First Cycle

[Animosity]

Hello, I'm 25 years old and I've been training for 6 years. I'm 5'10 and 184 lbs at 8-10%. I'm planning to do 500mg of test e for 12 weeks and my PCT would be 4 weeks after last injection with nolva at 40/40/20/20 and I was wondering if clomid is necessary and hcg is necessary or simple a nice addition but not required? Thanks.

 

[muskate]

Here is a good video for you to watch on how to properly run a first steroid cycle: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qqBLCSaKsW4

Your cycle itself looks good - however you are missing an AI like aromasin. This is very important to prevent estrogen related side effects like gyno and water retention. Start the AI on day 1 of your cycle and run it throughout your entire cycle.

Your PCT also needs major improvement. You aren't going to properly recover from your cycle from using just nolvadex as a PCT. Also, your PCT should start 2 weeks after your last injection, not 4 weeks after your last injection. Follow the perfect PCT article and you have nothing to worry about.

Here's what I recommend:

Weeks 1 - 12
testosterone e 500mg/week
aromasin 12.5mg every other day

After your cycle run the perfect PCT protocol: http://www.evolutionary.org/the-perfect-post-cycle-therapy-pct/

 

[Animosity]

I forgot to include Aromasin, I was already planning on taking it at 12.5mg EOD and I can add in Clomid if it's truly necessary but all those other products seem like overkill, I've never heard of more than half of them either...

 

[LevButlerov]

You should definitely include some clomid into the PCT protocol, since it works in synergy with nolvadex, so you would be getting the best benefits by using them together.

As for the other compounds in the PCT protocol, I would not say that they are an overkill. After all, the better the PCT, the more gains you will be able to keep, and the smoother will be the recovery. In any case, I would not use HCG, neither on cycle, nor off cycle. There are much better alternatives with less downsides.

 

[stevesmi]

running just nolvadex in PCT for 4 weeks will do nothing for you. it takes the steroid esters 5-6 weeks to even clear in the first place

you need to run a full pct if you want to keep most of your gains.

 

[Jay Scott]

I would run both clomid and nolva for pct, and also hcg during the cycle.

But hcg has very mixed views here

 

[Masonic Bodybuilder]

HCG is definitely not recommended in PCT. If you want to run it do it the couple weeks leading up to starting SERMS. You can accomplish the same goals however with a strong natural test booster like N2Generate ES. I would highly recommend researching the Perfect PCT - http://www.evolutionary.org/the-perfect-post-cycle-therapy-pct/

You do not want to cut corners on PCT and risk losing your gains and not recovering natural test