New guy, looking for first move

[thesubaruwrx]

Hey everyone!
Been lurking on evo for a while and finally decided to hop in. To introduce myself im a 21 yo make 6'3 and looking for nice lean gains. Not looking to become a brick house but to get low in my BF % (13.5-14.2) right now. So I'm gonna take the plunge to hardcore supplements and was originally thinking 1-Andro cycle with Ostarine. I've had ostarine with MK-677 in past and it was nice and mild. Want the next step up. Yes I do have a nicely balanced diet and good regiment.
Do you think this is a good step.
I had other thoughts of adding 4-Andro but am unsure.
Or scratching all that and going Anavar .
What do yu all think?
Thanks
Can't wait for the learning to commence

 

[Masonic Bodybuilder]

I wouldn't bother with pro hormones buddy. They are illegal and very liver toxic. I would try the SARMS triple stack instead. You will see nice results with the added compounds you have not used yet. You can definitely take Nutrobal with the stack as well...

Follow the triple stack as it is laid out here: http://www.evolutionary.org/the-SARM...stack-protocol

After the triple stack, run a mini PCT. 4 weeks of the following:
clomid at 25mg/day
nolvadex at 20mg/day
HCGenerate ES at 5 capsules/day
n2guard at 3 capsules/day

You can get everything you need off sarms1.com, n2bm.com and ag-guys.com.

 

[thesubaruwrx]

I was looking a a certain brand that is not methylated and is new on market. Also is legal because it's 1-DHEA. Doesn't fall under ban. Opinions on its effectiveness?

 

[Masonic Bodybuilder]

If you want to go that route, why don't you give RS Transaderm a try...

http://shop.ruthlesssupplements.com/Ruthless-Supplements-RS-Transaderm/dp/B007JB6AFC

 

[AustBenny]

1 Andro and 4 Andro are not methylated and not very liver toxic. Still best to run liver and cycle support with them. You would definitely be good to go with these two in decent dosages.

RS Transaderm is a totally different thing and not nearly as powerful.

 

[thesubaruwrx]

Opinion on leaving out the 4 Andro. I've read that people think it's weak to just run 1 Andro. Others say the opposite. I do want lean gains and like I stated drop body fat. That's why I figured throw in Ostarie for the extra kick.

 

[AustBenny]

Ostarine for the extra kick is fine.

You will want the 4 Andro in there as it supplies a "test base" which will reduce lethargy, increase energy and assist libido.

So Ostarine 1 Andro 4 Andro stack sounds good bro.

 

[muskate]

I agree with Mosanic bodybuilder. In my opinion, you will get much better results (with much less side effects) by using SARMS. The SARMS triple stack gets my vote: http://www.evolutionary.org/the-SARMS-triple-stack-protocol

After the triple stack, run a mini PCT. 4 weeks of the following:
clomid at 25mg/day
nolvadex at 20mg/day
HCGenerate ES at 5 capsules/day
n2guard at 3 capsules/day

SARMS are minimally suppressive, there is no risk of aromatization (therefore no estrogen related side effects) and legal to use. You can get everything you need off sarms1.com, n2bm.com and ag-guys.com

 

[panda]

Just wondering if Sarms Triple Stack has any impact on liver and endocrinological (I am having insulin resistance and thus on a low-carb mid to low-calorie died) (thyroid levels) bloodwork (which has now just some liver issues, because in past 3 years i gained ~10% bf(up to 20% now) after some serious car crash)?
Because I am finishing my pancreatitis curing and want to start off with triple stack again.

 

[LevButlerov]

Just wondering if Sarms Triple Stack has any impact on liver and endocrinological (I am having insulin resistance and thus on a low-carb mid to low-calorie died) (thyroid levels) bloodwork (which has now just some liver issues, because in past 3 years i gained ~10% bf(up to 20% now) after some serious car crash)?
Because I am finishing my pancreatitis curing and want to start off with triple stack again.

No, SARMS are non-hormonal compounds, so there will be no problems in this regard. Also, they are completely non-toxic to the liver, and they do not affect the thyroid. Therefore, they are perfectly fina and safe to use.

 

[panda]

Thanks a lot.
Read many stuff about vision issues, people are concerned waking up at night literally blind, but when I was first time on Sarms TS had moderate vision issues was also concerned a bit, but after I stop (I think S4 causes it) it just gone and never came back ever since I don't know if there any long term impact on a vision but short term feels fine.

Felt serious strength and energy boost, well, same as everyone says (bench 295lbs x5 to 330x5, etc) but still unclear if this is a really best stuff to tear off visceral adipose. There was slight fat loss stuff going on, but I can't say it was ridiculously good (keeping in mind everything else was pretty darn good - sleep, diet, cardio, nutrition). Though my genetics are quite moderate, endomorph with low own hormones production, they are at normal levels, but close to margin call because even at morning test and hgh are at lowest acceptable levels.

Anyway, Sarms TS definetely works, at least for rapid strength and energy boost .

Please to be reading thread like those with loads of useful info and Q&As.