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I keep hearing about macros and fats,my question is does it really matter the foods you eat if you take in more calories than you burn? Won't you put on fat regardless if you are in a 1k+ surplus?
^ That's true but it still eventually comes down to calories in vs out. If you eat excess of 5000 calories it doesn't really matter that much where you get those calories from, you are still going to end up putting on a lot of fat.
But nevertheless I agree that eating "clean" (I hate that term) food is always the best option.
But nevertheless I agree that eating "clean" (I hate that term) food is always the best option.
of course it is confusing. because just like watching the news, they tell you what they want to tell you but hardly an accuracy.
bottom line is IIFYM is complete bullshit.
you can't be serious that you can eat pizza and drink coke all day and get 3000 calories
but if you eat fruits, veggies, grassfed beef, and drink fresh juice and get 3000 calories it is the same thing.
which one is healthier for your gut in the first place?
although YES calories are part of the equation, you aren't factoring in hormones, insulin, glucagon, metabolism, insulin resistance/sensitivity, gut health, bowel movements and on and on. there are many factors that are in play.
I don't want any of my clients coming to me to ever count macros or calories under any circumstance. it does way more harm than good and any diet coach who has you do this should be sued for malpractice. besides for 2M fucking years human beings CYCLED their foods/calories/carbs/macros on a day to day basis. they didn't sit there counting their food and trying to get this much calories like weight watchers. when they found food they ate the food, anything in excess was stored as fat to be used later.. when they had no food to eat their bodies burned that stored fat as energy. and the cycle repeated itself.. if that wasn't how shit worked in our body humans would have gone extinct a long fucking time ago. crazy concept huh in a world where we can eat anything at anytime, and people wonder why they have zero control over their body
bottom line is IIFYM is complete bullshit.
you can't be serious that you can eat pizza and drink coke all day and get 3000 calories
but if you eat fruits, veggies, grassfed beef, and drink fresh juice and get 3000 calories it is the same thing.
which one is healthier for your gut in the first place?
although YES calories are part of the equation, you aren't factoring in hormones, insulin, glucagon, metabolism, insulin resistance/sensitivity, gut health, bowel movements and on and on. there are many factors that are in play.
I don't want any of my clients coming to me to ever count macros or calories under any circumstance. it does way more harm than good and any diet coach who has you do this should be sued for malpractice. besides for 2M fucking years human beings CYCLED their foods/calories/carbs/macros on a day to day basis. they didn't sit there counting their food and trying to get this much calories like weight watchers. when they found food they ate the food, anything in excess was stored as fat to be used later.. when they had no food to eat their bodies burned that stored fat as energy. and the cycle repeated itself.. if that wasn't how shit worked in our body humans would have gone extinct a long fucking time ago. crazy concept huh in a world where we can eat anything at anytime, and people wonder why they have zero control over their body
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And that is just you not understanding it one bit. The idea of IIFYM is not to replace all the "healthy" bullshit food with McDonalds. So if you don't know the idea of the practice then please stop spreading misinformation.
Are these physique competitors or just regular people who just want to live quote unquote "healthy" whatever the fuck that means.
You are so caught up to your own ideology and and old wisdoms that you can't see anything beneficial in other ways of doing these things. You don't provide any evidence to support your claims and you just keep bashing other people while at the same time flatter yourself.
Why is counting macros so bad? Why is counting calories bad? What is so bad about optimizing your nutrition and ensuring that you that your body is fed with appropriate amounts of each of these macronutrients and that your performance is at the best level it can be?
Especially if we are talking about building muscle which I assume most of the members here are trying to do?
And I am sorry for asking this yet again but I am way too retarded to still not understand so could you please explain me Sir?
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I doubt it's a question of Stevesmi and his being stuck on his own ideology. It's all those 100's of guys on a ton of forums who stated that it didn't matter. Heck I remember one specific member on the MD forum many years ago who had a LOT of influence on newbs who made a big deal out of eating burgers and eating cheesecake.
Remember for everyone of us who post we have ten reading. And if we fail to mention that it's better to eat clean-ish on the IIFYM we are NOT doing our job. Think about how you reply to other mods and VIPs.
Remember for everyone of us who post we have ten reading. And if we fail to mention that it's better to eat clean-ish on the IIFYM we are NOT doing our job. Think about how you reply to other mods and VIPs.
Could not put it any better than that.
Where did this misconception come from that IIFYM means eating crap?
This is basically the misinformation steve is spreading. It's called flexible dieting because it allows people more variety other than plain chicken and rice bs.
Bottom line is some people get it and understand it, and some dont. IIFYM is not even close to eating crap all the time. I'm a flexible dieter and my meals all day almost every day are clean as can be. That flexible dieting part comes in on those 2 to 3 meals per WEEK that I allow the leniency to have pizza, burgers, pasta, or whatever with the family. If you do IIFYM correctly and count your macros you will automatically eat 90% clean by default. Otherwise theres no way it will "fit your macros".
I wonder how you are still alive. Oh but it must be because you are already in decent shape, low bf etc...
No but seriously, I don't think it should even have any particular name. There isn't really any magic behind it.
I mean isn't that how most people eat in general? Let's say tomorrow Bob goes to eat in a restaurant with his boss and colleagues instead of bringing his rice and chicken in a tupperware , can't we technically say Bob is eating in a flexible way?
I agree, i believe in IIFYM aswell.
Again it's not a some kind of religion so I don't know where this believe thing came from.
I guess I practice it somewhat differently than other people because to me it still to this day doesn't mean eating hamburgers and pizzas. Surely you can do that but you can do that with any given diet.
Contrary to the popular believe IIFYM or flexible dieting as I would call it does not have anything to do with eating unhealthy.
It's merely an approach to eating which does not isolate you from any certain food items and thus allows you to work around your nutrition if you need or want to.
Now, it's up to the practitioner how he or she wants to apply so calling everyone who does it stupid only makes you stupid. If someone abuses steroids and dies because of it are we going say everyone who uses steroids is stupid and reckless?
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