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So I posted here a few days ago about wanting to cycle. I left my age outta it because I understand its not the best idea. I have sat on the idea of cycling for the last few months and I really do believe I want to make it a Life style. I am turning 20 this December. Now I have researched for months now. Planning everything, getting proper drugs, proper cycle, proper pct, and everything that can go wrong. Now I have some test results from a few months ago. I beleive last July. First I got my test done at around 2 PM and my test levels were 210 NG/DL. I am not sure of the LH and FSH at this time but I got them redone as this is extremely low for a person of my age. Now when I got them done fasted and In the morning my levels for test came out to be 500 NG/DL and my FSH was 3.6 and LH was 4.0. Based on my research these levels for my age are very low?I do not want to screw myself up by starting early. But this just makes me think well if I am this low to begin with I will probably end up on TRT in the near future. Let me know what you all think. I dont need the old men telling me how dumb young kids are. I Dont sit on my phone in the gym I train my balls of, diet like a champ and wake up in the morning trying to better myself in every way possible, especially in bodybuilding. I've seen tremendous results in myself the last few years and NO I AM NOT CLAIMING TO KNOW IT ALL. Thank you.
Actually, for your Age, your Levels are fine.
As you haven't reached your Peak Natural Testosterone Levels yet.
Not till you are 25 years old.
So hold on to your Hat, it's Not Hopeless, unless you start Cycling now.
Then you could very well damage your HPTA, and wind-up on TRT............................ JP
P.S.
Since Test Levels vary throughout the day.
It's always best to have Bloodwork done 1st thing in the AM, when they are at their highest.
As you haven't reached your Peak Natural Testosterone Levels yet.
Not till you are 25 years old.
So hold on to your Hat, it's Not Hopeless, unless you start Cycling now.
Then you could very well damage your HPTA, and wind-up on TRT............................ JP
P.S.
Since Test Levels vary throughout the day.
It's always best to have Bloodwork done 1st thing in the AM, when they are at their highest.
So you don't use until the results dry up. JP told you that the levels are normal for your age
If TRT is something I would consider doing the rest of my life what do you think of cycling? If i could turn this into a living than is that the price to pay?
No. In fact it's bordering on moronic. The odds are against you on a bunch of levels. If 10% of the population of the world workout in any meaningful way (it's less but I'm using US average figures) thern that's about 700-800 million worldwide working out. 10% (so 1% worldwide) of that is what we might call wanna be bodybuilders. So 70,000,000 worldwide. Yet, never mind the pros, there isn't even a fraction close to 1 million worldwide that compete. Pros only amount to (card holders as opposed to those actually making money) a thousand or so.
Then there's the 'fuck my fertility and health for my career' idea. Laughable. Short of working barehanded in a reactor I can' think of too many guys who'd agree with you. You might as well fight fires by pissing on them so you can work as a fireman and not have your cock get burned just so as to 'make a living'. It's the kind of thing a 20 or so year old says before he meets a girl and wants kids. Knowing a local pro who only became a dad in his 40's with IVF due to fertility issues... dude no, just no.
Then there's the 'fuck my fertility and health for my career' idea. Laughable. Short of working barehanded in a reactor I can' think of too many guys who'd agree with you. You might as well fight fires by pissing on them so you can work as a fireman and not have your cock get burned just so as to 'make a living'. It's the kind of thing a 20 or so year old says before he meets a girl and wants kids. Knowing a local pro who only became a dad in his 40's with IVF due to fertility issues... dude no, just no.
I know this isn't what you want to hear.
But the Answer is NO.
TRT is for Old Men (over 50), generally speaking, or Young Guys who have Pituitary Gland Tumors/HIV Infection/Radiation Treatment or Chemotherapy for Cancer.
Or Guys who did AAS or Prohormones at Too early an age.
You don't want to go out of your way to be among the Guys who have to be on TRT.
There's allot of Side Effects that come with TRT, it's Not a Panacea.
Christ, I'm in my Mid-60's and still Not on TRT.
Cause I didn't Abuse my Body, and started Cycling at age 25............................ JP
P.S.
Why are you in a Rush to Handicap yourself.
You've got 5 Good Years to make the most of your Natty Test ~ Enjoy it ~ it won't come again.
You will know if you can make a Living at Bodybuilding.
If you can put together an Above Average Body without AAS.
They aren't Muscle's in a Vial.
Bodybuilding is a Marathon, not a Sprint, there's Not 1 Pro, that built their body overnight.
They started with an Excellent Foundation, and then added in the AAS.
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Appreciate it brother!
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Appreciate the response and real talk!
if you read posts on most forums you will see "your test levels peak in your teens because you are horny" or some bullshit like that. this is false. I've seen gregg valentino say dumb shit like this a lot too
the facts are as a teenager your hormones are CHANGING, that is why you are so horny all the time and get acne etc. JP is right.. your test levels don't actually peak until you fully mature, which is into your 20's.
so the answer is NO. in fact you shouldn't even be running blood work unless you have some sort of medical reason. you are just making excuses as to why you can't gain muscle, which is fine as humans are naturally lazy. but if you get on a proper workout program and eat even halfway decent you would gain crazy
PS. your generation is addicted to electronics and porn and this is leading to problems with the dick working, plus all the shit in our foods, etc. lots of factors in play
the facts are as a teenager your hormones are CHANGING, that is why you are so horny all the time and get acne etc. JP is right.. your test levels don't actually peak until you fully mature, which is into your 20's.
so the answer is NO. in fact you shouldn't even be running blood work unless you have some sort of medical reason. you are just making excuses as to why you can't gain muscle, which is fine as humans are naturally lazy. but if you get on a proper workout program and eat even halfway decent you would gain crazy
PS. your generation is addicted to electronics and porn and this is leading to problems with the dick working, plus all the shit in our foods, etc. lots of factors in play
Robthomas
Buff Brother
I just don’t understand guys in there lower or mid twenties. All they talk of is checking there blood work to see were test levels are who gives a shit just train and eat and repeat stop looking into this stuff so deep your going to make gains either way if you train right
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I actually agree with this.
There is ALOT more to building muscle then just testosterone.
I train a lot of natural athletes. I ask them to get blood work done every 6 months since:
1. It's good to keep an eye on things
2. It's free in Canada so why not right
Some of them have really low testosterone levels. Still in the normal range but on the low side. They make great progress every month because they don't make it a big deal. They still grind away at the gym and put the work in at the kitchen table and they keep making progress.
Testosterone is just one small piece of the muscle building equation. Look at how many people run cycles but make zero gains since their diet and training isn't dialed in.
If you are training your ass off and diet is in check like you say then you should be seeing great results. Those results should continue for some time because your test levels are not even at their peak yet. You have years of natural gains left to go. Don't waste them away.
ooothats
New member
Listen to this man.. Im 43 and would love to have nattt test levels over 500.
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