log soon with all the actual details to log every detail of it.

welcome back to the EVO family! we missed you!
82 is a good weight the e2 issues you fix? @Pepty

lets start up a new log you know how?

 

[Pepty]

Absolutely yes!
Don't know if you remember, but i had an issue with Aromasin while Arimidex was working fine for me!

I fixed the issue pinning 5 days a week with 0.5 Anastrozole MWF!

I will open a log in the next days!

 

[LevButlerov]

Absolutely yes!
Don't know if you remember, but i had an issue with Aromasin while Arimidex was working fine for me!

I fixed the issue pinning 5 days a week with 0.5 Anastrozole MWF!

I will open a log in the next days!

let me ask you, where was your aromasin from? was it from PSL Euro pharmacies puritysourcelabs? @Pepty

 

[HarleyGuy]

Absolutely yes!
Don't know if you remember, but i had an issue with Aromasin while Arimidex was working fine for me!

I fixed the issue pinning 5 days a week with 0.5 Anastrozole MWF!

I will open a log in the next days!

Next few days sounds good and welcome back @Pepty!
We'll be here and waiting.

 

[Pepty]

let me ask you, where was your aromasin from? was it from PSL Euro pharmacies puritysourcelabs? @Pepty

Hey Lev, yes my Aromasin was from PSL (i sent the pictures here), i didn't work for me.

Next few days sounds good and welcome back @Pepty!
We'll be here and waiting.

Sure, i'll open it today! I received my blood works!

 

[LevButlerov]

Hey Lev, yes my Aromasin was from PSL (i sent the pictures here), i didn't work for me.

Since that time we suspended puritysourcelabs PSL because their euro pharma was found to be fake, they were selling test prop as primobolan, so guys buying primo from them getting fakes test prop! The aromasin euro pharma was likely fake @Pepty