Need Test and Deca cycle help!!!!!!!

[Mini-Swole]

Only 2 pins into my cycle and I already feel like shit. My cycle includes:
Test Cyp. 500mg EW
Deca. 250mg EW
Pfizer aromasin 12.5mg EOD
Upjohn caber .5mg 2x per week

Like I said, I am only 2 pins in and I feel like I am doing everything correctly but I still feel like ass. Fatigue, lethargy, loss of labido, loss of appetite and just an overall weak feeling. Anyone have any advice on what might be wrong or what I can do?

 

[dylangemelli]

neither of them can hit you that fast or cause you to have any issues in two pins, so that has nothing to do with it but i can tell you that running deca that much lower than test is only going to add to side effects and when they do actually hit you, you wont feel very good at all... i would run deca higher than test or at least have them equal

 

[muskate]

You most likely are coming down with some sort of virus. Maybe the flue.

Both test cyp and deca have long esters. They won't already be kicking in if you are only 2 pins into your cycle

 

[Mini-Swole]

I also forgot to mention...I started the cycle with injectable dbol at 30mg ED. I only did like 3 pins of that and stopped after starting to feel like shit. I have also done some research and have found that Deca isn’t really good for cycling. Most people recommend npp for cycling because of the short ester. Any truth to this?

 

[Chemically Enhanced]

How sure you are about your gear?
I usually run Deca = Test but I did run it lower too and had no issues.

 

[chadmack282]

It sounds like your water retention ramped after u started doing 5iu per day. I would back off to 3iu for a month, then 4iu a month then 5iu.
To keeps sides minimal u need to Ramp your dose up Slowly!!!

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How did my post for another thread end up here?

 

[1989]

Pinning dbol? Must love needles, I wouldnt do that

 

[Chemically Enhanced]

I also forgot to mention...I started the cycle with injectable dbol at 30mg ED. I only did like 3 pins of that and stopped after starting to feel like shit. I have also done some research and have found that Deca isn’t really good for cycling. Most people recommend npp for cycling because of the short ester. Any truth to this?

Deca is fine for cycling. Unless your cycle is very very short, then you should use NPP. But I see no reason to run short cycles.
I missed this post of yours, if you started feeling like this after pinning dbol you probably wasn't taking enough AI as dbol is very estrogenic compound.

 

[Mobster]

I also forgot to mention...I started the cycle with injectable dbol at 30mg ED. I only did like 3 pins of that and stopped after starting to feel like shit. I have also done some research and have found that Deca isn’t really good for cycling. Most people recommend npp for cycling because of the short ester. Any truth to this?

It's horse shit. Decas been around for decades.

 

[TheChad]

Deca is my fav! Your prob just coming down with something.


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[Mini-Swole]

Pinning dbol? Must love needles, I wouldnt do that

I actually hate needles but I do love my liver

 

[Eddie Haskell]

Only 2 pins into my cycle and I already feel like shit. My cycle includes:
Test Cyp. 500mg EW
Deca. 250mg EW
Pfizer aromasin 12.5mg EOD
Upjohn caber .5mg 2x per week

Like I said, I am only 2 pins in and I feel like I am doing everything correctly but I still feel like ass. Fatigue, lethargy, loss of labido, loss of appetite and just an overall weak feeling. Anyone have any advice on what might be wrong or what I can do?

Unless you are especially prone to prolactin-related side effects, Mini-Swole, I would discontinue the use of cabergoline in favor of merely keeping it at hand. For the one time that I used aromasin and caber' simultaneously caused me to feel out of sorts, too. Then again, your lack of labido indicates that you may be in need of cabergoline.
Question: Are you at least resonably certain that your aromasin was manufactured by Pfizer, and your caber' by Upjohn?

 

[stevesmi]

2 things:

you are using 3 aromatizing compounds with means a shit ton of water retention. check your AI and check your blood work, bet your estrogen is sky high.. that will by itself make you feel like shit

and 2nd where is your proviron? you did research by your post but nobody told you to run proviron with a nandrolone? that is straight up poor advice and i wouldn't listen to that person who helped you ever again

 

[Mini-Swole]

Unless you are especially prone to prolactin-related side effects, Mini-Swole, I would discontinue the use of cabergoline in favor of merely keeping it at hand. For the one time that I used aromasin and caber' simultaneously caused me to feel out of sorts, too. Then again, your lack of labido indicates that you may be in need of cabergoline.
Question: Are you at least resonably certain that your aromasin was manufactured by Pfizer, and your caber' by Upjohn?

Yes sir I am about 99.9% sure. I’ve gotten all my gear from the same source for years and never had any issues. Also, all came in tamper proof boxes and sealed bottles. But even with that being said, I understand that there is always a possibility of it being fake. Only blood work will tell the truth. Getting bw done this week. After discontinueing the dbol and upping my ai dosage a little I am feeling a ton better. But I am still going to get bloods done just to be sure. What is your opinion on Dylan’s comment about my Deca dosage being too low? I’ve always been told to run Deca at half of your test dosage to prevent Deca dick

 

[Mini-Swole]

2 things:

you are using 3 aromatizing compounds with means a shit ton of water retention. check your AI and check your blood work, bet your estrogen is sky high.. that will by itself make you feel like shit

and 2nd where is your proviron? you did research by your post but nobody told you to run proviron with a nandrolone? that is straight up poor advice and i wouldn't listen to that person who helped you ever again

I have stopped taking the dbol and upped my ai dosage and I am feeling a ton better. Going to get bloods done next week. And to be honest I haven’t heard of using proviron with a nandrolone. Definitely poor planning on my end. I will for sure be looking into it and possibly making an order soon. What are the benefits of proviron with a 19nor? Also, what do you think about my Deca to Test dosage? Dylan commented and said my Deca dosage is too low although I’ve always been told to run Deca at half the test dosage to prevent Deca dick

 

[stevesmi]

I have stopped taking the dbol and upped my ai dosage and I am feeling a ton better. Going to get bloods done next week. And to be honest I haven’t heard of using proviron with a nandrolone. Definitely poor planning on my end. I will for sure be looking into it and possibly making an order soon. What are the benefits of proviron with a 19nor? Also, what do you think about my Deca to Test dosage? Dylan commented and said my Deca dosage is too low although I’ve always been told to run Deca at half the test dosage to prevent Deca dick

nandrolones bind to DHT receptors
DHT is our sex hormone
trannies use finasteride to block DHT metabolization to give them female like features

so it makes sense as a man who wants to build muscle, and have a strong libido to stack in a DHT deriviatve with a nandrolone. proviron is the best choice because it is liver safe and has very low sides

 

[Masonic Bodybuilder]

I actually hate needles but I do love my liver

Dbol is dbol…...injectable dbol IS still liver toxic. Hopefully you are taking N2Guard!

 

[Eddie Haskell]

Dbol is dbol…...injectable dbol IS still liver toxic.!

Yes, they are equally toxic with respect to the liver.

 

[E32038]

I actually hate needles but I do love my liver

Injectables do bypass liver metabolism and a common misconception is they do not effect the liver. The steroids are released from an oil which eventually enters the bloodstream. What does the liver filter? Blood. See the problem here?

 

[Eddie Haskell]

Injectables do bypass liver metabolism and a common misconception is they do not effect the liver. The steroids are released from an oil which eventually enters the bloodstream. What does the liver filter? Blood. See the problem here?

Yeah, a common misconception based on wishful thinking.