Help with my first cycle

[Verytas]

Good morning guys,
I may catch some flak for this for being an "inexperienced idiot" but here we go. I'm looking for advice and information on running my first tren cycle. I've done 4 or 5 cycles of prohormones ( I know not the same thing ) and I'm looking for something more. As it stands right now I'm 260lbs and coming back from a debilitating back injury that's left me out for around 2 years. I'd like to get back to where I was pre injury (205-210lbs 8-10%bf). I'm 29 years old if that changes anything at all. I would need info and advice on the whole deal from getting prepared to cycle length and dosage, what to stack it with and pct. Money is a non issue as I'd rather put off my start date and save more cash and do it right. I'm looking at a late summer/ early fall start just to give time to get all my ducks in a row. Any and all information and advice is appreciated. Thank you and have a good day.

 

[stevesmi]

what you are doing here is reckless

you don't use tren to rehab and condition back from an injury like that. you are going to hurt yourself more and damage your body

you need to get back your conditioning first, get back in shape.. then you worry about steroids

the best thing you can do is SARM's they are safe to use for someone out of shape like this

 

[Bodyman46]

what you are doing here is reckless

you don't use tren to rehab and condition back from an injury like that. you are going to hurt yourself more and damage your body

you need to get back your conditioning first, get back in shape.. then you worry about steroids

the best thing you can do is SARM's they are safe to use for someone out of shape like this

Sound advice


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[jp4355]

I will chime in here, as I'm in the middle of a Total Hip Replacement Rehap. (2nd).

I've had everything needed to start a Cycle for awhile.

But I absolutely won't start until I address an Issue I'm having with some Muscle Imbalance.

And I've been having to move it back Twice so far, cause it's not coming along as quickly as my 1st replacement.

So I've been using the time to stay active with Light Weight/High Rep, and Mobility Exercises at home.

And even though I'm 13 Weeks Post-op, I'm still seeing a PT twice a week to aid in my recovery.................... JP
P.S.
So take the time to Lose the Weight, and start doing Mobility Exercises for your Lower Back and Posterior Chain.
This will give you a Good Base from which to move forward.

And Myfitnesspal can help with Tracking your Daily Macros.
It's a Free Diet Tracking App for Computers and Smartphones.
It tracks Carb/Fat/Protein/Sodium/Sugar/and Water Intake.

 

[Masonic Bodybuilder]

You need to first fix your diet and exercise before using steroids. Since you are just getting back into things I bet you will lose the extra fat pretty quickly if you are consistent.

Honestly a couple years of natural training would be best at this point.

Steve recommended SARMs which I have no issue with either.

 

[Verytas]

Thanks for all the advice, guys. Yeah it's been a pretty rough road getting back. I stared lifting again in January so it's been a little adjustment period. After leaving the military it all went downhill. They advised against back surgery for now so I'm trying to push through. I do pt for my hip, my shoulder, and my knees. That stuff I can work through it's the lower back injury that's fucking me up. What do you recommend for sarms? I was a fucking house before the injuries and I just want to get back there asap. My diet isn't nearly as bad as most would think, my body just hangs on to fat. I gain muscle fast but losing fat has always been a problem. To get to where I was before I was literally lifting for 3 hours a day.


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[Verytas]

Thanks for all the advice, guys. What sarms do you recommend? I started lifting again in January and it's been a rough road just trying to get back to where I was before asap. My body hangs on to fat like you wouldn't believe. My diet isn't nearly as bad as one would think when looking at the size of me now. Right now per day I'm on 50mg max lmg, 20mg dmz, 15mg of rad 140, 15mg of gw 501516, 6mg msten, and 5mg of lgd. Plus my multi, my fat burner, a test booster, cycle support for the pros,an ai, and some zma at night. Any advice on what to add or take away is appreciated.

 

[Verytas]

Also as far as the actual injuries are concerned, there's a few (isn't there always). I have to do pt for my hip which doesn't rotate when it's supposed to and there's a small tear in the ligament. My shoulder is jacked, never got a scan on it but it snaps and pops when I move it above parallel and it causes pain. I have 2 bad knees as well. As far as my back is concerned I have an L2-L3 bulge, L3-L4 bulge, L4-L5 bulge, and an L5-S1 herniation with annular tear. Military fucked me up for sure haha

 

[muskate]

Thanks for all the advice, guys. What sarms do you recommend? I started lifting again in January and it's been a rough road just trying to get back to where I was before asap. My body hangs on to fat like you wouldn't believe. My diet isn't nearly as bad as one would think when looking at the size of me now. Right now per day I'm on 50mg max lmg, 20mg dmz, 15mg of rad 140, 15mg of gw 501516, 6mg msten, and 5mg of lgd. Plus my multi, my fat burner, a test booster, cycle support for the pros,an ai, and some zma at night. Any advice on what to add or take away is appreciated.

Ok first off - I hate to be the bearer of bad news but SARMS can only be legally sold as a research chemical liquid. Any capsulated SARMS product is most likely going to be fake or laced with a pro-hormone. I am not exaggerating when I say that every single day someone comes on the board and creates a thread asking for help because they are experiencing side effects from using capsulated SARMS. Try to return the product and get your money back. Remember to always purchase SARMS as a research chemical liquid. The SARMS source most of us on the board use is sarms1.com.

Check out this video I made on SARMS -> https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/anabolic-steroids-peds/new-video-sarms-explained-46877.html

The triple stack would be pretty much perfect for you. The ostarine will indirectly help your injuries recover. Ostarine was originally developed to prevent muscle loss and induce healing in people with muscle wasting diseases like HIV and cancer.

The triple stack is combination of S4 + ostarine + cardarine. http://www.evolutionary.org/the-SARMS-triple-stack-protocol
Cardarine is a great SARM for fat loss and endurance
Ostarine is a great SARM for recovery
S4 is a great SARM for strength gains
You get the best of everything by stacking the three together.

SARMS are only minimally suppressive of natural testosterone production so all that is needed as a mini PCT after a cycle of SARMS is a good natural testosterone booster like HCGenerate ES from n2bm.com.

Here is how I would run your triple stack cycle

Weeks 1 - 8 (if you order the triple stack cycle option on sarms1.com you will have enough SARMS for the full 8 weeks. It's also at a discounted price then buying the vials individually)
ostarine 25mg (0.5mL) per day
S4 50mg (1mL) per day
cardarine 20mg (1mL) per day

Weeks 9 -12
HCGenerate ES 5 capsules/day

Take the SARMS with breakfast each morning. After week 12, you are safe to start another cycle of SARMS.

The entire cycle and mini PCT will cost you about $500. That's not that bad at all for 12 weeks.

 

[Verytas]

Ok first off - I hate to be the bearer of bad news but SARMS can only be legally sold as a research chemical liquid. Any capsulated SARMS product is most likely going to be fake or laced with a pro-hormone. I am not exaggerating when I say that every single day someone comes on the board and creates a thread asking for help because they are experiencing side effects from using capsulated SARMS. Try to return the product and get your money back. Remember to always purchase SARMS as a research chemical liquid. The SARMS source most of us on the board use is sarms1.com.

Check out this video I made on SARMS -> https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/anabolic-steroids-peds/new-video-sarms-explained-46877.html

The triple stack would be pretty much perfect for you. The ostarine will indirectly help your injuries recover. Ostarine was originally developed to prevent muscle loss and induce healing in people with muscle wasting diseases like HIV and cancer.

The triple stack is combination of S4 + ostarine + cardarine. http://www.evolutionary.org/the-SARMS-triple-stack-protocol
Cardarine is a great SARM for fat loss and endurance
Ostarine is a great SARM for recovery
S4 is a great SARM for strength gains
You get the best of everything by stacking the three together.

SARMS are only minimally suppressive of natural testosterone production so all that is needed as a mini PCT after a cycle of SARMS is a good natural testosterone booster like HCGenerate ES from n2bm.com.

Here is how I would run your triple stack cycle

Weeks 1 - 8 (if you order the triple stack cycle option on sarms1.com you will have enough SARMS for the full 8 weeks. It's also at a discounted price then buying the vials individually)
ostarine 25mg (0.5mL) per day
S4 50mg (1mL) per day
cardarine 20mg (1mL) per day

Weeks 9 -12
HCGenerate ES 5 capsules/day

Take the SARMS with breakfast each morning. After week 12, you are safe to start another cycle of SARMS.

The entire cycle and mini PCT will cost you about $500. That's not that bad at all for 12 weeks.

Thanks for the advice. If I wasn't already on my third week of those pills I'd consider it but since I'm this deep I figured I'd finish them and pct off. How do you take non capsulated sarms? Just swallow a liquid or?? That's probably the dumbest question you'll hear all day but I really have no experience with sarms. Originally the only reason I'm taking these with the pill form is because it's with prohormones and it was recommended to me and was told it was a good stack of pros so I took it.


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[muskate]

Thanks for the advice. If I wasn't already on my third week of those pills I'd consider it but since I'm this deep I figured I'd finish them and pct off. How do you take non capsulated sarms? Just swallow a liquid or?? That's probably the dumbest question you'll hear all day but I really have no experience with sarms. Originally the only reason I'm taking these with the pill form is because it's with prohormones and it was recommended to me and was told it was a good stack of pros so I took it.


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Liquid SARMS are sold as a research chemical liquid in a vial. There is a dropper inside to measure out your dosage. Measure out your dosage with the dropper, squirt the SARM into your mouth, swallow and then chase with water/coffee/juice etc.

 

[Verytas]

Liquid SARMS are sold as a research chemical liquid in a vial. There is a dropper inside to measure out your dosage. Measure out your dosage with the dropper, squirt the SARM into your mouth, swallow and then chase with water/coffee/juice etc.

Thanks, man.


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