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Today is day 1 on slin.
Pharmaceutical Novalin r
Starting weight 195
Body fat 16%
Height 5'10
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today I started withTen iu's intra workout followed by roughly 150 grams of dextrose along with creatine, pre-workout, and electrolyte powder.
Excellent pumps during the workout and zero negative side effects.
Let's see where this goes!
 
AnabolicCookies said:
Today is day 1 on slin.
Pharmaceutical Novalin r
Starting weight 195
Body fat 16%
Height 5'10
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today I started withTen iu's intra workout followed by roughly 150 grams of dextrose along with creatine, pre-workout, and electrolyte powder.
Excellent pumps during the workout and zero negative side effects.
Let's see where this goes!
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Age and training experience.
 
i'm not going to knock you for wanting to experiment, after all this is a steroid site right? and plus I have used insulin myself on 2 occasions. the only thing i can tell you is we already spit out tons of insulin and sugar with our diets as it is, there is no reason to put more in your body and then followup it up with more sugar. it is a ludicrous thing. and yes i know that SOME pro's use insulin at the very top levels, BUT they also have amazing genetics and are on HGH and so much other shit that it is part of their arsenal. i have interivewed a lot of pros who say they don't use insulin and think it is stupid btw and will just make you fatter
 
This is purely for documentation, I don't want to ask questions I am only interested in learning. What better way to learn something than to do something. But for those who asked my age and experience... Your not going to agree with my decision at all. And I fully understand all of the risks. And I am still going to continue to research this on my self.
However, I will not share my age and experience, because I don't not want some kid to read this and think that it's okay to use. Because it is not. Insulin is very powerful and has a side effect of death.
 
Day 2
15 iu insulin administered
10 units pre exercise + 5 units post exercise
Pre exercise slin was followed up with a mix of dextrose, bcaas, creatine, pre-workout, 2 bananas.
Post workout insulin was followed up by 1/2 lb tuna, dextrose, and 1 lb gummy bears (made of glucose syrup).
Training while heavily carbed up with insulin is incredible, endurance goes through the roof like I can train for hours and still have gas to keep pushing. The pumps are unreal and muscle fullness is ridiculous.
During this experiment, I am going to train biceps every day. By the end of the week I will compare the difference. Yesterday my bicep measured at 15 inches right on the mark. Let's see if I am able to increase that size in 1 week and then maintain it.
 
Day 2 progress picture
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Try to keep it safe...Ill follow this..by photo..i think you are yoo young for that and I think 15 iu are too much..but i have zero xp with insulin. As you already stated you doing it for research purposes please post more photos from all angles,how many kg.u got? And what is your Bf%.
 
btutic said:
Try to keep it safe...Ill follow this..by photo..i think you are yoo young for that and I think 15 iu are too much..but i have zero xp with insulin. As you already stated you doing it for research purposes please post more photos from all angles,how many kg.u got? And what is your Bf%.
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I weigh about 88.5 kilos and 16% bf
 
Day 3
Today I am taking a day off of insulin and eating fewer carbs combined with fasting during the morning. The purpose of this is to keep my insulin sensitivity very low, allowing me to get more from less when I administer insulin again tomorrow. During my weigh in this morning I am actually 4 lbs lighter than I was in day 1-2. There is many variables that could explain that. So I can't point to exactly what caused that. However all is well and I'll check in again tomorrow for another update.
 
AnabolicCookies said:
Day 2 progress picture
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Three months ago you were contemplating running your first cycle. I remember the thread and I think you did it anyway, against the advice given. Now you're progressing to insulin? This isn't meant as an attack, but in your condition, limited training experience and age of 20, you have no business experimenting with any peds, let alone sling.
 
wesley_swolle said:
Three months ago you were contemplating running your first cycle. I remember the thread and I think you did it anyway, against the advice given. Now you're progressing to insulin? This isn't meant as an attack, but in your condition, limited training experience and age of 20, you have no business experimenting with any peds, let alone sling.
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I actually did not run the test cycle yet. Don't be so worried and worked up about my decisions. Because 2 years ago I was on a completely different path that DEFINITELY, WITH ZERO DOUBTS, would have me dead or in prison before I'm 30 So if you look through my prospective, this isn't hardly a risk compared to what I was involved in. In my opinion experience is everything, how can you know what it's like until you've been there. Truth is, you can only make assumptions.
 
AnabolicCookies said:
Day 3
Today I am taking a day off of insulin and eating fewer carbs combined with fasting during the morning. The purpose of this is to keep my insulin sensitivity very low, allowing me to get more from less when I administer insulin again tomorrow. During my weigh in this morning I am actually 4 lbs lighter than I was in day 1-2. There is many variables that could explain that. So I can't point to exactly what caused that. However all is well and I'll check in again tomorrow for another update.
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bro you sure you need insulin?
 
AnabolicCookies said:
This is purely for documentation, I don't want to ask questions I am only interested in learning. What better way to learn something than to do something. But for those who asked my age and experience... Your not going to agree with my decision at all. And I fully understand all of the risks. And I am still going to continue to research this on my self.
However, I will not share my age and experience, because I don't not want some kid to read this and think that it's okay to use. Because it is not. Insulin is very powerful and has a side effect of death.
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bro how about at least adding some HGH to this insulin? you'll get like 10x the results imo...
 
Hello.

I’m also following along since I have first seen this.

I have not used insulin and even though I have an opinion about it I do appreciate a detailed log on it for public consumption.

Given that this is a forum I would like to give you my perspective. Of course this is dependent on my goals which of course are probably not aligned with your goals.

While insulin is potent it has been used for a long time in the high level sports arena and of course in body building. As a sports person I feel that insulin would only weigh me down and make me carry too much water. Messing around with your insulin sensitivity could cause this. Insulin sensitivity could be an issue after having used insulin when you necessarily are not deficient in it. Mind you Insulin is not like testosterone at all. They shouldn’t even be in the same library.

I’m in to follow your progress but I feel like you would probably obtain the same optimal results by utilizing training, diet and the right dose of minimal AAS.

Thanks for sharing.
 
AnabolicCookies said:
I actually did not run the test cycle yet. Don't be so worried and worked up about my decisions. Because 2 years ago I was on a completely different path that DEFINITELY, WITH ZERO DOUBTS, would have me dead or in prison before I'm 30 So if you look through my prospective, this isn't hardly a risk compared to what I was involved in. In my opinion experience is everything, how can you know what it's like until you've been there. Truth is, you can only make assumptions.
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And that assumption is regardless of your drug use before it doesn't excuse using gear at age 20.
 
insulin is used by millions of americans so not sure why we have to 'experiment' with it

it also is a hormone that is released after you eat food (and drink most things too), so again not sure why you need to inject more. does it make much sense to throw MORE insulin at your body when it produces it already and then consume gummy bears and dextrose sugars? of course not. all you have to do is EAT FOOD and you release insulin.

also when you release insulin your body starts storing, and most of that storing is going to be PURE FAT. so again i got no problem guys with 'experimenting' but you aren't re-inventing the wheel here and my issue is you don't understand how completely counter productive using insulin is. i can tell you exactly what will happen to you. you will gain fat and make yourself more insulin resistant which means it will be harder to lose that fat you put on

we actually want to REDUCE INSULIN, not increase it... in 99.9% of situations in fitness. that is the ironic thing here

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AnabolicCookies said:
I actually did not run the test cycle yet. Don't be so worried and worked up about my decisions. Because 2 years ago I was on a completely different path that DEFINITELY, WITH ZERO DOUBTS, would have me dead or in prison before I'm 30 So if you look through my prospective, this isn't hardly a risk compared to what I was involved in. In my opinion experience is everything, how can you know what it's like until you've been there. Truth is, you can only make assumptions.
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slamming insulin isn't going to kill you. i always find it ridiculous how guys on forums say that because it would take a complete moron to kill themselves on insulin. even people who purposely try to commit suicide with insulin fail miserably

however my point is using insulin is both POINTLESS and very very counter productive. and you don't have to experiment with it because i can tell you EXACTLY what will happen to you using it. you will just get gain weight and get FATTER. why do you think people who eat too much, too often get fatter? because their bodies release insulin all day nonstop so their body stores it like crazy. you want to REDUCE insulin, not increase it
 
Insulin is the most overrated drug in bodybuilding. I know plenty that have used it. Never saw anybody gain anything except a bunch of rebpund fat to lose later on.
 
I am 100% all for a knowledgeable, experienced, individuals experimenting safely.
By your pictures & your own words u r no where even close to ready for alone.
I bet u are closer to 20% bf & I see no muscle u will only get fatter from slin use & hurt your self.
Stay natural get down to about 15% bf with some obviously evident muscle then run your test cycle.
Never use Slin without GH!!!
 
chadmack282 said:
I am 100% all for a knowledgeable, experienced, individuals experimenting safely.
By your pictures & your own words u r no where even close to ready for alone.
I bet u are closer to 20% bf & I see no muscle u will only get fatter from slin use & hurt your self.
Stay natural get down to about 15% bf with some obviously evident muscle then run your test cycle.
Never use Slin without GH!!!
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I am noob about insulin but just interested something : What would be better or what is difference between HGH with IGF1 or HGH with INSULIN? I am totally noob when it is about slin..if you or someone can me explain in detail please
 
Day 4
17 iu administered in total.
6 iu at 5 am
6 iu at 9 am
5 iu at 2 pm
Absolutely superb endurance while training. Trained 2.5 hours working predominantly on chest and if I didn't need to be in bed before 8 I could have doubled the session, at least that is how I felt when I was leaving. Extreme intensity while training utilizing heavy negatives, drop sets, forced reps and isometric contractions. Pumps while training are nearly to the point of pain, the muscles are so swelled and full.
 
AnabolicCookies said:
Day 4
17 iu administered in total.
6 iu at 5 am
6 iu at 9 am
5 iu at 2 pm
Absolutely superb endurance while training. Trained 2.5 hours working predominantly on chest and if I didn't need to be in bed before 8 I could have doubled the session, at least that is how I felt when I was leaving. Extreme intensity while training utilizing heavy negatives, drop sets, forced reps and isometric contractions. Pumps while training are nearly to the point of pain, the muscles are so swelled and full.
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bro...you doing a good shake refeed after?
 
AnabolicCookies said:
Yes, I'm using dextrose and bcaas immediately after, and then constantly eating granola bars, bananas, and tuna while working out and in between meals.
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Bro good ... that’ll get you mass... but again have you considered adding an hgh or hgh booster ?
That will hella boost insulin results bro....
 
Can anyone tell me what is point taking IGF or MGF while on HGH and JUICE? I mean what would be benefits with igf or mgf or without them? I am completely rookie in that regard and would love to learn
 
Day 5
No insulin administered.
Intermittent fasting through the morning and moderately low carb intake throughout the day. Most carbs eaten today are generally low gi.
 
Hi again. When you are reaching the end of your research it would be nice if you could give us a review of what’s happening afterward. Quick question - you have used insulin now but not exogenous testosterone? Is that correct?
 
btutic said:
Can anyone tell me what is point taking IGF or MGF while on HGH and JUICE? I mean what would be benefits with igf or mgf or without them? I am completely rookie in that regard and would love to learn
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bro a boost is a boost...IGF + HGH will give a crazy boost...its a fact...add nutrabol with it...killer....
 
AnabolicCookies said:
My goals? I'm just trying to get fat asf
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not to sound like a broken record but you don't need to slam insulin to get fat.

go to walmart and find fat people and follow them around and buy what they are buying to eat, you will get fat too.
 
Wait,did I understand good..you just want to get fat? Usually lads want to loose it. Can I know why ? xD just interestes
 
motherfucking day 6
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17.5 iu administered in total
-10 iu one hour before workout
-4 iu pre workout
-3.5 iu post workout
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Literally skin splitting pumps, after training I realized holy fucking shit I've got stretch marks forming on my lats. Again the endurance while using insulin is incredible. I need to watch the clock when I'm training because it would be easy to keep going for 3+ hours. Recovery time is nearly overnight and everything is going pretty damn good.
 
AnabolicCookies said:
motherfucking day 6
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17.5 iu administered in total
-10 iu one hour before workout
-4 iu pre workout
-3.5 iu post workout
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Literally skin splitting pumps, after training I realized holy fucking shit I've got stretch marks forming on my lats. Again the endurance while using insulin is incredible. I need to watch the clock when I'm training because it would be easy to keep going for 3+ hours. Recovery time is nearly overnight and everything is going pretty damn good.
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Is there any change in weight from day 1?
 
This is all awesome and all but what is going to happen to any if there are any noticeable gains in 30, 60, 90 days later. Is it going to be like the guy who takes dbol and gains 20 lbs of water in a few weeks just to look the Same or worse 30 days later?
Also part of learning is asking questions. Well at least for me. Unfortunately I wasn’t born knowing everything so I ask questions to learn. But everyone is different I suppose.
 
Journeybrah said:
This is all awesome and all but what is going to happen to any if there are any noticeable gains in 30, 60, 90 days later. Is it going to be like the guy who takes dbol and gains 20 lbs of water in a few weeks just to look the Same or worse 30 days later?
Also part of learning is asking questions. Well at least for me. Unfortunately I wasn’t born knowing everything so I ask questions to learn. But everyone is different I suppose.
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pretty much yes

all his results on this run would have been achieved just by eating semi-healthy food and working out on a half ass workout program.. he is only 20. it is actually very easy to have tremendous results from 15-25 just half assing things.
 
stevesmi said:
pretty much yes

all his results on this run would have been achieved just by eating semi-healthy food and working out on a half ass workout program.. he is only 20. it is actually very easy to have tremendous results from 15-25 just half assing things.
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Did I post what I'm eating? No. Did I share with you my exercise program? No. Did I tell you that I wake up at 330 am to be at the gym? No. you make assumptions thinking I'm looking for an easy way. Haa. You only see what I tell you, and that's not even close to one quarter of thee story. Your acting like I'm finished, this is only one week in.
 
Day 8 progress picture. I'd say insulin works great. In just one week I have seen an improvement. I've lost between 1-2% bodyfat and visibly increased lean muscle tissue.
PS... This picture was taken with two days off of insulin, so therefore my muscles are not blown up with glycogen and water from insulin.
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AnabolicCookies said:
Day 8 progress picture. I'd say insulin works great. In just one week I have seen an improvement. I've lost between 1-2% bodyfat and visibly increased lean muscle tissue.
PS... This picture was taken with two days off of insulin, so therefore my muscles are not blown up with glycogen and water from insulin.
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Out of curiosity, where do you see bf% now?
 
Oh and ive also got a couple bottles of mk677 waiting in my mailbox so I'll be posting a review on that. The source of ibutamoren is from PSL. So we'll see how it goes
 
Day 10
Alright my package of nutrobal is secured so now I am able to use insulin and have a way to boost my gh and igf1 levels. I don't think mk677 has the ability to raise your gh levels into that super human zone, but for the price, it's a great supplement with many benefits.

-Insulin-
- 7 units at 5 am
- 7 units at 9 am
- 7 units at 2pm
- 5 units at 4pm

-Mk677-
10 mg at 4 am
10 mg at 10:30 am
10 mg at 1 pm
10 mg at 8 pm

Nutrobal on its own has the ability to help wit incredible pumps, but when combined with insulin.... It's a whole different level like to the point I am going to need to buy some vitamin E to keep up with the stretch marks[emoji23].
(PS. Does anybody have any experience with really high dose mk677? is there any added benefit or does the effects just bottom out at a point?)
 
AnabolicCookies said:
Day 10
Alright my package of nutrobal is secured so now I am able to use insulin and have a way to boost my gh and igf1 levels. I don't think mk677 has the ability to raise your gh levels into that super human zone, but for the price, it's a great supplement with many benefits.

-Insulin-
- 7 units at 5 am
- 7 units at 9 am
- 7 units at 2pm
- 5 units at 4pm

-Mk677-
10 mg at 4 am
10 mg at 10:30 am
10 mg at 1 pm
10 mg at 8 pm

Nutrobal on its own has the ability to help wit incredible pumps, but when combined with insulin.... It's a whole different level like to the point I am going to need to buy some vitamin E to keep up with the stretch marks[emoji23].
(PS. Does anybody have any experience with really high dose mk677? is there any added benefit or does the effects just bottom out at a point?)
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For price and result people claim 25 mg a day..and to a healty male it should be equal to aroun 3-3.8 IU a day. Heard if taking 50mg a day splitted in two doses makes around 5IU...havent tried by myself
 
btutic said:
For price and result people claim 25 mg a day..and to a healty male it should be equal to aroun 3-3.8 IU a day. Heard if taking 50mg a day splitted in two doses makes around 5IU...havent tried by myself
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Alright I'll shoot for about 50 mg a day. For the price you can't beat that!
 
So whats the over/under this guy took a nap right after a insulin dose.... havent heard from him in 3 days now
 
Day 14
2 weeks in. Yesterday I weighed in at 205 I haven't got a measurement of arms or body fat yet, but I feel bigger, and my clothes are starting too fell a little bit more tight. Here's a photo update, sorry for the low quality
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good updates but remember 80% of the muscle is water. you aren't going to gain actual lean muscle tissue that fast. it will take years to build actual muscle tissue

that is why you don't see 20 year old Mr. Olympia champions
 
stevesmi said:
good updates but remember 80% of the muscle is water. you aren't going to gain actual lean muscle tissue that fast. it will take years to build actual muscle tissue

that is why you don't see 20 year old Mr. Olympia champions
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Absolutely right. When I squeeze as much glycogen into the muscles as possible, there needs to be an isotonic balance within the muscle cells(for proper muscle cell function). In other words, osmotic pressure should remain in equilibrium. In a balanced state this allows nutrients to freely pass between cell membranes. So therefore, when using insulin to force as much glycogen into the muscles as possible, combined with enough electrolytes to allow water to hydrate the muscles as much as possible (taking into consideration that using insulin will lower potassium levels). Yes, you are going to have a large amount of water within the muscles. However, what happens when you subtract the excessive glycogen from the muscles, via low carb intake, weight training, zero insulin use and fasting? Hmm.. well thinking about it logically, the water leaves the muscles once the glycogen is depleted...
 
^^^ yes that is my point. that weight gain and measuring muscle is not the way to know how much actual muscle tissue you built. no matter what you do bro, you can only gain actual muscle tissue via years and years of weight training and nutrition.
 
stevesmi said:
^^^ yes that is my point. that weight gain and measuring muscle is not the way to know how much actual muscle tissue you built. no matter what you do bro, you can only gain actual muscle tissue via years and years of weight training and nutrition.
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Yeah, I don't think your understanding what I said.
 
AnabolicCookies said:
It seems that I didn't mention that I intentionally fasted, ate less carbs, and didn't use insulin before taking measurements.
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i understand that part and i respect that you are trying to experiment with this log. but i am just trying to make sure some other 20 year old kid doesn't read this thread and think 'hey i can slam insulin and gain inches on my biceps too'.. i want people to understand it is about the long term
 
stevesmi said:
i understand that part and i respect that you are trying to experiment with this log. but i am just trying to make sure some other 20 year old kid doesn't read this thread and think 'hey i can slam insulin and gain inches on my biceps too'.. i want people to understand it is about the long term
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I get you on that. Insulin is very taboo and there is very little quality information about the subject when it comes to bodybuilding. And I strongly suggest that anyone who reads this thread fully understands the risks of using insulin.
 
Insulin can very easily turn deadly, so most avoid advising on it to not be culpable. Regardless, please try to be as safe about it as you can.
 
P0N said:
Insulin can very easily turn deadly, so most avoid advising on it to not be culpable. Regardless, please try to be as safe about it as you can.
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Absolutely agree, if you begin to get low blood sugar, you will actually feel like you want to sit down and take a nap. Very easy way to wake up in the hospital with an IV in your arm and a fat medical bill.... Or never wake up again.
 
Update*
Alright I've been off the insulin for a couple of days now. And have started to work towards getting more lean. So I am going to do a quick 6-8 week cut. During this time I have gone down to low carbs under 80 g a day, and am increasing cardio a little bit. I already do about 30 mins of steady state cardio five days a week so I'm going to bump that up to about an extra 30 mins of hitt style cardio. I want to also keep most of the strength I've gained in the last few months so I'm going to do heavy sets with lots of rest in between and avoid going to complete failure. I'll post the results of the cut here periodically.
 
AnabolicCookies said:
Update*
Alright I've been off the insulin for a couple of days now. And have started to work towards getting more lean. So I am going to do a quick 6-8 week cut. During this time I have gone down to low carbs under 80 g a day, and am increasing cardio a little bit. I already do about 30 mins of steady state cardio five days a week so I'm going to bump that up to about an extra 30 mins of hitt style cardio. I want to also keep most of the strength I've gained in the last few months so I'm going to do heavy sets with lots of rest in between and avoid going to complete failure. I'll post the results of the cut here periodically.
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Could you post your final photo? To see whole your body from profile before and after
 
AnabolicCookies said:
Update*
Alright I've been off the insulin for a couple of days now. And have started to work towards getting more lean. So I am going to do a quick 6-8 week cut. During this time I have gone down to low carbs under 80 g a day, and am increasing cardio a little bit. I already do about 30 mins of steady state cardio five days a week so I'm going to bump that up to about an extra 30 mins of hitt style cardio. I want to also keep most of the strength I've gained in the last few months so I'm going to do heavy sets with lots of rest in between and avoid going to complete failure. I'll post the results of the cut here periodically.
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bro log the lean log...
 
It's about day 3 into dieting down this is what I'm doing.
I have significantly lowered my and have only eaten about 40 ish grams of carbs in the last 2 days and have fasted for roughly 25 hours yesterday, however today I am going to go high carb, but I am fasting from 6 pm yesterday untill 2pm today. Oh and I'm still using the mk677. I am not counting calories but an average day of eating has been about 7 chicken thighs, 4-5 beef patties, some greens, and a couple Oz's of milk in my coffee.. training I've been learning more towards a full body workout staying around 80% or so of my 1 rep max but keeping the volume moderate with increased rest between sets and not training to complete failure. And everyday I do 15 minutes medium intensity cardio at 430 am and then 20-30 minutes hitt cardio around 3pm after weight training followed by another 15 minutes of steady state cardio. I will have 1-2 high carb days followed by 5-6 low carb days, my goals from this is to maintain most of my lean mass and strength, and get to about 8-9% bodyfat in 6-8 weeks and then adjust my diet and training to maintain about 10-11% bodyfat while adding muscle for the rest of the year. Today I weigh about 201 while fasted, and roughly 16-17% body fat, abs are slightly visible in a good light.
 
AnabolicCookies said:
It's about day 3 into dieting down this is what I'm doing.
I have significantly lowered my and have only eaten about 40 ish grams of carbs in the last 2 days and have fasted for roughly 25 hours yesterday, however today I am going to go high carb, but I am fasting from 6 pm yesterday untill 2pm today. Oh and I'm still using the mk677. I am not counting calories but an average day of eating has been about 7 chicken thighs, 4-5 beef patties, some greens, and a couple Oz's of milk in my coffee.. training I've been learning more towards a full body workout staying around 80% or so of my 1 rep max but keeping the volume moderate with increased rest between sets and not training to complete failure. And everyday I do 15 minutes medium intensity cardio at 430 am and then 20-30 minutes hitt cardio around 3pm after weight training followed by another 15 minutes of steady state cardio. I will have 1-2 high carb days followed by 5-6 low carb days, my goals from this is to maintain most of my lean mass and strength, and get to about 8-9% bodyfat in 6-8 weeks and then adjust my diet and training to maintain about 10-11% bodyfat while adding muscle for the rest of the year. Today I weigh about 201 while fasted, and roughly 16-17% body fat, abs are slightly visible in a good light.
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the issue now is that all that insulin use has made you even more insulin resistant.. i wish you should have done this strategy from the get go instead of wasting time putting insulin into your body. a hormone that is already high in the typical american today.

this strategy now is going to be much more effective for your goals less the insulin. time the workouts either during or at the tail end of your fast. then eat your meals after. don't eat then train. if you can time it up that way you would get much more adrenaline for your workouts and it would reverse the damage you did from using insulin too.

also get rid of the coffee. we want your adrenaline high during your workouts. coffee will actually inhibit that, plus at your age no reason to get hooked on stimulants. keep your workouts clean, that is how you strengthen your body
 
I agree with you partially. I believe that sipping on gigantic 54 oz sodas everyday and Starbucks coffee loaded with sugar and then Popeyes fried chicken is much more detrimental to insulin resistance than using insulin for 2 weeks and maintaining a clean bodybuilding diet. I am also lead to believe that fasting for a few days is also going to dramatically reduce my insulin resistance and bring me back to or below baseline fasted insulin levels. But, that is only speculation because I don't have the lab tests to confirm that opinion. And in essence if you look back through the posts I have already been following a modified carb cycling and fasting diet that is more geared towards weight gain and was also used as an effort to keep a lower tolerance to insulin.
 
AnabolicCookies said:
I agree with you partially. I believe that sipping on gigantic 54 oz sodas everyday and Starbucks coffee loaded with sugar and then Popeyes fried chicken is much more detrimental to insulin resistance than using insulin for 2 weeks and maintaining a clean bodybuilding diet. I am also lead to believe that fasting for a few days is also going to dramatically reduce my insulin resistance and bring me back to or below baseline fasted insulin levels. But, that is only speculation because I don't have the lab tests to confirm that opinion. And in essence if you look back through the posts I have already been following a modified carb cycling and fasting diet that is more geared towards weight gain and was also used as an effort to keep a lower tolerance to insulin.
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yes all that makes a difference. but reinforcing things by actually injecting MORE insulin is going to badly put a halt to switching from being resistant to sensitive. just look at diabetics who inject insulin. how ironic they got themselves into their mess by spiking insulin too much too often, and our medical pro's solution is to give them more insulin. it doesn't cure insulin resistance, it makes it worse! a type 2 diabetic will never cure themselves by slamming more insulin even if they eat perfect and fast. that is my point.

i think you are super smart for someone your age so kudos to you. eat up the info out there. but i also hope you learned a lesson here that injecting insulin is very counter productive and will only impede your goals, unless your goal is to get fat !

and yes fasting will rapidly reverse insulin resistance and boost sensitivity. a type 2 diabetic will need to work with a smart practictioner to gradually lower their medication during the fast which requires treading water carefully. however if done right they will cure themselves of it after 20 days of fasting. in a normal persons case fasting for 3 days will put you into a deep ketosis state by day 4. and the body will quickly switch to fat burning. something for you to try would be a 3-4 day fast.. see how you feel, if you feel good then keep it going longer.
 
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