ice bath dangers

[Al_trevor]

I started taking ice bath after training or playing soccer many of my team mates do it and it feels great for recovery, but some medical articles talk about the risk of muscle paralysis with those aggressive temp changes, true?

 

[Mobster]

Yes. But only like for a few seconds. Most of the tanks aren't that deep. Both the sports above are team sports so it's unlikely you'd be on your own. This is a story I read last year of a beauty salon employee who used a cyro cabin after hours. Fell asleep and... well it sounded like a cartoon. I'll see if I can link to the story:

http://www.foxnews.com/health/2015/...an-froze-to-death-in-cryotherapy-chamber.html

 

[jp4355]

Damn Mobster.
She was all ready for one of those Cryo-Preservation Tubes after that.
That was Crazy................................... JP

 

[stevesmi]

it feels good to get an ice bath but it really isn't doing you any good especially as a soccer player

i can understand as a football player or hockey cause you are hitting each other a lot and gettings lots of bruises. so an ice bath makes sense to slow down that blood flow to make you feel good so you can sleep that night

but in soccer you aren't hitting each other so it would make no sense. you want HEAT for recover, not COLD. so no i don't agree with ice baths for a soccer player. in fact i would argue it is counter productive, even though it 'feels good'

 

[Mobster]

If it wasn's so serous it'd be bordering on funny. It's like a scene from a few movies. I bet even the paramedics etc had to wear thermal gloves just to move her.

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it feels good to get an ice bath but it really isn't doing you any good especially as a soccer player

i can understand as a football player or hockey cause you are hitting each other a lot and gettings lots of bruises. so an ice bath makes sense to slow down that blood flow to make you feel good so you can sleep that night

but in soccer you aren't hitting each other so it would make no sense. you want HEAT for recover, not COLD. so no i don't agree with ice baths for a soccer player. in fact i would argue it is counter productive, even though it 'feels good'

Rugby guys have been doing it as have athletic participants. The theory goes you're in a ice cabin for about two minutes. The core maintains heat but the external parts (inc skin) cool. Stepping out creates a rush of blood back to the skin and trained muscles. This back and forth speeds up recovery.

 

[Masonic Bodybuilder]

I have never had an ice bath but I cant see it being dangerous unless you are in there for a prolonged period of time.

 

[muskate]

It's only dangerous if the bath is so deep that you could drown. If you hop in an ice bath, your body might go into shock and you might faint. The ice bath itself isn't particularly dangerous, it's fainting in water that could be dangerous.

If you are just using a regular bath tub, the water won't be deep enough that you can drown.

An even safer option would be hot/cold showers where you are sitting in a chair. Impossible to drown that way.

 

[colekippler]

it feels good to get an ice bath but it really isn't doing you any good especially as a soccer player

i can understand as a football player or hockey cause you are hitting each other a lot and gettings lots of bruises. so an ice bath makes sense to slow down that blood flow to make you feel good so you can sleep that night

but in soccer you aren't hitting each other so it would make no sense. you want HEAT for recover, not COLD. so no i don't agree with ice baths for a soccer player. in fact i would argue it is counter productive, even though it 'feels good'

I disagree. You want heat while your working out(maybe I have a Theory that cold climate/temp workouts are more aggressive and build muscle faster and recover faster but don't think I'll find a weight room at 50 degrees to test it out or cold winters houston tx)

Anyway, I read an article by navy seals vet, that wrote I believe "a seal mindset" that said the navy uses cold water workouts in seals tryouts to help break down lactic acids and numb muscle pain in muscles and to keep them awake(and to break them). But there was a method for the madness.

He recommended taking ice baths immediately after workouts or atleast cold showers in the morning and after workouts.
Cryotherapy might not be legit but ppl claim it works wonders but the $$$$. But saves you the agony of ice baths and cold showers. I'm going to MacGyver one day. Next six months I hope. I really think it's pretty easy to make a working home one.

My opinion you put ice on everything(think a lot of science backs that up now too, but everyone has their opinion) especially for inflation. You want to numb, break it down, and most importantly stop its build up. The cold prevents more acids from forming and breaks them down the same way as it prevents swelling and bruising. So being hit doesn't matter if your swore or want to prevent it go with cold. Your balls and dick won't think you at the time but your muscles will.


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[stevesmi]

^^^ I am not anti-cryotherapy in certain situations.. now you bring up Navy Seals, the OP is a soccer player. that is like comparing a ballerina to a pilot.

also 'acids' in our bodies is completely overhyped bro science. when you workout yes acid builds up, but it quickly dissipates. what is left is small tears in the muscles and your body sends in inflammation to repair that. icing down the muscle here would only slow down recovery, because you are slowing down inflammation. you want to SPEED it up if you are a soccer player, because you want to be fresh for your next game.

now again notice my post above, i said CERTAIN sports it makes sense to use ice. a football or hockey player who bruises their bodies from slamming against each other and on the ice/ground vs. a soccer player who runs around a lot

a bruised up athlete is more worried about slowing that blood flow down so you can feel better and actually be able to sleep. hell they even shoot them up with cortisone. in the NFL if you played sunday and your next game is thursday you aren't gonna recover in time fully, so yeah icing so you can atleast get out of bed seems logical.

again it is comparing 2 things

long story short if you are in an endurance sport you want to HEAT HEAT HEAT. you never want to ice down!